Re: [AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers

[Lewis Bergman]

I tried the same thing a long time ago when they managed their own towers.
I talked to the head guy over their towers.  They absolutely do not allow
any unlicensed gear which is pretty disappointing since they could afford
to license PTP if they wanted.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:43 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Only their own...around here.
> On Jan 20, 2016 6:42 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone ever coloed on a Union Pacific Railroad tower before? They are
>> managed through SBA site. They are telling me that the railroad will not
>> allow any unlicensed radios to be installed on UPRR Towers, does anyone
>> have any information otherwise?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers

[Mike Hammett]

That's what I heard a few years ago when I asked. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "TJ Trout"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:42:22 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers 


Anyone ever coloed on a Union Pacific Railroad tower before? They are managed 
through SBA site. They are telling me that the railroad will not allow any 
unlicensed radios to be installed on UPRR Towers, does anyone have any 
information otherwise? 

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.

[Chris Fabien]

I've been quoted $5/ft around here by contractor in a rural area. If you
are urban or congested  area it'll be more.
On Jan 20, 2016 6:36 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
wrote:

> It complely depends on who you have quote it. I've been quoted anywhere
> from $5 to $15 / ft for a rural bore. I'm currently paying about $6 / ft
> with duct included - 100ft minimum.
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Tim Reichhart <
> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>
>> Jason
>> how much does it cost for contractors to do this?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> --
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jason McKemie" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Date: 01/20/16 06:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.
>>
>> Very true. I found it cheaper to use contractors.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Partner with a drilling and fiber pull/splice company?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fiber requires a LOT of crew and machinery that WISPs don't have and are
>>> not trained to operate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You could do small jobs and pay retail on the fiber construction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Backhaul with high capacity wireless into areas and bury/hang fiber (how
>>> I started).
>>>
>>> Then fill in with middle mile fiber down the road.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or do the reverse and backhaul with fiber and stick with high capacity
>>> wireless for last mile (Vivint?)
>>>
>>> Then fill in with fiber to the home later.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The capital required to run a crew to do fiber is pretty high.
>>>
>>> And that doesn't get you any actual fiber in the ground, that's also
>>> very capital intensive on top of that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Salary is the hard part. Keeping large crews happy in down time is where
>>> problems arise.
>>>
>>> Double training staff might work, but I haven't seen much of that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a LOT of money to be had in owning and operating a good
>>> drilling and fiber crew around here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>> ] *On
>>> Behalf Of* Graham McIntire
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:50 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm curious as well as to what equipment we need to go from 100% pure
>>> WISP to doing fiber as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM, TJ Trout >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> How are all of you fiber guys paying to get this stuff in the ground ?
>>> All self financing ?
>>>
>>> What is a good estimate to bore say 100 or 500 houses passed in a
>>> suburban neighborhood that's all asphalt and concrete sidewalks with
>>> ~5000sqft lots for pon? I know it could vary vastly but just a ball park ?
>>> $1000 per house passed ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Utah astronomers say new evidence of ninth planet is compelling | The Salt Lake Tribune

[Jaime Solorza]

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3441390-155/utah-astronomers-say-new-evidence-of

Damn Chuck.. what don't you dabble in?

[AFMUG] Antenna I.D

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Chaps

 

One of our competitors seems to always have better signals than us when
we scan and our base's are very close.

I am not sure what power levels he use's but he's a good operator so I
assume legal.

 

Can you please help me identify the sector in the picture, perhaps it's
better than the standard ubnt one.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

[AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Panel?

[Christopher Gray]

Cambium recently sent an email about their 2.6 firmware update with this
picture:

[image: Inline image 1]

I see the Force 180 5 GHz, Force 200 5 GHz... anyone know what the panel is
on the right?

Thanks - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna I.D

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Wow, Thanks Mathew :-)

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:30 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna I.D

 

Arc wireless, I believe... I wasn't terrible impressed with them, F/B ratio 
seemed kind of poor to me.

 

http://www.antennas.com/pdfs/ARC-VS5821SD1_DS_061312.pdf

 

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:24 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
 wrote:

Hi Chaps

 

One of our competitors seems to always have better signals than us when we scan 
and our base’s are very close.

I am not sure what power levels he use’s but he’s a good operator so I assume 
legal.

 

Can you please help me identify the sector in the picture, perhaps it’s better 
than the standard ubnt one.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] SyncInjector 1PPS Active = 0

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

1PPS active means the syncinjector has seen a pulse in recent history.  I'd
have to look at the firmware to determine what 'recent history' means, but
it's somewhere between 1 and 10 or so seconds.

If you don't have 1PPS active as a 1, that means the syncinjector is not
seeing sync from the syncpipe.

The 'events' counter increments every time this value switches, so it can
be used as a 'sync lost or restored' counter.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Does this mean the SyncInjector isn't receiving the 1PPS pulse from the
> SyncPipe?  Of that the SyncInjector isn't putting it out to the radios?
>
> If it reports 2D and 3D fix and lots of satellites, which is more likely,
> a bad SyncPipe, or a bad SyncInjector?  (a cable/connector issue is another
> possibility)
>
> When I go to the site (tomorrow), I will try the Pipe first, since that
> would be the least disruptive.
>
>


-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers

[Ken Hohhof]

I believe they do use licensed PTP for their own links, including some licensed 
900 MHz.

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers

I tried the same thing a long time ago when they managed their own towers. I 
talked to the head guy over their towers.  They absolutely do not allow any 
unlicensed gear which is pretty disappointing since they could afford to 
license PTP if they wanted. 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:43 PM Jaime Solorza  wrote:

  Only their own...around here.  

  On Jan 20, 2016 6:42 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:

Anyone ever coloed on a Union Pacific Railroad tower before? They are 
managed through SBA site. They are telling me that the railroad will not allow 
any unlicensed radios to be installed on UPRR Towers, does anyone have any 
information otherwise?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Mark Radabaugh]

Hum…  sounds very similar.   It’s temperature sensitive as well - gets far 
worse with low temperatures, and we are having pretty cold temps this week.   

Extremely frustrating and causing real customer complaints.

Mark

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
> 
> Over two years we have been seeing random reboot. We were told over and over 
> again you are the only one.  Then few people started reporting.
> 
> But cambium never could get bottom of the problems for two years so, I gave 
> up on cambium fixing this random reboot.  We stop calling them about it. 
> 
> As the new versions of the software has come out over two years we have see 
> the frequency of the problem reduce but not gone away.
> 
> Tushar
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh  > wrote:
> 
>> Tushar,
>> 
>> What did you give up on?   Or do?
>> 
>> Please note the mailing and shipping address change below:
>> 
>> Mark Radabaugh
>> Amplex
>> 22690 Pemberville Rd
>> Luckey, OH 43443
>> 419-837-5015 x1021
>> m...@amplex.net 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Tushar Patel >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's what they used to tell us too.  We have given up on the subject now. 
>>> 
>>> Tushar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with 
 450?
 
 So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?
 
 Mark
 
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan  > wrote:
> 
> I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog 
> Resets.  
> Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/
> 
> On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications 
>> Inc < t...@franklinisp.net 
>> > wrote:
>> Hello Cambium,
>> 
>>  
>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
>> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  
>> It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems 
>> across the spectrum.
>> 
>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made 
>> available to fix this short term.
>> 
>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
>> it. 
>> 
>>  
>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance 
>> of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we 
>> would prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>> 
>>  
>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made 
>> public. 
>> 
>>  
>> Thank you,
>> 
>>  
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>   
>> 317-738-0320  Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540  Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> What can ICI do for you?
>> 
>> 
>> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - 
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
>>   
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
>> addressee shown. It contains information that is 
>> confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
>> dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
>> unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
>> prohibited.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
> 
 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna I.D

[Mathew Howard]

Arc wireless, I believe... I wasn't terrible impressed with them, F/B ratio
seemed kind of poor to me.

http://www.antennas.com/pdfs/ARC-VS5821SD1_DS_061312.pdf


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:24 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <
r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Chaps
>
>
>
> One of our competitors seems to always have better signals than us when we
> scan and our base’s are very close.
>
> I am not sure what power levels he use’s but he’s a good operator so I
> assume legal.
>
>
>
> Can you please help me identify the sector in the picture, perhaps it’s
> better than the standard ubnt one.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Rhys
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: It’s official: 2015 ‘smashed’ 2014’s global temperature record. It wasn’t even close - The Washington Post

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Remember the other day talking about NASA, it used to be such a respected
institution in all its aspects, then it became today :-(
Conquered the freaking moon, now a patsy to agenda

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Ha...whiskey makes me invisible..
> On Jan 20, 2016 6:06 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> I think it was shadowing Jupiter. I only have crystal glasses designed
>> for whiskey. None come in Star Wars shapes or Enterprise or whatever. But I
>> do like that guy. He managed to leverage one job into a huge carrier.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And new planet found in Our solar systemwhere was it hiding?
>>> On Jan 20, 2016 5:59 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey I like Nimoy...you probably have Star Wars drinking cups at home.
 Boo

>>> On Jan 20, 2016 5:50 PM, "Lewis Bergman" 
 wrote:

>>> I tend to believe that the primary cause in natural trends and that huge
> magical fire ball in the sky. They are comparing records since way back to
> when...1880 or something like that? Does anyone remember that hilarious
> Leonard Nemoy video saying that we were entering the next ice age quoting
> all those scientists. Hilarious. oh oh oh oh. found it. Nemoy, he so
> cold, well especially now.
> 
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:32 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
 Is anyone actually denying that there is a warming trend? I thought the
>> argument was about the cause of said warming...
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know some will not believe Science... oh whoa with you...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/20/its-official-2015-smashed-2014s-global-temperature-record-it-wasnt-even-close/
>>>
>>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers

[Jaime Solorza]

They use  VHF UHF and 900MHz licensed for two way radio and telemetry... as
well as 11GHz with some 5GHz unlicensed for cameras on yards in my area.
On Jan 20, 2016 7:31 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> That's what I heard a few years ago when I asked.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> *From: *"TJ Trout" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:42:22 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers
>
> Anyone ever coloed on a Union Pacific Railroad tower before? They are
> managed through SBA site. They are telling me that the railroad will not
> allow any unlicensed radios to be installed on UPRR Towers, does anyone
> have any information otherwise?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers

[Jaime Solorza]

Only their own...around here.
On Jan 20, 2016 6:42 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:

> Anyone ever coloed on a Union Pacific Railroad tower before? They are
> managed through SBA site. They are telling me that the railroad will not
> allow any unlicensed radios to be installed on UPRR Towers, does anyone
> have any information otherwise?
>

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

ah - transparent bridge mode was NOT enabled on that client.
do you think that is/was my problem?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


  Yeah, I'm curious how it's configured... is it in transparent bridge mode?


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:55 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


Yes.  What am I checking for?
Transparent bridging?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


  Can you access the station now and see how it's configured?



  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:



FYI, i had to go back to firmware 5.5.10 but that apparently resolved 
the problem.  The station IP is showing up correctly now and we're checking 
with the customer to verify.

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware



  not yet.  but i thought if i were to roll back firmware i could turn 
off one access point and turn on the other...

- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Howard 
To: af 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 
firmware


sounds to me like transparent bridging isn't working right on the 
client... there may be something different with how it's handled on the newer 
firmware. Did you try switching the AP to access point and enabling 
WDS/transparent bridge instead of using AP-Repeater?



On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  good luck over there man, its a minefield


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:



My next stop is ubnt forums or support 
This lady is not happy...


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone


- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 
firmware
Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM


IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the 
MAC address.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and 
other tickbox are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her 
radio as 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106


  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; af@afmug.com ; 
memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
  Subject: weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware



  as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
  today we got a call from a customer who reported she is 
down.
  investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt 
access point setup as an ap-repeater.
  This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are 
assuming it's firmware related or perhaps
  something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, 
we also had to update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)

  suggestions?




  we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap 
repeater, and we also noticed the station is showing connected, but it is 
showing the IP address of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of 
the radio.

  I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it 
did not change access to the radio.

  I can not access the radio although it shows connected.







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't 
see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

will try it and see what happens...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


  If it is setup as a bridge, yes, most likely. I would enable it anyway, it 
doesn't hurt anything to have it on.


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


ah - transparent bridge mode was NOT enabled on that client.
do you think that is/was my problem?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


  Yeah, I'm curious how it's configured... is it in transparent bridge mode?


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:55 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


Yes.  What am I checking for?
Transparent bridging?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


  Can you access the station now and see how it's configured?



  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:



FYI, i had to go back to firmware 5.5.10 but that apparently 
resolved the problem.  The station IP is showing up correctly now and we're 
checking with the customer to verify.

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 
firmware



  not yet.  but i thought if i were to roll back firmware i could 
turn off one access point and turn on the other...

- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Howard 
To: af 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 
firmware


sounds to me like transparent bridging isn't working right on 
the client... there may be something different with how it's handled on the 
newer firmware. Did you try switching the AP to access point and enabling 
WDS/transparent bridge instead of using AP-Repeater?



On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  good luck over there man, its a minefield


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:



My next stop is ubnt forums or support 
This lady is not happy...


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone


- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 
firmware
Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM


IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on 
the MAC address.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and 
other tickbox are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


here is the station list.  again, the file we have show 
her radio as 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106


  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; af@afmug.com ; 
memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
  Subject: weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 
firmware



  as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
  today we got a call from a customer who reported she 
is down.
  investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt 
access point setup as an ap-repeater.
  This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we 
are assuming it's firmware related or perhaps
  something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for 
example, we also had to update all of our oid's for 

[AFMUG] Colo on UPRR / SBA SITE Towers

[TJ Trout]

Anyone ever coloed on a Union Pacific Railroad tower before? They are
managed through SBA site. They are telling me that the railroad will not
allow any unlicensed radios to be installed on UPRR Towers, does anyone
have any information otherwise?

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 Watchdog resets - was: To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tushar Patel]

Over two years we have been seeing random reboot. We were told over and over 
again you are the only one.  Then few people started reporting.

But cambium never could get bottom of the problems for two years so, I gave up 
on cambium fixing this random reboot.  We stop calling them about it. 

As the new versions of the software has come out over two years we have see the 
frequency of the problem reduce but not gone away.

