"Bryan J. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PostgreSQL used to offer a commercial entity. Maybe one could start one > built around it. Although Red Hat has now done that on their end too.
I still hold that these certs shouldn't be controlled by commercial entities. As for PostgreSQL, I went up to their booth and said 'who should I talk to in your group that is interested in talking about a cert?' They pointed me to two guys that wanted to help out. My take from the conversation, though, is that they couldn't think of anyone other that LPI that could help them accomplish the job. They're also two of the people that I'll be inviting to this mailing list, since it seems that no one objects to discussing this topic on this list. > I know, I know. I agree 100%. But with limited resources, that's where > I've seen LPI at. I, of course, don't I don't think that resources are as big an issue as you think. I know that LPI has been offered money [one form of resource] in the past from very large philanthropic groups. I would rather approach this from the 'let's define the scope, requirements and partnerships' and then find the resources to accomplish it. > I'd just market LPI to other companies like Prosoft Training, etc... > They seem to be willing to accept other certifications. So they'd be my > recommendation for getting a "LAMP certification now" strategy: > > Linux: LPIC-1 or LPIC-2 (maybe 2 levels?) I was thinking that it could be either LPIC-1 or just one of the LPIC-1 exams [maybe 101; it seems to cover more of the LAMP-ish stuff, like Unix commands, installation and package management. Although, 102 covers networking]. > Apache: CIW Sys Admin exam or possibly new Apache.ORG exam Have a guy that is _very_ keen on this [also in the Seattle area, BTW]. He's already done a lot of the work on a JTA, too. > MySQL: Various MySQL AB exams There is probably a big snag with these guys. My understanding is that they didn't do proper pschometric evaluations on their exam and it may not be 'up to snuff' :( Something to explore with them, though. > PHP/Perl: Zend PHP Exam or CIW Perl exam option I agree, in principal, that we should look at partnering with existing exams. I'm sitting on the card for the Director of Certification and Training for Zend and he seems to be interested in the possibilities. I hope that it doesn't sound like name/connection dropping. I just went around the OSCON show floor and bugged everyone in sight. I even got the card of an ActiveState Director by saying, "So since Sophos bought you, do you guys have any control over your own spending?" This guy claimed that he could authorize a sponsorship for something like this. > But at this time, I could see an _independent_ (training-oriented, > non-LPI aligned other than LPI pre-requisite) LAMP certification being > almost immediately available. That's all I was suggesting. Yep. Personally, I hate PHP. But I do see it as an avenue to a quick LAMP, too. And it may get the other guys motivated ;) > But I was wondering how feasible it is. If CIW, or someone else, moved > in that direction now, it would at least see LPI getting more > consideration (since LPIC-1 or LPIC-2 would be required) I understand what you're getting at now. > I offered my suggestion on the Security Level 3 to follow the 7 domains > of the CBoK that are aligned with the ISC2 SSCP -- since LPI could align > real-world, platform-centric, task oriented questions around the more > theory, platform-agnostic generalizations of the latter. I saw that. It's a good idea. > As such, I'm sure CIW would openly accept a future Apache.ORG exam, PHP > or Perl exam as an "equivalent" of its own respective exam in its LAMP > program at a latter date. They've done that before. That's very interesting to hear. It could be a stopgap solution. Let them CIW have a "LAMP" cert until LPI could fill in all the holes and then announce an LPI LAMP cert? It could piss CIW off. BTW, I would neither be in favour nor opposed to this idea. I'm taking the long-term view that even if it takes a year or two to launch a full LPI-lead LAMP cert, so be it. Launch what we can do, as we do it. Even with 2 years, we'd still be certifying Perl6 people before Perl6 came out <muahahaha>. Regards, -- g. matthew rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> starnix, thornhill, ontario, ca phone: 905-771-0017 x242 gpg id: EF9AAD20 http://www.starnix.com professional linux services & products _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
