> Ron:
> Using this quote as a starting point, I'm saying
that Dynamic Quality
> "the pre-intellectual cutting edge
>  of reality" because it can be recognized before one
> can think about it, is spacially subject/object
> relationally sensed, before it becomes
> conceptualized and recognized as forming patterns...


    Then how do you 'know' it is "spacially
subject/object"?


     [Ron]
> ...the focus being on the recognition of things
before
> one can think about it.


     Again, how do you 'know'/'recognize' "things
before one can think"?  This kind of loop, where
'know' is before 'know' is a trapping of SOM thinking
I believe.


     [Ron]
> Again my suspicion is that preintellectual
> recognition has s/o
> distinction and naturally leads to s/o
> intellection, simply on the merit that we sense the
> phenomenal world as
> objects in relation to ourselves
> before we even think about it.

     I disagree.  I really don't think about that and
I being separate.  I could if I wanted to, but my mind
is accepting these cricket sounds, they pass through
me, and I'm really not trying to define a this and
that, just a continual stream of events.

     [Ron]
> I have ducked objects thrown at me before
> I was aware of the whats
> whys and hows of any of it.

     I duck all the time to bad, disturbing, immoral,
and unvaluable thoughts, are those thoughts not mine?


     [Ron]
 This is my thrust.


     Thanks.  If anything at all, this is enjoyable.

sounds,
SA


       
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