#x27;s good you're being paid to work on FG now or else me might
start seeing far fewer cvs commits. :-)
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>
> It is from over three years ago, and is already at version 1.30. I can't
> recall before that how long we had been doing that. I have a hunch this
> kind of thing is not what is covered in the patent, though.
FWIW, Microsoft filed their patent on Dec. 1, 2000
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Ross) [2004.01.28 09:47]:
> Cameron Moore wrote:
> > Is it possible to use nasal scripting in preferences.xml? I'm
> > specifically interested in using it in a definition.
>
> You can have Nasal blocks under /nasal/ in the property
> tree l
Is it possible to use nasal scripting in preferences.xml? I'm
specifically interested in using it in a definition.
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Wilson) [2004.01.27 13:09]:
> Just a thought :-)
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
Yes, we can actually. Just filter out this in Mailman:
^X-Mailer:.*Outlook
Problem solved. ;-P
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ware side of it (okay,
maybe Gene can ;-).
Anyway, it was a fun trip. If any of you ever get a chance to climb
into a big sim like this, go for it. Merry Christmas!
[1] http://www.kgwings.com/fieldtrips/dyess/sim1.JPG
http://www.kgwings.com/fieldtrips/dyess/sim2.JPG
http://www.kgwings.com/f
panels?
Used to be Flightgear/docs-mini/README.xmlpanel
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e tutorial or
> something (or even a mailing list message that I missed) that you can
> point me to?
Can't wait for you guys to add the AI for a Blue Angels routine. :-)
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>> which flag is shows just for 0.1 usec (e.g. the last flag) ...
> >>
> >> Erik
> >
> >Maybe randomise the order ?
>
> I'll work on a modified version after the holiday.
Might want to start from here:
http://unbeatenpath.net/software/fgfs/Developers
rface.hpp"
> > ***
> > *** 4,8
> > #include "Rotorblade.hpp"
> > #include "Rotor.hpp"
> > ! #include
> > //#include
> > namespace yasim {
> > --- 6,14 -
ar are "so highly regarded" in the GIS
> world. ;)
I don't know how highly regarded we are, but Google seems to think we
know what we're talking about. :-)
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keep a constant CVS repository so we
can go back and see who added this code and if they said anything in the
cvs-commit message about what is broken. All of the CVS history prior
to Flightgear-0.9.0 is gone. :-/
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X11 Makefile
> make clean
> make
> make linux// or another config from the list.
>
> This is per Brian Paul (author of Mesa) in a posting to the mesa3d-users
> list.
>
> g.
Ok...uh, what was the question? :-) I have
of putting them in the "Distribution" section? I don't know how
we could be any more clear.
> How about :
>
> "A compileable version of GLUT can be found at x"
>
> ...as well?
You guys have to help me out here. Send
ld just loop through /versions/* and spit out the values.
This way, any component can register its version for the user to view.
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Barrett) [2003.11.07 11:12]:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cameron Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > To the folks that want combat, work real hard to support a
> > --with-combat=no option, or you're gonna ge
addition of combat capabilities should be
done in a modular, non-intrusive way. I don't think we should force
someone to create a fork of FG just so they can implement projectiles
and a damage model.
To the folks that want combat, work real hard to support a
--with-combat=no option, or you
8kbps upload rate. If you don't want to
>wait, download the code instead and try it for yourself. :)]
> http://www.plausible.org/vertsplit/vertsplit.tar.gz
I almost gave up on loading the page. Here's a mirror:
http://unbeatenpath.net/software/fgfs/www.plausible.org/vert
David (primarily),
I'm working on updating the man pages and see that you commited options
to Main/options.cxx for --com1 and --com2, but there is no description
for them in the options.xml or strings-default.xml files. Are these
options functional?
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e the altimeter setting primarily in inHg,
> but the METAR includes the hPa setting in comments.
David,
Should --units-meters affect the --ceiling option? I'm not sure what
all the --units-* options are supposed to affect.
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o for each release that I haven't had time to do
is update the man pages. I generally just go to cvsweb and look at what
commands have been added to options.cxx. I won't be able to look at
this until Thursday or Friday though, so if anyone wants to have a go at
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2003.10.15 14:05]:
> Cameron Moore writes:
> > I said "One way..." And BTW, I agree. I only use JS when I have no
> > other choice. To me the only other choice is having a separate
> > "graphical" page for each ft
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2003.10.15 11:38]:
> Cameron Moore writes:
> > One way to fix this would be Javascript.
