On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:57:28 PM UTC-6 medinuclear wrote:

> [*Telmo Menezes*]
>
> “Imagine the "universe" in terms of the set of all first-person experience 
> moments of all of its inhabitants. Is there a limit to novelty here? Or can 
> qualia also display unbounded complexity?”
>
> [*Philip Benjamin*]
>
> How will you include Augustine’s (3rd - 4 th Centuries, 
> https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine) first 
> person experience into your imagined universe? It was Augustine who pulled 
> the West out of Greco-Roman superstitious paganism and baptized Platonism 
> into Scriptural norms and thus became the architect of Western  
> Civilization. 
>
The Hellenic-Latin world was better off before Augustine or for that matter 
the whole Christian nonsense. With Augustine came not some great age, but 
rather a dark age. There are a few sparks of wisdom in his *Confessions*, 
but largely I fail to see him as being one of the great minds. 

LC

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