the old nurburgring - that'd be a TV directors nightmare!!!
theory 1 is interesting
zac
----- Original Message -----
From: abrahamk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
> That was the Alfa-Brabbham flat 12.
> There is an interesting write up on it in Allan Staniforth's "Race and
Rally
> Car Preparation".
> Even in the pits when the mechanics would blip the engine, the whole car
> would just hoover/squat itself to the ground and then spring back up!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> My theory for interesting racing is-
> 1.That race tracks should be allowed to deteriorate so that there are lots
> of lumps and bumps. This would force the teams to run soft suspension to
> avoid spearing off the track. To avoid the cars squatting down onto their
> bump stops and pitching at high speed they would be forced to run less
wing.
> Voila! Drifting is back.
> 2.Variety, not 'even' racing is what is interesting.
> All F1 cars are V10 engined, with pretty much the same chassis - only
detail
> changes. The F1 solution has 'converged'.
> The best race I ever saw was the last one at Amaroo Park between a Mini
> Cooper and a Ford Falcon Sprint. The Mini could outbrake and outcorner the
> Falcon, but would just get blown away on the straights - I found it
> enthralling.
> Similar story at Bathurst, everyone has seen the old footage of Moffat
> bouncing down Conrod in his GTHO Phase 3 on stock looking suspension at
140+
> Mph.
> Holden gave up trying to out-muscle it and went for SLR cars.
> 3. Only race on 'real' tracks, Bathurst, Nurburgring (old), Monza (old),
> Brands Hatch, etc... Ban chicanes outright, at least one, preferably all
> corners to be heart in mouth, 100%-commitment stuff - SWEET.
> Just think, if Joe Public got interested in motor sport again he might
even
> learn to drive properly!!
> Nick,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pooley, Trevor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 3:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
>
>
> > I remember a few years back one team got in poo because they designed
this
> > fan type of thing that sucked the car to the road, that would be great
for
> > grip, but someone spewed and it got outlawed like many other great
ideas!!
> >
> > I remember that, they worked like a reverse hovercraft and used ground
> > effects to suck the car down on the ground. They could then run less
front
> > and rear wing ie less drag at high speed. They were in real hot poo when
> the
> > ground effects ripped off from scraping the ground too much. I think
thats
> > why it was banned. In those days they had active suspension to. Hmmm
> >
> > Trev
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geordie Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 15:42
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> >
> >
> > Hmm, Tyres depend a lot on aerodynamic grip too. If the car aint sitting
> on
> > the road then the tyres can't grip.
> >
> > I remember a few years back one team got in poo because they designed
this
> > fan type of thing that sucked the car to the road, that would be great
for
> > grip, but someone spewed and it got outlawed like many other great
ideas!!
> >
> > The rules should be written to this effect:
> > * Do anything you like, except ram other cars. It's not a demo derby,
it's
> a
> > race.
> > * Make the fastest car possible, but do it safely.
> > * Go as fast as you like.
> > * May the best team win!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zac Campbell
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 1:57 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > >
> > >
> > > That's not the answer Geordie :)
> > > FIA fucked up a few years ago when they introduced the grooved
> > > tyres. It did
> > > achieve one of their objectives which was to remove some control
> > > from the drivers.
> > > You do see them getting a bit sideways occasionally (supposedly
> > > adds to excitement)
> > > but FIA forgot that they are the best drivers in the world! :)
> > > But it also made
> > > passing very difficult. Thus making the racing a little boring
> > > and placing too
> > > much emphasis on pitstops.
> > >
> > > What they need is more tyre grip and less aerodynamic grip.
> > >
> > > zac
> > >
> > > >This sort of racing is getting way too restrictive. It's becoming
quite
> > > >boring really... I reckon they should scrap all the rules and
> > > start again.
> > >
> > > >If they want 100,000hp and are able to develop it, then I reckon
> > > let 'em!!
> > >
> > > >:)
> > > >
> > > >Changing rules because one team is more competitive is not what
> > > it's about
> > >
> > > >in my opinion. I reckon, let the better driver with the better
> technology
> > > >win, fair and square!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zac
> Campbell
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 1:12 PM
> > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Terry, Ferrari admitted before the race they were going to use
> > > >> this cooling technique.
