On Feb 25, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:

Some thoughts from someone on the other side.

What's the point of saying "Oh, I'm an outsourced nobody." in a post where one is asking for help. So you may choose to not answer or sit on your high horse and ridicule their incompetence when they're struggling? If you guys (actual mainframe folk with decades of background) are going to compare outsourced folk vs yourselves, you're doing it wrong. Most of your outsourced folk are younger than the total experience you may have. Of course they're going to be inferior. Do you call a baby rubbish because it can't write a sonnet? Yes, the baby has no business writing sonnets but welcome to the world of outsourcing.

When deciding to outsource, your employer has chosen money over the people who have served him/her for a long time. Don't take out your anger and disgust on people who are struggling to better themselves because they have massive shoes to fill. It's not his/her action that has led to you being laid off and being forced to accept ridiculous things (train or you don't get your 401k or whatever) in your last hours (on the job).

That said, here's some actual feedback which may not be possible to implement at all though: 1. Exercise as many choices as you must to ensure you do not suffer. Try as hard as you can to not accept people who can't speak basic English. The big man at the outsourcer may not leave that choice to you but trust me, this is the root of all the abscess that you're (employer) being charged for. "This guy can't speak, so let's make him work under some 15,000 managers who repeat the same thing without adding value." Oh, and BTW, these managers are paid a f*k load more than the people working, I would assume.

2. Offshoring development, IMHO, is the worst thing you can do.
You want your company to work on code that's written by someone who's knowledge is extremely limited, and someone who would keep trying to nail everything because he has a hammer?

3. If you are able to pick the right (technical) people, keep the overhead (hey, if we're "resources", what's above us ought to be "overhead" right?) to an extreme minimum.

Who knows, some day Watson may make the whole industry go away and one machine may manage the other. At that point, you get to say "Ha! No more of these 'incompetent masses'".

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

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Ed

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