Tushar


> On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> Tushar,
> 
> What did you give up on?   Or do?
> 
> Please note the mailing and shipping address change below:
> 
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 22690 Pemberville Rd
> Luckey, OH 43443
> 419-837-5015 x1021
> m...@amplex.net
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Tushar Patel  wrote:
>> 
>> That's what they used to tell us too.  We have given up on the subject now. 
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with 
>>> 450?
>>> 
>>> So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan  
 wrote:
 
 I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog 
 Resets.  
 Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/
 
> On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications 
>> Inc  wrote:
>> Hello Cambium,
>> 
>>  
>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
>> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  
>> It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems 
>> across the spectrum.
>> 
>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made 
>> available to fix this short term.
>> 
>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
>> it. 
>> 
>>  
>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance 
>> of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we 
>> would prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>> 
>>  
>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made 
>> public. 
>> 
>>  
>> Thank you,
>> 
>>  
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>   
>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> What can ICI do for you?
>> 
>> 
>> Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - 
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
>>   
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
>> addressee shown. It contains information that is 
>> confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
>> dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
>> unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
>> prohibited.
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[Mathew Howard]

If it is setup as a bridge, yes, most likely. I would enable it anyway, it
doesn't hurt anything to have it on.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> ah - transparent bridge mode was NOT enabled on that client.
> do you think that is/was my problem?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *To:* af 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:11 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>
> Yeah, I'm curious how it's configured... is it in transparent bridge mode?
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:55 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes.  What am I checking for?
>> Transparent bridging?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>> *To:* af 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:09 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>
>> Can you access the station now and see how it's configured?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI, i had to go back to firmware 5.5.10 but that apparently resolved
>>> the problem.  The station IP is showing up correctly now and we're checking
>>> with the customer to verify.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:01 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>>
>>>
>>> not yet.  but i thought if i were to roll back firmware i could turn off
>>> one access point and turn on the other...
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>>> *To:* af 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:35 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>>
>>> sounds to me like transparent bridging isn't working right on the
>>> client... there may be something different with how it's handled on the
>>> newer firmware. Did you try switching the AP to access point and enabling
>>> WDS/transparent bridge instead of using AP-Repeater?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 good luck over there man, its a minefield

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
 par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> My next stop is ubnt forums or support
> This lady is not happy...
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
> Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM
>
> IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC
> address.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other
>> tickbox are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as
>>> 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group  ; af@afmug.com ;
>>> memb...@wispa.org
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
>>> *Subject:* weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>>
>>>
>>> as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
>>> today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
>>> investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point
>>> setup as an ap-repeater.
>>> This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming
>>> it's firmware related or perhaps
>>> something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had
>>> to update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)
>>>
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we
>>> also noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP
>>> address of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the 
>>> radio.
>>>
>>> I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not
>>> change access to the radio.
>>>
>>> I can not access the radio although it shows connected.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: It’s official: 2015 ‘smashed’ 2014’s global temperature record. It wasn’t even close - The Washington Post

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha...whiskey makes me invisible..
On Jan 20, 2016 6:06 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> I think it was shadowing Jupiter. I only have crystal glasses designed for
> whiskey. None come in Star Wars shapes or Enterprise or whatever. But I do
> like that guy. He managed to leverage one job into a huge carrier.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> And new planet found in Our solar systemwhere was it hiding?
>> On Jan 20, 2016 5:59 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey I like Nimoy...you probably have Star Wars drinking cups at home.
>>> Boo
>>>
>> On Jan 20, 2016 5:50 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>>
>> I tend to believe that the primary cause in natural trends and that huge
 magical fire ball in the sky. They are comparing records since way back to
 when...1880 or something like that? Does anyone remember that hilarious
 Leonard Nemoy video saying that we were entering the next ice age quoting
 all those scientists. Hilarious. oh oh oh oh. found it. Nemoy, he so
 cold, well especially now.
 

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:32 PM Jason McKemie <
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

>>> Is anyone actually denying that there is a warming trend? I thought the
> argument was about the cause of said warming...
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know some will not believe Science... oh whoa with you...
>>
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/20/its-official-2015-smashed-2014s-global-temperature-record-it-wasnt-even-close/
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I'm curious how it's configured... is it in transparent bridge mode?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:55 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> Yes.  What am I checking for?
> Transparent bridging?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *To:* af 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:09 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>
> Can you access the station now and see how it's configured?
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> FYI, i had to go back to firmware 5.5.10 but that apparently resolved the
>> problem.  The station IP is showing up correctly now and we're checking
>> with the customer to verify.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:01 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>
>>
>> not yet.  but i thought if i were to roll back firmware i could turn off
>> one access point and turn on the other...
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>> *To:* af 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:35 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>
>> sounds to me like transparent bridging isn't working right on the
>> client... there may be something different with how it's handled on the
>> newer firmware. Did you try switching the AP to access point and enabling
>> WDS/transparent bridge instead of using AP-Repeater?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> good luck over there man, its a minefield
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>

 My next stop is ubnt forums or support
 This lady is not happy...

 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

 - Reply message -
 From: "Josh Luthman" 
 To: "af@afmug.com" 
 Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
 Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM

 IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC
 address.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other tickbox
> are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as
>> 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group  ; af@afmug.com ;
>> memb...@wispa.org
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
>> *Subject:* weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>
>>
>> as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
>> today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
>> investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point
>> setup as an ap-repeater.
>> This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming
>> it's firmware related or perhaps
>> something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had
>> to update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)
>>
>> suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>> we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we
>> also noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP
>> address of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the 
>> radio.
>>
>> I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not change
>> access to the radio.
>>
>> I can not access the radio although it shows connected.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Movie Review - 13 hours

[Rory Conaway]

Great movie.  More emotionally draining than American Sniper.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out at the field and it's 
one big glove." - Vance Law

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

A bit of an update from the PacketFlux side.

Late this afternoon I received a ticket from Tyson in relation to these
issues.  In particular, sync from a PacketFlux SyncInjector dropping off on
an ePMP when it's cold.  I have spent a bit of time this evening
investigating this issue.  The following is a summary of what I found.
It's a bit long-winded so that those experiencing the problems can
understand my current working theory and help me figure out if this is the
case.

WARNING:  The following is based on a limited amount of testing with a
single ePMP with no traffic and no clients and on a bench.   This is likely
the best case scenario.  The field is only going to be worse.

The setup is as follows:

ePMP 1000 GPS AP, with no GPS hockey puck attached, connected to a Gigabit
Syncinjector (Rev H and Rev I - I have a special one with a port of each
'type' ;-) ).   I am powering the injector with a variable power supply so
I can vary the voltages in.  The AP is connected to the Injector with ~100m
of CAT5 cable.   The Antenna connectors have terminators on them, the AP is
in transmit mode, but isn't passing any traffic since there are no clients.

When feeding the injector with 24V, I get about 23V at the AP.   This is
pretty consistent with what I would expect in this situation.   The AP
seems to work fine, at least on the bench and without doing any real
work.   However, as the voltage drops, things start to get weird:

At around 22V in, (21V at the AP), Sync becomes flaky.  This is consistent
on both H and I version ports on the injector.Sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't.   Note that 22V is the bottom of the rated voltage
inputs for the ePMP.

At around 20.5V in (19.5V at the AP), the radio just turns off.   It won't
turn back on until around 22V.

Now here's where some total speculation comes to play.   On the bench, this
unit is drawing around 3W.  Let's assume that under load, and when
temperatures are cold, this unit draws closer to 6W.  This would double the
current, and quadruple the voltage drop.  Now, assume 24V in, this puts you
at around 20V in at the AP, which is about the turnoff point.   Remember
this is on 100m of wire, and a total speculation about a the power draw of
a cold, under load AP.  But the point is valid, regardless of the cause -
if the circuit resistance when combined with the power load causes a low
enough voltage at the AP, weird things will happen.  And since weird things
seem to start to happen around 22V, there just isn't much headroom at
24V.

This explains why things work well at 30V.

For those who are having this problem I'd recommend trying increasing the
voltage into the SyncInjector.   The Revision H injectors can safely handle
up to around 56V or so.   Assuming all of the radios on an injector are
either ePMP or the newer 450i's, using 56V into a SyncInjector is perfectly
acceptable and the ePMP's are rated up to 56V as well.

So the summary:   Try a 48VDC voltage source instead of 24V and see what
happens.

-forrest












On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
Inc  wrote:

> Hello Cambium,
>
>
>
> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
> the spectrum.
>
> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
> available to fix this short term.
>
> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
> it.
>
>
>
> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of
> the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>
>
>
> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
> public.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
> *prohibited.*
>
>
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: It’s official: 2015 ‘smashed’ 2014’s global temperature record. It wasn’t even close - The Washington Post

[Jaime Solorza]

Hey I like Nimoy...you probably have Star Wars drinking cups at home.  Boo
On Jan 20, 2016 5:50 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> I tend to believe that the primary cause in natural trends and that huge
> magical fire ball in the sky. They are comparing records since way back to
> when...1880 or something like that? Does anyone remember that hilarious
> Leonard Nemoy video saying that we were entering the next ice age quoting
> all those scientists. Hilarious. oh oh oh oh. found it. Nemoy, he so
> cold, well especially now.
> 
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:32 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Is anyone actually denying that there is a warming trend? I thought the
>> argument was about the cause of said warming...
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know some will not believe Science... oh whoa with you...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/20/its-official-2015-smashed-2014s-global-temperature-record-it-wasnt-even-close/
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: It’s official: 2015 ‘smashed’ 2014’s global temperature record. It wasn’t even close - The Washington Post

[Jaime Solorza]

And new planet found in Our solar systemwhere was it hiding?
On Jan 20, 2016 5:59 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Hey I like Nimoy...you probably have Star Wars drinking cups at home.  Boo
> On Jan 20, 2016 5:50 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> I tend to believe that the primary cause in natural trends and that huge
>> magical fire ball in the sky. They are comparing records since way back to
>> when...1880 or something like that? Does anyone remember that hilarious
>> Leonard Nemoy video saying that we were entering the next ice age quoting
>> all those scientists. Hilarious. oh oh oh oh. found it. Nemoy, he so
>> cold, well especially now.
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:32 PM Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone actually denying that there is a warming trend? I thought the
>>> argument was about the cause of said warming...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know some will not believe Science... oh whoa with you...


 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/20/its-official-2015-smashed-2014s-global-temperature-record-it-wasnt-even-close/

>>>

Re: [AFMUG] McCown TV

[Bruce Robertson]

Isn't that what Kodi already does?  I must admit, I have missed the 
threads on McCown TV, so I don't know what I'm talking about.


On 01/16/2016 09:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Salt Lake City – Syringa NOC is one place.
Not sure if they are totally up or not.  I am waiting on them to add 
one feature.
They did not include a season record feature because they 
automatically record all TV channels for X number of weeks (based on 
HDD size).  I told the developer that we must be able to record a 
series and have all the recordings in some kind of file folder type of 
feature.  They are working on it.

*From:* Erich Kaiser 
*Sent:* Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] McCown TV
Chuck,
Anyword on the McCown TV system?
We are planning our transport routes on the West side of the US and 
just wondering where we should go with them.

Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network
er...@gotfusion.net 
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
!DSPAM:2,569a83d0309421710610955! 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: It’s official: 2015 ‘smashed’ 2014’s global temperature record. It wasn’t even close - The Washington Post

[Lewis Bergman]

I think it was shadowing Jupiter. I only have crystal glasses designed for
whiskey. None come in Star Wars shapes or Enterprise or whatever. But I do
like that guy. He managed to leverage one job into a huge carrier.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:00 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> And new planet found in Our solar systemwhere was it hiding?
> On Jan 20, 2016 5:59 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey I like Nimoy...you probably have Star Wars drinking cups at home.  Boo
>>
> On Jan 20, 2016 5:50 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
> I tend to believe that the primary cause in natural trends and that huge
>>> magical fire ball in the sky. They are comparing records since way back to
>>> when...1880 or something like that? Does anyone remember that hilarious
>>> Leonard Nemoy video saying that we were entering the next ice age quoting
>>> all those scientists. Hilarious. oh oh oh oh. found it. Nemoy, he so
>>> cold, well especially now.
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:32 PM Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Is anyone actually denying that there is a warming trend? I thought the
 argument was about the cause of said warming...

 On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know some will not believe Science... oh whoa with you...
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/20/its-official-2015-smashed-2014s-global-temperature-record-it-wasnt-even-close/
>

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Ken Hohhof]

That sounds like a lot to the buyer.

But I have a customer sitting on a pre-ARIN /24 (not sure if those can be sold 
the same way), but I wouldn’t even suggest he sell it for $200.  Not worth the 
time and trouble.  It’s like the people who email me offering $150 for a 4 
letter domain I own, ignore the fact I wouldn’t sell it for less than $10K, why 
would I even spend my time on the paperwork for that little money?  I assume 
the brokers take their cut as well.


From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

There’s lots of companies doing this… perhaps too many …

 

At NANOG in Montreal I was tracked down by their “sales vultures” from several 
companies where they told me I “must” purchase IP blocks from them .. I kind of 
chuckled and politely told them where to fly to .. 

 

$6-$8 per IP address is what I’m hearing/seeing .. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

isnt there an exchange now where people can sell their IP4 for small rapes?

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  I got a v4 block in May 2015...




   

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

 

But I can’t.

 

ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

 

I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. >From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

  It may be that.

   

  I get my IPv4 from a data center.

  They are my upstream provider.

  The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

   

  I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a 
year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same 
time.

   

  All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer 
have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks 
from?  That may be part of the story.

   

  From: Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

   

  So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

   

  Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

  Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

   

  I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream 
and details.

   

  Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.

   

  Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

  I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.

   

  So I’m stuck without their help.

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on 
Engadget over a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when 
there telling you nothing they can do to help there telling the truth  

   

  On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Josh Luthman]

255 * 10 is $2.5k

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 20, 2016 9:57 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> That sounds like a lot to the buyer.
>
> But I have a customer sitting on a pre-ARIN /24 (not sure if those can be
> sold the same way), but I wouldn’t even suggest he sell it for $200.  Not
> worth the time and trouble.  It’s like the people who email me offering
> $150 for a 4 letter domain I own, ignore the fact I wouldn’t sell it for
> less than $10K, why would I even spend my time on the paperwork for that
> little money?  I assume the brokers take their cut as well.
>
>
> *From:* Paul Stewart 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
> There’s lots of companies doing this… perhaps too many …
>
>
>
> At NANOG in Montreal I was tracked down by their “sales vultures” from
> several companies where they told me I “must” purchase IP blocks from them
> .. I kind of chuckled and politely told them where to fly to ..
>
>
>
> $6-$8 per IP address is what I’m hearing/seeing ..
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> isnt there an exchange now where people can sell their IP4 for small rapes?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> I got a v4 block in May 2015...
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>
>
>
> But I can’t.
>
>
>
> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
> no way to obtain it.
>
> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>
> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>
>
>
> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>
> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
> foreign country, lol!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>
> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> It may be that.
>
>
>
> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>
> They are my upstream provider.
>
> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>
>
>
> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
> time.
>
>
>
> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
> from?  That may be part of the story.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>
>
>
> So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.
>
>
>
> Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?
>
> Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.
>
>
>
> I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and
> details.
>
>
>
> Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.
>
>
>
> Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.
>
> I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.
>
>
>
> So I’m stuck without their help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *timothy steele
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget
> over a month ago there content providers are 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Seth Mattinen]

On 1/19/16 10:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

Lucky you.

