On 02/10/2013 03:52 AM, Richard Gitschlag wrote:

 > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:40:54 +0100
 > From: mader...@gmail.com
 > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP
 > On 02/07/2013 02:16 AM, WhoCares wrote:
 > > Hi Whomever is listening,
 > >
 > > I don't use The GIMP very much, but today I pulled out 2.8.2
(Ubuntu + MATE) so
 > > I could put some screenies together. 2 things hit me immediately:
 > >
 > > - Firstly, I can't really use the toolbox anymore. This could be
more specific
 > > to my system, but the top of the toolbox slides under my top panel.
This is a
 > > more general problem with my system and certain applications after
switching to
 > > MATE, so like I said .. it might be system specific. What may or
may not be
 > > system specific is the bottom of the toolbox sliding off the bottom
of the
 > > screen (768). The end result is .. I can only resize the toolbox
 > > so the thing is just .. in the way of the whole screen height.
 > >
 > > - Secondly (and more importantly) it would seem that The GIMP is
now enforcing
 > > that I use Ctrl + E to save my images, else it tries to get me to
use XCF
 > > format. The problem with XCF format (for me at least) is that not
everyone I
 > > work with uses The GIMP, hence I never use the XCF format. My
instant reaction
 > > with any program while working is to frequently use Ctrl + S to
save my current
 > > file to it's current location without further intervention. So
essentially this
 > > functionality is .. well, not consistent with any other piece of
software I've
 > > seen in the last 25 years.
 > Hi
 > I spent lot of time here asking why "save as" and "save" normal
 > functions are now unavailable in Gimp.
 > My conclusion: this new Gimp behaviour prevents newbies, to loose their
 > work.

The case in point:  In GIMP up thru 2.6:  Create image, add layers and
make edits, save as XCF.  Then "Save As" a JPG.  All good so far,
right?  Now make more edits, "Save" and quit GIMP.  Then upon
restarting, reload the XCF file to continue making more edits.   But
OOPS!  The XCF isn't up to date with all the edits because your last
Save command targetted the JPG file.

Ideally you should have been using "Save a Copy" for this scenario but
apparently nobody ever wanted to do that (and the command is basically
redundant in 2.8 anyway).

Much noise about common functions.......
Why complicate things ? This is a false problem. Any editor (gimp,libreoffice, krita, etc..) user must (learn to) save his work and should not rely on automation that slows work. Gimp should follow the standards available in all editors. It does not, it is very annoying.

"Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures."
"L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure" (Georges Braque)

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