One cubic yard contains 27 cubic feet, thus would cover 27 square feet one
foot deepor 324 square feet one inch deep (27 x 12)
So fourteen cubic yards would cover, to a depth of one inch, (14 x 324) or
3240 + 1296 =4536 sq ft or about one tenth of an acre
Frank Teuton---still thinks
http://www.omri.org/sludge.pdf
http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/wmi/PDFS/Caseforcaution.pdf
And see various references at:
http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/wmi/
Frank Teuton
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From: "Wayne and Sharon McEachern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bio-Dynamic Li
in chicken feed to increase
appetite and improve growth rates.
Frank Teuton
- Original Message -
From: "Will Brinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: mean spirited
>
>
> Where is this case of
ganisms in the extract
and a higher effectiveness of the extracts.
****
Sounds a bit more like Elaine than Will to me...
Best,
Frank Teuton
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From: "Merla Barberie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:18 AM
ee:
http://www.caf.wvu.edu/~forage/fescue_endophtye/Story.htm
Compost tea is good stuff for many applications, but it isn't 'holy water'
that can cure all ills...as far as I know...;-)
Frank Teuton
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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <
ng is
safe and well founded, and look for the reasons underlying different
opinions being offered to you. If at all possible look for data that has
been published somewhere when seeking to choose between conflicting
opinions. And, when in doubt, try it out, and see what works best for you.
'T
nd Food Project.
http://www.capital.net/~farmfood/
Frank Teuton
tuff.
And, don't inhale excess dust if you can help it. Of any kind.
Frank Teuton
;t be done, then perhaps the rest of the world is right to
dismiss Steiner along with Thun as mere perpetrators of myth.
As far as losing a job because of one's expressed views, here's a tale to
impress anyone:
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id118.htm
I am sorry Allan had a bad experience in the job market. But, to cave in to
fear is not really the answer.
I hope his foot is feeling better,
Frank Teuton
ng it secret, what the heck are you thinking?
So, self edit, delete any posts their authors want deleted, and carry on. Or
not. Just don't pretend to be courageous if you don't.
My two cents,
Frank Teuton--hopes he didn't make anyone 'uncomfortable'
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From: "Frank Teuton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SANET-MG] Compost Tea and Organics
> Dear Dr Benbrook:
>
work, now the question is, what
are the other quiet voices in the compost science NOSB community saying, and
why are they saying it?
It should not be like pulling teeth to find out.
And be sure, Lloyd, that if I buy produce grown with compost tea, I will
want a good close look at their practices
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From: Vicki Bess
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: E-Coli
Hello,
Thanks
for the inquiry, sorry your name was not attached so that I could address you
personally. I apologize for the delay in response but I have be
haps other
species." (13 ) The specific routes by which 0157 arrives on a farm are not
known although birds, deer, other wild animals and livestock brought in from
other farms are suspected (14). Ruminants appear to be the primary
reservoir. "
>
> Thanks,
>
> Merla
You're welcome,
Frank Teuton
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From: "Chuck Benbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:23 AM
Subject: [SANET-MG] Compost Tea and Organics
> I have learned much from the ongoing dialogue re compost and
compost
> tea safety and thank the techn
all, than it would be for other
sorts of composting. A few such people in an area could provide 'tea quality
compost' to many other people, and share costs that way very reasonably.
I think there are solutions in this area that don't require that we gird our
loins, demonize those who disagree, and head off to war, in dubious battle.
Gotta not give in to the zeitgeist, eh?
In times of war, prepare for peace, I say...
Frank Teuton
Elaine herself.
Pretending it doesn't exist is not the answer.
Frank Teuton
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From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd
of all this is very far from being settled. I find it remarkable
how easily the BD crowd dismisses their own compost scientist's viewpoint
and research on this subject.
It may be time to take a closer look at this, and be a bit more rigorous and
skeptical.
Frank Teuton---true, he doesn't
en the potential risks.
Somehow, "Oh well" and "Shrug" seem to me unacceptable as a response to this
possibility.