Here is what they told me on Oct 30 2015.



That was unfortunately just too late to get space from the free pool. 
The IPv4 free pool hit zero on September 24, 2015 with warning flags out 
much before that. Now all you can do with ARIN for IPv4 is to get on the 
waiting list (good luck) and do the transfer pre-approval thing.


Next, prepare to get fucked on the secondary market. Big time. Everyone 
that is selling IPv4 space knows they can screw you hard while you smile 
and say "thank you kind sir, may I have another?", but I would like to 
think it'll help spur IPv6 adoption.


Fortunately most of the major content generates whining is reachable on 
IPv6. It might be worth your time to roll out IPv6 to your customers and 
see if that helps. If you haven't started on that by now... well, trial 
by fire time. Also, if you deploy IPv6 there is some IPv4 set aside at 
ARIN to help with transitions you could still qualify for. Although they 
could give you less than a /24 which IMO is just about useless unless 
the rest of the world's BGP filter boundaries change.


The "nothing to lose" option is to work with your provider to allow 
announcing your existing IPv4 assignments via BGP directly. They'll 
still announce the aggregate but at the very least your AS will be 
attached to the more specifics.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Ken Hohhof]

The difference will be when we can charge customers differently.  Like $40/mo 
for IPv6 only or CG NAT, $50/mo for dual stack IPv4/v6.  That also requires an 
easy to understand reason why the customer should care.  Compare to charging 
business customers extra for a static vs dynamic IP address.

Until you can put a $$$ value on it, it’s just blah blah blah save the whales.  
Money makes the world go round.  Or what is the saying, money talks, bullshit 
walks?


From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

One potential way of looking at the cost is per subscriber.  So if you assume 
$10 per IP and equate that you need one IP per subscriber then you could add 
$10 to your setup/install fee to recover it.

 

Not that IP addresses were free in the first place, just that they cost less.

 

I would imagine that these costs will really go to much higher numbers at some 
point … the higher the number, the more inclined I think folks will be to adopt 
IPv6 in hopes that we could finally move to IPv6 only in the world (yeah, I 
know it seems like a dream)

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

 

.. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

  Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting theirs. 
$10/ip

  On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

 

But I can’t.

 

ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

 

I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. >From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

  It may be that.

   

  I get my IPv4 from a data center.

  They are my upstream provider.

  The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

   

  I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a 
year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same 
time.

   

  All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer 
have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks 
from?  That may be part of the story.

   

  From: Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

   

  So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

   

  Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

  Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

   

  I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream 
and details.

   

  Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.

   

  Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

  I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.

   

  So I’m stuck without their help.

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on 
Engadget over a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when 
there 

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Chuck McCown]

Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

(That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first week 
of operation).

From: Josh Baird 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is having 
issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are going 
to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it back to 
life.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 wrote:

  Hello Cambium,



  At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was 
very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the 
spectrum. 

  We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to 
fix this short term.

  The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  



  Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of 
the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer 
a full recall and replacement program immediately.



  If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 



  Thank you,



  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net 





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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Brian Sullivan]

*is NOT

On 1/20/2016 12:20 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:
I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from 
Watchdog Resets.

Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/

On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc  wrote:


Hello Cambium,

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana
WISPs compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing
with ePMPs.  It was very interesting to learn we are experience
identical problems across the spectrum.

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you
have identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has
been made available to fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of
dealing with it.

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the
performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it has
been suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement
program immediately.

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product
performance is inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would
like for this to be made public.

Thank you,

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net* 

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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Chuck McCown]

Just teasing...

From: Josh Baird 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

  (That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first 
week of operation).

  From: Josh Baird 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

  Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is 
having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are 
going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it 
back to life.

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 wrote:

Hello Cambium,



At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was 
very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the 
spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to 
fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
it.  



Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of 
the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer 
a full recall and replacement program immediately.



If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 



Thank you,



Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 





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Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Cameron Crum]

PPPOE can be dropped with an incoming radius command.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> How are you handling changes to your services today if you're using PPPoE?
>
> For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific attributes to set
> their speed, or IP address, or whether they should be redirected to a
> splash page. If you change one of these attributes, what is your current
> strategy for forcing a re-auth to update the attributes? Seems like it is
> pretty easy while you're on the phone with a customer to either login to
> your own gear and reauth the session, or tell them to reboot their router,
> or whatever their authenticated device is. But if they are disabled and
> they make a payment on a splash page, it seems like it would be likely to
> generate a service call if the splash page tried telling them to do
> something like reboot their router or radio.
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
> https://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Paul Stewart]

Definitely have seen a lot of valuation in companies recently due to their IP 
space – in fact I’ve seen several companies that got bought only for their IP 
space in the past while (the company wasn’t in good shape but had large blocks 
of IP’s included).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

So if you’re looking to sell your WISP, make sure to value your IPs 
accordingly.. Or don’t include them as part of the sale, hold onto them for a 
few years while they go up in value and sell them later?  Might be better 
returns than your IRA :)

 

Interesting fact, Charter sold a local cable plant to TDS and TDS in taking 
over had to bring their own IPs. The sale of the customers and assets did NOT 
include the IPs. 

 

-c

 

On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Josh Baird  > wrote:

 

http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

 

.. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting theirs. 
$10/ip

On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  > wrote:

Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

 

But I can’t.

 

ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was no 
way to obtain it.

I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much as 
possible to avoid crap like this.

I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

 

I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  > wrote:

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com   and a few 
others a year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at 
the same time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.

 

From: Sterling Jacobson   

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

 

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

 

Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

 

I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and 
details.

 

Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.

 

Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.

 

So I’m stuck without their help.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget over 
a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there telling you 
nothing they can do to help there telling the truth  

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your users 
are having issues watching content

On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman"  > wrote:

Try NANOG?

Josh 

[AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point setup as an 
ap-repeater.
This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming it's 
firmware related or perhaps
something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had to update 
all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)

suggestions?




we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we also noticed 
the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address of the 
customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.

I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not change access to 
the radio.

I can not access the radio although it shows connected.

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Baird]

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is
having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We
are going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that
brings it back to life.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
 wrote:

> Hello Cambium,
>
>
>
> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
> the spectrum.
>
> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
> available to fix this short term.
>
> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
> it.
>
>
>
> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of
> the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>
>
>
> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
> public.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
> *prohibited.*
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other tickbox are
deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as
> 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group  ; af@afmug.com ;
> memb...@wispa.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
> *Subject:* weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>
>
> as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
> today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
> investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point setup
> as an ap-repeater.
> This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming it's
> firmware related or perhaps
> something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had to
> update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)
>
> suggestions?
>
>
>
> we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we also
> noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address
> of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.
>
> I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not change
> access to the radio.
>
> I can not access the radio although it shows connected.
>
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

What I cant find is clarification on the ipv4 deployment requirements. We
missed the boat on getting another allocation because renumbering to meet
the in use requirement for the request (too many stacically configured IPs
in the middle of every subnet spread around the network) so we didnt get
them.

So now, since we couldnt even get a /24 because we didnt have enough of our
current allocation actively assigned, can I go to the marketplace with an
extra 100 and just pick up a /17 with no issues, or will ARIN decline the
transfer because we wouldnt have them in use? Are they still reclaiming
dormant allocations? You would think the market would flood with IP4 as IP6
is deployed because there would be allocations no longer meeting the
minimum deployment rules.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 1/19/16 10:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>
>> Lucky you.
>>
>> Here is what they told me on Oct 30 2015.
>>
>>
> That was unfortunately just too late to get space from the free pool. The
> IPv4 free pool hit zero on September 24, 2015 with warning flags out much
> before that. Now all you can do with ARIN for IPv4 is to get on the waiting
> list (good luck) and do the transfer pre-approval thing.
>
> Next, prepare to get fucked on the secondary market. Big time. Everyone
> that is selling IPv4 space knows they can screw you hard while you smile
> and say "thank you kind sir, may I have another?", but I would like to
> think it'll help spur IPv6 adoption.
>
> Fortunately most of the major content generates whining is reachable on
> IPv6. It might be worth your time to roll out IPv6 to your customers and
> see if that helps. If you haven't started on that by now... well, trial by
> fire time. Also, if you deploy IPv6 there is some IPv4 set aside at ARIN to
> help with transitions you could still qualify for. Although they could give
> you less than a /24 which IMO is just about useless unless the rest of the
> world's BGP filter boundaries change.
>
> The "nothing to lose" option is to work with your provider to allow
> announcing your existing IPv4 assignments via BGP directly. They'll still
> announce the aggregate but at the very least your AS will be attached to
> the more specifics.
>
> ~Seth
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[paul]

One potential way of looking at the cost is per subscriber.  So if you assume 
$10 per IP and equate that you need one IP per subscriber then you could add 
$10 to your setup/install fee to recover it.

 

Not that IP addresses were free in the first place, just that they cost less.

 

I would imagine that these costs will really go to much higher numbers at some 
point … the higher the number, the more inclined I think folks will be to adopt 
IPv6 in hopes that we could finally move to IPv6 only in the world (yeah, I 
know it seems like a dream)

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

 

.. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting theirs. 
$10/ip

On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  > wrote:

Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

 

But I can’t.

 

ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was no 
way to obtain it.

I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much as 
possible to avoid crap like this.

I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

 

I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  > wrote:

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year ago 
because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.

 

From: Sterling Jacobson   

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

 

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

 

Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

 

I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and 
details.

 

Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.

 

Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.

 

So I’m stuck without their help.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget over 
a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there telling you 
nothing they can do to help there telling the truth  

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your users 
are having issues watching content

On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman"  > wrote:

Try NANOG?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 19, 2016 8:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  > wrote:

Anyone else start getting these calls today?

My personal Netflix, on the 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[paul]

Definitely have seen a lot of valuation in companies recently due to their IP 
space – in fact I’ve seen several companies that got bought only for their IP 
space in the past while (the company wasn’t in good shape but had large blocks 
of IP’s included).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

So if you’re looking to sell your WISP, make sure to value your IPs 
accordingly.. Or don’t include them as part of the sale, hold onto them for a 
few years while they go up in value and sell them later?  Might be better 
returns than your IRA :)

 

Interesting fact, Charter sold a local cable plant to TDS and TDS in taking 
over had to bring their own IPs. The sale of the customers and assets did NOT 
include the IPs. 

 

-c

 

On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Josh Baird  > wrote:

 

http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

 

.. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting theirs. 
$10/ip

On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  > wrote:

Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

 

But I can’t.

 

ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was no 
way to obtain it.

I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much as 
possible to avoid crap like this.

I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

 

I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  > wrote:

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com   and a few 
others a year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at 
the same time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.

 

From: Sterling Jacobson   

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

 

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

 

Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

 

I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and 
details.

 

Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.

 

Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.

 

So I’m stuck without their help.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget over 
a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there telling you 
nothing they can do to help there telling the truth  

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your users 
are having issues watching content

On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman"  > wrote:

Try NANOG?

Josh 

[AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Simon Westlake]

How are you handling changes to your services today if you're using PPPoE?

For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific attributes to 
set their speed, or IP address, or whether they should be redirected to 
a splash page. If you change one of these attributes, what is your 
current strategy for forcing a re-auth to update the attributes? Seems 
like it is pretty easy while you're on the phone with a customer to 
either login to your own gear and reauth the session, or tell them to 
reboot their router, or whatever their authenticated device is. But if 
they are disabled and they make a payment on a splash page, it seems 
like it would be likely to generate a service call if the splash page 
tried telling them to do something like reboot their router or radio.


--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Simon Westlake]

That certainly sounds like the best solution. Thanks!

On 1/20/2016 12:48 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

PPPOE can be dropped with an incoming radius command.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


How are you handling changes to your services today if you're
using PPPoE?

For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific attributes
to set their speed, or IP address, or whether they should be
redirected to a splash page. If you change one of these
attributes, what is your current strategy for forcing a re-auth to
update the attributes? Seems like it is pretty easy while you're
on the phone with a customer to either login to your own gear and
reauth the session, or tell them to reboot their router, or
whatever their authenticated device is. But if they are disabled
and they make a payment on a splash page, it seems like it would
be likely to generate a service call if the splash page tried
telling them to do something like reboot their router or radio.

-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as 10.8.19.56 
; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106


  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
  Subject: weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware



  as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
  today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
  investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point setup as 
an ap-repeater.
  This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming it's 
firmware related or perhaps
  something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had to 
update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)

  suggestions?




  we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we also 
noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address of 
the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.

  I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not change access 
to the radio.

  I can not access the radio although it shows connected.

