Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] YouTube - Chaka Khan's" Night in Tunisia"

2011-01-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/20/2011 2:45:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, waistli...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 1/20/2011 2:12:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31450@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: YouTube - Chaka Khan's" Night in Tunisia" _http://video.yahoo.com/watc

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] YouTube - Chaka Khan's" Night in Tunisia"

2011-01-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/20/2011 2:12:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31450@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: YouTube - Chaka Khan's" Night in Tunisia" _http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3818706/10453353_ (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3818706/10453353) Reply Unbelievable. I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The end of the imperialist epoch

2011-01-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/18/2011 10:04:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31450@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Hear , hear, . . . . CB Thanks CB. The intent was a general summary agreeable of the broadest Marxist framework and divergent views of Lenin's meaning of imperia

[Marxism-Thaxis] Lougher: politics of insanity. "if words have no meaning what is government?"

2011-01-15 Thread Waistline2
There is a general rule about the way society treats criminals: place responsibility for antisocial acts on the individual, thus absolving society from blame. The mismatch between society's attitude toward heroes and criminals rests in society's claim of credit on heroes and rejection of r

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The end of the imperialist epoch

2011-01-15 Thread Waistline2
>> Historically, only capitalist countries which have intervened militarily to establish settler colonies or to set up puppet regimes to facilitate the exploitation of these territories by their own corporations and have been characterized as imperialist by Marxists and others. << In

[Marxism-Thaxis] Bill Fletcher, Jr. Responding to the 'Letter to the Left Establishment'

2010-12-14 Thread Waistline2
"Letter to the Left Establishment" Bill Fletcher, Tom Hayden and "The Letter" === 1. Responding to the 'Letter to the Left Establishment' regarding Obama By Bill Fletcher, Jr. A so-called Letter to the Left Establishment critical of the Obama administration has been circulating for

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Fate of a Cold War Vestige

2010-12-13 Thread Waistline2
On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:07 PM, c b wrote: ...It is something of a law of history that sooner or later all empires must collapse. ^ CB: See _Dialectics of Nature_ by Frederick Engels. _Everything_ has a beginning , middle and end. A mobius strip has none of those aspects. Nothing lasts f

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] James Petras - "The Democratic Party Debacle and the Dem...

2010-12-07 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/6/2010 12:58:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Lack of a Soviet Union contributes to this. The SU was more of the Center-Left's backbone than most of the left realized. Reply So very true. Petras time frame is 30

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Charles Brown: Merry Christmas Baby & Please Come Home F...

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
Lou Rawls "Merry Christmas Baby" with the historical big band sound is classic. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtw3lXjhujk_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtw3lXjhujk) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] At The Christmas Ball - the classic

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
This is the real shit. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stj-zPVW_Hk_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stj-zPVW_Hk) “Everything for Christmas.” And “Love comes with Christmas” _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exmE_FyVFKA&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exmE_FyVFKA&feature=re

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] At The Christmas Ball - the classic

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
The classic _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcuvlIgSj0Y&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcuvlIgSj0Y&feature=related) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: ht

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stoop down, baby

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/1/2010 12:46:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, __rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:_rdum...@autodidactproject.org) _ (_mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org) )writes: This is the funniest thing I remember you writing. I'm t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stoop down, baby

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/1/2010 10:02:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYdZMoqD7U_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYdZMoqD7U) Comment This is my understanding of the proletarian REVOLUTION. WL. Stoop down, baby Let your daddy

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/2010 2:27:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _jann...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jann...@gmail.com) writes: >> What you haven't done is make any coherent argument that would convince me that the substance has changed that much during the past 130 years. Of course there are tho

[Marxism-Thaxis] Marx on the proletariat as ruling class

2010-11-27 Thread Waistline2
What did Marx write on the prospect of political and economic transition between capitalist and communist society? Quote "The question then arises: What transformation will the state undergo in communist society? In other words, what social functions will remain in existence there th