Frank Teuton
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From: "Frank Teuton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Re: NOSB & Compost Tea
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kirk Leonard" <[EMA
oli, thus
allowing growth to take place when suitable nutrients are added in a compost
tea situation.
Dr Ingham herself accepts as reasonable the suggestion that compost for tea
applications on fresh produce within 120 days of harvest be tested and
certified E. coli free.
I think she knows that not all 'composts' will qualify.
Frank Teuton
uld request the
selenomethionine analysis of each lot to ensure that the effective
nutritional form of selenium is present. "
Note that it is the FDA which has approved the organic form of selenium as
an animal feed supplement, not the NOP, as far as I know...
Frank Teuton
- Origina
e Walt tells us, critters have been living and dying
out there for lo, these many years.and here we all still are, eh?
Frank Teuton
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From: "Stacey Elin Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:53 AM
erials to men, and accepts such leavings from them
at last
Frank Teuton---thinking he will continue to run the 'beau risque' of living
with the animals on earth, rather than kill them all out of fear, fear of
this or that misunderstood disease (Mad Cow, West Nile virus, etc...)
tters decompose, but need some extra attention to avoid problems.
Frank Teuton
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From: "Stacey Elin Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Cats in compost
> The reason I found it
www.oregonbd.org
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From: "Patti Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Religion?
>
> Dave Robison wrote:
>
> The religion thing is difficult to convey without much more interaction.
>
> Let me sugge
n land that could use two inches of rain a week, water is
de rigeur, which means we gotta have it.
Frank Teuton---humbly acknowledging that humus needs humidity...
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:45 AM
S
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/airwaste/wm/recycle/Tea/tea1.htm
Another set of instructions. It is also well worth while to buy Elaine's
Compost Tea Manual, www.soilfoodweb.com
http://www.weblife.org/humanure/default.html
eearth.org/atnetwork/atsourcebook/chapters/agtools.htm#The%20Ha
ndcart%20Handbook
Frank Teuton---has carted about a few cubic yards of compost and stuff
- comes out at 199.98 us
> gallon - still no way this is gonna fit in any wheel barrow that I ever
saw
> > LCharles
>
>
Hi Lloyd,
I think you meant 202 gallons, not 220. That'd be 40.5 buckets, or about
40
Frank---still standing at 40 buckets, although (white buckets) still need to
be measured to know 'zactly how much stuff they hold
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From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
the density.
See:
http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/2001-January/002407.html
3/4 of a ton is 1500 pounds, but 3/4 of a tonne (metric tonne, 2200 pounds)
is a hefty 1650 pounds.
Anyway, Allan, weigh a bucket of it and multiply by 40.;-)
Frank Teuton
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One cubic yard is 27 cubic feet, not 4-6 cubic feet. Three feet high, three
feet wide, three feet long, that's a cubic yard.
One cubic foot is about 7.5 gallons, or 1.5 of Allan's 5 gallon buckets.
1.5 x 27 is about 40.
Frank Teuton---he's over 40, and has done a few calculati
n the particular end use for the
compost.
Frank Teuton---a big fan of chips as mulch, compost and vermicompost
ingredients, or as a sheet treatment for soils
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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday,
More on the particle film technology and the team of scientists who are
working on midwifing it:
http://afrsweb.usda.gov/mglenn.htm
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From: "A. Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 1904 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kaolin spray
> W
h will help
you put together your case.
Best regards,
Frank Teuton---currently heavily into the tea scene
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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: RoundUp provokes cell di
I think what Steve is getting at, is that this post violated copyright.
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From: "Steve Diver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Soil Fertility and Biodiversity in Organic Farming
> Moen Creek, this pos
Organic Grower, in case anyone would like more
thoughts on this subject.
Frank Teuton
Micah wrote:
"Cordelia,
Good luck with your clay soil! Regarding the peat, one thing that a lot of
people are not aware of is that the peat industry is causing huge
destruction to bogs all over the wo
Dear NOSB members and those interested in compost teas:
I have been informed in the last few days that the process of making
amplified aerobic microbial cultures starting with high quality compost,
aerated water and nutrients to create a high bacteria and fungal count
product useful in horticultu
>
> >Help me here, a serious question 'caue I'm no zoologist: are elephants
> >ruminants? Cud chewing bliss beasts filled with beneficial
> >micro-organisms? -Allan
Hind gut fermenters like horses, say the books.