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Luthman]

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
 wrote:

> Hello Cambium,
>
>
>
> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
> the spectrum.
>
> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
> available to fix this short term.
>
> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
> it.
>
>
>
> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of
> the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>
>
>
> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
> public.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
> *prohibited.*
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Is there an estimation by those "in the know" on consumer adoption of IPv6
(as in business consumer, not so much the resi, theyll take what they get)?
Not so much even on the inside, their router can handle the 4-6, but as far
as businesses adopting it. when that happens I would guess the value of IP4
other than as an antiquity would drop to pretty much nothing.
What is the current actual IPv6 adoption percentage across the interwebs? I
just dont see it as a good long term investment beyond a few years to get
on top of the bubble. If Xerox drops 16 million IPs on the market, or any
of the other holders, its chaos.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> The difference will be when we can charge customers differently.  Like
> $40/mo for IPv6 only or CG NAT, $50/mo for dual stack IPv4/v6.  That also
> requires an easy to understand reason why the customer should care.
> Compare to charging business customers extra for a static vs dynamic IP
> address.
>
> Until you can put a $$$ value on it, it’s just blah blah blah save the
> whales.  Money makes the world go round.  Or what is the saying, money
> talks, bullshit walks?
>
>
> *From:* Paul Stewart 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
> One potential way of looking at the cost is per subscriber.  So if you
> assume $10 per IP and equate that you need one IP per subscriber then you
> could add $10 to your setup/install fee to recover it.
>
>
>
> Not that IP addresses were free in the first place, just that they cost
> less.
>
>
>
> I would imagine that these costs will really go to much higher numbers at
> some point … the higher the number, the more inclined I think folks will be
> to adopt IPv6 in hopes that we could finally move to IPv6 only in the world
> (yeah, I know it seems like a dream)
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:09 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/
>
>
>
> .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting
> theirs. $10/ip
>
> On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>
>
>
> But I can’t.
>
>
>
> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
> no way to obtain it.
>
> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>
> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>
>
>
> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>
> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
> foreign country, lol!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>
> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> It may be that.
>
>
>
> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>
> They are my upstream provider.
>
> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>
>
>
> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
> time.
>
>
>
> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
> from?  That may be part of the story.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>
>
>
> So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.
>
>
>
> Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?
>
> Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.
>
>
>
> I just got off the phone. They 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Josh Reynolds]

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:
> Is there an estimation by those "in the know" on consumer adoption of IPv6
> (as in business consumer, not so much the resi, theyll take what they get)?
> Not so much even on the inside, their router can handle the 4-6, but as far
> as businesses adopting it. when that happens I would guess the value of IP4
> other than as an antiquity would drop to pretty much nothing.
> What is the current actual IPv6 adoption percentage across the interwebs? I
> just dont see it as a good long term investment beyond a few years to get on
> top of the bubble. If Xerox drops 16 million IPs on the market, or any of
> the other holders, its chaos.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> The difference will be when we can charge customers differently.  Like
>> $40/mo for IPv6 only or CG NAT, $50/mo for dual stack IPv4/v6.  That also
>> requires an easy to understand reason why the customer should care.  Compare
>> to charging business customers extra for a static vs dynamic IP address.
>>
>> Until you can put a $$$ value on it, it’s just blah blah blah save the
>> whales.  Money makes the world go round.  Or what is the saying, money
>> talks, bullshit walks?
>>
>>
>> From: Paul Stewart
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:05 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>> One potential way of looking at the cost is per subscriber.  So if you
>> assume $10 per IP and equate that you need one IP per subscriber then you
>> could add $10 to your setup/install fee to recover it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not that IP addresses were free in the first place, just that they cost
>> less.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would imagine that these costs will really go to much higher numbers at
>> some point … the higher the number, the more inclined I think folks will be
>> to adopt IPv6 in hopes that we could finally move to IPv6 only in the world
>> (yeah, I know it seems like a dream)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:09 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting
>> theirs. $10/ip
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I can’t.
>>
>>
>>
>> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
>> no way to obtain it.
>>
>> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
>> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>>
>> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>>
>> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
>> foreign country, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
>> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
>> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
>> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>>
>> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It may be that.
>>
>>
>>
>> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>>
>> They are my upstream provider.
>>
>> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
>> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
>> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?
>> That may be part of the story.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sterling Jacobson
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>>
>>
>>
>> So they have wrongly allocated or 

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Baird]

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!
>
> (That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first
> week of operation).
>
> *From:* Josh Baird 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.
>
> Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is
> having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We
> are going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that
> brings it back to life.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc  wrote:
>
>> Hello Cambium,
>>
>>
>>
>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
>> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
>> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
>> the spectrum.
>>
>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
>> available to fix this short term.
>>
>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance
>> of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
>> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
>> public.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>
>>
>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>
>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>> *prohibited.*
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Eric Kuhnke]

$6-8 to purchase (per IP, in chunks of a /24) is not that bad compared to
the secondary ipv4 "rental" market which is going for $1/IP/mo also in /24.
The "rental" IPs are frequently something that was used in a bulk
colo/hosting/VPS/dedicated server environment and is listed in every RBL
spam swamp.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> There’s lots of companies doing this… perhaps too many …
>
>
>
> At NANOG in Montreal I was tracked down by their “sales vultures” from
> several companies where they told me I “must” purchase IP blocks from them
> .. I kind of chuckled and politely told them where to fly to ..
>
>
>
> $6-$8 per IP address is what I’m hearing/seeing ..
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> isnt there an exchange now where people can sell their IP4 for small rapes?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> I got a v4 block in May 2015...
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>
>
>
> But I can’t.
>
>
>
> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
> no way to obtain it.
>
> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>
> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>
>
>
> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>
> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
> foreign country, lol!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>
> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> It may be that.
>
>
>
> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>
> They are my upstream provider.
>
> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>
>
>
> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
> time.
>
>
>
> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
> from?  That may be part of the story.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>
>
>
> So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.
>
>
>
> Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?
>
> Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.
>
>
>
> I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and
> details.
>
>
>
> Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.
>
>
>
> Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.
>
> I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.
>
>
>
> So I’m stuck without their help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *timothy steele
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget
> over a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there
> telling you nothing they can do to help there telling the truth
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your
> users are having issues watching content
>
> On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> Try NANOG?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Paul Stewart]

Yeah but they are not interested so much in /24’s as you mention … 
time/effort/paperwork etc isn’t worth it possibly although current rates would 
value it at $2k or so :)

 

It’s larger blocks such as /16 and /17 blocks where they get excited .. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

That sounds like a lot to the buyer.

 

But I have a customer sitting on a pre-ARIN /24 (not sure if those can be sold 
the same way), but I wouldn’t even suggest he sell it for $200.  Not worth the 
time and trouble.  It’s like the people who email me offering $150 for a 4 
letter domain I own, ignore the fact I wouldn’t sell it for less than $10K, why 
would I even spend my time on the paperwork for that little money?  I assume 
the brokers take their cut as well.

 

 

From: Paul Stewart   

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:52 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

There’s lots of companies doing this… perhaps too many …

 

At NANOG in Montreal I was tracked down by their “sales vultures” from several 
companies where they told me I “must” purchase IP blocks from them .. I kind of 
chuckled and politely told them where to fly to .. 

 

$6-$8 per IP address is what I’m hearing/seeing .. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

isnt there an exchange now where people can sell their IP4 for small rapes?

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

I got a v4 block in May 2015...




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson  > wrote:

Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

 

But I can’t.

 

ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was no 
way to obtain it.

I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much as 
possible to avoid crap like this.

I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

 

I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  > wrote:

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year ago 
because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.

 

From: Sterling Jacobson   

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

 

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

 

Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

 

I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and 
details.

 

Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.

 

Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.

 

So I’m stuck without their help.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Sterling Jacobson]

They wouldn’t give me any for starting out since I wasn’t multi-homed.

I think all of you must have been requesting on an existing ISP that had 
allocation.

For new ISPs it’s impossible.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Yeah, I got several allocations up to like 4 or 5 months ago when they 
depleted. If you started in 2013 you dropped the ball, you could have had 
50,000 ip's by now.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.

So I guess that’s not the problem.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:25 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

http://bgp.he.net/AS394752

You don't seem to be advertising anything.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Sterling Jacobson" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:00:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix
My ASN is 394752 the data center upstream ASN is 11798.

I’m still not sure this isn’t that new world wide problem of forcing DNS 
redirection in routers running parental filtering.

One instance of this was a customer running filtering on their router, but they 
said they turned it off and it still has the same Netflix message.

I’ll try emailing their NOC and see if I receive anything intelligent.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

What is you ASN ? I will be more than happy to check if I see anything odd.

Also, Netflix has different IP's in different parts of the country they use for 
sending the video streams.
We typically don't see the same prefix advertised by them via different pops 
they have.

Plus, not sure if you already got hold of them... you can reach them via email 
to their NOC cdnet...@netflix.com

If you give a shout out them on Nanog mailing list, you are very likely to get 
a fairly prompt response from their technical team.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Sterling Jacobson" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix
It may be that.

I get my IPv4 from a data center.
They are my upstream provider.
The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year ago 
because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time.

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

Doesn’t that 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Chuck Hogg]

This is water under the bridge at this point, many people were posting on
the lists about this...you realize being multi-homed is pretty simple to
satisfy ARIN?

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> They wouldn’t give me any for starting out since I wasn’t multi-homed.
>
>
>
> I think all of you must have been requesting on an existing ISP that had
> allocation.
>
>
>
> For new ISPs it’s impossible.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Yeah, I got several allocations up to like 4 or 5 months ago when they
> depleted. If you started in 2013 you dropped the ball, you could have had
> 50,000 ip's by now.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.
>
>
>
> So I guess that’s not the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:25 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> http://bgp.he.net/AS394752
>
> You don't seem to be advertising anything.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> --
>
> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:00:22 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
> My ASN is 394752 the data center upstream ASN is 11798.
>
>
>
> I’m still not sure this isn’t that new world wide problem of forcing DNS
> redirection in routers running parental filtering.
>
>
>
> One instance of this was a customer running filtering on their router, but
> they said they turned it off and it still has the same Netflix message.
>
>
>
> I’ll try emailing their NOC and see if I receive anything intelligent.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> What is you ASN ? I will be more than happy to check if I see anything odd.
>
>
> Also, Netflix has different IP's in different parts of the country they
> use for sending the video streams.
>
> We typically don't see the same prefix advertised by them via different
> pops they have.
>
>
>
> Plus, not sure if you already got hold of them... you can reach them via
> email to their NOC cdnet...@netflix.com
>
>
>
> If you give a shout out them on Nanog mailing list, you are very likely to
> get a fairly prompt response from their technical team.
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:49:50 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
> It may be that.
>
>
>
> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>
> They are my upstream provider.
>
> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>
>
>
> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
> time.
>
>
>
> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
> from?  That may be part of the story.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>
>
>
> So they have wrongly allocated or 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Ken Hohhof]

Oops.
Still not Powerball money.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

255 * 10 is $2.5k

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 20, 2016 9:57 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

  That sounds like a lot to the buyer.

  But I have a customer sitting on a pre-ARIN /24 (not sure if those can be 
sold the same way), but I wouldn’t even suggest he sell it for $200.  Not worth 
the time and trouble.  It’s like the people who email me offering $150 for a 4 
letter domain I own, ignore the fact I wouldn’t sell it for less than $10K, why 
would I even spend my time on the paperwork for that little money?  I assume 
the brokers take their cut as well.


  From: Paul Stewart 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:52 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

  There’s lots of companies doing this… perhaps too many …



  At NANOG in Montreal I was tracked down by their “sales vultures” from 
several companies where they told me I “must” purchase IP blocks from them .. I 
kind of chuckled and politely told them where to fly to .. 



  $6-$8 per IP address is what I’m hearing/seeing .. 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix



  isnt there an exchange now where people can sell their IP4 for small rapes?



  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

I got a v4 block in May 2015...






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

  Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.



  But I can’t.



  ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

  I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

  I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.



  I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

  But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some 
foreign country, lol!



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix



  Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take 
your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. >From 
Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are 
more likely to contain VPN endpoints.

  I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.



  On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

It may be that.



I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.



I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a 
year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same 
time.



All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer 
have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix



If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks 
from?  That may be part of the story.



From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix



Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.



So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.



Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.



I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream 
and details.



Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.



Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.



So I’m stuck without their help.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Chuck Hogg]

Um, you waited basically until after depletion?  Why would you do that?

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:12 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Lucky you.
>
>
>
> Here is what they told me on Oct 30 2015.
>
>
>
> And the ticket is still pending, meaning I’m on a wait list I guess, but
> no end in sight.
>
> --
>
> ARIN has reached full IPv4 depletion. There are currently no IPv4 blocks
> available to fill your request. You can find more detailed information
> about IPv4 depletion at the URL below:
>
>
>
> https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_countdown.html
>
>
>
> If our review of your request finds a justified need for an IPv4 block,
> you will be offered the option to be added to ARIN's IPv4 Waiting List. You
> can find more information about the IPv4 Waiting List at the URL below:
>
>
>
> https://www.arin.net/resources/request/waiting_list.html
>
>
>
> If you plan to deploy IPv6, you have the option to submit a separate
> request for an IPv4 /24 every six months from a block specifically reserved
> to facilitate IPv6 deployment. You can find more information about this
> special policy at the URL below:
>
>
>
> https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four10
>
>
>
> If you plan to request IPv4 addresses via an 8.3 Specified Recipient
> Transfer or 8.4 Inter-RIR transfer you have the option to request a
> pre-approval for up to a 24-month supply of IPv4 addresses. To request a
> pre-approval, follow the instructions at the URL below:
>
>
>
> https://www.arin.net/resources/transfers/preapproval.html
>
>
>
> Note that while you can opt to go on the IPv4 Waiting List and receive a
> pre-approval, you will be removed from the waiting list if you use your
> pre-approval to receive IPv4 addresses via transfer.
>
>
>
> Please provide the following information to help us evaluate your request.
> If you have any questions about the requested items, please contact ARIN's
> Registration Services Help Desk at 703-227-0660. Note that due to the
> processes and procedures in place for IPv4 depletion, our response time to
> IPv4 requests is currently three to five business days rather than our
> published time of two business days.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:05 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Filled out a request.  Got it in a few days iirc
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 20, 2016 1:03 AM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:
>
> How?
>
>
>
> I asked ARIN if I could TRANSITION my current allocation from my current
> provider and they denied.
>
>
>
> So it wasn’t even for a new block, just to ‘move’ off the current one.
>
>
>
> Same thing in reality though since the data center wasn’t likely to return
> those IPs to anyone anyways.
>
>
>
> This was maybe October last year.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> I got a v4 block in May 2015...
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>
>
>
> But I can’t.
>
>
>
> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
> no way to obtain it.
>
> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>
> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>
>
>
> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>
> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
> foreign country, lol!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>
> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> It may be that.
>
>
>
> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>
> They are my upstream provider.
>
> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>
>
>
> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
> time.
>
>
>
> All of those 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Chuck Hogg]

We got blocks too...

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> How?
>
>
>
> I asked ARIN if I could TRANSITION my current allocation from my current
> provider and they denied.
>
>
>
> So it wasn’t even for a new block, just to ‘move’ off the current one.
>
>
>
> Same thing in reality though since the data center wasn’t likely to return
> those IPs to anyone anyways.
>
>
>
> This was maybe October last year.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:01 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> I got a v4 block in May 2015...
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>
>
>
> But I can’t.
>
>
>
> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
> no way to obtain it.
>
> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>
> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>
>
>
> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>
> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
> foreign country, lol!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>
> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> It may be that.
>
>
>
> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>
> They are my upstream provider.
>
> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>
>
>
> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
> time.
>
>
>
> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
> from?  That may be part of the story.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>
>
>
> So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.
>
>
>
> Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?
>
> Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.
>
>
>
> I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and
> details.
>
>
>
> Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.
>
>
>
> Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.
>
> I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.
>
>
>
> So I’m stuck without their help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *timothy steele
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget
> over a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there
> telling you nothing they can do to help there telling the truth
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your
> users are having issues watching content
>
> On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> Try NANOG?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 19, 2016 8:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:
>
> Anyone else start getting these calls today?
>
> My personal Netflix, on the same public IP block, seems to still work.
>
> But several of my customers are now calling in saying their Netflix is
> VPN, Proxy or using an Unblocker.
>
> Netflix is denying any sort of fix or solution for these customers,
> blaming it on the ISP.
>
> I'm 

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i Sectors

[Daniel White]

What frequency?

My 3.65GHz customers have used Alpha Wireless antennas - specifically the 
AW3015.  If you want to purchase the 4x4 MIMO capability for future 
use/upgradeability the AW3035.

