dmb says: As I see it, here you're making some kind of mistake in logic and then projecting that mistake onto Pirsig. I mean, the charge of a "subjective tilt" defies Pirsig's central point in asserting a "pre-intellectual awareness". The most important characteristic of this "pure experience", as James calls it, is that it is prior to the distinction between self and world, between subject and object. It is also called an undivided experience because there are as yet no conceptual distinctions. Northrop's phrase fits for the same reason; the undifferentiated aesthetic continuum. And because this primary empirical reality lacks all divisions, we can't rightly call it subjective or objective. It is an experience which precedes that distinction.
[Ron] DMB, I think you even said so yourself that if one can not differentiate then it does not exist. How are we then conjuring experience from non existence? how then does SOM conjure perception from non-existence. How does a new born baby experience anything for it has no SOM preconceptions but babies get cold and hungry they smile and cry, they differentiate without SOM. just asking Thanks Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
