My tests were with Protel99SE, SP6, WinXP-Pro. --------------------------------------------------------- Autoroute Board#1, using defaults, 25 seconds. Autoroute Board#3, using defaults, 5 min, 20 seconds. ---------------------------------------------------------
It looks like Protel's autorouter is more memory & FSB bus speed intensive than CPU core speed intensive. My FSB/memory speed is 800 MHz. Even if I put in a 1.8 GHz CPU, the autoroute times would probably be the about the same. I guess only those who use the above 1.2GHz FSB probably will see some realistic improvement. _____________ Brian Guralnick ----- Original Message ----- From: "John A. Ross [RSDTV]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter speed, (was New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...) > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:04 PM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] Autorouter speed, (was New PC tested with > > Protel for at least 1 month now...) > > > > Just tried out the autorouter, the example autorouter 'board > > 1' routed in 29 seconds. > > Brian > > Was that in 99SE, using standard Board1.ddb file with defaults for router? > > I did something similar a month or two ago, I just found the following from > my notes. > I did this initially to see if the productivity benefit was there for the > investment in a new PC. > But it also opened my eyes to Situs (not that I use it anyway). > > Enviroment 1 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dell 8200, single PIV 2.0GHz, XP ProSp1, 756mB RIMM, Matrox G550 > Outlook 2003/IE6 and DXP open & Running > Board1.ddb, Board 1, accept all defaults. > > 99SE > ---- > Routing completion 100%, > Connections routed 286, > Connections remaining 0, > Elapsed Routing Time : 0:0:31 > > DXP SP2 > ------- > All I have here for now is SP2 > Board 1 (99SE version), imported to DXP, accept all defaults. > Routing completion 100%, > Connections routed 286, > Connections remaining 0, > Elapsed Routing Time : 0:04:26 > > Board 1 (DXP version), > Routing completion 100%, > Connections routed 286, > Connections remaining 0, > Elapsed Routing Time : 0:06:03 > > Enviroment 2 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Proliant ML350G3, Dual Xeon 2.8Ghz, 4gB ECC DDR, SCSI Raid 5 plus one drive > for cache, Matrox G550, Serverworks MoBo > W2K3 server, MS Exchange, ISA and Sharepoint all running, > usually with 11-15 clients attached (plus PC from production floor) > Management logs show none of the CPUS were stressed and memory usage only > peaked at 68% > Board1.ddb, Board 1, accept all defaults. > > 99SE > ---- > Routing completion 100%, > Connections routed 286, > Connections remaining 0, > Elapsed Routing Time : 0:0:25 > > DXP > ---- > All I have here for now is SP2 > Board 1 (99SE version), imported to DXP, accept all defaults. > Routing completion 100%, > Connections routed 286, > Connections remaining 0, > Elapsed Routing Time : 0:3:59 > > Board 1 (DXP version), > Routing completion 100%, > Connections routed 286, > Connections remaining 0, > Elapsed Routing Time : 0:06:35 > > I guess a similar exercise with other routers. > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Guralnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 > > month now... > > > > > > > > I'm glad to hear someone has had good luck with ASUS. > > Some time ago I > > > went > > > > through several ASUS 400MHz CUSL2 motherboards, different CPUs, > > different > > > > brands of memory, different power supplies, and > > everything else to try > > to > > > > stop random crashes. It wasn't just with Protel either. > > I finally > > ended > > > > up slowing the memory bus down to 100MHz even though > > everything was > > spec'd > > > > at 133. I'll never touch ASUS again. I was using Win2K. > > > > > > That was the problem with my Asus dual 1GHz PIII. To fix > > it, I had to set > > > in the bios, add 1.5ns on the SDRAM latch. > > > > > > DDR ram provides an output latch clock which the > > motherboard chipset times > > > itself to getting rid of these old type problems. > > > > > > _____________ > > > Brian Guralnick > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ray Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:36 PM > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least > > 1 month now... > > > > > > > > > > I'm glad to hear someone has had good luck with ASUS. > > Some time ago I > > > went > > > > through several ASUS 400MHz CUSL2 motherboards, different CPUs, > > different > > > > brands of memory, different power supplies, and > > everything else to try > > to > > > > stop random