Specifically #s 60 & 61. They were discussing the nature of Love without any sexual implication (eros?). That is what you reprimanded me for.
peace & Love On May 5, 3:34 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you be more specific? Rigsy denied the presence of Eros, then admitted > she had been just as much in its sway as the rest of us, and described its > function as artistic muse. Rosey and Molly have talked at length about > re-awakening Eros in a tepid marriage. I'm still not sure what posts you're > referring to. > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Tinker <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > <[email protected]>Date:Tue, 5 May 2009 12:13:37 -0700 > (PDT)Local:Tues, May 5 2009 3:13 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the > nature of Love? > > Those immediately preceding our exchange. > > peace & Love > > On May 5, 10:45 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I didn't note any of the ladies straying off Eros. Which posts seemed to do > > so? > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Tinker <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 17:13:46 -0700 > > (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 8:13 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the > > nature of Love? > > > I suppose it was eros that caused you to jump to the defense of the > > ladies going off topic :-) > > > peace & Love > > > On May 4, 7:46 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Of course they have. I'm simply noting that much like Arch's observations > > > on codependency, your statement, although accurate, isn't really an > > > example of Eros at play. > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Tinker <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > > <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 16:30:50 -0700 > > > (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 7:30 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the > > > nature of Love? > > > > 'My' comments have been about the nature of Love. > > > > peace & love > > > > On May 4, 7:21 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > But the whole point here, Tink, was that this wasn't about debate, or > > > > argument, but about opinion, and feeling, and how that translates into > > > > lifestyle. I don't care about justification or condemnation. I'm more > > > > interested in what it means and feels like to other people. You, along > > > > with everyone else here, have been providing that. Analyzing it now as > > > > some sort of qualitative position fails the point of the topic, which > > > > is an open ended question, not a position. Peace and Love, my friend. > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > One can adopt a point of view, with Love, to justify or condemn > > > > > anything. > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On May 4, 7:12 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> ...and thus the discussion of the nature of Love. I'm sure Hinckley > > > > >> would have something to contribute to the conversation. > > > > > >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> > Love can be a powerful source for murder in the mind of a psycho. > > > > > >> > peace & Love > > > > > >> > On May 4, 7:02 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> >> ...and yet Love can be a powerful source for all these things. > > > > > >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Tinker <[email protected]> > > > > >> >> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > I would think the 'exploding in the arts' would be better > > > > >> >> > classified > > > > >> >> > as insight, inspiration or revelation rather than Love. > > > > > >> >> > peace & Love > > > > > >> >> > On May 4, 6:28 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> >> Yes. It explodes in the arts. Have done the whole trip- > > > > >> >> >> painting, > > > > >> >> >> music, needlearts, poetry, gardening, cooking, diplomas. It > > > > >> >> >> still > > > > >> >> >> doesn't cure a lost heart. I am now a hermitess living in a > > > > >> >> >> grand > > > > >> >> >> house. My children are scattered and I was a good mother to > > > > >> >> >> them. > > > > >> >> >> Maybe that is Love. > > > > > >> >> >> On May 4, 5:04 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> >> > Love is beauty and pain defined. But in order to experience > > > > >> >> >> > the pain > > > > >> >> >> > you must see its beauty. Which often happens unexpectedly. I > > > > >> >> >> > wish I > > > > >> >> >> > wasn't one of those people that think with their heart. What > > > > >> >> >> > is the > > > > >> >> >> > value of brilliance when the actions of your heart blind you > > > > >> >> >> > from > > > > >> >> >> > using it? When I think of love, it's a deep, deep, longing > > > > >> >> >> > for > > > > >> >> >> > passion. Perhaps a flight without a plane. Or a swim without > > > > >> >> >> > water. > > > > >> >> >> > Maybe even a delicacy tasted without swallowing. It's there > > > > >> >> >> > but your > > > > >> >> >> > wary from it, worried about losing it, careful but not > > > > >> >> >> > capable of > > > > >> >> >> > determining whether you keep it or not, as love does change. > > > > >> >> >> > It gives > > > > >> >> >> > one the ability to things they would never expect. > > > > > >> >> >> > For example: I was able to play a tune on the piano, yet I > > > > >> >> >> > don't play > > > > >> >> >> > the piano. No, not expertly, I would post a link to it but > > > > >> >> >> > would be > > > > >> >> >> > worried about getting critiqued by experts. I am no expert > > > > >> >> >> > and don't > > > > >> >> >> > play the piano, never have, we bought a keyboard about two > > > > >> >> >> > months ago, > > > > >> >> >> > yet I managed a whole heart felt tune, I closed my eyes and > > > > >> >> >> > let my > > > > >> >> >> > fingers work their own magic. Do you think love gives one > > > > >> >> >> > abilities? > > > > > >> >> >> > On May 4, 5:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> >> > > I am one of you- though disappointed and resigned. I look > > > > >> >> >> > > back over my > > > > >> >> >> > > life as a grief of love. Take my heart but spare me my > > > > >> >> >> > > money. The last > > > > >> >> >> > > time I heard "jaded" was from my highschool sweetheart who > > > > >> >> >> > > I dated for > > > > >> >> >> > > a year after he divorced from a 30 year marriage. He was > > > > >> >> >> > > still a jerk > > > > >> >> >> > > and died soon after I left him. Stuff happens. > > > > > >> >> >> > > On May 4, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins > > > > >> >> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> >> > > > Hmmm...I don't know, from what I hear, age is no barrier > > > > >> >> >> > > > to love nor lust. ;) > > > > > >> >> >> > > > Glad to have you aboard. Strong opening salvo, though! > > > > >> >> >> > > > No soft spot at > > > > >> >> >> > > > all for us romantics? > > > > > >> >> >> > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, rigsy03 > > > > >> >> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Thank you for Monday's laugh! One is allowed. Two > > > > >> >> >> > > > > would be lethal.