> I'm glad to hear someone has had good luck with ASUS.  Some time ago I
went
> through several ASUS 400MHz CUSL2 motherboards, different CPUs, different
> brands of memory, different power supplies, and everything else to try to
> stop random crashes.  It wasn't just with Protel either.  I finally ended
> up slowing the memory bus down to 100MHz even though everything was spec'd
> at 133.    I'll never touch ASUS again.  I was using Win2K.

That was the problem with my Asus dual 1GHz PIII.  To fix it, I had to set
in the bios, add 1.5ns on the SDRAM latch.

DDR ram provides an output latch clock which the motherboard chipset times
itself to getting rid of these old type problems.

_____________
Brian Guralnick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...


> I'm glad to hear someone has had good luck with ASUS.  Some time ago I
went
> through several ASUS 400MHz CUSL2 motherboards, different CPUs, different
> brands of memory, different power supplies, and everything else to try to
> stop random crashes.  It wasn't just with Protel either.  I finally ended
> up slowing the memory bus down to 100MHz even though everything was spec'd
> at 133.    I'll never touch ASUS again.  I was using Win2K.
>
> Has anyone had any problems with Protel with Intel motherboards?  I've
> heard their not barnburners but are extremely stable.
>
> At 03:19 PM 3/10/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >     I do believe the stability of my new system is that all the
peripherals,
> >24 bit/96KHz sound, USB, 1394, Ethernet, SATA raid controller, ATA raid
> >controller are all on the motherboard & the video card was also made by
Asus
> >ensuring a trouble free 8X AGP functionality.  It even more stable than
my
> >old Dual PIII 1 GHz.  Also, the 2 X 120 Gbyte Western Digital HDs read &
> >write at over 100 Megabytes / second on a continuous basis.
> >
> >     I'm sure if I added 1 card to the PCI bus, the boot time would
probably
> >double.
> >
> >     Additional, I have successfully over clocked this motherboard to 4.1
> >GHz, though, I don't think it's worth the potential headaches.
> >
> >_____________
> >Brian Guralnick
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...
> >
> >
> > > I'm only using a 300 watt power supply and it takes my XP box 25
seconds
> >to
> > > boot.
> > > (that's a joke!)
> > >
> > > Seriously though, don't install a bunch of crap on that PC or else the
> >boot
> > > time will grow horribly. (And it may not shut down properly...sort of
like
> > > this WinXP box.)
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:45 PM
> > > > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1
> > > > month now...
> > > >
> > > > 2 other things,
> > > >
> > > > It completely boots right to the XP password prompt in under
> > > > 5 seconds. (I didn't think that was possible...) I'm using a
> > > > 450 watt power supply.
> > > >
> > > > _____________
> > > > Brian Guralnick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brian Guralnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month
now...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > New PC (tested now for 1 month):
> > > > >
> > > > > Mobo: ASUS P4P800 Deluxe,
> > > > >  On board stuff:
> > > > >   3.6 GHz Intel CPU.
> > > > >   2GB DDR sdram in dual channel mode.
> > > > >   AD1985 - on board sound card, v3630 drivers.
> > > > >   Intel 82801ER Serial ATA raid controller with 2 x 120GB
> > > > SATA WD hds.
> > > > >   3Com gigabit LOM (3C940)
> > > > >   Firewire port
> > > > >   8 USB 2.0 ports
> > > > >   Parallel Port
> > > > >   Serial Port
> > > > >
> > > > > Video AGP:  ASUS V9520/TD - GeForce FX5200 (not the best
> > > > card for extreme
> > > > > high end 3D,
> > > > >  but, the 8X agp makes Protel 99se fly.)
> > > > >  Drivers - Nvidia direct - 53.03.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Current bugs: -sharpness settings mess up after an APPLY.
> > > > >    -custom color overlay settings are erased when you
> > > > >    swap, or enable / disable the opposite monitor output.
> > > > >    -monitor output #2's sync gets disrupted when you right
> > > > >    click on the NVidia control panel icon.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OS: WinXP Pro.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have yet to see Protel crash, or, Altera's QuartusII 3.1
> > > > web edition.
> > > > In
> > > > > fact, the only crash I've seen yet was in Internet Explorer
> > > > on some lousy
> > > > > Java code...
> > > > >
> > > > > _____________
> > > > > Brian Guralnick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Ray Mitchell
> Engineer, Code 2732
> SPAWAR Systems Center
> San Diego, CA. 92152
> (619)553-5344
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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