> Oh, and one more time: does anyone know of an altera listserver? I can't > get newsgroups until I wring out some stuff w/ my ISP (pacbell dsl).
Nope. But if your questions are Verilog, or, VHDL related, try these 2 news groups. There are a number of Altera users on both sites. I found them helpful for integrating & simulation code with Quartus.. comp.lang.verilog comp.lang.VHDL If you are having trouble with news group access, you can access the group through google groups with your web browser. Go here: (I have yet to receive junk mail after signing up at google groups, unlike yahoo, which overflowed my email box with hundreds of adds.) http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.verilog http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.vhdl Good luck. ____________ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike ingle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Anyone know of a Altera listserver? and Single/Dual CPU > Ok, > > So it seems that the consensus here is that twin CPU machines are > desireable. > I am in a quandry because the goal here truly is to maximize productivity. > > So, what influences my productivity? > > Right now I am in a max plus II design cycle where I am waiting on compiles > for up to 10 min. watching 99% CPU usage assigned to max2win. > > It seems that the fastest possible solution to the single problem of compile > time is: > > fasted possible CPU. > highest possible memory bandwidth. > > Since the problem is only going to run on a single processor (current > software rev anyway) is it not true that the compile time will be minimized > in a single CPU configuration (MAX speed...) Of note the single CPU 2.53ghz > boards w/ pc1066 rambus memory seem to be the fastest CPU/memory bandwidth > configuration available. > > I have 3 other computers including my old 1ghz athalon available. So, I can > check my e-mail... on the other machines while waiting. > > I currently don't use the auto-router (high speed mixed > analog/digital/ecl...), although there may be a reason to in the future > (like if the new autorouter from PROTEL is worth beans. > > I can live with the single processor limits on Max plus II. (OS slow as > molassis during compiles) > I can live with one processor using PROTEL (no autorouter), although an OS > available during sims would be nice;) > > Any seasoned guesses out there on performance increase > (compiles/autorouting/sim) from 1Ghz athalon 100Mhz fsb to: > > 1. Dual Athalon MP2000+ 1gb 266Mhz DDR. (around $2500) > > 2. 2.53 Ghz P4 533mhz fsb 1gb pc1066 rambus. ( around $2500 > > 3. dual xeon 2.4 400mhz fsb 1gb pc800 rambus. (over $5k) > > By the way in no way do I disagree with the 2 processor vs 1 processor for > overall usability, but the SOLE justification right now for the new machine > is a productivity increase on compiles. We all know though that there will > of course be later requirements. > > Oh, and one more time: does anyone know of an altera listserver? I can't > get newsgroups until I wring out some stuff w/ my ISP (pacbell dsl). > > Thanks again, > > Mike > > > > ************************************************************************ > * Tracking #: FD5D6646A251974798B62B497F11CE74E237106C > * > ************************************************************************ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