Dung ho!
>
mounds on brush bases that fully break down
over about a four year period.
Human creativity has many possible answers!
Frank Teuton
mp, stomp, stomp, some more green
rye, stomp, stomp, stomp, a bit of manure falls in, plop, plop, plop-get
it? :-)
Frank Teuton---has recently been reminded of the power of hooves, from
Belgian horses to sheep, and even birds can scratch up compostables a
bityou might call it 'macro-
with city water though because of the chlorine
thing.
16-1 is a pretty high dilution rate for most tea things I
could think of, but on a small scale might be just the way to make a little tea
go a long way.
My tuppence,
Frank Teuton
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From:
Lloyd
ne's tea thang? Obviously she thinks he is off
base, eh?
Look forward to hearing the dialog between these thinkers
Frank Teuton
x27; on air delivery, water movement and filtration
of the end product.
When I know more, I will get back to you.
Frank Teuton
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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: vor
es, and what
exactly is a 'good aquarium pump' for 200-400 gallons of teamaking?
Thanks in advance,
Frank Teutonhas the 25 gallon sprayer from Agri-Fab set up with my pal
Stefan's Microbial Tea Tower of Power Sprayer boom, a 13 foot high ten
nozzle creation that bows down t
Check out this, then:
http://www.aquaticeco.com/aquatic1v1/itm_pdf_tech/air_lift.htm
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: First Tea Analysis Results
>
> In a message dated 4/30/02 10:56:08 AM, [EMAIL
Here is a useful website for finding air pumps, diffusers, etc, and some
info:
www.aquaticeco.com
latively small scale equipment in the 10- 50
gallon range should be available at about the cost of the aeration equipment
plus container.
With a 100 gallon system from the big boys going for as much as $4000 US,
the economies of figuring this out on a DIY basis seem substantial.
Some bubblings
Bt explained in more depth:
http://www.eap.mcgill.ca/MagRack/JPR/JPR_22.htm
Bt is Bacillus thuringiensis, the subvarieties include
kurstaki, israelensis, and san diego, which control lepidopterans, mosquitos and
blackflies, and beetles respectively.
Frank---has an entemologist friend who
hipped wood, and other such uses of clean organic matter in the field can
also give ye olde og matter a boost.
I am not saying never use animal manure, just that other ingredients can
also bring up organic matter levels, and probably should be used along with
animal manure for a nice diverse smorgasbord for the foodweb.
My two cents,
Frank Teuton
Google hits on plant root exudates:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~tgraham/exud_tbl.htm
http://www.biotech-info.net/fate_effects.html
http://www.ls.huji.ac.il/~nurit/photosyn/Nitrogen/Rhizobium-legumeassociatio
n.htm
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From: "Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To
there are plenty out there who just push the chemicals, eh?
Still, remember to be diplomatic
Frank Teuton
> Question: Does anybody have references to peer-reviewed scientific
academic
>
> literature which shows that microbes unlock "locked" minerals and
nutrients?
>
&
red and loathed possibility to be
avoided. Certainly, in turf management the goal is a 'vigorous stand of
grass' that resists weed invasion, and this principle can also apply in
different botanical settings as well.
Hope that helps a bit,
Frank Teuton
>
> As for the weed pepper
;t the issue you were
addressing in your essay, but it seems relevant to the whole issue of
compost quality. On a related note, have you had occasion to look at
the following research:
http://www.sbf.ulaval.ca/brf/regenerating_soils_98.html This
idea also has a pull for me, harking back to those hardwood forest floors
of my youth All the best, Your friend, Frank
Teuton
the goats will still
> > thrive until they have ate every bush and shrub to the bare roots - have
> > seen this in the Australian bush a number of times with ferals - its not
> the
> > goats fault - they are the most amazing critters to rejuvenate degraded
> > range land when they are controlled
t is hard to say what exactly was the sequence of
events.