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/26/2010 8:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _pegdobb...@gmail.com_ (mailto:pegdobb...@gmail.com) writes: So am I to hope my children are less bamboozled by SW than we by SV? My son tells me Netflix is useful to him and has higher "earnings"(that's SV, right?) than US

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/22/2010 11:29:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _jann...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jann...@gmail.com) writes: "However, I will point out that a lot of the same things were said about the main players in 1907-8--that they were mysterious, behind-the-scenes people only acting out

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
CB: I think Marx's position is that it is inherent to the logic of the capitalist mode of production, wage-labor/capital property relations, regardless of the technological regime. The computerization of production doesn't change this tendency to concentration of wealth. It accelerates it, w

[Marxism-Thaxis] Homeless in America: the real stuff

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZpRcbgMGEg&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZpRcbgMGEg&feature=related) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.u

[Marxism-Thaxis] Homeless - 8,000 live in the Fl. woods

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0V2MdklcAE&feature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0V2MdklcAE&feature=related) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.

[Marxism-Thaxis] shadow banking system

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
(The Federal Reserve chart is available at _www.ny.frb.org/research/staff_reports/sr458.pdf_ (http://www.ny.frb.org/research/staff_reports/sr458.pdf) ) Road map that opens up shadow banking By Gillian Tett Financial Times November 18 2010 This week, a senior banker friend gave me a poster

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
Comment The property aspect of production relations (social relations of production with the property relations within) have NOT changed or what is the same, the wage labor form remains "the wage labor form." Bourgeois private property remains bourgeois although this form of wealth is incr

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
I agree that concentration and centralization of productive forces grow out of the inherent logic of industrial - electro-mechanical, reproduction. In the Soviet Union concentration and centralization of productive forces created expanding public wealth without centralization and monopolizati

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/22/2010 9:10:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Yes, the word "predict" is a bit crude, but the direction of capitalism as imperialism = finance capitalism and more and more concentration of wealth (monopoly) fulfills the trends that Lenin made

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-21 Thread Waistline2
Marx and Engels predicted cyclical crisis of capital, but never predicted when its outbreak would take place after their death. Neither did Lenin. Lenin's been dead for a while and did not predict the financial crisis - of 2008, as it "jumped" from big financial houses and accelerated cr

[Marxism-Thaxis] Bob King and 2011 contract talks

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
Link to article Bob King and 2011 _http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117_ (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsu

[Marxism-Thaxis] 2011 Contract talks

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
Link to article Bob King and 2011 _http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117_ (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/19/2010 9:23:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Truly ! It is the American working class that has had legitimate gripes about taxes for a long time. The "tax revolt" of the 70's , California Howard Whathisname and al

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM, <_waistli...@aol.com_ (mailto:waistli...@aol.com) > wrote: If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, "lets go to Vegas and get married." Or Ohio. Without a prenuptual agreement ? Comment Yep. A million dollars not what it use

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-18 Thread Waistline2
If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, "lets go to Vegas and get married." Or Ohio. After all, if she invited me on a date, it means their is an interest. WL. In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:29:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Tea Party

2010-11-15 Thread Waistline2
If Obama's presidency sort of blows apart either the Republican or Democratic Parties, this might be a teaching moment for the US masses. I don't know. I heard on Bill Press this morning that two Democrats were on the front page of some paper asking Obama to declare that he is not going to

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] critique of the ideology of the Tea Party needed

2010-11-09 Thread Waistline2
full: _http://www.lrna.org/2-pt/articles/v20ed5art5.html_ (http://www.lrna.org/2-pt/articles/v20ed5art5.html) Small Government, Big State: Southern Program Points the Way It is conceivable that fascism could proceed as a movement to defend democracy and a return to the principles of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Tea Party

2010-11-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/8/2010 8:20:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Tea Party Election Results Diluted in Highly Populated States By Tom Moroney and Terrence Dopp - Nov 5, 2010 Tea Party supporters boasted of their 28 victories in U.S.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] We must dream!

