Rob,
I can't agree with you more. It is almost as if they are looking for new
users rather trying to keep us experienced people around. If they want to
chase me off DXP is a really good start. I'm here in conservative New
England and it has been difficult enough getting people off of PADS. If I
stay with a Protel Product this bew DXP version may be just another
detriment to the effort.
Joe


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time?


> Ian,
> > 7) Dialogs are not as easily navigated as in P99SE - they may look nicer
> > but I find it harder to find the editable elements.
> I am in complete agreement with you on the dialogs.  I forgot to add that
to
> my list of issues with DXP.  I find it much easier to find relevant
> attributes in a well organized list like P99SE has, not with them all
> haphazardly placed among "glitz" and "glamour".  These new dialogs may
help
> the new user, but once you are proficient with Protel, I think it tends to
> slow the user down.
> Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time?
>
>
> > At 02:48 AM 5/09/02 +0100, you wrote:
> > ><..snip..>
> > >As the title said Cruch time - do I spend any more time looking at the
> DXP
> > >demo and upcoming SP1 re-learning how to use it or do I spend my time
> > >looking at other packages?
> > >
> > >What do you guys think?
> >
> > My feelings are very mixed.  I have not tried all of the features and
have
> > not done much after the beta program finished.  I am waiting for the
first
> > service pack before I see what has changed since the beta.  So when I
say
> > what I like or dislike it may be that I have not tried your favorite
> > feature or tested your favorite(!) bug.
> >
> > Likes:
> > 1) query language and reltaed to that the much more powerful design
rules
> > 2) Sim post processing is improved
> > 3) New ERC options
> > 4) Integrated libraries should help configuration control
> >
> > Dislikes:
> > 1) speed
> > 2) globals are slower and some things very much harder to work out how
to
> > do (but see Likes point 1).
> > 3) Router is very disappointing - I was hoping for a break through here.
> > 4) No SDK released (yet)
> > 5) I think the spreadsheet view should *not* be on the same panel as the
> > filter.
> > 6) ATS
> > 7) Dialogs are not as easily navigated as in P99SE - they may look nicer
> > but I find it harder to find the editable elements.
> > 8) Greater reliance on mouse compared to P99SE - this affects
productivity
> > 9) loss of Selected vs Focussed feature in P99SE and no provision for a
> > workable replacement (simply making the system more like other Windows
> apps
> > is a retrograde step IMO)
> >
> > There are others but these are the major ones I can think of just now.
> >
> > As an indicator - I have started a few new designs in the last week or
> > so.  All of these are being done in P99SE.  I have a rather "down"
feeling
> > about it.  Lots to like but ATS really makes the equation more complex
> than
> > it used to be.
> >
> > I will re-evaluate after SP1.
> >
> > Ian Wilson
> >
> >
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