> [Platt] > You have a narrow definition of socialism. Basically, socialism is a system > that forces one person to care for another. The key word -- forces. > > [Krimel] > I use the definition from Wiki, and the dictionary and from government > classes taken in high school during the height of the cold war and other > class taken in college. > > I don't find your definition anywhere but in you posts. It seems a bit > narrow and targeted. Where did you get it?
I created it. > [Platt] > Are you saying multiculturism isn't being taught in government schools? > [Krimel] I don't know that's why I am asking you to provide examples. > [Platt] Are you suggesting that government schools aren't teaching that > government programs to "help" the poor are good?. [Krimel] I don't know > that's why I am asking you to provide examples. [Platt] Are you suggesting > multiculturism doesn't teach equality of cultures? [Krimel] I don't know > that's why I am asking you to provide examples. For starters, try: http://books.google.com/books?id=XCtG7O5EScgC > > [Krimel] > > I and many of my fellow Americans think that it bad. > > Do you? > > [Platt] > Absolutely. I assume you agree and are against Affirmative Action. > > [Krimel] > As one who Absolutely condemns racial discrimination, I assume you support > affirmative measures to end it. Correct? Not if they involve discrimination on the basis of race, like Affirmative Action programs. . > > [Platt] > > All of them. They have proposed taking away their profits which is > > tantamount to nationalization. > > > > [Krimel] > > So then it should be easy enough for you to tell me what they said and > > when. Please do. > > [Platt] > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g > > [Krimel] > Not much context there but it sounded like she was talking about record oil > profits in a time of war when Americans have seen the price of gas double. > She seemed to be saying we should take measures against war profiteers but I > didn't catch any mention of socialism. > > Are you in favor of war profiteering? Depends what you mean by "war profiteering." Government seizure of profits is tantamount to nationalizing. > [Platt] > My chart shows there has been no reduction in the poverty rate since 1970. > What's the problem? > > [Krimel] > And the amount spent of programs targeting poverty is tiny. Mission > accomplished! > What's the problem? You call $5 trillion tiny? And no improvement in the poverty rates is "mission accomplished?" You're kidding, right? > > [Krimel] > > You do not have to be remorseful to acknowledge that your government > > committed atrocities. Do you acknowledge that what was done was wrong? > > [Platt] > Sure. Do you acknowledge the benefits of modern civilization? > > [Krimel] > Sure. Are you claiming that genocide and slavery are the inevitable price > that must be paid for microwaves and plasma TV? No. But glad you see microwaves and plasma TVs as benefits, as well as many things you didn't mention like heart and kidney transplants. > [Platt] > Sure, but emphasizing the different context, especially the time frame. > > [Krimel] > So you would want to emphasize how these other countries continued to pay > the cost of modern civilization throughout the 20th century, right? No. I would want to emphasize that slavery was an accepted practice in most countries until recently, and it is was Western civilization that put an end to it except in a few places. Shall we discuss how government mandates about ethanol are causing food shortages and riots? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
