> On 19 Jul 2019, at 14:40, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Friday, July 19, 2019 at 6:28:10 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > ... > > By assuming the existence of (primary) Matter, you lose the possibility to > explain it, and you loss the mean to use the mechanist theory of mind, > without providing a conceptually clear non-mechanist theory of mind. > > Bruno > > > > If a mathematical/logical theory can explain experience (the catchall for > consciousness, selfness, qualia, etc.) then that is that and we an all go > home.
The experience is explained in the CTM. It is a semantical fixed point. It explains why machine will introduce a word to describe a truth that they know but cannot prove to others or even define in any 3p way. > > (If we didn't have experience, then we wouldn't be worrying about in the > first place!) > > But if it can't, then it is something itself needs a home, and that home is > matter, But the whole point is that it can. Machines have already a quite rich theory of consciousness, and even God when taken in the original large sense (not in the fairy tales sense which is con artistry). Bruno > > (Unless experiences are ghosts from an immaterial realm.) > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e1382d4b-263f-46bc-99bd-38c4015c9691%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e1382d4b-263f-46bc-99bd-38c4015c9691%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/425EEBB0-EB07-475A-9083-098CBB87C11C%40ulb.ac.be.
