I feel that ATS has and will further damage the adoption of DXP even more
than the software bugs.  While I would not be happy if I paid for the DXP
upgrade and couldn't use the software for some time, I would be assured that
it would eventually be fixed free of charge.  That is no longer the case
with the new policy.  So I will not have DXP running until it is fixed and
therefore will not be able to contribute to any further bug reports.  I
think Altium should provide bug fixes free of charge outside of ATS and
perhaps only provide new features and direct tech support with ATS.  If the
new features are worthwhile, it might prompt someone to activate ATS.  I am
also not too happy with paying such a high ATS cost knowing it is supporting
other modules that I will never use.

I have recently heard a rumor from a source at Protel (only a rumor at this
point) that a penalty might be assessed to those who don't keep their ATS up
to date.  It seems that even people at Altium are unsure of what the future
of ATS is.  I will have to visit the Altium website soon and see if there is
any information posted with regards to the ATS policy.  My current
understanding has been that ATS is not mandatory, but without it, you will
not get any bug fixes after a year from the initial upgrade.  Perhaps
someone in the know on this list could further clarify to avoid any
confusion on what will happen if ATS is not kept up to date.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time?

> I personally have a hunch that they will address all these complaints
> very quickly. They overall spin of DXP has been so bad, I think it's
> scary from their point of view and if it were me running the show I'd be
> listening very closely to this group.
> I see lots of great ideas in DXP mixed with several areas of poor
> implementation. I think a lot of the complaints here are generated
> because DXP was released too early. If they had waited until SP1 or SP2
> (whatever changes and fixes those will bring) I think the initial
> comments would have been much more positive.
> Altium has the ability to make pretty big changes quickly. (as seen in
> recent times by many of us) Maybe their new development environment will
> allow them to address these complaints far faster than previously seen
> with P99SE.
> As far as Tsien's s/w: It looked to me like you could only lease it on
> an annual basis. Yes, it's cheap at roughly $400/year, but if you stop
> paying, does the dongle (which I HATE) timeout? Probably. No thanks.
> Also, the support is almost void and the support page was last updated
> over three years ago. Not a good sign.
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