f it is only to make it
"just like GNU/Linux"? That's what Nexenta is for ;)
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video card or video chipset you are using?
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ve right now? GNOME is the
best for accessibility, etc. KDE isn't an option due to licensing,
C++, etc. XFCE and others aren't mature enough yet, and CDE is dead,
long live CDE.
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v run or two -- *if* it has be
compiled.
If it's already compiled for you, it's usually as easy as something
like running "pkgadd -d MYdriver.pkg".
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com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.html
Run the detection tool under Windows or Linux, then post the output of
it here or somewhere we can "get to it".
That will tell us what specific hardware you have, and hopefully help
shed some light on this issue.
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That's slightly disturbing, though not terribly surprising.
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owever, have you trained using a
"chainloader +1" style boot if you have grub installed on your Linux
partition's MBR?
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On 07/04/07, Jason King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 07/04/07, Andrew Pattison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Passwords on Solaris are not limited to 8 characters, but the default
password hashing algor
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> > > Doing a dist-upgrade for a new driver seems a
> bit of
>
e/e_en/support/driver_searchresults.html?navanchor=&term=bs.SUN_Solaris+produkt.SK-9E21&produkt=produkt.SK-9E21&typ=&system=bs.SUN_Solaris
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an update manager that provides new driver,
fixes, patches, etc. The Community and Developer releases do not; if
you want to upgrade with those, you use the upgrade functionality
provided by the installer with each new release.
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n of OpenSolaris. Versions of Solaris
prior to 10 are out of scope. Please discuss this topic on the Sun
bigadmin forums.
You can probably find PHP for SunOS 5.8 on www.sunfreeware.com or
www.blastwave.org.
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On 09/04/07, Manoj Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
> Teamware is Sun's internal code management tool. wx, wx, workspace,
> bringover are all internal Sun tools. You don't need them to build
> OpenSolaris.
wx and ws are no longer internal only. It
eaningful for people who need
to know how to use the system.
I really don't like finding ersatz advertising in the documentation.
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tually, and why it works relatively
well...
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tween them:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/general_faq/#whatis
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se prevents use of the software without a subscription
(thanks to control of their trademark). So, I assume you are talking
about Fedora Core, in which case, that's bleeding (hemmoraging)? edge,
or CentOS. Both of those projects are nothing like the Solaris
official release.
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:
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin
or the Solaris x86 Yahoo Group mailing list here:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/solarisx86/
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On 11/04/07, I. Szczesniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think this will happen without a major shift to a more
customer-friendly policy at Sun.
When is "break my customer's stuff" seen as friendly?
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etc.:
http://www.opensound.com/
Plus, the install is dead easy. It's free for personal use.
As far as decompressing that file, you should be able to do something like:
bzcat filename.tar.bz2 | tar -xf -
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that people subscribe and then spam.
I suspect Casper's theory is true based on my own observations.
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you can of course download the
srpms, alter the spec file, and rebuild the packages and then deploy
as you see fit, but there are many caveats to that method.
The current method that Blastwave, OpenPKG and others employ is the
most hassle-free and least-likely-to-cause-a-package-nightmare way
part was setting up the repository with apt4rpm.
Everything else was a rather painful experience for me.
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from RHEL's latest
version and mashed the two together to work.
Sure, everything you know how to do is easy to setup.
Exactly.
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> The only relatively easy part was setting up the repository with apt4rpm.
>
> Everything else was a rather painful experience for me.
I've never messed with the rpm formats at all
On 17/04/07, shay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
what it the best way to upgrade from solaris 10 (update 3/05) to
solaris 10 (update 11/06) ?
liveupgrade, or boot from the CD and choose the "upgrade" option.
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k it is unfair for you to be critical of it.
Upgrades are easy right now, especially using liveupgrade or flash
archives. Heck, even running the upgrade option from the installer is
pretty easy.
I'm fairly certain you're still talking about updates in a
*non*-production environment.
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from google
searches that were from docs.sun.com many times.
