Hi Charles,

Ummm...Judgment Day is not a side-scroller. Its a virtical shooter in
the style of SpaceInvaders etc.

Cheers!


On 5/19/11, Charles Rivard <woofer...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Are Judgment Day, Super Liam, and the betas of MOTA the same?  Even though
> they are side scrollers, no.  This is why I don't think that the attitude of
> not creating a side scroller because they already exist is not the way to
> look at what to produce.  I have an idea for a bowling game.  How many of
> them exist for blind gamers to play with absolutely not one bit of sighted
> assistance from start to finish?  Should I produce it?  Should I get
> together with a programmer and share the rewards because I don't know
> programming?  Or should I forget it because of what already exists.
>
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>> Hi Dark,
>>
>> That's possible. Remember the VI gaming market as a whole hasn't had
>> much experience with games outside this community and maybe what
>> his/her friends/family play. This might contribute to the feeling of
>> well if there is a game like Tarzan Junior set in the jungle then
>> another side-scroller such as Perilous Hearts wouldn't sell. Of
>> course, as we've already heard the two games are quite different in
>> game play, and I'm certainly thinking of buying Perilous Hearts based
>> on what I've heard alone. So the side-scroller genre is far from
>> played out.
>>
>> As far as arcade games I'm not sure it is totally played out either.
>> Remember you are only thinking of the virtical shooters like Space
>> Invaders. There are games like Time Pilot, Chopper Command, Topgun,
>> Air Wolf, and perhaps hundreds more that have never been tapped in the
>> arcade genre alone. We just need to tap those types of games.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On 5/19/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Tom.
>>>
>>> You are right about side scrollers.
>>>
>>> thinking about this a bit further though, I do wonder if part of the
>>> issue
>>> comes from the fact we have! had such a boom in specifically arcade style
>>> games.
>>>
>>> IWhile I think Liam did a great job with jd, I think the basic arcade
>>> principle of having a set of things you need to react to quickly in order
>>>
>>> to
>>> wrack up score is itself a limiting genre, afterallleft/right sterrio
>>> targiting is! sterrio, whether your shooting copters, planes, alien
>>> spaceships or whatever.
>>>
>>> ditto with boppit or simon style games.
>>>
>>> If however games involve a specific element of exploration and/or
>>> continuous
>>> plot, then even if all mechanics were exactly the same, the basic area of
>>> the game can be intrinsically different.
>>>
>>> Suppose Phil were to create a packman talks Ii with the character and
>>> sfx.
>>>
>>> By altering the layout of the levels, maybe sticking in some new enemies,
>>>
>>> he
>>> could create a game more than different enough from the original for
>>> people
>>> to be interested in buying, simply because! packman talks inolves
>>> physical
>>> exploration of a maze, and that maze can be altered irrispective of
>>> gameplay
>>> elements.
>>> Mega man x 1 and mega man x 2 are pretty similar, indeed in one gameboy
>>> title megaman extreme, bosses and level elements from both games were
>>> included.
>>>
>>> But because the enemies, locations, weapons and bosses changed, even
>>> though
>>> the core mechanics of the game didn't, the two games are very different
>>> to
>>> play.
>>>
>>> As someone who played (and indeed owns), many of the side scrollers
>>> produced
>>> in the early nineties, I absolutely agree with you.
>>>
>>> Look at Philip bennifalls perilous hearts and how many people have become
>>> interested just from the preview.
>>>
>>> A side scroller set in the jungle? ---- isn't that a bit similar to
>>> Tarzan
>>> jr? or Q9? ---- heck no!
>>>
>>> Beware the grue!
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>
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