2010-11-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:01:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org) writes: The other question in all this is, except for enhancing historical consciousness, what relevance any interpretation of Lenin has for today, and es

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] I. I. Rubin's Essays on Marx's Theory of Value

2010-08-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/10/2010 10:34:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) : > The capitalist economy represents a union of the material-technological process and its social forms, i.e. the totality of production relations among people. The concrete act

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ron Glotta's commentaries

2010-08-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/10/2010 8:57:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: In 1946, Crockett along with partners Ernest Goodman, Morton Eden, and Dean A. Robb, co-founded the corporation believed to be the first racially-integrated law firm in t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ron Glotta's commentaries

2010-08-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/9/2010 2:03:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: In that way, they represent an alternative to my book, The Road to Hell is Not Paved With Good Intentions. I invite the reader/listener to enter the dialogue and join the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Reform and social revolution: the new narrative 2

2010-08-09 Thread Waistline2
IV. No matter how heroic their struggle and sacrifice, blacks could not gain any freedom as a mass and defeat legal segregation so long as a certain part of the economy was tied to the backwards means of production in labor intensive Southern agriculture. Mechanization of Southern agricult

[Marxism-Thaxis] Reform and social revolution: the new narrative - 1

2010-08-09 Thread Waistline2
Reform and social revolution: the new narrative Marxism contains a language, a set of words and terms accepted as short cuts. Problems arise with words and terms given different meaning. "Reform," "concession," "social revolution," and "reformism" are such words. When these terms are det

[Marxism-Thaxis] Dialectic of Reform: reform defined under the industrial epoch

2010-08-06 Thread Waistline2
Marxism contains a language, a set of terms accepted as short cuts in describing society and movement. Problems arise with words and terms that mean different things to different folks and groups using this language. "Reform" and "concession" is a case in point. When "reform" - as a logic or

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] James Allen Papers

2010-08-02 Thread Waistline2
James Allen was one of the better Marxist propagandist and top notch theoretical on the colonial and national question. To this day I enjoy his contributions. WL. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Corporate media downplays Gulf oil spill

2010-07-30 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/30/2010 3:29:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: As the comments of Crozier show, commentaries like those appearing in Time and the Washington Post drop any pretense of making an objective investigation. They are following the lead of BP and the Obam

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Labor aristocracy

2010-07-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/22/2010 8:49:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) : > In Marxist theory, those workers (proletarians) in developed countries who benefit from the superprofits extracted from the impoverished workers of underdeveloped countries form

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] (no subject)

2010-07-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/27/2010 5:26:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, erca...@yahoo.com writes: ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: _http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listi

[Marxism-Thaxis] Antagonism: a better definition (not edited)

2010-07-14 Thread Waistline2
Antagonism: Antagonism means "the mutual resistance or active opposition of two opposing forces, physical or mental; active opposition to a force." Antagonism is a form of change resolution by annihilation and nullification, rather than harmonious stage by stage sublation. Antagonism as

[Marxism-Thaxis] THE CAPITALISTIC CHARACTER OF MANUFACTURE

2010-07-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: SECTION 5 THE CAPITALISTIC CHARACTER OF MANUFACTURE (Note: The title is extremely reveal

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: CB: Ok Isn't class antagonism you describe a conflict between the old division of labor and the new division of labor with the new division of labor arising based on dev

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB; Doesn't Marx consider that capitalism _emerges_ in the manufacturing system ? _http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch14.htm#S5_ (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Scope and Limits of Theory

2010-07-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/12/2010 11:11:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: In the context of _What is to be done_, I think Lenin's "revolutionary theory" is a synonym for Marxism. More specifcally, a revolutionary movement had to be based on a

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/12/2010 10:53:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Is the BP oil catastrophe the beginning of the conflict and then antagonism you refer to ? Reply No. The material quoted states: "At a certain stage in their development me

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Scope and Limits of Theory: Provisional Draft

2010-07-08 Thread Waistline2
Test ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis

[Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat from Marxism list

2010-07-07 Thread Waistline2
You are missing the point. Marx never wrote about the future communist society. He wrote about the Paris Commune because it was the inevitable first step in creating such a society. People who are accustomed to thinking in terms of the "Civil War in France" and "State and Revolution" spen

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Why a Social Forum? Why Detroit?

