Love can be a powerful source for murder in the mind of a psycho. peace & Love
On May 4, 7:02 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > ...and yet Love can be a powerful source for all these things. > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I would think the 'exploding in the arts' would be better classified > > as insight, inspiration or revelation rather than Love. > > > peace & Love > > > On May 4, 6:28 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes. It explodes in the arts. Have done the whole trip- painting, > >> music, needlearts, poetry, gardening, cooking, diplomas. It still > >> doesn't cure a lost heart. I am now a hermitess living in a grand > >> house. My children are scattered and I was a good mother to them. > >> Maybe that is Love. > > >> On May 4, 5:04 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Love is beauty and pain defined. But in order to experience the pain > >> > you must see its beauty. Which often happens unexpectedly. I wish I > >> > wasn't one of those people that think with their heart. What is the > >> > value of brilliance when the actions of your heart blind you from > >> > using it? When I think of love, it's a deep, deep, longing for > >> > passion. Perhaps a flight without a plane. Or a swim without water. > >> > Maybe even a delicacy tasted without swallowing. It's there but your > >> > wary from it, worried about losing it, careful but not capable of > >> > determining whether you keep it or not, as love does change. It gives > >> > one the ability to things they would never expect. > > >> > For example: I was able to play a tune on the piano, yet I don't play > >> > the piano. No, not expertly, I would post a link to it but would be > >> > worried about getting critiqued by experts. I am no expert and don't > >> > play the piano, never have, we bought a keyboard about two months ago, > >> > yet I managed a whole heart felt tune, I closed my eyes and let my > >> > fingers work their own magic. Do you think love gives one > >> > abilities? > > >> > On May 4, 5:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > I am one of you- though disappointed and resigned. I look back over my > >> > > life as a grief of love. Take my heart but spare me my money. The last > >> > > time I heard "jaded" was from my highschool sweetheart who I dated for > >> > > a year after he divorced from a 30 year marriage. He was still a jerk > >> > > and died soon after I left him. Stuff happens. > > >> > > On May 4, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Hmmm...I don't know, from what I hear, age is no barrier to love nor > >> > > > lust. ;) > > >> > > > Glad to have you aboard. Strong opening salvo, though! No soft spot > >> > > > at > >> > > > all for us romantics? > > >> > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > Thank you for Monday's laugh! One is allowed. Two would be > >> > > > > lethal.// I > >> > > > > wasn't sure this thought would get through but I would like to read > >> > > > > along in this group. I am a grandmother so somewhat protected from > >> > > > > foolish fancy even in the lusty month of May. I lust after William > >> > > > > Safire. :-) Anyway, thanks for the welcome.// > > >> > > > > On May 4, 10:35 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> Ah, the voice of the jaded. > > >> > > > >> Welcome, Rigsy. Care to tell us a story? > > >> > > > >> [ Attached Message ]From:rigsy03 <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds > >> > > > >> Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 06:16:08 > >> > > > >> -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 8:16 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: > >> > > > >> What is the nature of Love? > > >> > > > >> Love is a myth and marketing tool. > > >> > > > >> On May 4, 8:10 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Not always, but definitely at least sometimes. There is much > >> > > > >> > healing in a loving touch. > > >> > > > >> > [ Attached Message ]From:Rosey <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds > >> > > > >> > Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 > >> > > > >> > 05:53:04 -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 7:53 > >> > > > >> > amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the nature of Love? > > >> > > > >> > Is affection healing? Can a person kiss and hug the pain away? I > >> > > > >> > believe this tactic works. But for some it does not. > > >> > > > >> > On May 4, 8:41 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > I think I understand and I do appreciate your words here Vam. > >> > > > >> > > We all, > >> > > > >> > > each of us, deserve to be surrounded by those that love us > >> > > > >> > > unconditionally, and allow us to be who we are as we evolve > >> > > > >> > > and > >> > > > >> > > awaken. The key for me has been to provide this to those > >> > > > >> > > around me. I > >> > > > >> > > have found that in doing so, I am surrounded by folks who can > >> > > > >> > > love in > >> > > > >> > > the same way. This does not mean that I allow myself to be > >> > > > >> > > exploited > >> > > > >> > > or abused, because I think that a part of unconditional love > >> > > > >> > > is > >> > > > >> > > bringing such behavior by the other to light, and then moving > >> > > > >> > > away > >> > > > >> > > from it, allowing the other to learn or not. There are times > >> > > > >> > > when > >> > > > >> > > compassion is enough and the relationship becoming peripheral > >> > > > >> > > is in > >> > > > >> > > perfect order. Your unconditional love then includes honesty, > >> > > > >> > > appreciation and psychological safety for all. These can be > >> > > > >> > > provided > >> > > > >> > > through deep intimacy or great distance. There is a grace > >> > > > >> > > that leads > >> > > > >> > > the way. > > >> > > > >> > > On May 