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> > Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories
> seems
> > to be
that tools such as
Norton Ghost are wildly popular are proof that it is a better way...
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vim7.0 has no extra dependencies. a base SXDE install is enough)
See http://icculus.org/~eviltypeguy/pkg/
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. Depending on which theme you're using it can look just
fine. I don't know why anybody ever cared if an updater was pretty
though...
And guess what? I did not renew my subscription.
Having timely updates and support obviously did not matter to you.
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On 18/04/07, xiaoming zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Solaris 10 already supports that feature if you use Sun Update
> Manager, if you're talking about updating.
I have a question please:
Does Solaris 10 support
On 18/04/07, Thomas Rampelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That is not my problem. I would not bother about this
>> if I was more than happy to drop in a DVD or a bunch
>
eeded to make those
things happen are not free and are better spent on the production
release.
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luding NTFS. and so if you do not setup even just a small partition the XP
for FAT32 and then Solaris fails the install to see the XP on boot menu.
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6223894
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hsfs /dev/lofi/1 /mnt
Then follow the normal liveupgrade process...
I've done it myself a couple of times.
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BTW, can it mount ReiserFS?
No.
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incorporate
changes into older versions of Solaris, not worry about current
licensees, etc.
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in point).
Some code does compile fine with C++ using either compiler,
mozilla/firefox/thunderbird are cases where that works on large code
bases, AFAIK.
The major bit that seems missing to me is objective-c support for the
Sun compiler suite. That's one area where gcc significantly excel
On 19/04/07, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The major bit that seems missing to me is objective-c support for the
> Sun compiler suite. That's one area where gcc significantly excels...
Shawn,
I've always considered the
On 20/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 06:13:16PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 19/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > True, and I don't have a problem with that. However, I will also
> > grant an irr
On 25/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:55:55PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 20/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 06:13:16PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> > > On 19/04/07, Ceri Da
On 25/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:43:14PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 25/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:55:55PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> > > On 20/04/07, Ceri Da
p. if it could also support the native audio hardware (CS4231, in
my
case). And that might ease porting Linux audio or MIDI apps too.
MIDI was purposefully left out from the initial OSSv4 release.
http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=6
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might ship this:
http://www.4front-tech.com/solaris.html?
Looks like it:
"In addition some companies like Sun and SCO have already licensed OSS
for their operating systems."
http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=7
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hem. I know ATi
used them for a long time with their driver...
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of NDAs
they've had to sign over the years, but I suppose it is possible.
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ly, and that is
rather pointless.
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s FAQ:
http://www.sun.com/io_technologies/usb/USB-Faq.html#Storage
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ing Linux, so I'm being far more careful about
what I say till we figure out how to get the message just right.
That seems like a reasonable approach to me, and what my own
sentiments are personally. However, I don't think the inverse would
apply to Solaris :)
Thanks for joining
ds compliance and documentation were the two areas the
stood out the most when I started using it.
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non-portable software and never be motivated to make their
software truly portable because there is no "compelling" alternative
environment?
Possibly a moot point, but one that concerns me nonetheless.
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uot; experience with nVidia is great in my view.
Greatly improved sound support is already on the way with the apparent
soon-to-be-included OSS drivers from 4Front Technologies.
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On 12/05/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> As long as there is a way for users to get a fully standards-compliant
> environment when they need / want it, I'm happy. Solaris' strict
> standards compliance is one of the things I liked a
are referring to, if you're
speaking of versions prior to the latest 4.x series, then I would
suggest trying it out again. The 4.x series is a large improvement in
my personal experience.
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pen:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/svr4_packaging/
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/install/downloads/current/
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/install/downloads/current/install-src-20070410.tar.bz2
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erent format?
Change for the sake of change is not beneficial.
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e are the
responsibility of the two parties instead of getting the community
stuck uncomfortably in the middle.
Trying to do a bounty thing or something else is likely to end in the
unpleasant situation detailed above.
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the strictest (understandably)
process in my experience.
I don't know of anyone outside Sun having direct commit access to that yet.
