Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
as DEC PDP-11 with a strange drive. One disk was fixed, one was > removable. This is the reason why it was easy to switch the operating system. > RL .. something like this was the disk name. > I believe the 5MB removable were RL01. They also had a 10MB removable RL02, which we used for software di

Re: /usr/home vs /home

2012-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 21 February 2012 12:26:03 Chip Camden wrote: > > Quoth Erich Dollansky on Tuesday, 21 February 2012: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Monday 20 February 2012 21:44:43 Da Rock wrote: > &

Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing

2012-04-30 Thread Chip Camden
> ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Best response in this thread so far. -- .O.

Re: "Cloud" software ?

2012-05-25 Thread Chip Camden
n trend) is that isn't defined at all. most probably marketing > people found out that it is not needed to define anything to make people > buyANYTHING. $ man -k cloud http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-05-25 -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O |

Re: variable line-display pager?

2011-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 20 February 2011: > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 08:44:10AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > > Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 20 February 2011: > > > > > > > > Yes, this is much nicer that the more -15 that messes up the > > > text wi

Re: revised pager.....

2011-02-20 Thread Chip Camden
gin optparse.parse! rescue OptionParser::InvalidOption, OptionParser::MissingArgument => e puts e puts optparse exit 1 end banner loop do pagesize.times do if line = gets puts line else banner exit end end banner print "More..." system &quo

Re: bash can not find most of my commands

2011-02-22 Thread Chip Camden
h. I like zsh for a command-line shell, but when writing scripts for general usage I stick with the sh-compatibile subset of capabilities, and I enforce that on myself with the #!/bin/sh shebang. If I need more than what that can gracefully do, I usually run to the arms of Ruby. -- Sterling (C

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chip Camden
s I've keyed in a nicely composed off-the-cuff conditional only to have it fall flat. I have to remind myself to start zsh first when working as root, or start getting used to using toor instead, or just always use sudo. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Matthew Seaman on Thursday, 24 February 2011: > On 24/02/2011 22:39, Chip Camden wrote: > > I suppose I could change root to /bin/sh, but that doesn't even > > have command recall. > > set -o emacs > > Cheers, > > Matthew >

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chip Camden
memory or other > resources, $hit, it doesn't even need to be installed; it just "magically" > works. > > There you have it. > That one doesn't seem to be in ports. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http:/

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 24 February 2011: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 03:32:04PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > > Quoth Gary Gatten on Thursday, 24 February 2011: > > > > > > Everyone is wrong! "pfmsh" is the best at everything, period. It > > > d

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chip Camden
al insults doesn't help make your case. There is fertile ground for discussion here if you'd only look for it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com pgpmYuA46wh62.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Backtick versus $()

2011-02-24 Thread Chip Camden
hangover tomorrow. > > > >> > >> thanks > > > > I wonder if Sterling Camden will offer a "you're welcome" to your hostile > > reception. > > You're welcome, Andres! Now go sleep it off. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camde

Re: mysql missing from my home-page WordPress....

2011-03-04 Thread Chip Camden
el, but it is still easy to upgrade by downloading the latest tarball and simply extracting it over the installation. Then go into the admin panel to see if it requires that you press a button to update the database. Done! Of course, make a backup first. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl

Re: mysql missing from my home-page WordPress....

2011-03-04 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 04 March 2011: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:27:44AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > I have not had a lot of luck with upgrading from within the admin panel, > > but it is still easy to upgrade by downloading the latest tarball and > > si

Re: mysql missing from my home-page WordPress....

2011-03-04 Thread Chip Camden
.org] or a for-profit [.com]. Wordpress.org is the site for the open source Wordpress project. It's where you download sources, and where everything's documented. Wordpress.com is a site where you can sign up for a free account that they host.

Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-09 Thread Chip Camden
uestions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Better yet, just send the money to the FreeBSD Foundation. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com pgpdDljrTcbqO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-16 Thread Chip Camden
erstand the definition of "screw" well enough for its own purposes. The rest of us just don't like being on the receiving end of it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com pgpngAATFdmh3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-16 Thread Chip Camden
chnologically inclined users (a growing segment) tend (but not exclusively) to prefer other platforms. At least, that's what I'm seeing among my clients, readers, and associates. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com pgp101daqce38.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-17 Thread Chip Camden
hearing about one company in the 90s that > actually had "be acquired by Microsoft" as part of their long-term > business plan. Nowadays it's "be acquired by Google." Requires less of a patent portfolio, and more creative energy. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | ste

Re: searching for a good IDE

2011-03-27 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Charlie Kester on Sunday, 27 March 2011: > > Personally, I prefer vim. ;) > +1 Someone will object that the OP asked for an IDE. IMO, vim Integrates quite well with the shell, make, etc. -- .o. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Chip Camden
than I'd want a vehicle that a four-year-old can drive. -- .o. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..o | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com ooo | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpRQg722vvD7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth William Brown on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: > > On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote: > > >> So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD > >> distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or Jessica "Chicken of the

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Chip Camden
at the tachometer, and it should have E written >upon it, then a semicircle, then F. > And on a VW, it doesn't say "E" and "F" -- it says "0/1" and "1/1". -- .o. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..o | sterl...@camdens

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-30 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:09:17AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:14 -0700, Chip Camden > > wrote: > > > Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: > > > > > > > > T: (a

Re: Mailing list etiquette (Was: Re: Linksys-E4200 Wireless N-router)

2011-04-08 Thread Chip Camden
onsider "not cluttering up the inboxes of people subscribed to the > list" a "good reason to do otherwise". > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] +1 (I replied, cluttering up inboxes all over freebsdland) -- .o.

Re: I'm looking for a curses one-iner.

2011-04-10 Thread Chip Camden
thout bothering to type Enter. There may be a > matching one-liner to set things back to the way they were upon > exiting the curses program. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NCURSES-Programming-HOWTO/init.html#RAWCBREAK See also "man raw". I think what you want is raw() and noraw().

Re: Comparing two lists

2011-05-07 Thread Chip Camden
ad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] You could even just output the intersection of the two lists: ruby -e 'puts File.open("foo.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp} & \ File.open("bar.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp }

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Chip Camden
Whatever editor you decide to use, I would advise reading up on it before jumping into text files. To list files in a directory, the command is 'ls'. Type 'man ls' to get full documentation. In fact, for most Unix commands, 'man' is your friend. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpx1vNxHdQ9C.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chip Camden
I've always pronounced it like "vie" -- but I was introduced to it long before the web, back in the dark ages when each shop figured out their own pronunciations and wrote their own compilers. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoft

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit

2011-05-15 Thread Chip Camden
I wish I could figure out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpxOEZd2EVGz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Daniel Staal on Monday, 16 May 2011: > --As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: > > >On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden > > wrote: > >>I wish I could figure > >>out what dependency wanted HAL to be inst

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote: > > >--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: > > > >>On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden > >> wrote: > >>>I wish I

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be > > doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. > >

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit

2011-05-16 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:14:49AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be > > doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. > >

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote: > > >Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL > >dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to > >do in GIMP, I'll be

Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit

2011-05-17 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Chip Camden wrote: > > >Looks like cinepaint doesn't have any GNOME dependencies, and also no HAL > >dependency. Now if I can just learn how to do everything I know how to > >do in GIMP, I'll be

Re: Long Day's Journey into

2011-06-09 Thread Chip Camden
denly, no network. After the second one, I decided to switch (har) to a Netgear GS116. Haven't had any trouble with it so far (knocks on head), but I've only had it about a year. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsqu

Re: Long Day's Journey into

2011-06-09 Thread Chip Camden
lly got more annoying after > Cisco bought out the company. Ditto that. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgptUIfAKPA7G.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: which utility is it?

2011-06-19 Thread Chip Camden
The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" xw

Re: Mozilla retires Firefox 4 from security support

2011-06-23 Thread Chip Camden
makes it work, sort of. Looks like text fields no longer scroll properly. This is taking the Google-led trend of "beta is the new release" to extremes. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.co

Re: mount /unmount

2011-07-04 Thread Chip Camden
www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > I presume you meant to say "on a mounted partition"...? -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpN6Qlmkf89J.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: atheros 9285 wifi

2011-07-13 Thread Chip Camden
A! :) > Cheers > > - > Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Chip Camden
space. All a developer really wants is to be able to manage multiple apps and especially terminal windows with a minimum of fuss. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgptpXUFR0Eqt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: legal notices at the end of emails

2011-07-27 Thread Chip Camden
may be the equivalent of "please keep it to yourself" framed in legalese for added effect -- the 21st century version of pronouncing a curse upon the offender, and just as effective. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensof

Re: Printr?