2010-07-05 Thread Waistline2
This is a really good interview that ought to become part of a package of literature that is a post summary of the Social Forum - Detroit. The scale of this event was massive. each might of the event a couple of comrades and new people we met would gather at my home and go over all the litera

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Party of a New New Type

2010-07-05 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/5/2010 7:21:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: It even included the Leftist Lounge the biggest People's Party of a new type ever, at Bert's Marketplace (my yard). _http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/111370_ (http://www.brownpapertickets.com/ev

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The US Social Forum: The Anti-Tea Party Experience

2010-07-04 Thread Waistline2
Fletchers summation of the USSF - Detroit, seemed pretty accurate in my experience as a participant, panelist, distributor of "People’s Tribune" and author of a small booklet: "Detroit." The hard numbers on participants range from 15,000 to 20,000 as the result of the computers crashing after

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Back to Marx - part 1

2010-05-25 Thread Waistline2
>> I think that, today, we've come to a turning point in history. People are re-discovering Marx because he provides reserves of critical thought that are still pertinent to the problems of our times, but, of course, that is not enough. The Marxist tradition has not said much on the problems

[Marxism-Thaxis] Hey CB

2010-04-22 Thread Waistline2
Need to get in touch with you 313-355-8186 WL ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 78, Issue 13

2010-04-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/17/2010 11:38:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: OK WL, don't let reality get in the way of your abstractions. The 'tractor' in many cases actually made the small farm -- the mule and 40 acres -- last longer, as the tractor and 40 acres farm.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Fwd: Fwd: [MLL] Fwd: Stalin Archive now on the Revolutio...

2010-04-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/18/2010 9:47:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes: Truly disgusting, but archives are always useful, as is toilet paper. Comment Ralph, you are only one person. Everyone does not think like you or share your opinion of what literature

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/18/2010 12:56:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: Actually, completely wrong. It came into widespread use after newly opened farmlands were quickly depleted by monocropping and lack of crop rotation. For cotton farming it became absolutely essential

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-17 Thread Waistline2
"Social relations are closely bound up with productive forces. In acquiring new productive forces men change their mode of production; and in changing their mode of production, in changing their way of earning a living, they change all their social relations. The hand mill gives you societ

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-17 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/16/2010 6:38:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _jann...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jann...@gmail.com) writes: CIs and the UAW. Careful guys, this thread has a huge potential for self-humiliation built into it. Horses enabled the first stages of mechanization of agriculture. Have

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals (UAW un...

2010-04-17 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/16/2010 5:09:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: What is the new qualitative ingredient injected ? Reply The plow, the technology embodied in the steam engine, th semi-conductor. In their own uniqueness all represents the ushering in of socia

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals (UAW un...

2010-04-16 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/15/2010 6:01:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: CB: Isn't there still much industrial production in the world ? It has been moved away from the Rust Belt in the US, but there is more industrial production in the world

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Part 1 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/12/2010 5:53:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _editor_revdem@ indiatimes. com_ (_mailto:editor_ (mailto:editor) _ _rev...@indiatime_ (mailto:rev...@indiatime) s.com) writes: Speech by Mátyás Rákosi, General Secretary of the Hungarian Communist Party at the Meeting of t

[Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals (UAW unions in real time)

2010-04-15 Thread Waistline2
End game The political battles waged by Marx and Engels to give the First International an outlook and program independent of all ideology of the propertied classes has been outlined and preserved as part of the Soviet Legacy in "Marx and the Trade Unions." "Marx and the Trade Unions," b

