Heh. My ex's mom was probably one of the strangest creatures I've ever met. Her first words to me when we met was "I like your balls". Of course she was drunk - I think. I'd never actually seen her sober so maybe it was her normal state.
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Well...there might be agreement about where a daughter/son-in-law > should be placed from the mom's point of view...or jail! But I'm not > one of them. > > Cities also saw the rise of division of labor rather than tribes > traipsing about after herds, i.e. the start of commerce. > > On May 12, 5:33 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Anybody who would relocate to be near his mother-in-law is probably > better > > off in an asylum somewhere... > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > They were nomads- yes- following herds and fertile vegetation but I > > > think they realized the "safety in numbers' as well as organized > > > protection that a city would afford. In a sense, man is still nomadic > > > and will move for a better paying job, climate, to be near his mother- > > > in-law, etc. :-) > > > > > On May 12, 12:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > I think the theory is that humans were once hunter/gatherers going > where > > > the > > > > food was. Once we discovered agriculture we began to settle into > villages > > > > that in turn grew. > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sometimes- it depends on the species (protection of the young). > There > > > > > is an urge to compete most likely based on survival that tries to > > > > > insure food, territory, protection from predators that varies and > is > > > > > most subtle in humans via language arts, etc. but the game's the > same. > > > > > Humans may have watched herds and decided to establish cities is > > > > > another thought. And yes, there are great benefits in cooperation > and > > > > > compromise but then we would have to get into a whole new arena. > > > > > > > On May 11, 8:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected] > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > That's true too. But, it seems that there is more cooperation > within > > > a > > > > > > species than across species. I wonder why that is? > > > > > > > > It seems to me like there is as much benefit in cooperation > between > > > > > species > > > > > > as there is within a species. > > > > > > > > I guess the answer would likely have something to do with > protecting > > > > > > offspring. > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > The same animals do not work together either. Check out the > mating > > > of > > > > > > > AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and female, > male > > > and > > > > > > > male, female and female, child to child human beings!!! > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work > together' > > > > > actually > > > > > > > > means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work > together is > > > > > that > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual > benefit > > > of > > > > > both. > > > > > > > > > > Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only that > most > > > > > don't. > > > > > > > > > > For instance; > > > > > > > > > > The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride along. > It > > > just > > > > > does > > > > > > > > because that is where the feeding grounds are. > > > > > > > > > > The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because the > hippo > > > > > actually > > > > > > > > gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to clean. > > > > > > > > > > Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them. > > > > > > > > > > Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is forewarned. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but there is a > > > > > difference > > > > > > > > between symbiotes and parasites. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no real > > > evidence > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > nether do you , although the answer is there to be > researched . > > > ( > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > essentialy " symbiotic " .... theres too much to be said , > > > suckers > > > > > > > > > feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off > > > hippopotamus > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work > together > > > , > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca ( shamoo ) , > > > every > > > > > > > > > scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless , vague > , > > > speck > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > what i mean to convay , oh well . > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck Bowling wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a > > > symbiotic > > > > > > > > > relationship. > > > > > > > > > > The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey sees > the > > > deer > > > > > run > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > being at about the same point in the food chain figures > that > > > it > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > run > > > > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman < > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a human > > > experience > > > > > . > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > point is that we shouldn't behave like carnivorous > beasts , > > > > > deer > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the deer > keep > > > a > > > > > look > > > > > > > > > > > out , monkeys pick nuts , > > > > > > > > > > > > > is language a good or poor indicator of intellect ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I think we are a part of the animal kingdom, > last > > > time > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > checked > > > > > > > > > > > > we were mammals in the sapien family. But I think the > > > > > mentality > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > herd is a natural behavior to social creatures, that > and > > > our > > > > > > > talented > > > > > > > > > > > > rhetoric for negative reinforcement of behaviors that > go > > > > > against > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > norm while the norm is reinforced with confirmation > bias. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > your statments contradict each other , besides we > are > > > not > > > > > > > animals , > > > > > > > > > > > > > well....... i can be a bit of an animal from time > to > > > time > > > > > but > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> How can you expect governance unless you can > control > > > the > > > > > > > > > population? > > > > > > > > > > > > >> What else is new? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Even a family needs order and control, doesn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Don't you observe the order of nature? The > routines of > > > the > > > > > > > natural > > > > > > > > > > > > >> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be eaten. > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman< > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> are most people really sheepole ? can i get a ya > or > > > nay- > > > > > Hide > > > > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