> > > >> It is currently not banned (so was available for Monza) but FIA
> > > >> have decided
> > > >> to ban it immediately, effective next race (Indianapolis).
> > > >> McLaren aren't happy cos they lost!!!
> > > >>
> > > >> zac
> > > >>
> > > >> >Did you hear that Farari got caught chilling their fuel for
> > > Monza at the
> > >
> > > >> >weekend - will Michael lose the points? McLaren are not happy
> > > >> about it for
> > > >>
> > > >> >some reason.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >terry
> > > >> >
> > > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad
> HALLETT
> > > >> >Sent: Monday, 11 September 2000 11:06 PM
> > > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Mate of mine just built a burnout car, and they have a 'chilly
> > > >> bin' between
> > > >>
> > > >> >the surge tank and the fuel rail. It is an aluminium box,
> > > with a copper
> > >
> > > >> >coil through the middle. Fuel goes through the copper coil, and
> > > >> they fill
> > > >>
> > > >> >the box with ice before a run, ensuring very cold fuel. I must
> > > >> play with my
> > > >>
> > > >> >12V Engel to see if I can rig up a permanent solution!!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Regards
> > > >> >Brad HALLETT
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Proudly Endorsing:
> > > >> >...DATRATS...
> > > >> >http://203.33.35.3
> > > >> >Datsun Dedicated
> > > >> >For Nissan Motorsport Components
> > > >> >Professional Budget Priced competition equipment
> > > >> >Contact Errol SMITH
> > > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Errol
> Smith
> > > >> >Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 PM
> > > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Pete,
> > > >> >Run a restrictor in the return line to the tank and a good Hi Flow
> LP
> > > >> >supply pump. There is no reason you would have a problem on the
> > > >> hottest day
> > > >>
> > > >> >with this setup.
> > > >> >Cheers
> > > >> >Feral Errol.
> > > >> >S13 SR20DE Race Car (KB310), L14 (1598 cc)Road/Race Car
> > > (KB310), KB310
> > >
> > > >> >(S14 SR20 DET) In the system, S3 910 S/Wagon S14 SR20
> > > VVT/Motec, KPA 510
> > >
> > > >> >(Stanza Coupe) stock as a rock, VB11 (Pulsar N13?) Postie
> > > Panel Van (E15
> > >
> > > >> >turbo on Gas Research Carb Yee-Hah!)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >----------
> > > >> >From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
> > > >> >Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:08
> > > >> >
> > > >> >My two cents worth!
> > > >> >I have run the line back to the Surge tank, as I think it's
> > > best to keep
> > >
> > > >> >the
> > > >> >Surge tank full at all times, an example of this is a recent
> > > meeting at
> > >
> > > >> >Winton
> > > >> >on a hot day. Coming into turn one and two, I started to get
> > > >> what seemed to
> > > >>
> > > >> >be
> > > >> >fuel surge, which was caused by the heat factor, if I didn't
> > > run the line
> > >
> > > >> >back
> > > >> >to the surge tank then I would of run out.
> > > >> >I would not rely on the primary pump even on the street, as
> > > you say he is
> > >
> > > >> >probably going to give it a caning.
> > > >> >Peter
> > > >> >SR20DE Race Car (1600)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >justin darragh wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Guys, guys, guys,
> > > >> >> I do understand all that you are saying and thanx but, at the
> > > >> end of the
> > > >>
> > > >> >day
> > > >> >> I am building the thing for a 19yr old who will, no dout do
> > > >> silly things
> > > >>
> > > >> >> with it. There will come the day he is out driving in the heat
> > > >> of summer
> > > >>
> > > >> >> with little cash on a country road, pull into a servo with no
> > > >> >"opti-fen-max"
> > > >> >> and have a good cane and f#*k my beautiful job. I realise that
> surge
> > > >> >return
> > > >> >> has a few advantages but none outway doing a job right the
> > > first time.
> > >
> > > >> >> Nothing excuses a motor detonating from hot fuel. Too many
> > > racers have
> > >
> > > >> >> learnt this. I dont want a 2lt swirl pot or a fuel cooler.
> > > Subs in the
> > >
> > > >> >back
> > > >> >> tells me the system is going under the car so a liter pot is
> > > >> being used.
> > > >>
> > > >> >I
> > > >> >> am returning rail fuel to the tank.Thanx Errol/list
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
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