Turq, Lots of interesting points. I agree that there is hope for Spraig. Different MO altogether.
Interesting stuff about the Chinese herbalists. Do you take ginseng? I go back and forth with it. I have read so many conflicting reports and my own experience varies. The whole question of which kind and the quality makes my head spin. I do remember buying some domestic roots that seemed to make me "strong like bull", but I was so young then anyway. So far the fountain of youth for me is to keep moving the weights. That seems to reverse the trend of lowered human growth hormones. Especially squats. That has an amazing tonic effect on my whole body. Any Chinese stuff you can name for me to try out? I have a good Chinese herbalist (I think, how would I know?) in the huge Vietnamese shopping center near me. I would be willing to test some stuff. It is a mindbender even being in that place. Their claims are so complex it will be years till they can test them properly so I think we just have to wing it and see if it helps. I also believe that use it or lose it is the law of our bodies. Now, on the women in different age groups. I can relate to all you said. I don't have too many preconceptions about ages, I try to take people case by case. But you can't help notice some patterns. For me the downsides of the 20's started to add up too high. I consider the goals of the person's stage of life. Someone in their early 30's who has never had kids is a bad match. Too focused on fulfilling that goal and I do not share it. Lately I have had good experiences with women my own age who have raised their kids and let them go, and are ready to explore life again. If they have the fitness bug and a positive attitude it can be a fantastic match for me. They don't all have negative baggage. But they have to be readers. I don't care what the subjects but they gotta love books. That raises the conversation level and makes every day an intellectual discovery. Kindness is a quality you can pick up on real quickly. I can't believe I ever budged on this criteria in my dumbass past! But now I get it. Life with a kind person makes every day sweet. Without it, every day is a sentence in hell. Of course to put up with me they pretty much have to be kind anyway right? It has taken me almost half a century but I am making better choices these days and my happiness with my life reflects that. Youth truly is wasted on the young! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > Turq, > > > > Yeah, that was amazing. What were the chances that I would find a > > quote of Doug Birx using the exact terminology that Spraig and Judy > > insisted was proof that I never understood the teaching properly! > > Judy failed the test but I still have hope that Spraig,who started > > this nonsense, will step up and do the right thing. Spraig? > > I honestly think that Sparaig is a good guy, and > quibbles about these minor verbal nitpicks out of habit > from a.m.t., where the "standard" for "debating" has > almost been defined as quibbling over nitpicks for a > long time now. > > Another factor to bear in mind is that almost every > time he states a strong opinion here and someone > challenges him on it, a certain person has to come > rushing in like the calvary to "rsscue" him. I think > she feels that it's loyalty of some kind; I kinda > imagine that Sparaig cringes ever time she does it, > and wishes she wouldn't. At this point on FFL, having > Judy's "support" is probably a lot like having Bush's > support if you're a Republican running for reelection. > > > Now on to more important matters... > > The Charaka Samhita is your Vedic support for your conquest > > of young hotties. It specifically prescribes being with > > them as a tonic. > > Interestingly, it's the same thing in Chinese tonic > herbology. I had a friend who studied under a famous > herbalist, and much of their practice involved sex > tonics -- things that increased yang in older men > for whom it had grown deficient. The Chinese tonic > herb system is very interesting -- there are over > 10,000 beneficial herbs known, but less than 100 > of them fall into the category of the tonic herbs. > The criteria for that are that they balance (if you > have high blood pressure, you could take any number > of other herbs, but you'd have to stop taking them > as your blood pressure neared normal; with the tonic > herbs, if you had high blood pressure it will lower > it to normal, and if you had low blood pressure it > will raise it to normal), they have no known non- > beneficial side effects, and a few other qualities. > > The reason they are interested in restoring sexual > balance is not pandering to horny old farts, by the > way. They believe that one of the keys to longevity > *is* balance, and if one has lost one's sexual > desire and/or has trouble fulfilling them, that > is a sign of a much larger and more dangerous > imbalance. These theories seem to work themselves > out in real life; I was introduced to several > Chinese tonic herbalists in their 90s and over > 100 years old who are not only still practicing, > they're married and still having kids. The herbalist > I got to know the best had a wife 25 years younger > than he was. > > > You may not want to go as young as they prescribed,(think > > of the age of a girl Michael Jackson would want if he were > > hetero), but the Vedic literature is clearly on your side. > > Of course the masagonistic Vedas are skewed towards the > > man's