I agree. Glenda, this is so inappropriate for this list. This is an inflammatory issue that does *not* belong on our FELVtalk list,

I think everyone else understands this. This is a Feline Leukemia list, and that's a very clear boundary.

I think FELVtalk has always been lenient about OT topics, which is great, but you're not even masking it as OT. The problem is it's a disagreement between folks, and can only serve to alienate folks and create hostility on this list, and we need the list for FELV topics that are going to help FELV cats and their people.

If we can't understand this voluntarily, let's get James, the moderator, involved.


On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

The way to cool it down is to tell people the topic is closed, place anyone who doesn't understand "closed" on moderated status, and delete posts on the topic. Unfortunately this sort of nastiness is why groups need moderators. Sometimes things get out of hand and someone has to step in and take charge of the situation.

Lance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
James wouldn't be the first moderator to do that. Michael has tried to
cool it down on one of the
Yahoo! lists, but apparently a few people have an overwhelming
compulsion to keep this going.
I'd say that's a pretty sad situation as well, considering that they
obviously have lots of energy,
and they could take that and devote it all to taking care of cats
instead siphoning off some to
beat dead horses. That's how it goes, I guess.


On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:09:19 -0800 (PST), "Susan Hoffman"
> And why is it on this list?
> I would ask the moderator to declare a moratorium on this topic. It
> has nothing to do with FeLV and has degenerated into a flaming war.
> MaryChristine wrote:
> glenda, dear, exactly who and what gives you permission to post things
> that are supposedly private communications to me?
> On Dec 12, 2007 11:47 AM, glenda Goodman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> -----------------------
> >
> > From: Sheila Smith
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:28 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: Kelly Saveika hearing..........
> >
> > I just saw this post. Oh well, I am going to let
> > it slide b/c I have bigger fish to fry, but... you
> > are very good at cut and paste. I mean you managed
> > the gist of it ok.. I AM watching you. Remember ARC
> > in Midlothian, Tx and the hundreds of cats that
> > suffered and died in the name of "rescue"? Years of
> > being tied up in court and $40K later, but it was
> > the best money I ever spent b/c it was FOR the
> > animals.
> >
> > I thought if there are still any open minded
> > people still left on this list you would like to
> > know the disposition of some of the fifteen cats we
> > rescued.
> > Five have been adopted including one (Cinderella)
> > I adopted myself and two that were adopted by Susan,
> > six are going to barn placement, two will go to
> > Best Friends, two are still too weak to place and
> > are recovering from the effects of poor nutrition
> > and dehydration (one of which had to have surgery)
> > according to their veterinarian- although their
> > prognosis is now good.
> >
> > On another note, I really do hope you all do go
> > back to the focus of feline leukemia. I think this
> > group must have had great focus at one time- I
> > joined initially b/c I thought it did and b/c I felt
> > I had a lot to offer the group b/c of my extensive
> > experience w/ feline leukemia and b/c of my husbands
> > participation in national boards. etc. I was
> > excited to hear from other people across the country
> > that had experience with feline leukemia.
> > I really do hope the very best for all of you and
> > I hope you all do really good things for the animals
> > in your care. I hope you all will remember this
> > though. You are the animals advocate. You are not
> > the caretaker's advocate at the end of the day.
> > While we all wish good things for the caretakers and
> > we worry about anyone burning out and we offer
> > mentoring, guidance and help, in the end there are
> > multiple resources for people. There are nurses,
> > doctors, mental health experts, counseling. you name
> > it. BUT.. For the animals they abused, there is only
> > YOU.
> >
> > You are bound to speak for THEM- the dead cats in
> > the closets- no one else will.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Sheila Smith
> > www.shadowcats.net
> > Austin, Tx
> >
> >
> >
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