>
> [sound of the front door slamming]
>
> [very rapid foot steps are heard fading off into the distance ...]
[ zip - Cameron zips up his flame-
element. The onClick() simply
directs the user to ftp://$MIRROR/fgfs/Scenery-0.9.2/e000n00.tar.gz or
whatever is appropriate.
Just a thought.
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ity.pub, etc. all work.
http://bumblebee.lcs.mit.edu/ssh2/
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> >
> > http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a8603365/fgfs10.jpeg (70kB)
>
> Also notice the shadow in that image. :-)
Cool! I must have missed that commit message. Nice work everyone.
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2003.09.30 22:22]:
> Cameron Moore writes:
> > > > - Makes maintaining documentation a pain. For example, the FAQ page is
> > > > no longer a self-contained doc. Possible solutions:
> > > > o Use frames (never
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2003.09.30 17:37]:
> Cameron Moore writes:
> > First of all, thanks, Andrei. The new design looks awesome. I've
> > wanted to take a stab at redesigning the site for a long time, but
> > haven't had time, which turned out to b
ark. Great job, Andrei.
[1] http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html
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>
> Cool but all I get from the above link are 404s
>
> Both IExplorer and Mozilla
>
> ??
>
> Norman
Too late...it's now the official site.
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Elliott) [2003.09.14 22:55]:
> On Monday 15 September 2003 04:04, Cameron Moore wrote:
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman Vine) [2003.09.13 10:39]:
> > > Jim Wilson wwrites:
> > > > Norman Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > >
gt; PIII 733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bits
> Note on a 1.4 P4 with a geForceGo 5650 there is no noticeable differance
If you are on the 440BX chipset (like me), you will only get AGP 2x.
I've got a GF2GTS that can go up to 4x, but not on my mobo. :-/
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but they aren't too
> > bad. They
> > > do run up and down the hills a bit, but in most situations it's not
> > > noticable. This motly happens when the river location is very
> > > mismatched with SRTM and the river is climbing
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman Vine) [2003.08.29 08:27]:
> Curtis L. Olson writes:
> > I'll just switch to outlook until this current sentiment passes. :-)
>
> Umm shouldn't that be lookout :-)
I generally refer to it as Outbreak, myself.
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Gene,
I'm a little late to this conversation, but I just wanted to point out
that this advisory was released on March 3, 2003. This is not a new
exploit in sendmail. If you've been running an unpatched sendmail this
whole time, it may be too late.
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> designers as a side effect.)
Your suggestion has been on many peoples' wishlists for a while, and I
like the idea of it. With this additional functionality, we could do
this:
$ cd $FG_BASE/Aircraft && ln -s $FG_EXTRAS/Aircraft/ Extras/
FG would traverse the Aircraft/Extras/ direct
less-involved developers like
myself. Thanks
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asible to add a filter into plib to do the headphones
effect in realtime? Just my 2 sound-processing-newbie-cents.
[1] http://sweep.sf.net/
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> switch
>
>
> -
> +
>
> FROM flag
>
Is there a reason why we use relative paths here?
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http://seneca.me.umn.edu/pipermail/flightgear-devel/2002-June/008505.html
Guess Tina was bored at work today, and she just _happened_ to be
reading FG archives from a year ago? Yeah, right
PS: I'm the overly strict list moderator if you
gt; not sure about the four letters that mark the directions. It looks like
> "TN" and "NN". Anyone know?
Ask Jon if he has any info on this in his maintenance manual CD.
I will say that I, too, think it's TH and NH. Not sure what that means.
I can also make out &
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Spott) [2003.04.03 06:14]:
> Currently I have absolutely no idea if this one is wort looking at, but at
> least they appear to have a P-51 model to probably copy details from ;-)
Actually, I think Jim's P-51D is better.
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I guess it's simple enough to s/,/ /g but thought I'd poke my head out
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the development package installed (usualy *-dev or *-devel).
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Hope this helps.
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? I have one of these:
http://www.rc-electronics.co.uk/usb.htm
I've had it working under Windows before, but I've yet to have my 2.4
kernel bind it to a js[0-9] device.
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>http://fgfs.narod.ru/fgfs-screen-004.jpg
I'm in the process of mirroring these images since your link is pretty
slow for me here in the US. Mirror is here:
http://unbeatenpath.net/software/fgfs/Roman/
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sed on civilian aviation. We aren't explicitly
excluding these features -- we just haven't had anyone who seriously
wanted to develop these areas.