benefit. There is no mention of what the young > woman gets out of it. I'm sure you'll think of something. > > She would get *me*, silly. Oh. You meant that I'll > think of something that works... :-) > > Strangely enough, when New Morning corrected his > earlier "perfect" age for me to 32, I breathed a > sigh of relief. I actually do get along better in > most cases with younger women than older ones > (because we have more in common -- no kids, love > of travel, often similar interests in music and > reading, etc.), but I'm glad I don't have to learn > 20s-speak. Low thirties has always been really > good for me. I actually *like* older women, in > their forties or fifties, but to be honest it's > difficult to find women with whom I have very > much in common from that age group. Let's face > it, what I'm looking for is someone who has paid > their dues in some spiritual pursuit and under- > stands what that adds -- and subtracts -- from > one's life. I've tried dating women from that age > group before, and often all they can find to talk > about is their kids (even if they've moved away) > and how they want to find some place to "settle > down" with a partner and basically wait to die. > Sorry. That's just not me. I hope to be traveling > and doing crazy things right up to the end, so > younger women who can handle that really *are* > probably a better choice for me. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Judy:> It was an attempt to get you to *correct* the word > > > > > > you used, Curtis. You've discredited yourself by > > > > > > refusing to do so. > > > > > > There is so much "meat" here for analysis that the > > > mind boggles. Judy feels that she is the universe's > > > editor... > > > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/main_pages/maharishi.html > > > > > > > > > > From the TM org site: > > > > > > > > > > 1972: Maharishi inaugurates his World Plan and creates a new > science > > > > > -- the Science of Consciousness, the Science of Creative > > > > Intelligence, > > > > > training 2,000 teachers of this science [by now 40,000] to > bring the > > > > > timeless message of Transcending to all parts of the globe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But wont him teaching the message of transcending confuse people > > > > about > > > > > the value of thoughts in meditaion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.enmag.org/09/9birx2.htm > > > > > > > > > > Enlightenment: What is it that inspires Meditators to take the > next > > > > > step, to learn the TM-Sidhi program? > > > > > > > > > > Doug Birx: The foundation is a good experience of > transcending, and > > > > > appreciating what a great value that is to their life. On that > > > > basis, > > > > > there is an openness when Maharishi brings out the point, > through a > > > > > lecture or a tape, that we could accelerate this growth of > > > > consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > "Maharishi said this new technique would be something that would > > > > more > > > > > quickly shrink the gap between our present ability to > transcend and > > > > > the time that would be coming in the future, through repeated > > > > > transcending, when this experience would become an all time > reality. > > > > > arriving at that source of thought. Maharishi said this new > > > > technique > > > > > would be something that would more quickly shrink the gap between > > > > our > > > > > present ability to transcend and the time that would be coming in > > > > the > > > > > future, through repeated transcending, when this experience would > > > > > become an all time reality." > > > > > > > > > > "In the West, Meditators had been transcending for 35 or 40 > years, > > > > so > > > > > the Laws of Nature were being directly enlivened for all that > time. > > > > > But the Soviet Union hadn't had any Meditators until shortly > before > > > > we > > > > > arrived." > > > > > > > > > > Me: > > > > > But wont a person appreciating the "great value" of transcending > > > > prove > > > > > that they don't understand the teaching like Judy does? What > would > > > > > Doug Birx know about the use of the word "transcending". You > might > > > > > want to get him to tighten up Judy. > > > > > > > > > > My original quotes: > > > > > > > > > > "As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very > > > > > overrated as a valuable experience. " > > > > > > > > > > "How could so many people drop > > > > > the practice if transcending was all that?" > > > > > > > > > > Doug Birx: The foundation is a good experience of > transcending, and > > > > > appreciating what a great value that is to their life. > > > > > > > > > > Now lets see Judy's integrity at work. > > > > > > > > Let's see *your* integrity at work, Curtis. What's > > > > the difference between what you said and what Doug > > > > is saying? > > > > > > > > Hint: He is *not* talking about valuing the experience > > > > *during meditation*. > > > > > > ...an editor who only corrects those who *need* > > > to be corrected. Obviously, anyone who believes > > > what she believes doesn't need it. > > > > > > Now that we've settled the issue of hypocrisy > > > and who on this newsgroup embodies it, let's > > > get back to the Laws of Manu and how I'm going > > > to convince that 20 year old that I'm perfect > > > for her. :-) > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/zAINmC/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
