Mike,

In our case, it is not a question of financial resources or equipment -- we
have what we need of both.  It is more the latter, where the boys are off
doing something else.

Kelvin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark W Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@juno.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [RR] *Shut down for summer.. *Anyone?


> It is kind of interesting, I have made some friends because of this topic.
> I didn't understand why people would shut down for the summer either when
> summer was the most active time for Rangers. I had went from a monster
sized
> outpost (3rd largest in the Section) (over 75 boys) to a tiny outpost with
> just 5 boys. Then I understood completely why someone would shut down for
> the summer. In a small outpost, you just do not have the resources
available
> whether it's the Commanders, the boys or the finances because everyone
else,
> including Commanders are all taking their vacations during these times. It
> is very difficult to manage resources when there just are not any to
manage.
> The larger outpost was able to handle it a lot easier because there were
> just a lot more boys and not all of them would go on vacation. Likely 1/2
of
> them would stay home and play with their playstations or something else
non
> productive. That was when going to the pow-wows were a lot easier but with
> the 5 boys, we had to negotiate, we had to pull teeth, we had to come up
> with the money to go to things like that because the church didn't have
it,
> and neither did the boys or their parents. It wasn't a matter of whether
we
> kept on going for Jesus or not. We just didn't have the resources and
there
> was no point in running ourselves into the ground when the boys were just
> not available. Rangers was always competing too in the summer with not
just
> youth Group, but sports as well. It wasn't about MY wants  on whether the
> outpost was open for the summer or not, it was about the boys' wants and
the
> direction of pastor. I had wanted the boys to make a decsion on where
their
> priorities were and what they valued most.   Rangers was unfortunately not
> that high on their list. (at the time I was very highly against the
> distraction called pokemon) (still am too.) God blessed the boys and they
> were all back in the fall.
>
> Iron Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark W Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [RR] *Shut down for summer.. *Anyone?
>
>
> > We don't' shut down.  We keep on Keeping on for Jesus.  I like you don't
> > understand shutting down.  Summer months are ideal for camping and day
> > outings after church.  Nothing better than a old fashion great weather
> > campout.
> >
> > Mark Jones
> > p.s.
> > We had a Pow Wow Work night tonight.  Building a 24 foot 8' tall rock
> > climbing wall which will double as our fasiod entryway.  Things go up
> > fast when you have 15 working at it.  Pow Wow 9 days and counting.
> > Also making bolo ties out of plaster. Made a latex mold with our outpost
> > numbers on it.  I just finished the second coat of rubberized latex on
> > the for 3 other molds. Will make 4 bolos in one pour now.  Two or three
a
> > night and vola!  1st attempt at this.  They look ok..a little big grin!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 May 2002 14:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Star'Eyed Drifter
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > I was talking with Cdr.Jen about RR's as we often do<g>
> > >
> > > It sent me on a day dream to a place between "what could
> > > have been" and what was..
> > >
> > > I had dreamed that Royal Rangers was a "outdoor all weather
> > > adventure"
> > > and that the Dad's of my church would flock to go camping, NAW..
> > >
> > > Summer in the Pacific Northwest is about the only time period
> > > that resembles camping weather, so it was befuddleing that early
> > > on.. The church would shut RR down for the summer.
> > >
> > > *On reflection.. if RR's is about "ministry" then Ministry
> > > oversight
> > > should have a say in the churches *program..  I didn't see that
> > > back
> > > then and said so.. causeing stress, discord and straining
> > > relationships
> > > that needed to be stronger..
> > >
> > > "What could have been" ...never happened
> > >
> > > You guys shut down.. or do you go into relax mode class "B"?
> > >
> > > Drifter-
> > >
> > >
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