2011-07-28 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Matthew Seaman on Thursday, 28 July 2011: > > [*] Verb Sap. If you ever have the misfortune to get covered in toner, > remember to wash in /cold/ water... That sounds like the /sapientia/ derived from /malus experientia/. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensof

Re: Printr?

2011-07-28 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Polytropon on Thursday, 28 July 2011: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:00:56 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > Quoth Matthew Seaman on Thursday, 28 July 2011: > > > > > > [*] Verb Sap. If you ever have the misfortune to get covered in toner, > > > remember to w

Re: Alternative windowmanagers

2011-08-05 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Christian Barthel on Friday, 05 August 2011: > > Are there any other window manager worth looking? > > What is your window manager? > xmonad. Minimal, tiled, keyboard-driven but also mouseable, fully customizable via configuration files written in Haskell. -- .O. |

Re: new to os

2011-08-18 Thread Chip Camden
_ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I use libreoffice to open all my old WP files. It's slow as a d

trouble with ports

2011-08-20 Thread Chip Camden
$ uname -a FreeBSD libertas.local.camdensoftware.com 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #123: Wed Aug 17 19:23:26 PDT 2011 r...@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LIBERTAS amd64 Last Monday when I had the problem with panics that Attilio's patch seems to have solved, my syste

Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-27 Thread Chip Camden
7;s documentation stands up to that? > Oh please. I have to use that crap that comes out of Redmond on a daily basis. They never think things through and only answer the most shallow questions, and their "How to"s make their little "Was this helpful?" seem sarcastic. -- .

Re: A quality operating system

2011-08-27 Thread Chip Camden
5th. Take advantage of the discounts now! > > If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to use the support > form on the Website. Thank you for your business. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Perf

Re: *caution* severely OT!!

2011-09-14 Thread Chip Camden
rewriting Python classes in CLOS would not be a simple translation. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgp7AjTEYCdjH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion

2011-10-13 Thread Chip Camden
the > > upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. > > > > Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, wouldn't > > it? > > > > Roland > > > I think this would be a fitting tribute... > Hear, hear! -- .O. | Sterling (

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Chip Camden
nter else for arg in $* ; do /usr/local/libexec/psif < $arg > $printer done fi Nice work, though! -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpwEVMHl5Jyk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [OT] but concerns all of us

2011-11-17 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Jerry on Thursday, 17 November 2011: > > Only those who break laws have a reason to fear them. That statement carries large assumptions about the wisdom and benevolence of government. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftwa

Re: problem in changing serial console speed!

2011-11-28 Thread Chip Camden
irplane is full of win. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpyQMYpXCfIZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Realtek RTL8191SEvB Linux driver?

2012-01-03 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Jerry on Tuesday, 03 January 2012: > > Obviously you are having a very difficult time expression yourself in > English. Sorry, this one made me spew my coffee. The rest of the post I didn't find nearly as entertaining. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camd

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

2012-01-03 Thread Chip Camden
ke sure you clarify that fact up > front. If others refuse to go along with it, find a different term to > use that can better convey the meaning you wish to convey. > If everyone followed your advice here, Chad, then 99% of the arguments on the Internet would evaporate. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpcGDtvtfWLt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: dot snap folder

2012-01-15 Thread Chip Camden
After all, it doesn't fold (for that you need a little Haskell or OCaml). -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpEbPoDy8cui.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Clang - what is the story?

