HUH? Ron, your making things up now. This is turning into your philosophy, not the MoQ. Good luck with it.
SA > [Ron] > I feel there is an area MOQ is overlooking by > concentration on value > alone. I feel perhaps Pirsig takes it to a > subjective tilt by positing > that value comes before subjects and objects and > subjects and objects > can be dropped or seperated from value. Subjects and > objects do not > cause value. Value does not cause subjects and > objects. They are one in > the same. > [Ron adds:] > By renaming value as dynamic quality and subjects > and objects as static > quality, Pirsig is placing > the separation between value and subjects and > objects, it solves the s/o > dilemma but creates a different > dichotomy, and if one is not careful you may fall > into another type of > dualism or worse yet a solopsism. > which by placing value before subjects and objects > does. Which then of > course projects the universe as > being a moral universe because now you are in the > realm of the > subjective without knowing it. Placing > our values before subjects and objects will reveal a > moral universe. > Pirsig takes the lens of SOM > and flips it so instead of a cold objective universe > you have a moral > universe full of meaning with > all the trappings of objectivism. > I say subject object and value are one. thoughts? > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
