Hello everyone

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Ian Glendinning
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dan responded to Steve:
>
> [Dan] You (Steve) said: The question of free will versus determinism
> gets replaced
> by the question, to what extent do we follow DQ and to what extent do
> we follow sq?
>
> [Dan] It appears from reading this that these are two mutually exclusive
> options, hence my observation that they are not.
>
> Huh, Dan ? "to what extent" A and/or B suggests the exact opposite of
> mutual exclusivity. It correctly implies you generally have a mix of
> both side by side.

Hi Ian

It's the way Steve framed the statement that suggests we cannot follow
both static quality and Dynamic Quality at the same time. According to
the way I read that statement, we follow one OR the other to some
extent. It is entirely possible that I read it wrong, however.

>Ian:
> I don't in fact agree with Steve's underlying analogy between DQ/sq
> and Free-Will / Determinism, or DMB's suggestion that causation is
> part of one but not the other, .... causation is just weird and
> conventional linguistically .... I'm just pointing out the flaws in
> the style of argumentation that is happening - in the church of
> reason, as has been pointed out.

Dan:

So what do you suggest? If we don't have [the church of] reason, what
do we have?

Thank you,

Dan
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