Hello, I'd like to chime in my two cents on this issue. This is just my opinion take it for what it's worth. First of all, i agree with everything regarding the difficulty of changing a law. If your an individual, frankly forget it. NFB, ACB, and AFB, they won't take on a single person's task, casen point I had $5000+ worth of assistive technology in a bag illegally seized and destroyed, the perpetrators just lied to an official investigation and i'm still out. I took the situation to both the state and national NFB and ACB, neither would assist me. My point is unless it's an issue effecting the as Thomas put it 80%+ of blind individuals it's not financially feasible for them to do so. Frankly, it's rubbish, but it's also reality. As far as the issue of games vs. books I really don't see where we're doing so great in the books category either. Please don't take this next comment as a slight on bookshare, for it certainly is not and is not intended to be, I am a bookshare member myself and enjoy the service having also recommended it to several friends. I'm going to speak of college textbooks, and while it's true bookshare does have some, they don't have all, and they don't have the fifth edition of x book but only the third, whereas the profesor wants edition five and won't consent to you having an older edition of the book, forget the fact that 90% of the text probably hasn't changed. To get it in an accessible format, last time I went through college, I had to pay the full price for a print book just to take that to disability services, said sarcastically, just so they not me could contact the publisher and get that book on disk, the publisher won't talk to me directly. And does it come in that day, oh no, six weeks. I hope this has changed. Sorry, i didn't mean to get on a soap box with that last one, but it iritates me when people say things are easy to do and they are not. Collaboration, as Thomas mentioned there are Linux utilities out there that can do source code control but there are also windows equivalents. I would recommend a source code control system such as cvs or subversion for any project whether it's a single individual, or two or more in a collaborative effort. As for setting up a web site that's easy enough to do, paypal donations are no problem, i'm doing both of those at the moment, the point is there are ways to make it all come together. Skype for example can be used for computer to computer calls if there's a time zone difference between developers or long distance charges are a concern. It is possible in my opinion for two or more individuals to work on games, as for standardized language I don't think there is one, but if both developers are confident and competent with C++ for example, use that as your standardized language. Just my two cents. Dave.
On 5/28/10, Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Dark, > Agreed. If we have to compare audio games to something let us try and > compare them to the small independant mainstream game market for the > PC. Although, it might be challenging it is at least something a one > to three man operation can achieve realistically. Those small > companies aren't trying to beat out Capcom or Nintendo, and neither > should we. > If we have to use Nintendo or somebody as a standard then let's aim > for the quality and standards of say the Super NES era. While old by > mainstream standards it would be extremely high considering the > majority of accessible games. there is nothing wrong with games like > Super Donkey Kong, Super Castlevania, Megaman, and other games of that > era. Even now I find games like that enjoyable, and my wife and son > enjoy them too. Just because something is old and isn't the latest > and greatest doesn't make it necessarily bad. > As you mentioned yourself Chess is very old, but is still one of the > most enjoyable board games around. The rules haven't changed in 800 > years or something like that. Should we now decide that it is old and > add new pieces, create a larger board, change the rules, etc just > because it hasn't been updated in so long? Of course not. > Same holds true for vidio games. Just because Super Castlevania is old > doesn't mean it is necessarily bad. It is true that it can't quite > compare to newer encarnations like the later roll playing Castlevania > games, but it still deserves to be considered a good game in its own > right. Judge it for the quality it is rather than trying to judge it > soully on what it lacks compared to modern games. > > Smile. > > > On 5/28/10, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: >> Again Josh, who! is going to do all this? >> >> Changing the law is a long and complex pprocess, and as I said, is dmnably >> difficult when someone with big big money has a vested interest in the law >> being otherwise. >> >> Then, "just get" ppeople toc ollaborate in that way on a game is, as Tom >> ward said, far easier said than done. >> >> if you have the odd 500 k dollars floating around you might employ a bunch >> of developers for a couple of years who will work full time, get enough >> resources in terms of sound libraries, necessary third party developement >> components etc, and perhaps come up with a game of similar quality to sf 4 >> etc. >> >> As for the modification of a console, ---- see the above mentioning of >> law, >> then apply the word license, ditto with publicity, ---- heck, i can't even >> raise the thousand pounds or so it'd take for me to go to the site village >> exhibition as a representative of audiogames.net >> >> This is why I strongly suggest that people, instead of considdering audio >> games comapred to the mainstream console markit, considder the >> independently >> produced pc games which have been built with similar amounts of resources, >> time and man power. >> >> yes, audio games are stil behind in this respect, but the gap is >> changing, ---- especially with games like time of conflict, rail racer and >> entombed, and establishing a core of highly playable pc games with replay, >> expantion and variety is I think a far more realistic aime than trying to >> beat sony or nintendo. >> >> Beware the grue! >> >> Dark. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.