For the most part I agree with you Jeremy, but what did you acumplish by saying something like I think thomas feels left out and needs more attention in the thread of castaways you refer to. It could not convince him or change anything he already said.
I hope we can get back to gaming now. On 7/20/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky <jer...@kaldobsky.com> wrote: > Richard, I am completely behind you on this! Well written, and I was > personally surprised when I started seeing the messages changing in Thomas' > favor on this. Whether intentional, or not, the extra drama put into his > last post seems to have blinded people from what was really going on. If > Thomas was being harassed off-list, by people expecting his games to be > finished, then that is very unfortunate, but also totally unrelated to any > of what has just happened between him and Che. > > I think people are taking sides, because they aren't paying attention to > what the issue has been. I'll give an example, that will hopefully > illustrate the point I am trying to make. If my neighbor was a racist, and > he was unjustly hurtful to people, it would be wrong of me to stand by his > side if one of those people started to argue with him. Even though he was > never mean to me, I have to look at the current situation, and admit that he > Was! doing wrong to that person, or group of people. When people take > Thomas' side on this, because he was wrote helpful posts, because he worked > on games they enjoy, or because he is a nice person, then they are making > this very same mistake. This argument is a result of how he speaks to other > programmers, so if you are not one, you can't use the fact that he was kind > to you as defense for his actions. > > Excuses have been made, that Thomas is simply misunderstood, but I doubt > that is the case most of the time. Before I Ever! had any personal dealings > with Thomas, I read posts where he clearly put down other developers, and > made himself seem like their superior. I had seen this done to other > people, and eventually I stepped in to defend someone who I felt was being > treated especially bad by Thomas. I can't remember who it was now, but at > the time they were so fed up with his posts, that they were considering > giving up programming altogether. By stepping in to the conversation, I > became a target myself, and I had Thomas criticizing how I do things. He > wouldn't stop posting more, so eventually I told him off, and vowed never to > argue with him about programming languages again! > > Since that time, I've seen him poke at a few other people, but as soon as > the castaways game started to get popular, there was Thomas, posting a huge > put down of my methods, for no reason whatsoever. Many of you probably > remember it, as it was not posted long ago. There was no reason to post > anything about programming languages, but Thomas decided to go off on a > familiar rant, presumably to point out that my game's success wasn't as > deserving because it was not done his way. Several people openly posted > about how inappropriate he was with his negative comments. > > Like it or not, Thomas seems to believe that he is better than many other > developers around here. Instead of letting people do things their own way, > he insists on pressuring others do follow in his footsteps, and won't stop > even if you tell him you are happy with your own choice. > > Please keep this in mind before you take sides. Be fair, and remember that > even if someone wasn't bothering You! personally, it doesn't mean he/she > wasn't bothering other people in an unfair way. Sorry if people don't agree > with me, but that is how I see it. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://firstname.lastname@example.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://email@example.com. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.