Well, Maud. A bit like an exercise for student reporters - that sort
of fact-extraction can paint any picture you like. It's an exercise
on how not to do it. Yes, I know you said it's what was significant
to you, but I'd have to say that I'd paint a quite different picture,
so would Todd I rec
Nathan,
I never thought I'd take the time to do such a thing, but before I go
outside to cut down the rosebushes I've assembled (below) some of the
key points made on this thread between Quinn, Keith, Todd, and me.
Now that the dust is settling, this is what was significant to me in
the excha
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Keith Addison wrote:
> >Um, Keith? Isn't there a protocol here about outright nastiness?
>
> Outright nastiness? Maybe it's in the eye of the beholder Nathan
I know it is, sorry if that comment was out of line. Seemed like there
were some character comments and loaded word
>Um, Keith? Isn't there a protocol here about outright nastiness?
Outright nastiness? Maybe it's in the eye of the beholder Nathan,
rather like the alleged mysogyny.
Keith
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Um, Keith? Isn't there a protocol here about outright nastiness?
I think Quinn and co. have some valid points, and they're being drowned in
this exchange. I'd like it a lot if we could get back to it.
Todd and Mark, you obviously have a LOT of knowledge about what is
required to make a BD proces
are perfectly
>capable of achieving that lot without my help.
>
>And ordinarily this would be just about the spot where someone tells someone
>else not simply to "back off," but to get the hell off, at least until he or
>she understood just how simple it is to make biodi
7;s what we're all designed for... to feed the machine.
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -----
From: "Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Todd,
FTR, I have read t
n't exactly the same as bread making or weekend laundry." Exactly
what Maud and I have been saying all along.
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From: Appal Energy
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke ga
n for bd and 2T oils.
Best,
Chris
=>-Original Message-
=>From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=>Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:57 PM
=>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
=>Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
=>
=>
=>Hi Aleks
=&
that BD can be accepted as a lube oil either pure or blended with
>ester-based additives.
Good luck Frank.
Best wishes
Keith
>Best wishes
>frank
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:57 PM
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thanks for your trouble
best regards
Fritz
- Original Message -
From: Quinn
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Back off, Todd. Your "break a nail/Virginia
the gold carpet under their feet so they don't
have to conduct the first thought themselves.
But then wouldn't you be altogether familiar with such a thought process if
you're already in the midst of those things "alternative?"
Todd Swearingen
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t: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Aleks
I think your tests have established a few things but I'm not sure how
useful it is. You've established what doesn't work with using
biodiesel as 2T oil, but I don't think you can extrapolate from th
Hi Maud
>Yes, Keith, I really, really do want the design and specifications
>for a complete solution that includes an appropriate washing
>tank...and also a condenser. I am using the word "solution" in the
>marketing sense.
:-) "Marketing sense" is a bit of an oxymoron, IMNSHO. Buy now and save
Ah, this is the kind of answer I love. The 'what' and also the 'why'.
Thank you Mike.
Quinn
- Original Message -
From: Mike Barnett
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two st
From: Appal Energy
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
You know Maud,
There is a difference between claiming to be able to make bread from
scratch
and then going to the kitchen and
thanks Dan.
- Original Message -
From: Dan Maker
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Quinn said:
>
> Can someone please tell me what "2T" means i
In German, the name for stroke is "takt" and the name for a 2-stroke is
Zwei-Takt or 2-Takt
This is an alternative origin on the designated term 2T oil. Were the
Germans using two takts more at the inception of this engine??
Mike Barnett
Eco designer, and foreign language fan...
JAMAICA
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sage -
From: "Maud Essen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
> Hi, Todd!
>
> You missed the point of my satire...my Yeasted Roll Processor and my
> Loaf of Bread Process
Hi, Todd!
You missed the point of my satire...my Yeasted Roll Processor and my
Loaf of Bread Processor are one and the same. They are my oven, not a
bread machine! And I am happy to report I don't own a Cuisinart.
Please let me know if you'd like to continue this discussion without
further in
Yes, Keith, I really, really do want the design and specifications
for a complete solution that includes an appropriate washing
tank...and also a condenser. I am using the word "solution" in the
marketing sense.
The FuelMeister may be both a poor fuel processor and a poor consumer
value, but
You know Maud,
There is a difference between claiming to be able to make bread from scratch
and then going to the kitchen and using your Champion bread processor. 'Bout
like someone claiming to brew their own beer but using a "kit-in-a-can"
instead of whole grain.
