What I sometimes uses and works almost every time is when the boys get to
the point of where they are unruly and boisterious, I let them know that if
they don't quiet down and pay attention then they forfeit their game time.
I let them know that we have an agenda and need to accomplish that agenda.
If they goof off to the point that we do not accomplish our agenda, then
they, and I let them know that it was them, not me, have sacrificed game
time. This works almost every time, but initially, follow through is
probably necessary.
Andy Cottle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/24/99 04:12:08 PM
To: Mark W Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Robert D Hamilton/Page Digital)
Subject: Re: [RR] Starting on time
I read the recent response from Mark Jones about discipline in the outpost
meetings. The original message was a little long, so I didn't include in
my response. I've been guilty of having boys do push-ups (not for being
late), but only in certain circumstances (and not too often). For
instance, I make sure I know the boys before any form of "discipline" is
dished out. If I don't know for sure that the young man is capable of
doing a couple of push-ups, I won't ask him to - it would just humiliate
him, and that's not the goal. The reason I put "discipline" in quotes
above is because I don't think the boys look at it that way. In fact, it
almost seems like something of a game - I always have one or two other boys
offer to do them, too. What it accomplishes is to settle the young man
down - get his attention and get him quiet. That's usually the objective
in the first place.
I've also had groups of boys who seem to have too much energy run the ball
field (when we're outside). without fail, others want to do it, too!
Again, it does seem to get their attention and calm them down somewhat.
They don't see it (at least I don't think they do) as humiliating - they're
usually laughing when they get back.
As the LTC says, good group control is based on commander/boy love and
respect. I guess it all centers around knowing, loving, and respecting
your boys. If you don't KNOW that it's appropriate, don't do it.
What do other folks do as "discipline"? What helps you get their attention
and get them calmed down when they need it?
Andy Cottle
Phenix City, Alabama
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