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Riddle of Antagonism: (still at work)

2010-04-06 Thread Waistline2
I CB: The new _quality_ in the productive forces is their greater and greater socialization of the laborers. Notice Marx refers to The shifts from steam to oil as a main fuel, or the shift to electricity, or the shift to computers and new forms of communication and transportation all allow

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Riddle of the Self: Antagonism:

2010-04-01 Thread Waistline2
Antagonism: Antagonism means "the mutual resistance or active opposition of two opposing forces, physical or mental; active opposition to a force." Antagonism is a form of change resolution by annihilation and nullification. Antagonism as destruction, and nullification is a form of soc

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Riddle of Antagonism: (still at work)

2010-04-01 Thread Waistline2
Antagonism: Antagonism means "the mutual resistance or active opposition of two opposing forces, physical or mental; active opposition to a force." Antagonism is a form of change resolution by annihilation and nullification. Antagonism as destruction, and nullification is a form of soci

[Marxism-Thaxis] test

2010-04-01 Thread Waistline2
test ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marx conceiving of nature dialectically

2010-03-25 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/25/2010 7:58:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: will provide a definition. A heuristic is a tentative and flexible scheme or model that indicates to the investigator systemic elements and relations that may be important to attend to in order to e

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] an·tag·o·nist Sorry Charlie , Just nailed it down

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
7.5 Antagonism: Antagonism is the basis of destruction and a form of transition to a new mode of production. It is a form of resolution of relations of production that have entered into collision with qualitatively changing productive forces. (see productive forces) In class society

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] an·tag·o·nist

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 9:34:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Well, a contradiction is sort of ripe to be superceded (sorry Althusser) when it is an antagonism. So, in this sense it is more _ready_ for resolution than a non-antagonistic contradiction. But

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] 7.0 - correction

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
Antagonism as a form of resolution means it is not a form of resolution of contradiction. It is a form of resolution of property as this property form enters into contradiction with qualitatively changing productive forces. That is to say the contradiction is between productive forces

[Marxism-Thaxis] 7.0

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
Th definitions used in discussion with CB are from 7.0. Completed final draft is 9.0 Ralph suggestions were implemented. Specifically. Anarcho -syndicalism was taken out and placed in Section 2. Might need to be eliminated all together as an old battle not worthy of raising. National

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reform to revolution Industrial Revolution

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 9:51:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Would you say that these changes that don't change the system's essential quality are quantitative changes ? WL. Yes. These quantitative changes are quantitative in relationship to a distinct qu

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class antagonism as class struggle (Money)

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 9:26:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: There has been commodity production and exchange, production for exchange not use by the producer, since the first master/slave societies. The term "proletariat" is from Rome, so presumably there

[Marxism-Thaxis] Reform to Revolution

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
Reform to revolution: As the productive forces in a system develops, changes take place in the system without changing its essential quality. The quality defining capitalism is bourgeois private property. Assembly line production at the Ford Motor company expressed a quantitative growth o

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective & Subjective reform to revolution

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 8:53:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Tell 'em Dave Moore was a Marxist-Leninist. CB Reply The Dave Moore interviews in Political Affairs are magnificent. No one has really told the real story of the organization of Ford. Moore was

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] glossary--a suggestion

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 7:58:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Saw Marsha at Bert's and said " I bet you know Waistline". She said definitely. Comment Check this out: _http://marshamusic.wordpress.com/_ (http://marshamusic.wordpress.com/) Marsha is extreme

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] glossary--a suggestion

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
OK Ralph, you hit the nail on the head exactly. n the purpose of holding classes on revolutionary history and experience if you will, a need for basic definitions of terms arose. This class was filled with people between 15 years old and 30. Three of us older comrades anchored the educational

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class antagonism as class struggle: the dialectic