However, FlightGear does contain several military aircraft, albeit
without munitions."
[1] http://www.flightgear.org/Docs/Fl
tter. Having said that, I would be more apt to
support a distributed funding campaign.
PS - Speaking of "funding issues", did I see that Steve Baker landed an
LGP programming job?
PPS - I forget the company, but there's a back-cover ad in the most
recent Linux Journals where you can e
s
awesome, Jim. Can't wait to see this and Jon's FDM model in action.
OT: PS - I'm listening to the D.C. Combat Air Patrols right now. Kinda
cool...
http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=1949108&file=filename.pls
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Berndt) [2003.03.09 15:29]:
> Is there a recent updated options list for FlightGear, or is
>
> fgfs --help
fgfs --help gives you an abridged version of the options. use
--verbose,-v with --help,-h to see all the options.
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Hofman) [2003.03.05 14:39]:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >New hi-res irregular crop texture.
>
> For eye-candy fetischitsts (is this an english word?)
> http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/irrcrop.jpg
Weight On Wheels
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f combining
> this with a 3rd favorite activity ... this could be just the answer to
> finding more time to work on FlightGear. I do my best thinking under
> pressure??? Ok that's enough, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry ... I
> should have just left it at "Hm."
I was goin
rom time to time. Lastly, slide #35 has some conclusions that were
draw from the research does by this company.
Thanks
[1] http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/26/1749216
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> http://seneca.me.umn.edu/pipermail/flightgear-cvslogs/2002-September/002662.html
>
>
> Chris
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2002.12.20 22:59]:
> Cameron Moore writes:
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2002.12.20 14:43]:
> > > Erik Hofman writes:
> > > > I think I should have stated this a little more clear (In this case I
> > > > us
but these
> days you have to scroll down to see the news items so I doubt most
> people even see them ...
Either I need to get some sleep or the papers are not linked to from the
/Docs/ page. Which is it?
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> that rule fires first, so it just looks like a duplicate posting.
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3 people these days. :-/
[3] http://flightgear.org/Docs/FlightGear-FAQ.html
[4] http://unbeatenpath.net/software/fgfs/Developers/Developers.html
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Megginson made the following post back in April about his disappointing
first training flight:
"... I'd say that there's a 55% chance I won't continue flying ..."
http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-devel/2002-April/006392.html
Congrats, David. You i
dvantage is worthless to us.
[1] ftp://rsync.samba.org/pub/rsync/tech_report.ps
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n of rsync ??
>
> IMHO we should switch to HTTP.
>
> This avoids firewall problems and clients are also easy to get.
Are you playing with FG at work? :-)
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for a given file. Using flock or equivalent would be a bit more
complicated, but I'm not familiar with anything other than Linux.
Couldn't we have a simple filelock function in SG with a bunch of
#ifdef's each platform's implementation? I assume most
ne day a few
weeks ago, someone put us on their massive "spam mailing list" or
something. We received nearly 200 messages in one day, many of which
were people replying to the list saying "STOP THIS SHTUFF!" It's all in
/dev/null if anyone wants to read it later. :-)
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FG. Nice work, Curt.
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sMax, etc are considered 'compiled forms.'" And then follow the GPL
accordingly, just like we do with the source package.
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e a lot of messages that just
don't seem like useful "info" to most of us, but fall more under the
"debug" umbrella. We hardly use the "bulk" priority; maybe we can move
the "debug" messages to "bulk" and move some of the "info" m
onfigure option.
I believe David M. placed the log level control into the property tree
in FG a while back, but I think it may be a bitmask, so you will need to
know the bit values of the different log levels in order to set it
properly. Don't quote me on that though -- I haven't look
rrently more important things that are being worked
on. So, unless a newcomer wants to work on it, it won't get done for a
while because I think the current gang of developers are working on
other areas right now. Feel free to jump in and get your feet wet. :-)
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I figured David would have said something by now, but Blender was
open-sourced a couple days ago. This is great news for the open-source
community (ie. "us"). Go check it out:
http://www.blender.org/
Feel free to write some tutorials for us modelling newbies. ;-) Thanks
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way.
> - Personally I'm inclined towards LGPL'ing the FlightGear components
> at some point in the nearer future. Is there any major opposition
> to doing this?
Not from me. I'm a fringe player, so I would be fine with going LGPL.
