Am Do, 10. Dez 2020, um 20:48, schrieb PGC: > > > On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:14:42 PM UTC+1 telmo wrote: >> __ >> Mindey asked a very interesting question, and I've been thinking about it >> while following the discussion. I don't have a good answer, but I might have >> a good question. I propose another take: the discussion so far has been in >> terms of quanta, but what if we reframed it in terms of qualia? >> >> Imagine the "universe" in terms of the set of all first-person experience >> moments of all of its inhabitants. Is there a limit to novelty here? Or can >> qualia also display unbounded complexity? > > No serious philosopher/linguist I know of argues for a bound there in > principle. At least not in my modest reading of antique treatments, and > neither more recently in Baumgarten, Kant, Hegel, Nietzsche, Valéry, > Heidegger, Adorno, and contemporary thinkers. I wouldn't think Bruno does > either with []p & <>t & p.
It did not occur me to ask linguists, but fair enough. I would say that there is a correspondence between language and qualia, but that is a deep rabbit hole. Language clearly has boundless complexity, but this does not convince me that the qualia it points to also do. We can easily fall into Borat's "and is this cheese?" scenarios. > And moving from sensation to aesthetic sensation, or sets of sensations > pursued as ends in themselves, subjectivity liberates the richness of reality > (or Bruno's "p" if you want) to be experienced as a pleasurable confirmation > of its broad and limitless accessibility to us. We pursue that unbounded > complexity. Yes, but what if "richness of reality" is just a qualia without much diversity? > Even if experiencing reality is not sharable in its entirety or with absolute > precision, the pursuit and analysis of accounts of sensation or experience > reports, can be useful in guiding us toward the good stuff, e.g. conjunction > of novel/unknown with a particular pleasure. PGC Yes, I agree. Telmo. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7c245354-d79b-4305-8ec2-6923a044d0f0n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7c245354-d79b-4305-8ec2-6923a044d0f0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/66ab9bab-3a1c-465e-a221-cf48fa0ff791%40www.fastmail.com.
