Heh. My ex's mom was probably one of the strangest creatures I've ever
met. Her first words to me when we met was "I like your balls". Of
course she was drunk - I think. I'd never actually seen her sober so
maybe it was her normal state.
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well...there might be agreement about where a daughter/son-in-law
should be placed from the mom's point of view...or jail! But I'm not
one of them.
Cities also saw the rise of division of labor rather than tribes
traipsing about after herds, i.e. the start of commerce.
On May 12, 5:33 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
> Anybody who would relocate to be near his mother-in-law is
probably better
> off in an asylum somewhere...
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > They were nomads- yes- following herds and fertile vegetation
but I
> > think they realized the "safety in numbers' as well as organized
> > protection that a city would afford. In a sense, man is still
nomadic
> > and will move for a better paying job, climate, to be near his
mother-
> > in-law, etc. :-)
>
> > On May 12, 12:01 pm, Chuck Bowling
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > wrote:
> > > I think the theory is that humans were once hunter/gatherers
going where
> > the
> > > food was. Once we discovered agriculture we began to settle
into villages
> > > that in turn grew.
>
> > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > Sometimes- it depends on the species (protection of the
young). There
> > > > is an urge to compete most likely based on survival that
tries to
> > > > insure food, territory, protection from predators that
varies and is
> > > > most subtle in humans via language arts, etc. but the
game's the same.
> > > > Humans may have watched herds and decided to establish
cities is
> > > > another thought. And yes, there are great benefits in
cooperation and
> > > > compromise but then we would have to get into a whole new
arena.
>
> > > > On May 11, 8:01 pm, Chuck Bowling
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > That's true too. But, it seems that there is more
cooperation within
> > a
> > > > > species than across species. I wonder why that is?
>
> > > > > It seems to me like there is as much benefit in
cooperation between
> > > > species
> > > > > as there is within a species.
>
> > > > > I guess the answer would likely have something to do
with protecting
> > > > > offspring.
>
> > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, rigsy03
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > The same animals do not work together either. Check
out the mating
> > of
> > > > > > AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and
female, male
> > and
> > > > > > male, female and female, child to child human beings!!!
>
> > > > > > On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what
'work together'
> > > > actually
> > > > > > > means. What I mean when I say that animals don't
work together is
> > > > that
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > is no contract or agreement between them for the
mutual benefit
> > of
> > > > both.
>
> > > > > > > Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate.
Only that most
> > > > don't.
>
> > > > > > > For instance;
>
> > > > > > > The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride
along. It
> > just
> > > > does
> > > > > > > because that is where the feeding grounds are.
>
> > > > > > > The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship
because the hippo
> > > > actually
> > > > > > > gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to
clean.
>
> > > > > > > Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them.
>
> > > > > > > Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is
forewarned.
>
> > > > > > > I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but
there is a
> > > > difference
> > > > > > > between symbiotes and parasites.
>
> > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman <
> > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have
no real
> > evidence
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > nether do you , although the answer is there to be
researched .
> > (
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > essentialy " symbiotic " .... theres too much to
be said ,
> > suckers
> > > > > > > > feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off
> > hippopotamus
> > > > ,
> > > > > > > > diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do
work together
> > ,
> > > > man
> > > > > > > > and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca (
shamoo ) ,
> > every
> > > > > > > > scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a
hopeless , vague ,
> > speck
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > what i mean to convay , oh well .
>
> > > > > > > > Chuck Bowling wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a
> > symbiotic
> > > > > > > > relationship.
> > > > > > > > > The monkey and deer don't work together. The
monkey sees the
> > deer
> > > > run
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > being at about the same point in the food chain
figures that
> > it
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > too.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman <
> > > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a
human
> > experience
> > > > .
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > point is that we shouldn't behave like
carnivorous beasts ,
> > > > deer
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries ,
the deer keep
> > a
> > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > out , monkeys pick nuts ,
>
> > > > > > > > > > is language a good or poor indicator of
intellect ?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Ash wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, I think we are a part of the animal
kingdom, last
> > time
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > checked
> > > > > > > > > > > we were mammals in the sapien family. But I
think the
> > > > mentality
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > herd is a natural behavior to social
creatures, that and
> > our
> > > > > > talented
> > > > > > > > > > > rhetoric for negative reinforcement of
behaviors that go
> > > > against
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > norm while the norm is reinforced with
confirmation bias.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > your statments contradict each other ,
besides we are
> > not
> > > > > > animals ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > well....... i can be a bit of an animal
from time to
> > time
> > > > but
> > > > > > .....
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:02 pm,
rigsy03<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> How can you expect governance unless you
can control
> > the
> > > > > > > > population?
> > > > > > > > > > > >> What else is new? :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Even a family needs order and control,
doesn't it?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Don't you observe the order of nature?
The routines of
> > the
> > > > > > natural
> > > > > > > > > > > >> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be
eaten. :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman<
> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> are most people really sheepole ? can i
get a ya or
> > nay-
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