4, 12:49 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > " Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and > >> > > > >> > > > important part > >> > > > >> > > > of the relationship to me ... " > > >> > > > >> > > > And Grace, both while giving to and receiving from ... But, > >> > > > >> > > > valuable > >> > > > >> > > > and important as they are, these are still the > >> > > > >> > > > atmospherics. The > >> > > > >> > > > crucial part is the quality of ' being ' individuals sense > >> > > > >> > > > within > >> > > > >> > > > themselves, and the opportunity they have to ' be ' > >> > > > >> > > > themselves, to > >> > > > >> > > > grow and evolve and continue to transform the ' I - Space ' > >> > > > >> > > > within to > >> > > > >> > > > greater sense of strength, happiness, freedom and self - > >> > > > >> > > > discovery. > > >> > > > >> > > > We are all striving for that rich and pregnant ground of ' > >> > > > >> > > > I - space ' > >> > > > >> > > > in which our finitude dissolves. The others are important > >> > > > >> > > > to us, in > >> > > > >> > > > this context, for the atmospherics they cause or contribute > >> > > > >> > > > to. It can > >> > > > >> > > > aid or mar the ' awakening.' > > >> > > > >> > > > We each love the other, for the love of our Self ! > > >> > > > >> > > > ( I waited long before punching the ' Send ' button, > >> > > > >> > > > wondering if what > >> > > > >> > > > I'm posting makes any sense. Even, if it is appropriate ? ) > > >> > > > >> > > > On May 4, 7:57 am, Chris Jenkins > >> > > > >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > I think (a very necessary disclaimer in topics such as > >> > > > >> > > > > these) that the secret may be to only require commitment > >> > > > >> > > > > from your partner, to continue to freely be who you are, > >> > > > >> > > > > and expect the same from them, and to strive for the > >> > > > >> > > > > happy balance of compromise and acceptance in the places > >> > > > >> > > > > where friction inevitably occurs. Sometimes we align > >> > > > >> > > > > ourselves with partners who have drastically different > >> > > > >> > > > > life goals, and that's simply not possible. Other times > >> > > > >> > > > > our partners, or we ourselves, are in a self destructive > >> > > > >> > > > > place which is simply not conducive to a healthy > >> > > > >> > > > > relationship. If, however, we are both aligned similarly, > >> > > > >> > > > > and both committed to that goal, then a zen state of > >> > > > >> > > > > love, where it is not questioned, but simply is, seems to > >> > > > >> > > > > me to be the path to a long term bliss. > > >> > > > >> > > > > If everyday, despite the day I've had, I make the effort > >> > > > >> > > > > to express some portion of Eros energy to my partner, > >> > > > >> > > > > even if in no other form than text message, I've "been", > >> > > > >> > > > > in the zen sense, affirmed the love, made it be by being > >> > > > >> > > > > it. When that is affirmed in reply, that circle is > >> > > > >> > > > > completed. The actual physical expenditure of the ritual > >> > > > >> > > > > is miniscule, yet the effect is powerful. > > >> > > > >> > > > > Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and > >> > > > >> > > > > important part of the relationship to me, which Is just > >> > > > >> > > > > one of the many ides of Love I inherit from my Father. > >> > > > >> > > > > He's still married to my Mom, and from all appearances, > >> > > > >> > > > > still in love with her in an Eros kind of way. :-D It's a > >> > > > >> > > > > strong archetype to have in your head of what a long term > >> > > > >> > > > > love can be. I can't imagine the idea of my Father being > >> > > > >> > > > > unfaithful to my Mom. It's inconceivable to me. > > >> > > > >> > > > > It strikes me Neil that one of the problems with Love is > >> > > > >> > > > > that most of the wisdom about it doesn't come until our > >> > > > >> > > > > later years, and many of us either don't have a proper > >> > > > >> > > > > Sage around, or are a bit too damn fool hardy in our > >> > > > >> > > > > youths to listen if we do. > > >> > > > >> > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:archytas > >> > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > >> > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 3 May 2009 18:30:21 > >> > > > >> > > > > -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 6:30 amSubject:[Mind's > >> > > > >> > > > > Eye] Re: What is the nature of Love? > > >> > > > >> > > > > There is some thinking that love is over-stated and leads > >> > > > >> > > > > to over- > >> > > > >> > > > > expectation, perhaps rather strangely making loving > >> > > > >> > > > > relationship more > >> > > > >> > > > > difficult than it needs to be. Raising any of us fallible > >> > > > >> > > > > humans to a > >> > > > >> > > > > golden pedestal is to put whoever it is before a fall. > >> > > > >> > > > > One can > >> > > > >> > > > > certainly be loving and it appears this can be > >> > > > >> > > > > reciprocal, though I'd > >> > > > >> > > > > expect this to be less than perfect or bound in mutual > >> > > > >> > > > > illusions. > >> > > > >> > > > > Freedom from exploitation seems key to me, along with > >> > > > >> > > > > some form of > >> > > > >> > > > > understanding on equality. I can say that I wish I had > >> > > > >> > > > > been better > >> > > > >> > > > > able to enjoy sex earlier in my life through some decent > >> > > > >> > > > > education > >> > > > >> > > > > about it. > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 4 May, 01:07, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Exactly, trust is essential to the bond, it is the > >> > > > >> > > > > > adhesive quality > >> > > > >> > > > > > that transforms two into one. The > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