Alpha is the OEM for Telrad and Airspan sectors.  They also have nice 2x2 and 
4x4 MIMO options for 33, 65, 120, and Omni antennas.

For 5GHz and 2GHz the Cambium sector deployed using the 6dB rolloff has been 
popular enough.  I can't recommend anything necessarily here.

Thank you,

Daniel White
afmu...@gmail.com
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn: Twitter


> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:18 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] PMP450i Sectors
>
> What is everyone using for PMP450i 90 degree sectors that allow ABAB
> deployment?


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Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Sterling Jacobson]

Netflix said they fixed it this morning.

Waiting to hear back from customers.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Sterling, there is another way...

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?
Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and 
details.

Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.

Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.
I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.

So I’m stuck without their help.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix


Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget over 
a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there telling you 
nothing they can do to help there telling the truth

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:

Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your users 
are having issues watching content
On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:

Try NANOG?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 19, 2016 8:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
> wrote:
Anyone else start getting these calls today?

My personal Netflix, on the same public IP block, seems to still work.

But several of my customers are now calling in saying their Netflix is VPN, 
Proxy or using an Unblocker.

Netflix is denying any sort of fix or solution for these customers, blaming it 
on the ISP.

I'm sick of this crap.

The customers don't care, they will just drop the ISP and get another, probably 
with IP blocks that aren't 'blacklisted' as VPN, or going through a datacenter.

I had the same problem with Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com Disney.com and several others.

Fortunately, all of those companies, except Vudu, fixed my problem by 
whitelisting my IPs.

Vudu took a long time but I think I finally got a hold of the correct team of 
engineers and they fixed it.

On the phone now with Netflix rep and one of her first questions was, "What is 
a public IP block?"

:(

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Ken Hohhof]

I wonder if Frontier’s acquisitions from Verizon and AT came with IP space.

The other day, I was thinking about the fact that they have been paying 
something like $2000 per customer, and then complaining they need CAF subsidies 
because it is too expensive to serve these customers.  Well, duh, maybe you 
paid too much?

If Verizon and AT were losing money on these customers, and big capital 
expenditures were needed to upgrade infrastructure, why is the selling price so 
high?  And not closer to free if you take this money pit off my hands?

It seems like future government subsidies are built into the valuation.  Of 
course, we know what Verizon and AT need the money for ... to buy more 
wireless spectrum at government auctions.


From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Definitely have seen a lot of valuation in companies recently due to their IP 
space – in fact I’ve seen several companies that got bought only for their IP 
space in the past while (the company wasn’t in good shape but had large blocks 
of IP’s included).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

So if you’re looking to sell your WISP, make sure to value your IPs 
accordingly.. Or don’t include them as part of the sale, hold onto them for a 
few years while they go up in value and sell them later?  Might be better 
returns than your IRA :)

 

Interesting fact, Charter sold a local cable plant to TDS and TDS in taking 
over had to bring their own IPs. The sale of the customers and assets did NOT 
include the IPs. 

 

-c

 

  On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:

   

  http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

   

  .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

   

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting 
theirs. $10/ip

On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

  Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

   

  But I can’t.

   

  ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

  I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

  I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

   

  I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

  But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some 
foreign country, lol!

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take 
your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. >From 
Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are 
more likely to contain VPN endpoints.

  I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

   

  On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a 
year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same 
time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer 
have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks 
from?  That may be part of the story.

 

From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

 

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

 

Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

 

I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream 
and details.

 

Hopefully they pull their heads 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Chuck McCown]

The FCC is fixin’ to do some drastic cutting of corporate welfare.  There is a 
“bifurcation” order expected any day now drawing a line in the sand.  Any 
investment prior to a certain date will be supported until the asset is fully 
depreciated.  Any future investment will be supported under new rules that are 
not nearly as generous.  Eventually the dole will be eliminated for almost all 
telcos.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

I wonder if Frontier’s acquisitions from Verizon and AT came with IP space.

The other day, I was thinking about the fact that they have been paying 
something like $2000 per customer, and then complaining they need CAF subsidies 
because it is too expensive to serve these customers.  Well, duh, maybe you 
paid too much?

If Verizon and AT were losing money on these customers, and big capital 
expenditures were needed to upgrade infrastructure, why is the selling price so 
high?  And not closer to free if you take this money pit off my hands?

It seems like future government subsidies are built into the valuation.  Of 
course, we know what Verizon and AT need the money for ... to buy more 
wireless spectrum at government auctions.


From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Definitely have seen a lot of valuation in companies recently due to their IP 
space – in fact I’ve seen several companies that got bought only for their IP 
space in the past while (the company wasn’t in good shape but had large blocks 
of IP’s included).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

So if you’re looking to sell your WISP, make sure to value your IPs 
accordingly.. Or don’t include them as part of the sale, hold onto them for a 
few years while they go up in value and sell them later?  Might be better 
returns than your IRA :)

 

Interesting fact, Charter sold a local cable plant to TDS and TDS in taking 
over had to bring their own IPs. The sale of the customers and assets did NOT 
include the IPs. 

 

-c

 

  On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:

   

  http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

   

  .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

   

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting 
theirs. $10/ip

On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

  Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

   

  But I can’t.

   

  ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

  I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

  I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

   

  I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

  But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some 
foreign country, lol!

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take 
your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. >From 
Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are 
more likely to contain VPN endpoints.

  I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

   

  On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a 
year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same 
time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer 
have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks 
from?  That may be part of the story.

 

From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Tuesday, 

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Luthman]

CPU and memory are obviously tied together.  I believe the rate at which
the gate is opened/closed was sped up to fix the issue.

I also don't think CPU/memory are limiting factors on the radios to begin
with...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
 wrote:

> Josh,
>
>
>
> I heard cpu clock is being messed with.  (you know … rumors)
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
> *prohibited.*
>
>
>
> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the
> bad ePMP units.
>
>
>
> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc  wrote:
>
> Hello Cambium,
>
>
>
> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
> the spectrum.
>
> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
> available to fix this short term.
>
> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
> it.
>
>
>
> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of
> the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>
>
>
> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
> public.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
> Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
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>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

good luck over there man, its a minefield

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> My next stop is ubnt forums or support
> This lady is not happy...
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
> Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM
>
> IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC address.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other tickbox
>> are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as
>>> 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group  ; af@afmug.com ;
>>> memb...@wispa.org
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
>>> *Subject:* weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>>>
>>>
>>> as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
>>> today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
>>> investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point setup
>>> as an ap-repeater.
>>> This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming it's
>>> firmware related or perhaps
>>> something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had to
>>> update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)
>>>
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we also
>>> noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address
>>> of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.
>>>
>>> I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not change
>>> access to the radio.
>>>
>>> I can not access the radio although it shows connected.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Ken Hohhof]

I thought everyone, question is how often, and whether you’re on latest FW and 
has that reduced it.  I think it’s a once or twice a month type of thing.

George has mentioned it in several posts I think.


From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with 450?

So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?

Mark

  On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan  wrote:

  I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog 
Resets.  
  Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/


  On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 wrote:

  Hello Cambium,


   
  At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was 
very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the 
spectrum. 

  We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to 
fix this short term.

  The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
it.  


   
  Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance 
of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would 
prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.


   
  If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 


   
  Thank you,


   
  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net 


   
  

  What can ICI do for you? 


  Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Space X

[Bill Prince]

I remember it too. Radio, Newspaper, TV. It was all over the media of 
the day.


bp


On 1/20/2016 6:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I clearly remember the original Apollo 13.
On newspapers...

-Original Message- From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Space X

I'm thinking that poor Ken didn't realize that it was only 10 or 15
years ago.

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

holy shit, its been 20 years? I had to IMDB that to verify this.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


Too young to have seen Apollo 13? Oh man, that was out 20 years ago.

Ken Hohhof wrote:

We seem to be living in negative times ... if you believe the
presidential debates.  It�s a mess, it�s a disaster, the
barbarians are at the door, so elect me.
BTW, if anyone is too young to have ever seen the movie Apollo
13, watch it.  I love the part with Marilyn Lovell ordering
the reporters off her lawn who couldn�t even be bothered to
cover the mission until it turned into a potential disaster. 
�Those people don�t put one piece of equipment on my

lawn.  If they have a problem with that, they can take it up
with my husband ... he�ll be home Friday.�  Movie has more
great quotes than you can shake a stick at.
*From:* Joe Falaschi >
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:59 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com  >
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Space X
Humans think negative more than positive.  I saw this yesterday:

http://blog.eosworldwide.com/blog/180-rule-creative-problem-solving#axzz3xhrPypBF 


and it seems to fit...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201406/are-we-hardwired-be-positive-or-negative 



On Jan 19, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

It does seem to me that people started out focusing on the
successes at NASA and ended up focusing only on the
failures, now the cycle is starting over with private
enterprise.
I don�t like the way people universally started to talk
about the Space Shuttle like some enormous failure to be
mocked.  NASA and their contractors were told to build a
reusable space truck for delivering stuff to orbit, and
that�s what they built.  At the beginning people ignored
the risks and marveled at the successes. Then there were
some failures, and eventually no one cared about the
successes, it wasn�t new and shiny.
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Space X
I still think NASA should have been revamped. Private
entities should foot the bill for all failures, paid only
upon success.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Lewis Bergman

>> wrote:

Agreed, I am still amazed they can hit the damn ship
without
crashing it into it.


On Mon, Jan 18, 2016, 10:34 AM Josh Reynolds

>> wrote:

The speed at which they are progressing is
astounding. They
are doing
some truly amazing things.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Jason McKemie

>> wrote:
> Yeah, I was watching that live. They lost
satellite uplink
to the ship right
> before they landed it unfortunately.
Disappointing to see
they had more
> problems. The seas were apparently pretty rough
and they
mentioned that ice
> on the pad could have been a factor. Still, a 
pretty

amazing feat.
>
>
> On Monday, January 18, 2016, Chuck McCown
  

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Baird]

I just did.  Hopefully it stabilizes things.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Have you put the RC firmware on it?
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> This is the only AP on the site that is having problems.  All cable runs
>> are the same (~200ft).
>>
>> It has also worked for months up until today.  This problem has suffered
>> the management loss/cold temperature problems as well.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Long power run?  Is it possible you're losing 6v?  The radio stops
>>> booting at 20v.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah yeah :)

 So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE
 Injector providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Just teasing...
>
> *From:* Josh Baird 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP
> units.
>
> There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some*
> issues.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!
>>
>> (That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the
>> first week of operation).
>>
>> *From:* Josh Baird 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP
>> units.
>>
>> Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites
>> is having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one 
>> AP.
>> We are going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that
>> brings it back to life.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
>> Communications Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Cambium,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana
>>> WISPs compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with
>>> ePMPs.  It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical
>>> problems across the spectrum.
>>>
>>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
>>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
>>> available to fix this short term.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing
>>> with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the
>>> performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been
>>> suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement program
>>> immediately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance
>>> is inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be 
>>> made
>>> public.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
>>> Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>>> *prohibited.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


>>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Mikrotik PPPoE IPv6 and Radius

[Matt]

Has anyone setup freeRadius etc to work with a Mikrotik PPPoE server
and hand out dual stack IPv4 and IPv6 address space?

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Ken Hohhof]

Silent reset?
How do you know, if it’s silent?

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

I have a handful (3.6, 5.4/5.7 and the one lonely 2.4 AP) seeing watchdog 
resets. Almost everything is on 13.2.1. I'm testing 13.4 official on our NOC 
5.4 omni and it has been stack dumping and seeing considerably more silent 
resets the last few weeks while it has been pretty cold. It reset 4 or 5 times 
yesterday. The other pattern I've noticed is that the APs with more traffic 
load seem to reset more often.

I haven't seen many stack dumps out of 13.2.1, so that's where I'm staying for 
now. I'll probably downgrade the NOC AP and see what that does because it's 
getting ridiculous. My guess is it's still going to see the silent resets.


On 1/20/2016 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

  Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with 
450?

  So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?

  Mark

On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan  
wrote:

I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog 
Resets.  
Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/


On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications 
Inc  wrote:

Hello Cambium,


 
At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was 
very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the 
spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to 
fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing 
with it.  


 
Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance 
of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would 
prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.


 
If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 


 
Thank you,


 
Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 


 


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Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Ken Hohhof]

Is that what this article is about?  Something about USTelecom and an FCC 
December forbearance decision regarding USF.  I wasn’t able to decipher the 
lingo:

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/frontier-says-it-costs-over-1b-carriers-provide-rural-voice-services/2016-01-15


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

The FCC is fixin’ to do some drastic cutting of corporate welfare.  There is a 
“bifurcation” order expected any day now drawing a line in the sand.  Any 
investment prior to a certain date will be supported until the asset is fully 
depreciated.  Any future investment will be supported under new rules that are 
not nearly as generous.  Eventually the dole will be eliminated for almost all 
telcos.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

I wonder if Frontier’s acquisitions from Verizon and AT came with IP space.

The other day, I was thinking about the fact that they have been paying 
something like $2000 per customer, and then complaining they need CAF subsidies 
because it is too expensive to serve these customers.  Well, duh, maybe you 
paid too much?

If Verizon and AT were losing money on these customers, and big capital 
expenditures were needed to upgrade infrastructure, why is the selling price so 
high?  And not closer to free if you take this money pit off my hands?

It seems like future government subsidies are built into the valuation.  Of 
course, we know what Verizon and AT need the money for ... to buy more 
wireless spectrum at government auctions.


From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Definitely have seen a lot of valuation in companies recently due to their IP 
space – in fact I’ve seen several companies that got bought only for their IP 
space in the past while (the company wasn’t in good shape but had large blocks 
of IP’s included).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

So if you’re looking to sell your WISP, make sure to value your IPs 
accordingly.. Or don’t include them as part of the sale, hold onto them for a 
few years while they go up in value and sell them later?  Might be better 
returns than your IRA :)

 

Interesting fact, Charter sold a local cable plant to TDS and TDS in taking 
over had to bring their own IPs. The sale of the customers and assets did NOT 
include the IPs. 

 

-c

 

  On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:

   

  http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

   

  .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

   

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting 
theirs. $10/ip

On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

  Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

   

  But I can’t.

   

  ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

  I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

  I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

   

  I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

  But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some 
foreign country, lol!

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take 
your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. >From 
Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are 
more likely to contain VPN endpoints.

  I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

   

  On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a 
year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same 
time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer 
have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

   

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Mark Radabaugh]

Your going to see a lot more with the new software- stay with 13.2.1 for now, 
and it gets FAR worse in cold weather.