I don't know that I would suppo
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman Vine) [2002.10.13 00:02]:
> Cameron Moore"
> > >
> > > Ooh! So you run a 64-bit C compiler!
> >
> > No, but I know Perl! When I get a chance, I try to port anything Norman
> > does in python to perl just because I know h
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julian Foad) [2002.10.11 12:05]:
> Cameron Moore wrote:
> >Also while I'm here, I wanted to mention that I get around 3 spams per
> >day to the flightgear lists that noone ever sees (I'm the primary
> >moderator if you haven't picked that
e primary
moderator if you haven't picked that up yet). The moderating is working
out pretty well I think.
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opment tree around for a long time. You'll have to talk to some of
the other "real" developers if you want to do that. :-)
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they should expect to see when they download FG, not what they will see
after an overnight scenery building process...
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> number of vertices is beyond a certain threshold, otherwise it uses
> glVerte3fv(). I picked 25 as the lower bound for vertex arrays, but this
> value is probably highly system-dependent and we might want to make it
> configurable either at build-time or run-time.
>
>
shut gcc -Wall up
src/Input/input.cxx
* Fixed (un)signed comparisons
* Rearranged member initializers
src/Main/viewer.cxx
* Rearranged member initializers
src/Model/model.cxx
* Fixed (un)signed comparisons
src/Sound/fg_sound.cxx
* Rearranged member initializers
Thanks
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http://unbeatenpath.net/software/fgfs/Splash/
One is of the A-4 during an initial climb with runway lights in the
background. The other is an overhead shot of the c172 at dusk.
If you try these out, let me know what you think. Thanks
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Ross) [2002.06.27 23:11]:
> I wrote:
> > FlightGear folks: how do you want to handle this?
>
> Obligatory screenshot: http://www.plausible.org/andy/newfont.png
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s:
> >
> > > What is the rational of doing that ?
> >
> > To let people create their own, local, customized .cvsignore files
> > instead (those who care, that is).
> >
> > David
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rceforge.net/
I still haven't tried this, but you can check out this script for using
vim with gdb:
http://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=84
Thanks
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\ but I wasn't going to be on the road an hour
For the panel designers out there, I stumbled onto a good site with
closeup photos of some individual instruments from WWII era warbirds
here:
http://www.bjaircraft.com/
Enjoy.
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still unsure of the other two instruments you asked about. I'll
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commits changes?
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general overview of how and
what the current autopilot gets and sets in the property tree.
If you have anymore questions, feel free to join the developer mailing
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Note that you are not using all caps. Try running with "KDCA" like you
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> g.
> done :)
Shortcut:
http://www.simpits.org/fileproc/files/fgfs-screen-017.jpg
http://www.simpits.org/fileproc/files/fgfs-screen-019.jpg
Very nice!
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t has been fixed in CVS. Wish we could get a "stable" 0.8.0
released and then contact SuSE.
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> > :-)
>
> I have volume restrictions at my ISP and a lot of traffic to my site,
> so I cannot afford to put anything large there for download. If there
> are any volunteers, I'd be happy to send copies of my scenery for them
> to host.
How large is the scenery generat
uot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Star Flight Simulator
>
>
> > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:38:10 -0500,
> > Cameron Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > <
lopment is going.
> Looking forward to get involved here.
Me too. :-)
Can't wait for you to replace "Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000" with
"FlightGear" here:
http://www.sli.unimelb.edu.au/people/staff/cstock.html
If/When you actually do start actively developing FG, remind me to
thing under the downloads section are two "Star Flight
> Simulator" logos.
Agreed. I think we should confront them with our concerns before they
make some bad decisions, not afterwards.
[1] http://world.altavista.com/
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lGuide/getstart.html
Specifically, here:
http://flightgear.org/Docs/InstallGuide/getstartch2.html#x6-120002.2
If that doesn't help, could be more specific about where you are having
trouble? Thanks
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Melchior FRANZ) [2002.06.01 11:23]:
> Finally: There's no alternative on Linux and other Unixes.
For now...It's vapor-ware right now, but X-Plane is supposedly being
ported to Linux.
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\ there
don't have to deal with. I hope the review made note of that.
But anyway, no press is bad press, IMO. Maybe some people will read the
review and want to help out -- I'm pretty sure the commercial flight
sims can't say that. ;-)
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in place.
Please feel free to do what you want with this aircraft. I've taken it
about as far as I can (with Cameron Munro's help, of course). If you
need any data, let me know, and I'll see if I can help. Thanks
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