// I > > > > >> >> >> > > > > wasn't sure this thought would get through but I would > > > > >> >> >> > > > > like to read > > > > >> >> >> > > > > along in this group. I am a grandmother so somewhat > > > > >> >> >> > > > > protected from > > > > >> >> >> > > > > foolish fancy even in the lusty month of May. I lust > > > > >> >> >> > > > > after William > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Safire. :-) Anyway, thanks for the welcome.// > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > On May 4, 10:35 am, Chris Jenkins > > > > >> >> >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> Ah, the voice of the jaded. > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> Welcome, Rigsy. Care to tell us a story? > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> [ Attached Message ]From:rigsy03 > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> 06:16:08 -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 8:16 > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the nature of Love? > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> Love is a myth and marketing tool. > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> On May 4, 8:10 am, Chris Jenkins > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > Not always, but definitely at least sometimes. > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > There is much healing in a loving touch. > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > [ Attached Message ]From:Rosey > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > 05:53:04 -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 7:53 > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the nature of > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > Love? > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > Is affection healing? Can a person kiss and hug the > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > pain away? I > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > believe this tactic works. But for some it does not. > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > On May 4, 8:41 am, Molly Brogan > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > I think I understand and I do appreciate your > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > words here Vam. We all, > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > each of us, deserve to be surrounded by those > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > that love us > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > unconditionally, and allow us to be who we are as > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > we evolve and > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > awaken. The key for me has been to provide this > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > to those around me. I > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > have found that in doing so, I am surrounded by > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > folks who can love in > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > the same way. This does not mean that I allow > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > myself to be exploited > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > or abused, because I think that a part of > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > unconditional love is > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > bringing such behavior by the other to light, and > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > then moving away > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > from it, allowing the other to learn or not. > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > There are times when > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > compassion is enough and the relationship > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > becoming peripheral is in > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > perfect order. Your unconditional love then > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > includes honesty, > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > appreciation and psychological safety for all. > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > These can be provided > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > through deep intimacy or great distance. There is > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > a grace that leads > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > the way. > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > On May 4, 12:49 am, Vamadevananda > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > " Affection, in all forms, is an extremely > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > valuable and important part > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > of the relationship to me ... " > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > And Grace, both while giving to and receiving > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > from ... But, valuable > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > and important as they are, these are still the > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > atmospherics. The > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > crucial part is the quality of ' being ' > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > individuals sense within > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > themselves, and the opportunity they have to ' > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > be ' themselves, to > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > grow and evolve and continue to transform the ' > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > I - Space ' within to > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > greater sense of strength, happiness, freedom > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > and self - discovery. > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > We are all striving for that rich and pregnant > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > ground of ' I - space ' > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > in which our finitude dissolves. The others are > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > important to us, in > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > this context, for the atmospherics they cause > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > or contribute to. It can > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > aid or mar the ' awakening.' > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > We each love the other, for the love of our > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > Self ! > > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > ( I waited long before punching the ' Send ' > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > button, wondering if what > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > I'm posting makes any sense. Even, if it is > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > > appropriate ? ) > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
