anyway, there are lots of very interesting projects, not yet packaged at Debian (maybe as not from pure:dyne), would be great having packagers for them - there are very promising projects, with some risk of abandoning, mostly because newbies are not that comfortable with make/configure procedures:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Wishlist i were spending some hours on searching projects and updating this list, which i hope can be helpful also to pure:dyne another question: how possible and/or interesting would be a cooperation between Pure:Dyne and UbuntuStudio, since both seems to be based on Debian? On 3/23/09, Paulo Silva <[email protected]> wrote: > MilkyTracker is not that good as ModPlugTracker - it misses > import/export to .midi files (very important when using other > composing tools together, like from Rosegarden, Cubase, etc.), has no > clipboard support for copying/pasting to other applications (like > Gedit), and can't import/export to .txt files (this feature i found > only from VortexTracker, i think) > > On 3/23/09, Paulo Silva <[email protected]> wrote: >> well, i had problems with sound output from ModPlugTracker on wine... >> - no sound at all... >> >> On 3/22/09, Karsten Gebbert <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Aymeric Mansoux said : >>>> Paulo Silva said : >>>> > There are some ms-windows open-source tools very missing on Linux, >>>> > such as ModPlugTracker and VirtualDub - i'm saying these two examples >>>> > because there's no .mod editor as good as ModPlugTracker on Linux (i >>>> > tried all trackers from the Debian repository, and no one is that >>>> > good), >>>> >>>> Milkytracker is an excellent tracker. The version in pure:dyne has JACK >>>> support working (the one in Debian had a bug with JACK, not sure >>>> if they fixed that...) >>>> >>> >>> I tried MPTracker running in wine once, it worked quite good too! In >>> general I agree though, its sad that there is no port of it for >>> gnu/linux >>> >>>> >>>> > and VirtualDub is a very simple and complete video editor very >>>> > missing on Linux as well (some people used to cite AviDemux, but >>>> > there >>>> > are no comparisons possible) - on answers from both developers, they >>>> > said there would be very difficult to port these two projects to >>>> > Linux >>>> > because they were deeply dependant on MS-Windows API, but i really >>>> > doubt on it, since i believe all can be simply replaced with GTK, >>>> > wxWidgets, QT, or any other libraries available... i'm not that >>>> > skilled to point what can be replaced with what, but i believe it is >>>> > really possible! =) >>>> > >>>> > On 3/23/09, Paulo Silva <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > taking a look at some work done may have on you better ideas on >>>> > > what >>>> > > is missing on open-source tools - this example is a kind of work >>>> > > you >>>> > > can do on AfterEffects, and i think you still can't on Jahshaka: >>>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fucBh5FZGU >>>> > > >>>> > > On 3/23/09, Paulo Silva <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >> yes, there are lots of very promising open-source applications >>>> > >> still >>>> > >> lacking deeply on features - for example, just take a look at >>>> > >> Jahshaka >>>> > >> and Synfig, and compare them with AfterEffects and Flash editor, >>>> > >> and >>>> > >> you realize how needed of features they are... - and if you think >>>> > >> some >>>> > >> existing open-source projects are needed to be another new >>>> > >> projects, >>>> > >> you can fork them, just like Inkscape were forked from Sodipodi, >>>> > >> and >>>> > >> CinePaint from Gimp - and considering Jahshaka and Synfig are >>>> > >> open-source, you can make them much more useful, flexible and >>>> > >> professionally-targeted than their proprietary similars - for >>>> > >> example, >>>> > >> just take a look the Adobe Flash editor crashes when importing >>>> > >> more >>>> > >> than 1000 frames of vector files sequence (like .ai), and with >>>> > >> swf-tools you can create a .swf with 16000 frames easily... >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On 3/23/09, Aymeric Mansoux <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>> Hi Mikko, >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Mikko Eley said : >>>> > >>>> So I am canvassing this mailing list for possible software >>>> > >>>> projects. >>>> > >>>> What would you like to see in pure:dyne, does anyone have a >>>> > >>>> specific >>>> > >>>> need for a piece of arts software that an average computer >>>> > >>>> science >>>> > >>>> student could code up in two terms? I familiar with Java but may >>>> > >>>> still >>>> > >>>> get into c/c++. Is there a software program that desperately >>>> > >>>> needs >>>> > >>>> coding, a utility that would make currently available software >>>> > >>>> work >>>> > >>>> better? Or is their an add on that would be needed to be coded >>>> > >>>> that >>>> > >>>> would provide a much needed function? >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> I think you can have two different approaches for investing your >>>> > >>> time: >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> - There are already a lot of very good FLOSS that provide >>>> > >>> artistic >>>> > >>> environments to produce all kind of media works. From quite >>>> > >>> popular >>>> > >>> software such as inkscape to more "niche" software like fluxus, >>>> > >>> there is >>>> > >>> a whole range of projects and communities that will welcome any >>>> > >>> effort >>>> > >>> you can offer. Check the project's mailing list, see if there is >>>> > >>> a >>>> > >>> roadmap, TODO or any traces left from the authors explaining what >>>> > >>> could >>>> > >>> be implemented next and you could offer your help on this side. >>>> > >>> So >>>> > >>> in >>>> > >>> the end it's just a matter of picking up one of these software >>>> > >>> and >>>> > >>> help >>>> > >>> develop it. (if on small projects a lot is done via ad-hoc >>>> > >>> exchanges, >>>> > >>> bigger projects might already have a guideline on how people can >>>> > >>> help >>>> > >>> and how they should submit patches or propose new features...) >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> - In that regard, pure:dyne is not different and if you want to >>>> > >>> contribute to the live distribution, you can check on the >>>> > >>> ticket >>>> > >>> tracker and see that there are quite some tasks pending. Most of >>>> > >>> them >>>> > >>> are related to packaging and scripting. The only task I can think >>>> > >>> of >>>> > >>> that would involve some utility tools that we miss badly, would >>>> > >>> be >>>> > >>> an >>>> > >>> xfce4 control panel for pure:dyne, to configure various parts of >>>> > >>> the >>>> > >>> live distro, for example a GUI to create USB keys, create >>>> > >>> different >>>> > >>> persistent modes, etc... If it had to be done, we would prefer >>>> > >>> that >>>> > >>> python and GTK is used though. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> No matter what you decide to do, this is a very nice way to >>>> > >>> invest >>>> > >>> your time and energy, and you will probably get more from this >>>> > >>> experience than working on an isolated project. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Of course, you could also just make your own software art as a >>>> > >>> project >>>> > >>> ;) >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> a. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> I'm hoping to be able to contribute something valuable not only >>>> > >>>> to >>>> > >>>> the >>>> > >>>> open source community but to artists working with linux. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> thank you for your time, >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Mikko >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> --- >>>> > >>>> [email protected] >>>> > >>>> irc.goto10.org #pure:dyne >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> --- >>>> > >>> [email protected] >>>> > >>> irc.goto10.org #pure:dyne >>>> > >>> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > --- >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > irc.goto10.org #pure:dyne >>>> > >>>> >>>> --- >>>> [email protected] >>>> irc.goto10.org #pure:dyne >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- http://krgn.goto10.org >>> >> > --- [email protected] irc.goto10.org #pure:dyne
