Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Apr 2013, at 18:44, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the planet Uranus? There is not a scrap of evidence indicating the existence of such a teapot nor is there anything proving its nonexiste

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-21 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > Original Buddhism and Hindu Sankhya are atheistic religions. > No, originally they were atheistic philosophies without dogma; their main concern was how to be happy not how the universe worked. But unfortunately they've changed. John K

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-21 Thread Richard Ruquist
Original Buddhism and Hindu Sankhya are atheistic religions. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, John Clark wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-21 Thread meekerdb
On 4/21/2013 1:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, John Clark > wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> wrote: >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the planet

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-21 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the planet >>> Uranus? There is not a scrap of evidence indicating the existence of such a >>> teapot nor is there anything proving

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> do you believe there is a small china teapot in orbit around the planet >> Uranus? There is not a scrap of evidence indicating the existence of such a >> teapot nor is there anything proving its nonexistence, so are you a teapot >> atheist or a teapot

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Apr 2013, at 23:05, meekerdb wrote: On 4/20/2013 12:16 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Then a majority of atheist believes in Matter. That has been introduced as an hypothesis by Aristotle (although he appears to be unclear in some passage), I don't know why you keep attributing the beli

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread meekerdb
On 4/20/2013 12:16 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Then a majority of atheist believes in Matter. That has been introduced as an hypothesis by Aristotle (although he appears to be unclear in some passage), I don't know why you keep attributing the belief in matter to Aristotle? First, belief in ma

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Apr 2013, at 19:12, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that ta

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would >> have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But >> for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. " >> > > > That's a very nice quot

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread meekerdb
On 4/20/2013 1:55 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Agnosticism IMHO is another belief that is genuinely modern, with Atheism. Both are escapes from reality. The atheist denies God not for God itself, but for what implies a creation and an order. In denying God, the atheist is denying the current ord

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread meekerdb
On 4/20/2013 1:34 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: That is absolutely wrong, and it is a religious statement of a devote atheist According with the "traditional" Doxatic definition of religion, Weinberg is a non religious person that say that the Russian, chinesse Marxists, for example, were all p

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Agnosticism IMHO is another belief that is genuinely modern, with Atheism. Both are escapes from reality. The atheist denies God not for God itself, but for what implies a creation and an order. In denying God, the atheist is denying the current order of things. It is absurd to spend time denying s

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
That is absolutely wrong, and it is a religious statement of a devote atheist According with the "traditional" Doxatic definition of religion, Weinberg is a non religious person that say that the Russian, chinesse Marxists, for example, were all people born perverse by nature, suppossedly by mean

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Apr 2013, at 20:36, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: Citeren John Clark : On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Roger Clough wrote:\ "After the Boston bombings, what I'd like to see is a Moslem Peace March. A tbhousand man moslem peace march." I would much rather see a thousand Muslims wis

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-19 Thread smitra
Citeren John Clark : On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Roger Clough wrote:\ "After the Boston bombings, what I'd like to see is a Moslem Peace March. A tbhousand man moslem peace march." I would much rather see a thousand Muslims wise up and publicly abandon their religion. I think that r

Re: Moslem peace march ?

2013-04-19 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Roger Clough wrote:\ "After the Boston bombings, what I'd like to see is a Moslem Peace March. > A tbhousand man moslem peace march." > I would much rather see a thousand Muslims wise up and publicly abandon their religion. I think that right now a march by Mu