2012-01-22 Thread Chip Camden
ones I've overlooked. I used a horrible C compiler on CP/M -- I guess I've blocked its name out of my memory. Anything you found in K&R that sounded cool you had to go write a test program to see if this compiler actually supported it. Sometimes it did, but differently. -- .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com ..O | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com pgpPyQUEALvSD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Support for the intel Ironlake Mobile Graphics Chipset

2010-10-13 Thread Chip Camden
4x768 on vesa, or to get any other driver to work. I'm looking for 1600x900 on my ASUS K72F with Intel Integrated HD graphics. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpO6LDM5daKO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: chromium crashes

2010-10-16 Thread Chip Camden
"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I'm running chromium fine on 8.1-STABLE amd64 It does give the "Don't know how to do this" warning, but then proceeds OK. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgprQCuR07Lyc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: chromium crashes

2010-10-18 Thread Chip Camden
[ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Hey Chad, Are you trying vimperator, or some other extension? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpT3aNjWjK8Y.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: potential df issues in 8-stable

2010-10-19 Thread Chip Camden
> tress > >> > > >> > > >> > cat /usr/local/scripts/update_world > >> > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > >> > > >> > export > >> > > >> PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/loc

Re: Netbooks & BSD

2010-10-20 Thread Chip Camden
d. Especially if it's a key-up event that gets lost. Ugh. The silver lining: that explains a lot of omissions I was beginning to blame on senility. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com

Re: [OT] writing filters in sh

2010-10-28 Thread Chip Camden
ngle construct: #!/bin/sh if [ $# -ge 1 ];then exec cat $@ | $0 exit fi while read data; do echo $data done My lame attempts to generalize the first paragraph into an alias, function, or shell script have met with disappointment. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.c

Re: [OT] writing filters in sh

2010-10-28 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 28 October 2010: > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 08:11:48AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > Here's a way to do what you're wanting to do. Unfortunately, it isn't a > > generalized, single construct: > > > > #!/bin/sh

Re: okay, time to ask the wizards.

2010-10-28 Thread Chip Camden
t; have you tried something as simple as > > > > > >sed -e 's/\n/&&/' outfile > > > -or- > > >awk '{print; print "";}' infile > > > -- > > > > > > > > > There's another way, u

Re: [OT] writing filters in sh

2010-10-28 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Polytropon on Thursday, 28 October 2010: > On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:17:12 -0700, Chip Camden > wrote: > > Perhaps someone with more sh fu can transform the > > 'if' paragraph into a one-liner at least. When I tried to do so, I got an > > unexpected ; error

Re: [OT] writing filters in sh

2010-10-28 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Karl Vogel on Thursday, 28 October 2010: > >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:17:12 -0700, > >> Chip Camden said: > > C> Perhaps someone with more sh fu can transform the 'if' paragraph into a > C> one-liner at least. When I tried to do so, I

Re: [OT] writing filters in sh

2010-10-28 Thread Chip Camden
er the pipe: cat "$@" | ( read x ... read y ... select ans in a b c; do break; done ) -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpSZZpbI2Pws.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: man(1) output error

2010-10-29 Thread Chip Camden
the problem. uname -a: FreeBSD libertas.local.camdensoftware.com 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #85: Fri Oct 29 10:27:19 PDT 2010 sterl...@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LIBERTAS amd64 -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpvgHjVwg7y4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: man(1) output error

2010-10-31 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Saturday, 30 October 2010: > On Sat, 30 Oct 2010, Warren Block wrote: > > >On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > > > >>>% man csh | less +/rehash > >>> > >>> rehash Causes the internal hash table of the conte

Re: Vimium on Chromium on FreeBSD

2010-11-05 Thread Chip Camden
installable. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Works for me. Thanks, Chad! -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpn4fLcLFPjb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-06 Thread Chip Camden
ons-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-06 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 06 November 2010: > On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 08:02:39PM +, Bruce Cran wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:09:34 -0700 > > Chip Camden wrote: > > > > > Yes, I would recommend that configuration also, because FreeBSD is > > > m

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-06 Thread Chip Camden
ox -- that's a truly useful solution that isn't easily replaced. But I read somewhere that there was a movement gaining steam to break off from Oracle. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| h

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-07 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 07 November 2010: > On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700 > Chip Camden wrote: > > > What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead. > > I don't expect to be able to convince you, but a lot of people find > desktop environments ea

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-07 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Saturday, 06 November 2010: > >>>>> "Chip" == Chip Camden writes: > > Chip> The one in that list that worries me the most is VirtualBox -- that's a > Chip> truly useful solution that isn't easily replaced. B

uzbl

2010-11-07 Thread Chip Camden
alled fine for me, but I keep getting core dumps when I run it. There is no 'uzbl' anywhere in the path, so I tried 'uzbl-browser' and 'uzbl-tabbed'. For 'uzbl-browser' it brings up the initial screen OK, but typing 'fl' crashes it. -- Sterling