Mark

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 2:40 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> I have a handful (3.6, 5.4/5.7 and the one lonely 2.4 AP) seeing watchdog 
> resets. Almost everything is on 13.2.1. I'm testing 13.4 official on our NOC 
> 5.4 omni and it has been stack dumping and seeing considerably more silent 
> resets the last few weeks while it has been pretty cold. It reset 4 or 5 
> times yesterday. The other pattern I've noticed is that the APs with more 
> traffic load seem to reset more often.
> 
> I haven't seen many stack dumps out of 13.2.1, so that's where I'm staying 
> for now. I'll probably downgrade the NOC AP and see what that does because 
> it's getting ridiculous. My guess is it's still going to see the silent 
> resets.
> 
> On 1/20/2016 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to with 
>> 450?
>> 
>> So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan < 
>>> installe...@foxvalley.net 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from Watchdog 
>>> Resets.  
>>> Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/
>>> 
>>> On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications 
 Inc > wrote:
 Hello Cambium,
 
  
 At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
 compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  
 It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems 
 across the spectrum.
 
 We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
 identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made 
 available to fix this short term.
 
 The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
 it. 
 
  
 Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of 
 the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would 
 prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
 
  
 If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
 inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made 
 public. 
 
  
 Thank you,
 
  
 Tyson Burris, President 
 Internet Communications Inc. 
 739 Commerce Dr. 
 Franklin, IN 46131 
   
 317-738-0320  Daytime # 
 317-412-1540  Cell/Direct # 
 Online: www.surfici.net 
  
 
 
 What can ICI do for you?
 
 
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>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[Mathew Howard]

sounds to me like transparent bridging isn't working right on the client...
there may be something different with how it's handled on the newer
firmware. Did you try switching the AP to access point and enabling
WDS/transparent bridge instead of using AP-Repeater?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> good luck over there man, its a minefield
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> My next stop is ubnt forums or support
>> This lady is not happy...
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
>> Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM
>>
>> IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC address.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other tickbox
>>> are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>

 here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as
 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106


 - Original Message -
 *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group  ; af@afmug.com ;
 memb...@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
 *Subject:* weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


 as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
 today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
 investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point
 setup as an ap-repeater.
 This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming it's
 firmware related or perhaps
 something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had to
 update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)

 suggestions?



 we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we also
 noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address
 of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.

 I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not change
 access to the radio.

 I can not access the radio although it shows connected.




>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Baird]

This is the only AP on the site that is having problems.  All cable runs
are the same (~200ft).

It has also worked for months up until today.  This problem has suffered
the management loss/cold temperature problems as well.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Long power run?  Is it possible you're losing 6v?  The radio stops booting
> at 20v.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>> Yeah yeah :)
>>
>> So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE
>> Injector providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Just teasing...
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Baird 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP
>>> units.
>>>
>>> There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some*
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

 (That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the
 first week of operation).

 *From:* Josh Baird 
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP
 units.

 Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites
 is having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.
 We are going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that
 brings it back to life.

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
 Inc  wrote:

> Hello Cambium,
>
>
>
> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  
> It
> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
> the spectrum.
>
> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
> available to fix this short term.
>
> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing
> with it.
>
>
>
> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the
> performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been
> suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement program
> immediately.
>
>
>
> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
> public.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Mathew Howard]

Have you put the RC firmware on it?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> This is the only AP on the site that is having problems.  All cable runs
> are the same (~200ft).
>
> It has also worked for months up until today.  This problem has suffered
> the management loss/cold temperature problems as well.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Long power run?  Is it possible you're losing 6v?  The radio stops
>> booting at 20v.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah yeah :)
>>>
>>> So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE
>>> Injector providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Just teasing...

 *From:* Josh Baird 
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP
 units.

 There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some*
 issues.

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!
>
> (That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the
> first week of operation).
>
> *From:* Josh Baird 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP
> units.
>
> Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites
> is having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.
> We are going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that
> brings it back to life.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
> Communications Inc  wrote:
>
>> Hello Cambium,
>>
>>
>>
>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana
>> WISPs compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with
>> ePMPs.  It was very interesting to learn we are experience identical
>> problems across the spectrum.
>>
>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
>> available to fix this short term.
>>
>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing
>> with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the
>> performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been
>> suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement program
>> immediately.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance
>> is inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be 
>> made
>> public.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Yes! Same here.  Packet Flux to brick on some sites…almost like a negotiation 
issue when it gets cold.  Cable length isn’t a factor.

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Yeah yeah :)

 

So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE Injector 
providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:

Just teasing...

 

From: Josh Baird   

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:

Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

 

(That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first week 
of operation).

 

From: Josh Baird   

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is having 
issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are going 
to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it back to 
life.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:   www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Simon Westlake]

Because I might not have access to SSH/CLI on that RADIUS server if it's 
not a server I control. I'm trying to find a way that isn't reliant on 
Mikrotik as the NAS, seems like the disconnect packet is the right way. 
Looks like maybe it can be done using unlang or the rlm_perl/python 
modules to trigger based on some other event though.. still messing with it.


On 1/20/2016 1:45 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Why wouldn't it come from the radius you configured? Or why not add 
another ip as another radius that only accepts incoming requests if 
you don't want to use the regular radius? Alternatively, it can be 
done through cli on ssh or through the API.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


Hmm, well after playing with it, it seems that Mikrotik doesn't
like the incoming RADIUS commands being sent unless it originates
from the RADIUS server it is configured to use, which makes life
difficult. Is this the solution everyone here is using to force a
refresh of attributes?

On 1/20/2016 12:52 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

That certainly sounds like the best solution. Thanks!

On 1/20/2016 12:48 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

PPPOE can be dropped with an incoming radius command.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

How are you handling changes to your services today if
you're using PPPoE?

For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific
attributes to set their speed, or IP address, or whether
they should be redirected to a splash page. If you change
one of these attributes, what is your current strategy for
forcing a re-auth to update the attributes? Seems like it is
pretty easy while you're on the phone with a customer to
either login to your own gear and reauth the session, or
tell them to reboot their router, or whatever their
authenticated device is. But if they are disabled and they
make a payment on a splash page, it seems like it would be
likely to generate a service call if the splash page tried
telling them to do something like reboot their router or radio.

-- 
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Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software 
Phone: (702) 447-1247 
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-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247 
---
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247 
---
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Ken Hohhof]

Did Cambium say they are making the memory faster?  I assumed the firmware fix 
adjusted something like wait states to accommodate the memory being faster or 
slower when cold.  I know I’m slower when cold, I’m not sure about DRAM, maybe 
it’s the opposite.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:49 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

It doesn't make any sense to me that it would... I certainly haven't seen any 
difference in performance, and every AP that I've put the RC firmware on has 
been perfectly stable.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?



  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 wrote:

Hello Cambium,



At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs 
compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was 
very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the 
spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have 
identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to 
fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with 
it.  



Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of 
the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer 
a full recall and replacement program immediately.



If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 



Thank you,



Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 





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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Josh,

 

I heard cpu clock is being messed with.  (you know … rumors)

 

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From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: memb...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad 
ePMP units.

 

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:   www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Mathew Howard]

All I heard was that they made timing adjustments... I didn't ask for
details.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Did Cambium say they are making the memory faster?  I assumed the firmware
> fix adjusted something like wait states to accommodate the memory being
> faster or slower when cold.  I know I’m slower when cold, I’m not sure
> about DRAM, maybe it’s the opposite.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.
>
> It doesn't make any sense to me that it would... I certainly haven't seen
> any difference in performance, and every AP that I've put the RC firmware
> on has been perfectly stable.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>> Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Cambium,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
>>> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
>>> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
>>> the spectrum.
>>>
>>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
>>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
>>> available to fix this short term.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance
>>> of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
>>> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
>>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
>>> public.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Baird]

Yeah yeah :)

So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE
Injector providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Just teasing...
>
> *From:* Josh Baird 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.
>
> There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some*
> issues.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!
>>
>> (That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first
>> week of operation).
>>
>> *From:* Josh Baird 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.
>>
>> Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is
>> having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We
>> are going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that
>> brings it back to life.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>> Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Cambium,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
>>> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
>>> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
>>> the spectrum.
>>>
>>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
>>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
>>> available to fix this short term.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance
>>> of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
>>> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
>>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
>>> public.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[George Skorup]

I have a handful (3.6, 5.4/5.7 and the one lonely 2.4 AP) seeing 
watchdog resets. Almost everything is on 13.2.1. I'm testing 13.4 
official on our NOC 5.4 omni and it has been stack dumping and seeing 
considerably more silent resets the last few weeks while it has been 
pretty cold. It reset 4 or 5 times yesterday. The other pattern I've 
noticed is that the APs with more traffic load seem to reset more often.


I haven't seen many stack dumps out of 13.2.1, so that's where I'm 
staying for now. I'll probably downgrade the NOC AP and see what that 
does because it's getting ridiculous. My guess is it's still going to 
see the silent resets.


On 1/20/2016 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to 
with 450?


So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?

Mark

On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan 
> wrote:


I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from 
Watchdog Resets.

Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/

On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc  wrote:


Hello Cambium,


At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana
WISPs compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are
seeing with ePMPs.  It was very interesting to learn we are
experience identical problems across the spectrum.

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you
have identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has
been made available to fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of
dealing with it.


Our concern is simple. If your software fix ‘degrades’ the
performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it has
been suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement
program immediately.


If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product
performance is inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would
like for this to be made public.


Thank you,


*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net* 




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Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Chuck McCown]

No this forbearance issue is tied to the larger carriers wanting to discontinue 
service to the remote and hard to reach areas.  Larger carriers – price cap 
carriers- don’t get as much welfare as the smaller carriers – rate of return- 
carriers.  Price caps have less regulation and more freedom to set rates as 
long as they stay under their price caps.  Verizon wanted to totally abandon 
areas that were ruined by storm flooding and the FCC said they still have a 
“duty to serve” as a “common carrier”.  

Frontier is kinda between the big price cap companies and the smaller ROR 
companies.  They asked for permission to skip over some of the harder to reach 
areas with improvements.  FCC said no.  

Almost all telcos would like to be released from the duty to provide dialtone.  
It makes our product more expensive when we have to bundle it with POTS 
service.  The day will come when we can, but that day is not here yet.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Is that what this article is about?  Something about USTelecom and an FCC 
December forbearance decision regarding USF.  I wasn’t able to decipher the 
lingo:

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/frontier-says-it-costs-over-1b-carriers-provide-rural-voice-services/2016-01-15


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

The FCC is fixin’ to do some drastic cutting of corporate welfare.  There is a 
“bifurcation” order expected any day now drawing a line in the sand.  Any 
investment prior to a certain date will be supported until the asset is fully 
depreciated.  Any future investment will be supported under new rules that are 
not nearly as generous.  Eventually the dole will be eliminated for almost all 
telcos.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

I wonder if Frontier’s acquisitions from Verizon and AT came with IP space.

The other day, I was thinking about the fact that they have been paying 
something like $2000 per customer, and then complaining they need CAF subsidies 
because it is too expensive to serve these customers.  Well, duh, maybe you 
paid too much?

If Verizon and AT were losing money on these customers, and big capital 
expenditures were needed to upgrade infrastructure, why is the selling price so 
high?  And not closer to free if you take this money pit off my hands?

It seems like future government subsidies are built into the valuation.  Of 
course, we know what Verizon and AT need the money for ... to buy more 
wireless spectrum at government auctions.


From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Definitely have seen a lot of valuation in companies recently due to their IP 
space – in fact I’ve seen several companies that got bought only for their IP 
space in the past while (the company wasn’t in good shape but had large blocks 
of IP’s included).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

So if you’re looking to sell your WISP, make sure to value your IPs 
accordingly.. Or don’t include them as part of the sale, hold onto them for a 
few years while they go up in value and sell them later?  Might be better 
returns than your IRA :)

 

Interesting fact, Charter sold a local cable plant to TDS and TDS in taking 
over had to bring their own IPs. The sale of the customers and assets did NOT 
include the IPs. 

 

-c

 

  On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:

   

  http://www.ipv4auctions.com/

   

  .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.

   

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting 
theirs. $10/ip

On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson"  wrote:

  Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

   

  But I can’t.

   

  ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

  I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

  I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

   

  I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

  But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some 
foreign country, lol!

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Chuck Hogg]

Yea, AT got deregulated in the state of KY.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/ky-legislature/2015/03/02/att-bill-final-passage/24287265/

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> No this forbearance issue is tied to the larger carriers wanting to
> discontinue service to the remote and hard to reach areas.  Larger carriers
> – price cap carriers- don’t get as much welfare as the smaller carriers –
> rate of return- carriers.  Price caps have less regulation and more freedom
> to set rates as long as they stay under their price caps.  Verizon wanted
> to totally abandon areas that were ruined by storm flooding and the FCC
> said they still have a “duty to serve” as a “common carrier”.
>
> Frontier is kinda between the big price cap companies and the smaller ROR
> companies.  They asked for permission to skip over some of the harder to
> reach areas with improvements.  FCC said no.
>
> Almost all telcos would like to be released from the duty to provide
> dialtone.  It makes our product more expensive when we have to bundle it
> with POTS service.  The day will come when we can, but that day is not here
> yet.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
> Is that what this article is about?  Something about USTelecom and an FCC
> December forbearance decision regarding USF.  I wasn’t able to decipher the
> lingo:
>
>
> http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/frontier-says-it-costs-over-1b-carriers-provide-rural-voice-services/2016-01-15
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:20 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
> The FCC is fixin’ to do some drastic cutting of corporate welfare.  There
> is a “bifurcation” order expected any day now drawing a line in the sand.
> Any investment prior to a certain date will be supported until the asset is
> fully depreciated.  Any future investment will be supported under new rules
> that are not nearly as generous.  Eventually the dole will be eliminated
> for almost all telcos.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:16 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
> I wonder if Frontier’s acquisitions from Verizon and AT came with IP
> space.
>
> The other day, I was thinking about the fact that they have been paying
> something like $2000 per customer, and then complaining they need CAF
> subsidies because it is too expensive to serve these customers.  Well, duh,
> maybe you paid too much?
>
> If Verizon and AT were losing money on these customers, and big capital
> expenditures were needed to upgrade infrastructure, why is the selling
> price so high?  And not closer to free if you take this money pit off my
> hands?
>
> It seems like future government subsidies are built into the valuation.
> Of course, we know what Verizon and AT need the money for ... to buy more
> wireless spectrum at government auctions.
>
>
> *From:* Paul Stewart 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
> Definitely have seen a lot of valuation in companies recently due to their
> IP space – in fact I’ve seen several companies that got bought only for
> their IP space in the past while (the company wasn’t in good shape but had
> large blocks of IP’s included).
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Cassidy B. Larson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:16 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> So if you’re looking to sell your WISP, make sure to value your IPs
> accordingly.. Or don’t include them as part of the sale, hold onto them for
> a few years while they go up in value and sell them later?  Might be better
> returns than your IRA :)
>
>
>
> Interesting fact, Charter sold a local cable plant to TDS and TDS in
> taking over had to bring their own IPs. The sale of the customers and
> assets did NOT include the IPs.
>
>
>
> -c
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/
>
>
>
> .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting
> theirs. $10/ip
>
> On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>
>
>
> But I can’t.
>
>
>
> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Ken Hohhof]

I miscalculated, but even at $2K, I think he would keep it for bragging rights. 
 Like an astronaut with a moon rock to impress his kids.  When he dies, though, 
the kids will probably sell it off in a heartbeat.  A piece of early Internet 
history has no sentimental value for them.

