On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
* >> On 12/13/2020 9:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:* > > * >> We cannot start from consciousness,* > > I agree because the scientific method is of no use for consciousness. So instead start with Intelligent behavior, aka The Turing Test. > *> and we cannot start with matter, which are the notion that we have to > explain from numbers,* That is an unwarranted assumption on your part. You don't need numbers to explain matter, you need matter to explain numbers. > *Why can't you start from consciousness. It's more immediately known > than numbers. * Why can't you start from intelligent behavior. It's more immediately known than either. It takes intelligence to conclude "I think therefore I am". John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv3zVVRZhQYYu5fE__RzSA%2BmkUTaPO9sEGu-39XS4pMG1g%40mail.gmail.com.

