--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Turq,
> 
> Yeah, that was amazing. What were the chances that I would find a
> quote of Doug Birx using the exact terminology that Spraig and Judy
> insisted was proof that I never understood the teaching properly! 
> Judy failed the test but I still have hope that Spraig,who started
> this nonsense, will step up and do the right thing.  Spraig?

I honestly think that Sparaig is a good guy, and
quibbles about these minor verbal nitpicks out of habit
from a.m.t., where the "standard" for "debating" has 
almost been defined as quibbling over nitpicks for a 
long time now. 

Another factor to bear in mind is that almost every
time he states a strong opinion here and someone
challenges him on it, a certain person has to come
rushing in like the calvary to "rsscue" him. I think
she feels that it's loyalty of some kind; I kinda
imagine that Sparaig cringes ever time she does it,
and wishes she wouldn't. At this point on FFL, having
Judy's "support" is probably a lot like having Bush's
support if you're a Republican running for reelection.

> Now on to more important matters...
> The Charaka Samhita is your Vedic support for your conquest 
> of young hotties.  It specifically prescribes being with 
> them as a tonic.  

Interestingly, it's the same thing in Chinese tonic
herbology. I had a friend who studied under a famous
herbalist, and much of their practice involved sex
tonics -- things that increased yang in older men
for whom it had grown deficient. The Chinese tonic
herb system is very interesting -- there are over 
10,000 beneficial herbs known, but less than 100
of them fall into the category of the tonic herbs.
The criteria for that are that they balance (if you
have high blood pressure, you could take any number
of other herbs, but you'd have to stop taking them
as your blood pressure neared normal; with the tonic
herbs, if you had high blood pressure it will lower
it to normal, and if you had low blood pressure it
will raise it to normal), they have no known non-
beneficial side effects, and a few other qualities.

The reason they are interested in restoring sexual
balance is not pandering to horny old farts, by the
way. They believe that one of the keys to longevity
*is* balance, and if one has lost one's sexual 
desire and/or has trouble fulfilling them, that
is a sign of a much larger and more dangerous 
imbalance. These theories seem to work themselves
out in real life; I was introduced to several 
Chinese tonic herbalists in their 90s and over
100 years old who are not only still practicing,
they're married and still having kids. The herbalist
I got to know the best had a wife 25 years younger
than he was.

> You may not want to go as young as they prescribed,(think 
> of the age of a girl Michael Jackson would want if he were 
> hetero), but the Vedic literature is clearly on your side.  
> Of course the masagonistic Vedas are skewed towards the 
> man's benefit.  There is no mention of what the young 
woman gets out of it.  I'm sure you'll think of something.

She would get *me*, silly. Oh. You meant that I'll
think of something that works...  :-)

Strangely enough, when New Morning corrected his 
earlier "perfect" age for me to 32, I breathed a
sigh of relief. I actually do get along better in
most cases with younger women than older ones 
(because we have more in common -- no kids, love
of travel, often similar interests in music and
reading, etc.), but I'm glad I don't have to learn
20s-speak. Low thirties has always been really
good for me. I actually *like* older women, in
their forties or fifties, but to be honest it's
difficult to find women with whom I have very
much in common from that age group. Let's face
it, what I'm looking for is someone who has paid 
their dues in some spiritual pursuit and under-
stands what that adds -- and subtracts -- from
one's life. I've tried dating women from that age
group before, and often all they can find to talk
about is their kids (even if they've moved away)
and how they want to find some place to "settle
down" with a partner and basically wait to die.
Sorry. That's just not me. I hope to be traveling
and doing crazy things right up to the end, so
younger women who can handle that really *are*
probably a better choice for me.


> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Judy:> It was an attempt to get you to *correct* the word 
> > > > > you used, Curtis.  You've discredited yourself by
> > > > > refusing to do so.
> > 
> > There is so much "meat" here for analysis that the
> > mind boggles. Judy feels that she is the universe's
> > editor... 
> > 
> > > > http://www.tm.org/main_pages/maharishi.html
> > > > 
> > > > From the TM org site:
> > > > 
> > > > 1972: Maharishi inaugurates his World Plan and creates a new
science
> > > > -- the Science of Consciousness, the Science of Creative 
> > > Intelligence,
> > > > training 2,000 teachers of this science [by now 40,000] to
bring the
> > > > timeless message of Transcending to all parts of the globe.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > But wont him teaching the message of transcending confuse people 
> > > about
> > > > the value of thoughts in meditaion?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.enmag.org/09/9birx2.htm
> > > > 
> > > > Enlightenment: What is it that inspires Meditators to take the
next
> > > > step, to learn the TM-Sidhi program?
> > > > 
> > > > Doug Birx: The foundation is a good experience of
transcending, and
> > > > appreciating what a great value that is to their life. On that 
> > > basis,
> > > > there is an openness when Maharishi brings out the point,
through a
> > > > lecture or a tape, that we could accelerate this growth of 
> > > consciousness.
> > > > 
> > > > "Maharishi said this new technique would be something that would 
> > > more
> > > > quickly shrink the gap between our present ability to
transcend and
> > > > the time that would be coming in the future, through repeated
> > > > transcending, when this experience would become an all time
reality.
> > > > arriving at that source of thought. Maharishi said this new 
> > > technique
> > > > would be something that would more quickly shrink the gap between 
> > > our
> > > > present ability to transcend and the time that would be coming in 
> > > the
> > > > future, through repeated transcending, when this experience would
> > > > become an all time reality."
> > > > 
> > > > "In the West, Meditators had been transcending for 35 or 40
years, 
> > > so
> > > > the Laws of Nature were being directly enlivened for all that
time.
> > > > But the Soviet Union hadn't had any Meditators until shortly
before 
> > > we
> > > > arrived."
> > > > 
> > > > Me:
> > > > But wont a person appreciating the "great value" of transcending 
> > > prove
> > > > that they don't understand the teaching like Judy does?  What
would
> > > > Doug Birx know about the use of the word "transcending".  You
might
> > > > want to get him to tighten up Judy.
> > > > 
> > > > My original quotes:
> > > > 
> > > > "As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very
> > > > overrated as a valuable experience. "
> > > > 
> > > > "How could so many people drop
> > > > the practice if transcending was all that?"
> > > > 
> > > > Doug Birx: The foundation is a good experience of
transcending, and
> > > > appreciating what a great value that is to their life.
> > > > 
> > > > Now lets see Judy's integrity at work.
> > > 
> > > Let's see *your* integrity at work, Curtis.  What's
> > > the difference between what you said and what Doug
> > > is saying?
> > > 
> > > Hint: He is *not* talking about valuing the experience
> > > *during meditation*.
> > 
> > ...an editor who only corrects those who *need* 
> > to be corrected. Obviously, anyone who believes
> > what she believes doesn't need it.
> > 
> > Now that we've settled the issue of hypocrisy
> > and who on this newsgroup embodies it, let's
> > get back to the Laws of Manu and how I'm going
> > to convince that 20 year old that I'm perfect
> > for her.  :-)
> >
>







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