Strange you don’t see IP space on eBay and Craigs List.


From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Yeah but they are not interested so much in /24’s as you mention … 
time/effort/paperwork etc isn’t worth it possibly although current rates would 
value it at $2k or so J

 

It’s larger blocks such as /16 and /17 blocks where they get excited .. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

That sounds like a lot to the buyer.

 

But I have a customer sitting on a pre-ARIN /24 (not sure if those can be sold 
the same way), but I wouldn’t even suggest he sell it for $200.  Not worth the 
time and trouble.  It’s like the people who email me offering $150 for a 4 
letter domain I own, ignore the fact I wouldn’t sell it for less than $10K, why 
would I even spend my time on the paperwork for that little money?  I assume 
the brokers take their cut as well.

 

 

From: Paul Stewart 

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:52 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

There’s lots of companies doing this… perhaps too many …

 

At NANOG in Montreal I was tracked down by their “sales vultures” from several 
companies where they told me I “must” purchase IP blocks from them .. I kind of 
chuckled and politely told them where to fly to .. 

 

$6-$8 per IP address is what I’m hearing/seeing .. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

isnt there an exchange now where people can sell their IP4 for small rapes?

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  I got a v4 block in May 2015...




   

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.

 

But I can’t.

 

ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was 
no way to obtain it.

I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much 
as possible to avoid crap like this.

I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.

 

I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. >From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

  It may be that.

   

  I get my IPv4 from a data center.

  They are my upstream provider.

  The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

   

  I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a 
year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same 
time.

   

  All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer 
have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks 
from?  That may be part of the story.

   

  From: Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

   

  Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

   

  So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

   

  Doesn’t that break net 

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Josh Luthman]

Long power run?  Is it possible you're losing 6v?  The radio stops booting
at 20v.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> Yeah yeah :)
>
> So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE
> Injector providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Just teasing...
>>
>> *From:* Josh Baird 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.
>>
>> There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some*
>> issues.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!
>>>
>>> (That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the
>>> first week of operation).
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Baird 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP
>>> units.
>>>
>>> Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is
>>> having issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We
>>> are going to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that
>>> brings it back to life.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>>> Inc  wrote:
>>>
 Hello Cambium,



 At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
 compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
 was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
 the spectrum.

 We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
 identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
 available to fix this short term.

 The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing
 with it.



 Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance
 of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
 prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.



 If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
 inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
 public.



 Thank you,



 *Tyson Burris, President*
 *Internet Communications Inc.*
 *739 Commerce Dr.*
 *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
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>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Mathew Howard]

I can't imagine a minor change in CPU/memory performance is going to have
any real effect on throughput... if it was a huge change, maybe, but I
don't believe that's the case.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> CPU and memory are obviously tied together.  I believe the rate at which
> the gate is opened/closed was sped up to fix the issue.
>
> I also don't think CPU/memory are limiting factors on the radios to begin
> with...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
> Inc  wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>>
>>
>> I heard cpu clock is being messed with.  (you know … rumors)
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ICI]
>>
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>>
>>
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>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:11 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace
>> the bad ePMP units.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>> Inc  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Cambium,
>>
>>
>>
>> At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs
>> compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It
>> was very interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across
>> the spectrum.
>>
>> We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have
>> identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has been made
>> available to fix this short term.
>>
>> The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance
>> of the product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would
>> prefer a full recall and replacement program immediately.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is
>> inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made
>> public.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>>
>>
>>
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>

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Simon Westlake]

Hmm, well after playing with it, it seems that Mikrotik doesn't like the 
incoming RADIUS commands being sent unless it originates from the RADIUS 
server it is configured to use, which makes life difficult. Is this the 
solution everyone here is using to force a refresh of attributes?


On 1/20/2016 12:52 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

That certainly sounds like the best solution. Thanks!

On 1/20/2016 12:48 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

PPPOE can be dropped with an incoming radius command.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
> wrote:


How are you handling changes to your services today if you're
using PPPoE?

For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific
attributes to set their speed, or IP address, or whether they
should be redirected to a splash page. If you change one of these
attributes, what is your current strategy for forcing a re-auth
to update the attributes? Seems like it is pretty easy while
you're on the phone with a customer to either login to your own
gear and reauth the session, or tell them to reboot their router,
or whatever their authenticated device is. But if they are
disabled and they make a payment on a splash page, it seems like
it would be likely to generate a service call if the splash page
tried telling them to do something like reboot their router or radio.

-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 
---
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
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The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

not yet.  but i thought if i were to roll back firmware i could turn off one 
access point and turn on the other...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


  sounds to me like transparent bridging isn't working right on the client... 
there may be something different with how it's handled on the newer firmware. 
Did you try switching the AP to access point and enabling WDS/transparent 
bridge instead of using AP-Repeater?



  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

good luck over there man, its a minefield


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:



  My next stop is ubnt forums or support 
  This lady is not happy...


  Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone


  - Reply message -
  From: "Josh Luthman" 
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
  Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM


  IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC address.




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other tickbox 
are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


  here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as 
10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106


- Original Message - 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
Subject: weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware



as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point 
setup as an ap-repeater.
This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming 
it's firmware related or perhaps
something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also 
had to update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)

suggestions?




we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we 
also noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address 
of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.

I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not 
change access to the radio.

I can not access the radio although it shows connected.







-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

My next stop is ubnt forums or support 
This lady is not happy...

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM

IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC address.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other tickbox are 
deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:







 

here is the station list.  again, the file we have 
show her radio as 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 
106

 




- Original Message - 

From: 
CBB 
- Jay Fuller 

To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 


Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 
AM

Subject: weird ap-repeater setup issue 
with 5.6.3 firmware



 

as many of you know, we've been going to 
5.6.3

today we got a call from a customer who reported she is 
down.

investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt 
access point setup as an ap-repeater.

This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we 
are assuming it's firmware related or perhaps

something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for 
example, we also had to update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) 
:)

 

suggestions?

 



 

 

we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap 
repeater, and we also noticed the station is showing connected, but it is 
showing the IP address of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address 
of the radio.

 

I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it 
did not change access to the radio.

 

I can not access the radio although it shows 
connected.

 

 







-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I can tell you the firmware fix did not help at either sites we had issues.  

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

I just did.  Hopefully it stabilizes things.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Mathew Howard  > wrote:

Have you put the RC firmware on it?

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Josh Baird  > wrote:

This is the only AP on the site that is having problems.  All cable runs are 
the same (~200ft).

 

It has also worked for months up until today.  This problem has suffered the 
management loss/cold temperature problems as well.  

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

Long power run?  Is it possible you're losing 6v?  The radio stops booting at 
20v.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Baird  > wrote:

Yeah yeah :)

 

So - we moved it from a SyncInjector providing ~26V to a Cambium PoE Injector 
providing 30V.  It brought it back to life (at least temporarily).

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:

Just teasing...

 

From: Josh Baird   

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:23 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

There have been some reports that feeding them with 48V fixes *some* issues.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:

Just keep raising the voltage until it starts working dammit!

 

(That is how the first transatlantic telegraph cable got ruined the first week 
of operation).

 

From: Josh Baird   

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:08 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

 

Tell me about it.. first decent snow here today, and one of our sites is having 
issues (only the ePMP).  I think we have completely lost one AP.  We are going 
to try and feed it 48V (it's currently 24V) and see if that brings it back to 
life.

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
 > wrote:

Hello Cambium,

 

At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us Indiana WISPs compared 
notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very 
interesting to learn we are experience identical problems across the spectrum. 

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you have identified.  
We also understand the firmware RC that has been made available to fix this 
short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of dealing with it.  

 

Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the performance of the 
product or triggers other issues, as it has been suggested, we would prefer a 
full recall and replacement program immediately.

 

If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product performance is 
inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would like for this to be made public. 
 

 

Thank you,

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320   Daytime # 
317-412-1540   Cell/Direct # 
Online:   www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Cameron Crum]

Why wouldn't it come from the radius you configured? Or why not add another
ip as another radius that only accepts incoming requests if you don't want
to use the regular radius? Alternatively, it can be done through cli on ssh
or through the API.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> Hmm, well after playing with it, it seems that Mikrotik doesn't like the
> incoming RADIUS commands being sent unless it originates from the RADIUS
> server it is configured to use, which makes life difficult. Is this the
> solution everyone here is using to force a refresh of attributes?
>
> On 1/20/2016 12:52 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
>
> That certainly sounds like the best solution. Thanks!
>
> On 1/20/2016 12:48 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> PPPOE can be dropped with an incoming radius command.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Simon Westlake < 
> simon@sonar.software> wrote:
>
>> How are you handling changes to your services today if you're using PPPoE?
>>
>> For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific attributes to set
>> their speed, or IP address, or whether they should be redirected to a
>> splash page. If you change one of these attributes, what is your current
>> strategy for forcing a re-auth to update the attributes? Seems like it is
>> pretty easy while you're on the phone with a customer to either login to
>> your own gear and reauth the session, or tell them to reboot their router,
>> or whatever their authenticated device is. But if they are disabled and
>> they make a payment on a splash page, it seems like it would be likely to
>> generate a service call if the splash page tried telling them to do
>> something like reboot their router or radio.
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
>> https://sonar.software
>>
>>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

The forum, or the lady's house? Lol

  - Original Message - 
  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


  good luck over there man, its a minefield


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:



My next stop is ubnt forums or support 
This lady is not happy...


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone


- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM


IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC address.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other tickbox 
are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio as 
10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106


  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
  Subject: weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware



  as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
  today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
  investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access point 
setup as an ap-repeater.
  This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are assuming 
it's firmware related or perhaps
  something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also had 
to update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)

  suggestions?




  we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we 
also noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address 
of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.

  I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not change 
access to the radio.

  I can not access the radio although it shows connected.







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Sterling Jacobson]

Yeah, that is kind of what the other providers have hinted at.

Netflix NOC fix my problem after I emailed them my blocks.

Maybe using BGP direct will help any future issues.

Or maybe not.

I’m going to start pushing IPv6 a lot more this year.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

"I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.  So 
I guess that’s not the problem."

I'm guessing that is the problem.  Since the blocks you are using are bing 
advertised by a data centers ASN, they think your customers are at a DC.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.

So I guess that’s not the problem.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:25 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

http://bgp.he.net/AS394752

You don't seem to be advertising anything.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Sterling Jacobson" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:00:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix
My ASN is 394752 the data center upstream ASN is 11798.

I’m still not sure this isn’t that new world wide problem of forcing DNS 
redirection in routers running parental filtering.

One instance of this was a customer running filtering on their router, but they 
said they turned it off and it still has the same Netflix message.

I’ll try emailing their NOC and see if I receive anything intelligent.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

What is you ASN ? I will be more than happy to check if I see anything odd.

Also, Netflix has different IP's in different parts of the country they use for 
sending the video streams.
We typically don't see the same prefix advertised by them via different pops 
they have.

Plus, not sure if you already got hold of them... you can reach them via email 
to their NOC cdnet...@netflix.com

If you give a shout out them on Nanog mailing list, you are very likely to get 
a fairly prompt response from their technical team.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Sterling Jacobson" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix
It may be that.

I get my IPv4 from a data center.
They are my upstream provider.
The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year ago 
because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time.

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Sterling Jacobson]

My own web site and hosted VM’s don’t even have IPv6 yet, so I’ve got a long 
ways to go, lol!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

If you get all the V6 implementation issues solved, you can probably get some 
good consulting gigs.

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Yeah, that is kind of what the other providers have hinted at.

Netflix NOC fix my problem after I emailed them my blocks.

Maybe using BGP direct will help any future issues.

Or maybe not.

I’m going to start pushing IPv6 a lot more this year.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

"I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.  So 
I guess that’s not the problem."

I'm guessing that is the problem.  Since the blocks you are using are bing 
advertised by a data centers ASN, they think your customers are at a DC.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.

So I guess that’s not the problem.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:25 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

http://bgp.he.net/AS394752

You don't seem to be advertising anything.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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From: "Sterling Jacobson" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:00:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix
My ASN is 394752 the data center upstream ASN is 11798.

I’m still not sure this isn’t that new world wide problem of forcing DNS 
redirection in routers running parental filtering.

One instance of this was a customer running filtering on their router, but they 
said they turned it off and it still has the same Netflix message.

I’ll try emailing their NOC and see if I receive anything intelligent.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

What is you ASN ? I will be more than happy to check if I see anything odd.

Also, Netflix has different IP's in different parts of the country they use for 
sending the video streams.
We typically don't see the same prefix advertised by them via different pops 
they have.

Plus, not sure if you already got hold of them... you can reach them via email 
to their NOC cdnet...@netflix.com

If you give a shout out them on Nanog mailing list, you are very likely to get 
a fairly prompt response from their technical team.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Sterling Jacobson" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix
It may be that.

I get my IPv4 from a data center.
They are my upstream provider.
The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year ago 
because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time.

All of 

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Simon Westlake]

Yeah, I'm doing it directly into the database. Looks like FreeRADIUS has 
some functions to proxy CoA/Disconnect requests though, although poorly 
documented, so I'm digging into that. Thanks for the direction, 
definitely helped!


On 1/20/2016 2:48 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
I meant on the MT. As for radius, how does the radius get attributes 
set? Are you just accessing the db directly? If you don't have access 
to the radius server, it would be difficult as the send function is a 
manual command. But you could always log into the MT and knock it off 
through CLI or API.




On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote:


Because I might not have access to SSH/CLI on that RADIUS server
if it's not a server I control. I'm trying to find a way that
isn't reliant on Mikrotik as the NAS, seems like the disconnect
packet is the right way. Looks like maybe it can be done using
unlang or the rlm_perl/python modules to trigger based on some
other event though.. still messing with it.

On 1/20/2016 1:45 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

Why wouldn't it come from the radius you configured? Or why not
add another ip as another radius that only accepts incoming
requests if you don't want to use the regular radius?
Alternatively, it can be done through cli on ssh or through the API.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

Hmm, well after playing with it, it seems that Mikrotik
doesn't like the incoming RADIUS commands being sent unless
it originates from the RADIUS server it is configured to use,
which makes life difficult. Is this the solution everyone
here is using to force a refresh of attributes?

