One question-do you drop off your son at Rangers or do you stay and help? In my opinion if you stay and help than you are a concerned parent, if you return home then you don't have much input into what may happen. Think about it. Bob Simons
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > We try to discourage boys from leaving the meetings. However, these are > > BOYS. Allowing them to wet themselves is humiliating and inexcusable, not > > to mention the rash you inflicting on them. Don't bother trying to coerce > > me. It won't work. Having a son with a paralyzed colon makes me INCREDIBLY > > biased on this issue. Meaning if my son were not allowed to leave the room > > and he had a BM in his pants, I would remove him instantly from that > > commander's care. No questions asked. Then I would go straight to a > > meeting with the Senior Commander and the Pastor. There is no reason for > > such behavior. None what so ever. Ever heard of the Buddy System? > > > > Sorry if I come on strong, but I have been dealing with this issue for 11 > > years. Every time I do my son's laundry I am reminded of my son's condition > > and I pray over it cause I know how much it hurts and shames him. You don't > > know if there is a similar situation with the any one of your boys. Not all > > parents talk about it because your child will beg you not too. > > > > Cmdr. Kelly > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:35 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy.. > > > > > > It might be wet shoes this time and no life preserver the next. I had 2 boys > > think that life preservers weren't necessary and cumbersome. I made them get > > out and walk halfway around the lake to get back to camp. They were mad at > > me but I don't want dead bodies on my outings. > > I do know of a man who died from coral poisioning from not wearing shoes > > while walking on coral. You never know! > > Sure its extreme thinking but disobedience has to start and stop somewhere. > > I think that his grandfather had some wisdom at least more than some kid. > > Thats where respect comes in. My Dad taught me respect when I said something > > that was disrespectful. I hope that I can teach my boys the same thing but > > that seems to be a hard job because of what a lot of adults are preaching. > > "Question Authority" is unscriptural. Its black & white to me -not even > > grey. The only possible exception would be what we already talked about > > concerning the gospel, a higher authority. > > My true story about my own son is just one example of disobedience that > > could have been deadly. I'm not one of those who believes in avoiding any > > kind of fun because it might be dangerous but I also think good judgement > > can save an outing from going bad. > > > > I had an incident in Rangers where a boy wet himself because he wasn't > > allowed to leave the room and he didn't go at the beginning when everyone > > else did. The Dad was irate at the incident but my question was to him "Why > > weren't you in there helping the commander so that someone could have stayed > > in the room with the rest of the boys." He said he was busy...too busy to be > > there when his son needed him..I guess. > > The Commander was running it all alone. > > Passing the blame is all to common place, these days. > > Bob Simons > > > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, > > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give > > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > I would rather bruise a boys backside than have to explain why their son is > > dead. I'm sure you all know what I mean if you think for a minute of the > > many > > dangers on a campout. I have seen kids disobey and had some close calls > > including my own sons. A coffin doesn't give you a second chance to do what > > God tells you to do. OBEY. I have some devotions about this very > > thing-anyone want to hear one? Bob Simons > > > > > > > > I didn't realize that not putting on wet shoes would kill a boy. > > > > Let's hear the devotion. > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > - JENKENS & GILCHRIST E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - > > This transmission may be: (1) subject to the Attorney-Client Privilege, (2) > > an attorney work product, or (3) strictly confidential. If you are not the > > intended recipient of this message, you may not disclose, print, copy or > > disseminate this information. 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