Certainly human stupidity, rather than something inherently unsustainable
about grassland pastoral systems, is more to blame here.
Pave paradise, put up a parking lot. Wo duh!
Frank Teuton
soils.
http://www.sbf.ulaval.ca/brf/regenerating_soils_98.html
Part of the method includes inoculating the wood chip mulch with forest
floor duff.
I am unclear on just what balance between arboreal and pastoral needs to be
struck in our planet paradise paradigm. But I do not buy the simplistic
notion that grazing leads, willy nilly, to desertification.
How 'bout them turnips at Storch's, eh?
Frank Teutondances with paradigms
udio if
you can put them up there. A written transcript might be more cyber-wieldy,
though.
Frank Teuton
>
> Sounds like a good question to pose to Elaine, among others.
Here's some of your local talent:
http://sudan.cses.vt.edu/html/csesres.html#nuwq
Might could be useful to make inquiries there, eh?
Frank
> Frank, et al,
>
> - Most cattle feeds are supplemented with copper to the point that
> are considered to be dangerous to sheep (sheep apparently cannot
> eliminate cooper appropriately and it eventually becomes toxic in
> their systems). Does this added copper interfere with the
> decompositio
would hesitate to use them unless I knew the soil really needed
copper.
Frank Teuton
lks :
I checked with Lee Valley Tools, and apparently they don't carry the
copper-button Hoe anymore. I've requested info on their old stock. I
remember it more as a large copper rivet whose
Nuke the insects from hyperspace, eh?
Sure do hope the ETs will come and save me soonmercy mercy me, things
ain't what they used to be
I like insects. Lovely lightning bugses, pretty papillons, hongry ground
beetles, they are all part of the Great Feeding Web. Eradiaticating them is
a gr
Try this one:
http://www.implementations.co.uk/
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From: "Aurora Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: "Sharp" Sand for potting mix
> Tony:
>
> Rambler writes: <>
>
> How _do_ you get those worms to pee in a cup for you?
Usually, when I have asked what p
I know the REAL biocultivator had a little copper rivet attached to it.
Gardena has a similar tool with apparently some sort of copper plating,
looks like much higher dosing with copper.
I view this way of adding copper to soil with some skepticism. How do you
know the soil needs copper? What are
>
> My understanding was that for trees it is preferred that fungi were
> predominant, for grasses bacteria is the preferred predominant. For
> veggies and flowers, and the like, I thought it was about 50% fungi and
> 50% bacteria.
>
> Did I misunderstand?
Hi Bonnie,
Yes it is more complicated
d any
problems.:-)
Best part of the presentation was when someone put their nose into my
milkcrate that had quasi-finished vermicompost and its makers in it. "It
smells like spring," she said happily.
Spring, and springtails.
Life is good.
Frank Teuton
> Hey, Frank -
>
> What
"Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated"---Samuel Clemens, aka
Mark Twain
>What was dead was the input of those who say
> bd is dead, ergo they must be the dead ones.
Is it just possible that some people could be mistaken rather than flat-out,
undertaker beetle daid? Or even have alte
Are we all in the same canoe?
What was it Sojourner Truth said?
"If you draw a small circle that excludes me, I will draw a bigger circle
that includes you."
Frank
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject:
feelings in these contexts, but it is important to
keep some sort of perspective.
By and large, war sucks.
Frank Teuton
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From: "jsherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Demeter
nformation
superhighway.
Frank Teuton---he doesn't 'get' radionics, but finds it entertaining to
'hear' people speaking through their computers about the evils of
instrumentation/machines---we all have our little blind spots, now don't we?
;->
- Original Message
Gil also said 'arson' when he meant to say 'arsenal', we should be fired up
about that, too, eh?
;-)
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From: "jsherry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: Radionics (Drought update)
> Gotta go, but I want
I fired this one off to Elaine just the other day, this list would be a good
place for her to answer, I expect...
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From: "Frank Teuton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
alify as new age hits,
python boots or no python boots.
