I'm really p*ssed at Protel now , since I've found out they HAVE support for the newer Atmel parts. It is free to download on the Atmel website, the problem is you have to figure out yourself what to do to install it in Protel (it comes with the goofy 30day trial PRotel schematic and PLD tool ) . There's no mention anywhere , at all, nada, that there are some updated libraries . Atmel doesn't even say this is Protel, all they have is "a free CPLD/CUPL/VHDL tool", you have to install it to see with your own eyes that it's Protel 99se sp6 trial. Then delete it (it's so dumb it just tells you it's installing PeakVHDL, then it's installing Protel 99se but no option to not install it if it's already there and just upgrade libraries) . Then figure out which of all that nonsense is what you really need . After wading through 100 megabytes, here it is, a 900kb library file dated 1998 , state of the art. In the meanwhile, Protel turned Altium promises upgrades, fixes and they don't even give you what they have since 4 years ago for free from Atmel . I hope I'm wrong but this is a case of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing or even worse, planned obsolescence or some marketing driven long term policy to compel users to upgrade . I don't have a problem creating my own schematic library symbols, PCB footprints but I DO have a problem that there are updated PLD libraries except you can only find them only (or mostly) by accident .
I'll avoid Protel like the plague for all programmable logic and use the free manufacturer tools.Sorry for the venting . Thanks, Matt Tudor, MSEE http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Stout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel PLD/CUPL Question > I'd go with WINCUPL and hope someday Protel adds support for > the ATF1504. > > But there is another path, grasshopper. Make Protel compile for > the Altera EPM7XXX (I don't remember the number at the moment), > then use Ateml's POF2JED utility. You'll need additional software > from Altera to make that work. Again, I'd go with WINCUPL. > > ********************* > ** My Tracking number #1 > ********************* > > Jeff Stout > > [snip] > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Matt Tudor , MSEE > > http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************ > * Tracking #: C30124403FE91142948F872814D72E2767AFA2D3 > * > ************************************************************************ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