On 1/20/2016 12:52 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

That certainly sounds like the best solution. Thanks!

On 1/20/2016 12:48 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

PPPOE can be dropped with an incoming radius command.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

How are you handling changes to your services today if
you're using PPPoE?

For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific
attributes to set their speed, or IP address, or
whether they should be redirected to a splash page. If
you change one of these attributes, what is your
current strategy for forcing a re-auth to update the
attributes? Seems like it is pretty easy while you're
on the phone with a customer to either login to your
own gear and reauth the session, or tell them to reboot
their router, or whatever their authenticated device
is. But if they are disabled and they make a payment on
a splash page, it seems like it would be likely to
generate a service call if the splash page tried
telling them to do something like reboot their router
or radio.

-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software 
Phone: (702) 447-1247 
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247 
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247 
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




-- 
Simon Westlake

Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email:simon@sonar.software 
Phone:(702) 447-1247 
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

[AFMUG] SyncInjector 1PPS Active = 0

[Ken Hohhof]

Does this mean the SyncInjector isn't receiving the 1PPS pulse from the 
SyncPipe?  Of that the SyncInjector isn't putting it out to the radios?


If it reports 2D and 3D fix and lots of satellites, which is more likely, a 
bad SyncPipe, or a bad SyncInjector?  (a cable/connector issue is another 
possibility)


When I go to the site (tomorrow), I will try the Pipe first, since that 
would be the least disruptive. 

Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Chuck McCown]

If you get all the V6 implementation issues solved, you can probably get some 
good consulting gigs.  

From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

Yeah, that is kind of what the other providers have hinted at.

 

Netflix NOC fix my problem after I emailed them my blocks.

 

Maybe using BGP direct will help any future issues.

 

Or maybe not. 

 

I’m going to start pushing IPv6 a lot more this year.

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

 

"I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.  So 
I guess that’s not the problem."

 

I'm guessing that is the problem.  Since the blocks you are using are bing 
advertised by a data centers ASN, they think your customers are at a DC.  

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:

  I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.

   

  So I guess that’s not the problem.

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:25 PM


  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

   

  http://bgp.he.net/AS394752

  You don't seem to be advertising anything.



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



  Midwest Internet Exchange
  http://www.midwest-ix.com




--

  From: "Sterling Jacobson" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:00:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

  My ASN is 394752 the data center upstream ASN is 11798.

   

  I’m still not sure this isn’t that new world wide problem of forcing DNS 
redirection in routers running parental filtering.

   

  One instance of this was a customer running filtering on their router, but 
they said they turned it off and it still has the same Netflix message.

   

  I’ll try emailing their NOC and see if I receive anything intelligent.

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:08 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix

   

  What is you ASN ? I will be more than happy to check if I see anything odd.


  Also, Netflix has different IP's in different parts of the country they use 
for sending the video streams.

  We typically don't see the same prefix advertised by them via different pops 
they have.

   

  Plus, not sure if you already got hold of them... you can reach them via 
email to their NOC cdnet...@netflix.com 

   

  If you give a shout out them on Nanog mailing list, you are very likely to 
get a fairly prompt response from their technical team.

   

  Regards.

   

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

   


--

From: "Sterling Jacobson" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:49:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

It may be that.

 

I get my IPv4 from a data center.

They are my upstream provider.

The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.

 

I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year 
ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time.

 

All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.

 

From: Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix

 

Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.

 

So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.

 

Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.

 

I just got off the phone. They asked me to 

Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

FYI, i had to go back to firmware 5.5.10 but that apparently resolved the 
problem.  The station IP is showing up correctly now and we're checking with 
the customer to verify.

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware



  not yet.  but i thought if i were to roll back firmware i could turn off one 
access point and turn on the other...

- Original Message - 
From: Mathew Howard 
To: af 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware


sounds to me like transparent bridging isn't working right on the client... 
there may be something different with how it's handled on the newer firmware. 
Did you try switching the AP to access point and enabling WDS/transparent 
bridge instead of using AP-Repeater?



On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  good luck over there man, its a minefield


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:07 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:



My next stop is ubnt forums or support 
This lady is not happy...


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone


- Reply message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware
Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2016 12:34 PM


IP Alias just creates a 169.254.x.y where x.y is based on the MAC 
address.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  is that auto ip ilias thing causing this, if the cdp and other 
tickbox are deselected you shouldnt be seeing any ips i dont thing


  On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:42 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:


here is the station list.  again, the file we have show her radio 
as 10.8.19.56 ; not 106.  We show she has a router at 106


  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group ; af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:40 AM
  Subject: weird ap-repeater setup issue with 5.6.3 firmware



  as many of you know, we've been going to 5.6.3
  today we got a call from a customer who reported she is down.
  investigating, we discovered she is on a 900 mhz ubnt access 
point setup as an ap-repeater.
  This problem started after the firmware upgrade so we are 
assuming it's firmware related or perhaps
  something is treated differently in 5.6.3  (for example, we also 
had to update all of our oid's for graphing purposes) :)

  suggestions?




  we noticed no "transparent bridge" mode on an ap repeater, and we 
also noticed the station is showing connected, but it is showing the IP address 
of the customer's bridged router ; NOT the ip address of the radio.

  I have also tried checking the "auto" box briefly ; it did not 
change access to the radio.

  I can not access the radio although it shows connected.







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE and service changes

[Cameron Crum]

I meant on the MT. As for radius, how does the radius get attributes set?
Are you just accessing the db directly? If you don't have access to the
radius server, it would be difficult as the send function is a manual
command. But you could always log into the MT and knock it off through CLI
or API.



On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Simon Westlake 
wrote:

> Because I might not have access to SSH/CLI on that RADIUS server if it's
> not a server I control. I'm trying to find a way that isn't reliant on
> Mikrotik as the NAS, seems like the disconnect packet is the right way.
> Looks like maybe it can be done using unlang or the rlm_perl/python modules
> to trigger based on some other event though.. still messing with it.
>
> On 1/20/2016 1:45 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> Why wouldn't it come from the radius you configured? Or why not add
> another ip as another radius that only accepts incoming requests if you
> don't want to use the regular radius? Alternatively, it can be done through
> cli on ssh or through the API.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Simon Westlake 
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, well after playing with it, it seems that Mikrotik doesn't like the
>> incoming RADIUS commands being sent unless it originates from the RADIUS
>> server it is configured to use, which makes life difficult. Is this the
>> solution everyone here is using to force a refresh of attributes?
>>
>> On 1/20/2016 12:52 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
>>
>> That certainly sounds like the best solution. Thanks!
>>
>> On 1/20/2016 12:48 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>
>> PPPOE can be dropped with an incoming radius command.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How are you handling changes to your services today if you're using
>>> PPPoE?
>>>
>>> For example, let's say a customer is receiving specific attributes to
>>> set their speed, or IP address, or whether they should be redirected to a
>>> splash page. If you change one of these attributes, what is your current
>>> strategy for forcing a re-auth to update the attributes? Seems like it is
>>> pretty easy while you're on the phone with a customer to either login to
>>> your own gear and reauth the session, or tell them to reboot their router,
>>> or whatever their authenticated device is. But if they are disabled and
>>> they make a payment on a splash page, it seems like it would be likely to
>>> generate a service call if the splash page tried telling them to do
>>> something like reboot their router or radio.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon Westlake
>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 <%28702%29%20447-1247>
>>> ---
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
>>> https://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[George Skorup]

Silent meaning no apparent reason. Just a watchdog reset. Like this:

**System Startup**
System Reset Exception -- Watchdog Reset
Software Version : CANOPY 13.4 AP-DES
Board Type : P12
Device Setting : 5.4GHz MIMO OFDM - Access Point - 0a-00-3e-a0-3c-a7 - 
5525.0 MHz - 20.0 MHz - 1/16 - CC 77 - 2.5 ms

FPGA Version : 040715
FPGA Features : DES, Sched, US/ETSI;
01/19/2016 : 06:37:35 CST : :Time Set
01/19/2016 : 06:37:35 CST : :GPS Date/Time Set;
01/19/2016 : 06:37:50 CST : Acquired sync pulse from Timing Port/UGPS.
12/31/2010 : 18:00:00 CST : :
01/01/2011 : 00:00:00 UTC : :Time Set
12/31/2010 : 18:00:00 CST :
**System Startup**
System Reset Exception -- Watchdog Reset
Software Version : CANOPY 13.4 AP-DES
Board Type : P12
Device Setting : 5.4GHz MIMO OFDM - Access Point - 0a-00-3e-a0-3c-a7 - 
5525.0 MHz - 20.0 MHz - 1/16 - CC 77 - 2.5 ms

FPGA Version : 040715
FPGA Features : DES, Sched, US/ETSI;
01/19/2016 : 18:20:53 CST : :Time Set
01/19/2016 : 18:20:53 CST : :GPS Date/Time Set;
01/19/2016 : 18:21:11 CST : Acquired sync pulse from Timing Port/UGPS.
12/31/2010 : 18:00:00 CST : :
01/01/2011 : 00:00:00 UTC : :Time Set
12/31/2010 : 18:00:00 CST :
**System Startup**
System Reset Exception -- Watchdog Reset
Software Version : CANOPY 13.4 AP-DES
Board Type : P12
Device Setting : 5.4GHz MIMO OFDM - Access Point - 0a-00-3e-a0-3c-a7 - 
5525.0 MHz - 20.0 MHz - 1/16 - CC 77 - 2.5 ms

FPGA Version : 040715
FPGA Features : DES, Sched, US/ETSI;
01/19/2016 : 20:09:53 CST : :Time Set
01/19/2016 : 20:09:53 CST : :GPS Date/Time Set;
01/19/2016 : 20:10:10 CST : Acquired sync pulse from On-board GPS.

On 1/20/2016 1:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Silent reset?
How do you know, if it’s silent?
*From:* George Skorup 
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:40 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.
I have a handful (3.6, 5.4/5.7 and the one lonely 2.4 AP) seeing 
watchdog resets. Almost everything is on 13.2.1. I'm testing 13.4 
official on our NOC 5.4 omni and it has been stack dumping and seeing 
considerably more silent resets the last few weeks while it has been 
pretty cold. It reset 4 or 5 times yesterday. The other pattern I've 
noticed is that the APs with more traffic load seem to reset more often.


I haven't seen many stack dumps out of 13.2.1, so that's where I'm 
staying for now. I'll probably downgrade the NOC AP and see what that 
does because it's getting ridiculous. My guess is it's still going to 
see the silent resets.


On 1/20/2016 1:09 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Wait - they keep telling us we are the only ones that this happens to 
with 450?

So who else is having reboot-o-rama with 450’s?
Mark
On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Brian Sullivan 
 wrote:
I wish they would fix/replace the bad 450 AP's that suffer from 
Watchdog Resets.

Although replacing 100 450 AP's is cheaper than ePMP.  :-/

On 1/20/2016 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Why would making the memory faster degrade performance?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc  wrote:


Hello Cambium,


At the MidWest-IX launch party last night, several of us
Indiana WISPs compared notes on the ‘cold weather’ problems we
are seeing with ePMPs.  It was very interesting to learn we are
experience identical problems across the spectrum.

We all understand this is a DRAM issue with certain units you
have identified.  We also understand the firmware RC that has
been made available to fix this short term.

The bottom line is we are very frustrated and grow tired of
dealing with it.


Our concern is simple.  If your software fix ‘degrades’ the
performance of the product or triggers other issues, as it has
been suggested, we would prefer a full recall and replacement
program immediately.


If the suggestion that the fix will degrade the product
performance is inaccurate and not cause other issues, I would
like for this to be made public.


Thank you,


*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
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Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix

[Eric Kuhnke]

There are something like 27,000 entries in the ipv6 global FIB table right
now, and 580,000+ ipv4.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:14 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there an estimation by those "in the know" on consumer adoption of IPv6
> (as in business consumer, not so much the resi, theyll take what they get)?
> Not so much even on the inside, their router can handle the 4-6, but as far
> as businesses adopting it. when that happens I would guess the value of IP4
> other than as an antiquity would drop to pretty much nothing.
> What is the current actual IPv6 adoption percentage across the interwebs?
> I just dont see it as a good long term investment beyond a few years to get
> on top of the bubble. If Xerox drops 16 million IPs on the market, or any
> of the other holders, its chaos.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> The difference will be when we can charge customers differently.  Like
>> $40/mo for IPv6 only or CG NAT, $50/mo for dual stack IPv4/v6.  That also
>> requires an easy to understand reason why the customer should care.
>> Compare to charging business customers extra for a static vs dynamic IP
>> address.
>>
>> Until you can put a $$$ value on it, it’s just blah blah blah save the
>> whales.  Money makes the world go round.  Or what is the saying, money
>> talks, bullshit walks?
>>
>>
>> *From:* Paul Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:05 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>> One potential way of looking at the cost is per subscriber.  So if you
>> assume $10 per IP and equate that you need one IP per subscriber then you
>> could add $10 to your setup/install fee to recover it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not that IP addresses were free in the first place, just that they cost
>> less.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would imagine that these costs will really go to much higher numbers at
>> some point … the higher the number, the more inclined I think folks will be
>> to adopt IPv6 in hopes that we could finally move to IPv6 only in the world
>> (yeah, I know it seems like a dream)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:09 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> .. is a popular marketplace for IPv4.  No, it's not cheap.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Grey market vendors are fine, that's where everybody else is getting
>> theirs. $10/ip
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2016 11:57 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I can’t.
>>
>>
>>
>> ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was
>> no way to obtain it.
>>
>> I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much
>> as possible to avoid crap like this.
>>
>> I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.
>>
>> But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some
>> foreign country, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take
>> your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From
>> Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space
>> are more likely to contain VPN endpoints.
>>
>> I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It may be that.
>>
>>
>>
>> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>>
>> They are my upstream provider.
>>
>> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a
>> year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the
>> same time.
>>
>>
>>
>> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
>> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
>> blocked Netflix
>>
>>
>>
>> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
>> from?  That may be part of the story.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson 
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>>
>> *To:* 

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.

[Chuck McCown]

Horizontal directional drilling machine.
200 CFM (or more) engine powered compressor
Mini excavator
Fiber blowing machine
Fiber fusion splicer

From: Graham McIntire 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber financing / loans? How are you paying for it.

I'm curious as well as to what equipment we need to go from 100% pure WISP to 
doing fiber as well.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

  How are all of you fiber guys paying to get this stuff in the ground ? All 
self financing ?

  What is a good estimate to bore say 100 or 500 houses passed in a suburban 
neighborhood that's all asphalt and concrete sidewalks with ~5000sqft lots for 
pon? I know it could vary vastly but just a ball park ? $1000 per house passed 
?