> On 19 Dec 2020, at 00:59, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:57:28 PM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote: > [Telmo Menezes] > > “Imagine the "universe" in terms of the set of all first-person experience > moments of all of its inhabitants. Is there a limit to novelty here? Or can > qualia also display unbounded complexity?” > > [Philip Benjamin] > > How will you include Augustine’s (3rd - 4 th Centuries, > https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine > <https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine>) first > person experience into your imagined universe? > By distinguishing truth and belief. The first person is at the intersection of truth and belief. Keep in mind the “brain” cannot define a notion of truth encompassing the semantic of itself.
> It was Augustine who pulled the West out of Greco-Roman superstitious > paganism and baptized Platonism into Scriptural norms and thus became the > architect of Western Civilization. > > The Hellenic-Latin world was better off before Augustine or for that matter > the whole Christian nonsense. With Augustine came not some great age, but > rather a dark age. Only when theology was stolen by the “political power” later. In Occident. The dark age is when some people claim to know the truth, and impose it in a way or in a another. They fight the doubts. > There are a few sparks of wisdom in his Confessions, but largely I fail to > see him as being one of the great minds. Compare to the canonical theological of the universal+ machine, Augustine seems less wrong than others. I would say. I recall that the theology of the machine is axiomatised by the logic G and G* and their intensional variants imposed by incompleteness, which imposes also G (the rational part of the theology) to be different from G* (the true part of the theology, it include the non rationally justifiable truth). Bruno > > LC > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3e5606f9-5e59-4378-8032-d58ad0bd2028n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3e5606f9-5e59-4378-8032-d58ad0bd2028n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/390350E4-CA3C-4217-9835-19292C6AFF9B%40ulb.ac.be.
