When it comes down to it, God's Word is definate. The Ranger manual isn't. Outpost meetings don't always work by the Ranger manual in the direction it perscribes. God's Word on the other hand, does providing it is being followed. If this is what works for you and your outpost then you should do it. If it doesn't work then you should discuss it, plan it, and approach it in a different way. What works for one won't always work for the other. No point in arguing over it. Learn from the diversity, but don't make it adversity. What works for Ed in New England, might not necessarily work for Mike in Texas, but it doesn't say that it is wrong, just uniquely different. or vice versa and as an example. Be Blessed Iron Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Commander Pier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Vic Kifer (34)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [RR] *Shut down for summer.. *Anyone?
> The decision to shut down was unanimous. The Buckaroo commander needed a > break last year, I told him to take it, then Pastor prevailed upon him to > baby-sit his kids. I'm not sure what you mean by "core" and "key man" as I > sense a facetious tone. We have 3 LTC trained commander, a helper in SA/B > (they're combined), and a new leader for Pioneers who started 4 weeks ago. > Myself and my compadre - Vic - are the core of the outpost. If there is an > activity to be planned (campouts, ranger day, etc.) or something needs done > in the Ranger room, Vic and I do it. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. > At one time, we had two commander for each age group - SA to Trail Rangers; > however, they gradually moved off into other directions, some moved away. > > I sense you're about to make a point, and I'd appreciate hearing it. > > Kelvin > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Star'Eyed Drifter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Commander Pier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [RR] *Shut down for summer.. *Anyone? > > > > > > Wow.. *Classic.. > > > > You have become the center of the outpost, the core, the key man.. > > and everyone can do what ever they want, but you carry the torch. > > > > True or False? > > > > -Drifter > > > > > > > > --- Commander Pier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For 3 years we shut down for the summer. We never had a problem getting > > > the > > > boys back. Then for 4 consecutive years, we went through the summer. > > > Our > > > numbers drop in the summer due to baseball, family vacations, etc. In > > > fact, > > > last year the SA/B had 2 boys - both pastor's kids. The Pioneers > > > averaged 3 > > > boys a meeting, and it wasn't the same three boys. It was impossible to > > > have any continuity. Besides, I need a break. It has been at this 4 > > > years > > > without a break. I've been in it for 8 years now. If there were > > > sufficient > > > leadership. we could take turns taking a break. If I stay at it and > > > burn > > > out, what good is that? > > > > > > We will do advancements on Wednesday; however, the boy has to be ready > > > to > > > present it. Also, we'll make some FCF-type sliding chairs. > > > > > > Kelvin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ken Komoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:05 PM > > > Subject: Re: [RR] *Shut down for summer.. *Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > I know of several outposts that shut down during the summer. Some are > > > > now permanently shut down. I never understood the philosophy of > > > shutting > > > > down. In one case, the Pastor's wife simply decided that the Rangers > > > > should take a vacation simply because 'that's what the Missionettes > > > are > > > doing.' > > > > In another, the Ranger commanders decided that they had been at it all > > > year > > > > and 'needed a break.' Our Pow-Wow is during the summer. Several > > > other > > > Ranger > > > > events occur during the summer. Why would you stop meeting and remove > > > one > > > > sure way of communicating to your boys? Besides, the loss of momentum > > > is > > > so > > > > difficult to overcome when September rolls around. > > > > > > > > At 02:52 PM 5/28/2002 -0700, Star'Eyed Drifter wrote: > > > > >Summer in the Pacific Northwest is about the only time period > > > > >that resembles camping weather, so it was befuddleing that early > > > > >on.. The church would shut RR down for the summer. > > > > ><snip> > > > > >You guys shut down.. or do you go into relax mode class "B"? > > > > > > > > > >Drifter- > > > > > > _______ > > > Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. > > > > > > Please pray for your list sponsor: http://eBible.org/mpj/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > > > http://rangernet.org > > > > > > ===== > > *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. > > --------------********+********-------------------- > > Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, > > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, > > and both in the .....cause! > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > _______ > Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. > > Please pray for your list sponsor: http://eBible.org/mpj/ > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > http://rangernet.org > _______ Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. Please pray for your list sponsor: http://eBible.org/mpj/ To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org