On the other hand, naming your daughter 'Moon Unit' seems a touch more New
Agey somehow
One thing about Al Gore, he did write a preface to Our Stolen Future,
www.ourstolenfuture.org.
Frank Teuton---reminding everyone to not
See also:
http://www.livingmachines.com/htm/home.htm
> Not BD and at a slight tangent but interesting all the same:
> http://www.ratical.org/LifeWeb/Articles/rushes.html.
>
> To quote a little:
> "At eighty-two, Dr. Kaethe Seidel, head of the former Limnology
> Group of the Max Planck Instit
uybackers want is, I am sad to have to
say, nothing more than a stupidity tax.
Sorry to speak so frankly, but I really despise the buybackers and the
influence they have had on vermiculture. Don't promulgate this sort of
operation!
Frank Teuton
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From: "Ste
A fed bear is a dead bear."
All this tech, because you don't know how to properly bespeak the bear deva,
eh?
Frank Teuton
Here it is, Essie:
"Pressure does
not seem to be a big factor. If the organisms survivegetting pulled
off the compost, and living in the brewer, they aregoing to survive the
pressure in any sprayer. We have seen that theorganisms can be shot
quite happily out of a sprayer at 600 psi. It
Allan,
In keeping with your anti-hydrolic bias, please don't mention anything on
this list that has to do with aquatic systems, whether fresh, salt or
brackish, eh?
No mention of moose, duckweed, Azolla, watercress, or heaven forfend, evil
seaweed should be made, because of their quasi-hydroponi
question, right?
Best regards,
Frank Teuton
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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:18 PM
Subject: Soil Foodweb Questions?
> Hey, Friends!
>
> I'm very excited to ann
Allan squirmed:
>
> I guess I'm uncomfortable with the words 'biodynamic' and
> 'manipulated' so close together in a sentence.
Most people dislike the word 'manipulated' and like the word 'handled'. I
think it has something to do with Guillaume the Conquerer, and the
imposition of French by the
Hi Allan,
Check out:
http://www.townsqr.com/snsaqua/page2.htm
Found at
http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/aquaponic.html#speraneo
and see also
http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/aquaponic.html
That would start you out with an organic, hydroponic system working in
tandem with fish rearing, that pres
Let's be smart enough, though, to actually find her website:
www.soilfoodweb.com not .org
Frank
- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:18 PM
Subject: Soil Foodweb Questions?
> Hey, Friends!
>
> I'm
ust not a
possibility.
So what do you suggest?
Frank Teuton---noting that to err is human, to moo, bovine.:-)
Hi Allan,
To be less tied down, Gene Logsdon has written some stuff about how the calf
and you share the milking chores, allowing you some freedom you wouldn't
have if it was you in 'white slavery' twice a day
No experience meself.
I wonder about Barbara's word 'altruistic' below, I can see
rator. This sort of flexible approach seems much more sensible to me than
determined adherence to the 'closed farm organism' paradigm, or the 'pile of
mammal manure only' concept.
Stepping down off my high pile of horse manure,
Frank Teuton
I
> understand it in no
to the letter. Whether cosmic force
depletion, helminthic, bacterial, viral or other microbial pathogens, or
just the good old Deuteronomy 23:13 rules, this stuff has to be taken care
of properly.
Maintain the purity of thy camp!
Frank Teuton---has dealt with this sort of crap before.
Right place, Liz, we are just in a hatatonic daze right now...
Frank---has been known to wear different hats on occasion
> >I'm with you Tony, all depends on the day. I am new to this, and joined
for
> Biodynamic info, am I in the right place?
> Liz in oz
>
My own hat of choice is a Merganser canvas job, which Tilley made a knock
off ofmine has an Appalachian Trail badge that went on when the wife
and mother in law went on a sewing spree
Washing instructions: "Any river or creek will do!"
Joyeux Noel!
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From: "G
son manual screening trials.
Don't be siftless, and do use those woodchips, the
fungi are among the best bioremediators and humic substance
producers...
Frank Teuton
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