"There are those that do," and
]
>=>Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:51 PM
>=>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>=>Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
>=>
>=>
>=>Hi Alex
>=>
>=>>Frank,
>=>>
>=>>Senbel has two
trol brand bio 2T oil but
> > when I
> > > > inquire further as to what type of oil they are using for this bio 2T
> > > > they said that it is a coconut oil and the process is esterification
> > > > process by converting the virgin oil (SVO) to biodiesel or now b
Alexander,
Could you elaborate on this:
=>Senbel decided to developed their own bio 2T
=>formulations and tested several until they came up with the right
=>formulation before this was introduced in the market owing to the
=>experience of their buyers.
Of which buyers? Tricycle drivers? Senbel
ase feel free to
jump in.
Alexander, are you from UP, too?
Chris
=>-Original Message-
=>From: Alexander P. Loinaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
=>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
=>Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil fo
Alexander,
May I ask what you do? Are you related in any way to NCTS or to Senbel
perhaps?
Regards,
Chris
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=>Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
=>
=>
=>Hi Alex
=>
=>>Frank,
=>>
=>>Senbel has two products made from coconut for vehicle use. Estrol
=>>Biodiesel and Estrol 2T which come from the same coconut base but are
=>
Yes, Maud, but do you really, really seriously, require a design and
specifications for a washing tank???
From your previous:
>it needs an associated washing system. Could Mark's
>posting of Sean Davis' stand-pipe system be an appropriate companion
>for the $150 Fumeless?
>
>http://www.veggiea
biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
>
>
> Hi Quinn
>
> >Can someone please tell me what "2T" means in regards to oil? Is it what
>we
> >here in G
Maud Essen said:
> Until the day arrives that we can go to any appliance store to
> purchase the Biodiesel Processor that meets our family's needs, we
Well said, and to that end, I've been looking into and researching on
continuous process, relatively low volume, high quality processes. B
:39 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Hi Quinn
>Can someone please tell me what "2T" means in regards to oil? Is it what
we
>here in GA call "2-cycle" oil? Or am I way off base? Often I follow
these
>threads with only
Among other things, I can make bread and tofu from scratch. In fact,
tomorrow morning I'm going to bake special rolls for the American
holiday Thanksgiving.
Fortunately, before I start baking tomorrow morning I don't have to
figure out how to design a Yeasted Roll Processor that will later
sc
tainability.
What kind of organic growing system is "TN"? Never heard of it.
(Where's "GA"? Never heard of that either.)
If you search for "2T oil" at Google, the first hit you get tells you
it's 2-stroke oil. Do you talk about 2-strokes in the US, or onl
Quinn said:
>
> Can someone please tell me what "2T" means in regards to oil? Is it what we
> here in GA call "2-cycle" oil? Or am I way off base?
Yes, that's what it is, many 2-cycle oils also have the 2T designation on
the bottle. There may be more to it, but in essence 2T is 2-cycle oil.
etc...)
No, Keith, you don't have to be a rocket scientist. But I bet it would
help. ; )
Thanks,,
Quinn
- Original Message -
From: Alexander P. Loinaz
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two
encourage again to go deeper on this task to bring biolube oil to
> > > common people who used motorcycle as a basic mode of transportation on
> > > rural areas.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information
> > > Frank
> > >
> > > -Original Mes
; >
> > Thanks for the information
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Alexander P. Loinaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
> > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lu
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
>
> Franklin,
>
> You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel Fine Chemicals at telephone # (632)
> 850-6877 in the Philippines.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:51 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD as Lube oil for two stroke gasoline engine
Franklin,
You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel Fine Chemicals at telephone # (632)
850-6877 in the Philippines. They sell the Estrol brand of Bio 2T wh
Franklin,
You can buy Bio 2T from Senbel Fine Chemicals at telephone # (632)
850-6877 in the Philippines. They sell the Estrol brand of Bio 2T which
was tested by the National Center for Transport Studies of the
University of the Philippines Engineering Department. This was proven to
be supe
Hi to all
I would like to report to the group that my 83 model Yamaha motorcycle
was running good with BD as a lube oil. Smoke was reduce and no more oil
dripping on my muffler. I sent my motorcycle for emission test center
the result were as follow:
Data reading
CO2 2.90%
CO 3.39%
HC
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