Am Do, 17. Dez 2020, um 03:08, schrieb 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List: > > > On 12/16/2020 9:20 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Am So, 13. Dez 2020, um 17:11, schrieb Bruno Marchal: >>> >>>> On 10 Dec 2020, at 16:14, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Mindey asked a very interesting question, and I've been thinking about it >>>> while following the discussion. I don't have a good answer, but I might >>>> have a good question. I propose another take: the discussion so far has >>>> been in terms of quanta, but what if we reframed it in terms of qualia? >>>> >>>> Imagine the "universe" in terms of the set of all first-person experience >>>> moments of all of its inhabitants. Is there a limit to novelty here? Or >>>> can qualia also display unbounded complexity? >>> >>> >>> With Mechanism, we have to separate clearly the ontology, which is given by >>> the minimal things that we have to assume because we cannot derive them >>> from simpler thing, and which has to be enough rich to support a universal >>> machine. There is some amount of latitude here, because we can assume any >>> universal machinery(*). As everyone believe already in natural numbers and >>> the laws of addition and multiplication, I use them (albeit in my course I >>> prefer to use the combinators, but once we have them we have the >>> numbers+laws, and vice versa. >> >> Still, don't you find it incredibly strange that such a thing exists to >> being with? > > You wouldn't if you thought about the evolution of mind and how it serves in > natural selection. Counting is very useful. Even animals do it. >
I am aware. What I mean is that it is incredibly strange that anything exists at all. Telmo. > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/07b1ff60-29b1-0917-26c1-bb5655a9480e%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/07b1ff60-29b1-0917-26c1-bb5655a9480e%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/bf554a3b-c2c7-4082-b0c1-1ee8c762a711%40www.fastmail.com.