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-07 Thread Chip Camden
end time reading up on the commandline parameters to > achieve the same thing, since it's something I only do about once a > year or so. > > -- > Bruce Cran Up to a point, yes. But as options become more complex, either the GUI must also become more complex or

Re: py-gtk install hangs

2010-11-07 Thread Chip Camden
pparent processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there and see what else I can figure out. It's actually in the configure phase of the ORBit port, on which py-gtk apparently depends. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware

Re: py-gtk install hangs

2010-11-07 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chris Brennan on Sunday, 07 November 2010: > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > > > > > > I just tried it, and mine is hung there now. Not drawing any apparent > > processor or disk load. I'll leave it sitting there

Re: py-gtk install hangs

2010-11-07 Thread Chip Camden
lfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org > <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions> > > > > > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chris Brennan wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Chip Camden > > wrote: > > > >> Quo

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-10 Thread Chip Camden
tly. > > This isn't really a GUI problem, because the issue is the file format > changing such that your .bat no longer worked. If you retained the > original format or fixed the script, it would still work fine. > > However, it still points out one of the biggest problems with the CLI > -

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-10 Thread Chip Camden
pt a GUI, many of which do not require knowledge of exactly where Gui element is located. However, for automating repeated tasks (as distinguished from running automated tests of the GUI itself), scripting a GUI is the wrong way to do it. It's layering on an entirely unnecessary layer of abstraction (the UI), and then working around it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpEDviPYbUlX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-11 Thread Chip Camden
g mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" My muslins are staying where they are in the linen closet, and my jwishes are safe in the jwish jwawrer. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 11 November 2010: > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 06:09:15PM +, Bruce Cran wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:57:17 -0800 > > Chip Camden wrote: > > > > > However, for automating repeated tasks (as distinguished from running > >

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
just a couple of the benefits! > Winner of the Award for Best Laugh of the Morning. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpWwk7FfAGyK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Fwd: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
t > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Naturally he lashed out at you, the one respondent who actually tried to provide a solution for his non-problem. -- Sterling (Chip) C

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
way evidence that their use should > not be encouraged, however. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I'm sure plenty of people resisted giving up measurements using the cubit and parasang. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@

Re: uzbl

2010-11-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 12 November 2010: > On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 01:54:32PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > How do you start uzbl? It installed fine for me, but I keep getting core > > dumps when I run it. There is no 'uzbl' anywhere in the path, so

Re: uzbl

2010-11-13 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 12 November 2010: > On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 01:54:32PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > How do you start uzbl? It installed fine for me, but I keep getting core > > dumps when I run it. There is no 'uzbl' anywhere in the path, so

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Chip Camden
conference several years ago. He's a nice guy, with a great sense of humor -- but even he admits "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off." http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup > -- Sterling (Ch

Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

2010-11-15 Thread Chip Camden
mething that FreeBSD users would give a damn about, like enabling GEM support so the latest Intel drivers can be ported to support Ironlake graphics. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpqoepV9Lemp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: adding/updationg a Port

2010-11-17 Thread Chip Camden
about 45 days. Even though it was a very small patch, I presume the committers were more cautious with a change that could affect a lot of users. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpFScTLi7rPh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: new user questions. (Before I back myself into a corner!)

2010-11-26 Thread Chip Camden
her xterm. Either share a workspace between them, or put one of them in a different workspace, depending on whether you like to be able to see both at the same time and/or have multiple monitors. > > Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! :-) > Yep, it's still a surpris

virtualbox-ose port broken?

2010-11-30 Thread Chip Camden
ys/LIBERTAS amd64 All other ports are up to date. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgptRfux7eYbx.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: virtualbox-ose port broken?

2010-11-30 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Beat Gaetzi on Tuesday, 30 November 2010: > On 30.11.2010 19:54, Chip Camden wrote: > > As of this morning's portsnap (Tue Nov 30 10:35:59 PST 2010), > > virtualbox-ose no longer builds: > > > > # cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose && make install

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