The main overhead there is the sponsor process which I know is being
worked on among other things.
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I'm not sure that ATI will deliver on better open source drivers.
We can only hope, but my personal experience doesn't instill great
confidence in that.
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change which means kernel changes are not an issue unless the kernel
changes something (not very common).
Actually, it's very common. I'm on a private beta driver list for one
of the big two graphics card companies. Almost every kernel upgrade
breaks their driver.
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was a fully open platform.
There are going to be a slew of uCLinux based phones coming to market
within the next 12 months. Why would I buy one from Sun, when I can
get one from an established cellphone vendor?
Why would it be from Sun and not an established vendor?
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>
>
> Shawn Walker wrote:
> > As long as there is a way for users to get a fully standards-compliant
> > environment when they need / want it, I'
ful"
or "short-lived."
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r" can offer support independently from
Sun?
The same way Linspire and other distributions support users that have
binary-only Linux drivers?
You do the best you can I suspect.
It is all a matter of how they choose to do that support, etc.
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compatibility while good is not a total
nirvana in the field,
and not universally trusted.
Yet, I know most of them would agree that the stability within the
Solaris platform is still far better and greater than almost any other
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d be informed well in advance in any changes that could
affect their scripts.
Scripts have nothing to do with it. The point is that the output of
those programs and the command-line options, etc. are part of a
defined interface standard and that does have certain guarantees that
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n Sun have anything at all to do with this?
You are missing the point.
The original question was about an appliance with Solaris on it.
Someone else pointed out that to redistribute any official versions of
Solaris from Sun (such as Solaris, Solaris Express, etc.) you must
have a redi
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??? How is that different from chosing (say) Red Hat over Ubuntu, or at an
even more macroscopic level, UNIX over Windoze?
That is part of the problem. Imagine how much wasted and duplicated
effort there is...
We need to find some way to minimise that within reasonable limits.
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ore than just a few small changes, and in some
cases, a simple update would not work.
You also need to be specific by what you mean by "updating via the
network," notably that you mean (I'm guessing) "online update
mechanism similar to Ubuntu."
Because if I take your
y pay for support for machines "that
mattered."
Of course, it would help if the pricing on updates-only support was
actually reasonable, but that's off topic...
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discussing implementation within this
thread. Once we get this list hammered out, we should be ready to
discuss implementation
Not sure what you mean exactly...
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> On 17/05/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > In order to do that we need a set of common goals,
> defining what we
> > expect
uot; for Solaris 10:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-0406
Specifically, the Package Components page will be of help:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-0406/6mg76stcv?q=pstamp&a=view
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del,
> mostly via CDs or DVDs.
The whole development model is because there is no
other way to do it since the packaging tools will not
allow anything else. There is no choice but to create
the patch system. Likewise the distribution model.
I have not seen any proof of that, nor have you offered any.
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pt for localisation. I think that is the one lacking thing at the
moment that RPM and deb handle better...
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ris 10 Update 3 to a newer
Solaris Express build (i've done it), but I don't think it works with
older Solaris versions.
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is may
just be a research failure on my part, but I didn't see a location for
longer, sentence/paragraph length descriptions.
This is the one failing I know of.
Of course when installing a package you can have a significantly
longer description shown in the "copyright&quo
and such command" and then wonder why my parsing wasn't working...
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On 19/05/07, Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hugh McIntyre schrieb:
>> > You can use (n)awk in the case above. For example, what happens with
>> > "cut" in the c
On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Compatible formatting if stdout is not a terminal.
>> Optimized formatting if stdout is a terminal.
>
> Which would be really anno
or case in point :)
I've never liked popularity contests since long term popularity fades.
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attributable to monopoly market power and market economics than
anything else.
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OS, so
what's the point in using anything else? Let's just all pack up and go
home...
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gs during their lifetime.
This thread has outlived its usefulness, please let it die.
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NU tar, then we can close this
thread now :-)
Its performance sucks compared to star?
Seriously. I can't think of any reason why I would use gnu tar instead
of star if I had a choice.
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