In a message dated Tue, 2 Oct 2001 2:06:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ken Komoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > At 12:23 AM 10/2/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 10/1/2001 > 4:23:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It is not a child's place to question before obedience. If a car is rushing at a >child > and I yell at him to get out of the street, > and he has been trained to ask why, the question will kill him. He MUST be willing >to obey instantly and completely. > > He shouldn't have been in the street in the first place - why didn't you teach him >that? And why would you stand there and just yell at your child to move - wouldn't >you go after him? > > This response is a complete red herring. Whether or not I taught him to stay out of >the street is not the issue. Neither is the question of whether I would go after him. >Of course I would. But this response attacks the questioner and does not address the >issue at hand... > The response attacked no one. This is exactly the issue - obedience. If you expect the child to obey instantly why wouldn't the child's overall obedience be an issue? Is it ok for the child to disobey and play in the street but not ok to disobey a yelled command? SNIP > Certainly they can and do. But you are not seriously >equating a child's status with an adult status are >you? Where did this almight status come from? > Parenthood or guardianship of children was never >meant to be a democracy. We teach, guide, instruct, >mentor, care for and love kids from an elevated >status. You forgot command. We are not elevated above our children - please prove otherwise if you can. The only one elevated is Christ. >Please note that I have never said an adult is better >than a child. I simply say that they are not and >should not be an equal to an adult. Equality allows >them an undeserved right to question your authority. Why? My boss and I are equals but I regularly question her reasons and motives. I did in the military also. What matters is the manner the questioning is done in. Michael _______ To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