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 1:10:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/althusser/index.htm Contradiction (Althusser) A term for the articulation of a practice into the complex whole of the social formation. Contradictions may be an

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] WL's glossary--a suggestion

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 7:36:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: Why don't we put up the latest version of this at googledocs and collaborate, 'wiki-style', on it? Then it could be published as a blog or wiki. Might prove after all that has been said that this lis

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective & Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 2:11:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Dave Moore: "Carry on" Reply Yep, that the flavor. You know more than you think. We simply have a different place in a division of labor. The things I cannot do I go on line and ask for h

[Marxism-Thaxis] Role of the individual in history:

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
Role of the individual in history: Individuals have roles in life big and small. The concept of the “role of the individual” defines the place of the individual within the objective, material processes going on in the world, a country, their community and identifies his or her active role

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective & Subjective (object and subject):: correction

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:44:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, waistli...@aol.com writes: Let us march on til victory is won Proletarians Unite. Correction Let us march on til victory is one! Proletarians Unite. ___ Marxism-Thaxis ma

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective & Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:28:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: My buddy, Bob King. Comment Bob's cool and at this point see himself as a one time president. He has invited all and anyone to come forth with new proposition on what to do in the fight for

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective & Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:01:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Lenin defines materialism as the belief in the existence of objective reality, objective reality being defined as you do above. Reply This mans go. This glossary is being produced under the na

[Marxism-Thaxis] Objective & Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
Objective & Subjective (object and subject):: object refers to everything outside the human mind or the subject as human. Reality, say a tree, an automobile or the sun has an objective existence outside the human mind or the life of the human mind, not requiring or owning its existence to

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 11:36:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB; What are more of the specifics of Stalin's approach ? Reply Check out his articles in the 1920's on strategy and tactic of Russian communist and Concerning the question of strategy and tactics

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Negation of the negation: let try this out

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 11:30:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes: I'll have to see what else has been written on negation of negation that is usable. Engels' use of concept in dialectics of nature is total confusion and nonsense. I believe that Stalin

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 11:03:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB; Strategy deals with the "wide", the biggest context, the "general". Strategy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy Comment I prefer Stalin's definition and both articles on Strategy and hold he

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Negation of the negation: let try this out

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 10:40:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: CB: He says "capitalist production... begets its own negation. WL: Correct. What is capitalist production if not bourgeois private property? I am aware of the sharp dif

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 8:28:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, waistli...@aol.com writes: "Here a definition of strategy I will not be using." CB: Because ? Reply WL. It defines the context of strategy as how to get to socialism, rather than a line of march to pursue given one h

[Marxism-Thaxis] Negation of the negation: let try this out

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
Negation of Negation: A concept describing the shape and motion of change, wherein one stage of development replaces a previous stage and preserves the form of its predecessor. Negation of the negation is a wide concept of the shape and motion of quantitative and qualitative change in nat

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 4:58:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Here a definition of strategy I will not be using. > > WL. ^ CB: Because ? Reply It defines the context of strategy as how to get to socialism, rather than a line of march to pursue gi

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
Duly noted. WL. In a message dated 3/22/2010 9:37:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes: I'll offer a few suggestions nevertheless: ABOLITION: wage slavery is a metaphor. Do you really want to include this under this heading? AMERICAN REVOLUTION; Why do

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/22/2010 4:56:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes: And when we see what this phony health care reform amounts to, there's going to be a much bigger clash than what occurred on Capitol Hill this weekend. Which reminds me, I have to make ti

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/22/2010 8:13:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Strategy deals with the qualitative turns in the balance of forces that it is necessary to seek and the class and social forces and political trends and social movements

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class antagonism as class struggle: the dialectic

2010-03-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/22/2010 12:11:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: 5. A concept that might seem central to the M-E-L traditions might only be dealt with in passing amongst the post-moderns and post-structuralists. If you can't relate 'class antagonism' with 'power',

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