Instead of a monster PCB footprint file with names that you can never match
to the footprint, how about a much improved PCB footprint wizard.

I spend quite a lot of time modifying the results of the Protel PCB
footprint wizard as it often asks for "stupid" dimensions that are not on
manufacturers data sheets. ie The Protel wizard asks for spacings at the
corner of a QFP where as data sheets usually give pad sizes and centre line

It could also ask about paste, solder, plating and tenting overrides as
well. It could also allow mixing on units when entering (mills and mm).

You get the idea.


Ian Middleton

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 26 July 2001 01:06
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone
> At 02:07 PM 7/25/01 -0400, Andrew J Jenkins wrote:
> >The problem, as I see it, with traffic in multiple locations is
> that it's
> >end result is fragmentation of the group and
> Meeting in committee is hardly "fragmentation." The records of the
> committee are open to the public and will remain so, and anyone
> who wishes
> to join the discussion may do so. Further, the committee will report back
> to this list and anyone who does not like its recommendations
> will be free
> to express it.
> I don't know that Mr. Jenkins is aware that I was elected chair of the
> Protel Users Association. I am the "owner" of record for the Protel-users
> yahoogroups lists, but I only hold those lists as trustee for the
> association; my decisions regarding them are subject to
> association review,
> and not only can I be overruled by the association, I *have* been
> overruled
> in one case.
> Every organization which has accomplished something significant
> has learned
> to divide and delegate responsibility. Not everyone wants to
> participate in
> every activity, and we are already bleeding subscribers to the Techserv
> list, people who unsubscribe simply because the volume of mail
> becomes too
> much. I spoke to a number of these at the last PC Design Conference West.
> (There is a list, protel-users-announcements, which is a *very*
> low traffic
> list, and I recommend that anyone who would like to receive association
> announcements without maintaining active list subscription(s) join that
> list. A piece of mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will
> accomplish it. It's a moderated list specifically to keep it from
> receiving
> traffic which is not association-sponsored.)
> I know that some of us, even some of those who have been active in
> association affairs (such as Mr. Wilson, who has done a great
> deal and who
> deserves our gratitude), dislike the proliferation of lists. Some
> organizations similar to ours have a single list, but have
> required subject
> headers, and people can set their subscription preferences to include or
> exclude particular subjects. That's another way of accomplishing
> a similar
> purpose.
> However, requiring that all users receive all mail is the same kind of
> error as was made by many cooperative organizations back in the
> seventies:
> everything was decided by the entire organization. Problem was,
> it was very
> difficult to get everyone to agree, and a single argumentative
> person could
> effectively prevent anything from being done. In the end, the
> organizations
> went according to the decisions of those who could afford the time to sit
> through long-winded plenary sessions. And, usually, after a few
> years, the
> organization was gone.
> I'd prefer to have an opt-out system, where everyone was
> subscribed to all
> the lists, and then could opt out of the ones not of interest to them. If
> Mr Jenkins had his way, it would seem, *we couldn't opt out.* Is this
> really what we want?
> Techserv has periodically popped in here to stop discussions it deemed
> off-topic. Originally, the yahoogroups lists were started for two reasons:
> (1) to provide a backup list for when the Techserv list was down, which
> happened too many times.
> (2) to provide a place or places to discuss or announce matters
> which were
> against Techserv policy, such as announcements regarding protel license
> resales (protel-users-resale) or miscellaneous discussion
> (protel-users-misc).
> If you want to talk fragmentation, it would be in the recent founding of
> the Open Forum by Techserv, which was a direct duplicate of
> protel-users-misc. *That's* fragmentation.
> Response to protel-users-library has been substantially greater than was
> the response to any other of the accessory lists. In less than
> one day, 17
> users have joined. There has been, as yet, no discussion on that list; I
> assume that it will start up when the energy being spent here quiets down.
> Yahoogroups lists have archives. The only reason that we have an archive
> for the Techserv list is that one was started on yahoogroups.
> (Protel-users-PEDA-archive). On the same day that this archive
> was opened,
> there was apparently activity attempting to start up an archive on the
> Techserv site. It was not completed.
> An archive ("minutes") is essential for a working committee. If
> the minutes
> of a committee are filled with material irrelevant to the purpose of the
> committee, they will be next to useless. That's why we need a separate
> list. It is for order, not for fragmentation. Discussion lists are great
> for asking questions of a broad audience and for discussion. They
> are *not*
> so great for making decisions.
> Abdulrahman Lomax
> P.O. Box 690
> El Verano, CA 95433

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