On 12/9/2011 9:54 AM, Harry McGregor wrote:
Hi,

On 12/9/11 7:36 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote:
BTW, you keep suggesting I'm spreading hearsay.  I'm not.  A friend of
mine was a manager at an Apple call centre.  The orders came down from
Apple.  Maybe he was lying, but I'm not sure why he would.  Heck, look
at the response Apple had to the MacDefender infections, or the
dropped calls on the iPhone.  Not everything is rainbows and unicorns
in the Apple world.

Link:
http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/apple-support-instructions.png?tag=content;siu-container

How do you deal with virus infections? Frankly, it not an issue with Apple hardware, it's a software issue. I personally don't consider this as the same thing has having a hardware problem.

Now, concerning antenna gate. It was a difficult issue to see clearly on. We all know if you cover a phone with fat, lossy hand, that radio-wave signals are going to get through as well as if they fat lossy hand wasn't there. And, while there really was an issue with the antenna design on the iPhone 4 (one should never put the antenna on the outside so fat, grubby hands go short out the parts), it likely would never have come to light if SJ hadn't made a big deal of the "brilliant engineering" that went into the phone! While that was a good moment of marketing entertainment, it put the focus on Apple's new hardware in way that made it too easy to challenge it all.

Again, those are murky issues, though. The fact still remains that when my device was clearly not working and could not be fixed, I and a new one the very next day (within 12 hours of first noticing the problem). I can't say that about any other manufacturer that I know of. Samsung, LG, Acer, Asus, Dell, Lenovo, etc. It's unique to Apple.


BTW, I'm not sure where you guys are buying PCs, but at my shop, we go
to a great effort to treat people well - no we don't hand people brand
new PCs to replace their old ones, but we do try.  So the idea that
only Apple offers great service isn't accurate.  Surely we can't be
the only PC shop on the planet that treats people well.
I think we found the issue.  Your in an area where a small computer shop
with good customer service is still able to survive.

Most of the US is not that way.   There is one independent shop here in
Tucson that actually has inventory of any sort, and a couple of repair
shop only places.

+1 on what Harry is saying. I would NEVER buy a PC from a PC shop here. We have one here and it just blows by my standards...but even if it didn't, I wasn't even considering them in the comparisons here. I'm talking Apple Vs Lenovo vs Dell vs the big name brands, not local PC shops that sell and service equipment. So we are getting wires crossed on the discussion. I don't see how Thane can compete with the Apples, Lenovos, and Dells of this world. You can certainly make a living from servicing folks who buy computers from those brands, or building your own custom machines (which, around here, suck so bad it just stinks).

The one that carries inventory tends to not have the greatest customer
service, as the owner (who I know quite well) has been jerked around and
ripped off by too many customers.

+1

Repair time in most shops for a desktop is 5-12 days.

The shop we have here has an outside area where people bring their machines in to work on them. I've never quite understood that part of their business model, but whenever I go in their looking for cable or something they have lots of people sitting around fiddling with their own machines.


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