crashes. It wasn't just with Protel either. > > I finally > > ended > > > > up slowing the memory bus down to 100MHz even though > > everything was > > spec'd > > > > at 133. I'll never touch ASUS again. I was using Win2K. > > > > > > > > Has anyone had any problems with Protel with Intel > > motherboards? I've > > > > heard their not barnburners but are extremely stable. > > > > > > > > At 03:19 PM 3/10/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > I do believe the stability of my new system is that all the > > > peripherals, > > > > >24 bit/96KHz sound, USB, 1394, Ethernet, SATA raid > > controller, ATA raid > > > > >controller are all on the motherboard & the video card > > was also made by > > > Asus > > > > >ensuring a trouble free 8X AGP functionality. It even > > more stable than > > > my > > > > >old Dual PIII 1 GHz. Also, the 2 X 120 Gbyte Western > > Digital HDs read > > & > > > > >write at over 100 Megabytes / second on a continuous basis. > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure if I added 1 card to the PCI bus, the boot > > time would > > > probably > > > > >double. > > > > > > > > > > Additional, I have successfully over clocked this > > motherboard to > > 4.1 > > > > >GHz, though, I don't think it's worth the potential headaches. > > > > > > > > > >_____________ > > > > >Brian Guralnick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:37 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at > > least 1 month > > now... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm only using a 300 watt power supply and it takes > > my XP box 25 > > > seconds > > > > >to > > > > > > boot. > > > > > > (that's a joke!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously though, don't install a bunch of crap on > > that PC or else > > the > > > > >boot > > > > > > time will grow horribly. (And it may not shut down > > properly...sort > > of > > > like > > > > > > this WinXP box.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:45 PM > > > > > > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 > > > > > > > month now... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 other things, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It completely boots right to the XP password prompt in under > > > > > > > 5 seconds. (I didn't think that was possible...) I'm using a > > > > > > > 450 watt power supply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________ > > > > > > > Brian Guralnick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Brian Guralnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:31 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at > > least 1 month > > > now... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New PC (tested now for 1 month): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobo: ASUS P4P800 Deluxe, > > > > > > > > On board stuff: > > > > > > > > 3.6 GHz Intel CPU. > > > > > > > > 2GB DDR sdram in dual channel mode. > > > > > > > > AD1985 - on board sound card, v3630 drivers. > > > > > > > > Intel 82801ER Serial ATA raid controller with 2 x 120GB > > > > > > > SATA WD hds. > > > > > > > > 3Com gigabit LOM (3C940) > > > > > > > > Firewire port > > > > > > > > 8 USB 2.0 ports > > > > > > > > Parallel Port > > > > > > > > Serial Port > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Video AGP: ASUS V9520/TD - GeForce FX5200 (not the best > > > > > > > card for extreme > > > > > > > > high end 3D, > > > > > > > > but, the 8X agp makes Protel 99se fly.) > > > > > > > > Drivers - Nvidia direct - 53.03. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Current bugs: -sharpness settings mess up after an APPLY. > > > > > > > > -custom color overlay settings are erased when you > > > > > > > > swap, or enable / disable the opposite monitor output. > > > > > > > > -monitor output #2's sync gets disrupted when you right > > > > > > > > click on the NVidia control panel icon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OS: WinXP Pro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have yet to see Protel crash, or, Altera's QuartusII 3.1 > > > > > > > web edition. > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > fact, the only crash I've seen yet was in > > Internet Explorer > > > > > > > on some lousy > > > > > > > > Java code... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________ > > > > > > > > Brian Guralnick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray Mitchell > > > > Engineer, Code 2732 > > > > SPAWAR Systems Center > > > > San Diego, CA. 92152 > > > > (619)553-5344 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
