Los Angeles CFUG reforming - for real

[Cary Gordon]

I have, in a moment of enthusiastic madness, taken on reestablishing the Los
Angeles CFUG, formerly part of SCFUG. If you would be interested in
presenting at a meeting in the next few months, please let me know. There
will be no charge for membership or attendance, although we will try to have
a low cost food option, if folks want it.
 
Meeting day is not set, but will probably be Tuesday or Wednesday evenings
at 6:30 PMI am currently looking for a meeting place, most likely on the
West side of Los Angeles.

Please contact me off list is you can provide:

A meeting place;
A speaker (such as yourself); and/or
You are with an organization that would be interested in
underwriting
the group, which would not be very expensive, as most fixed
expenses like the Web site, etc. are already covered.

The site should be up later this week.

Thanks!
 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
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RE: low resource rdbms

[Cary Gordon]

 
You might want to look at HSQLDB <http://hsqldb.org/web/hsqlFeatures.html>.
It is all Java, lightweight and has a nice feature set. It also has a
version that runs in memory, which is kind of interesting.

Cary Gordon
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-Original Message-
From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 November 2005 23:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: low resource rdbms

Anyone have any suggestions?

On 11/6/05, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the best free low resource RDBMS?
> I'm currently using Postgres, does MySQL use less?
> Has anyone installed the Oracle Express DBMS? It's a large install
> 100+MB, how is it on resources?
>
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RE: CF Web Based Keyboard

[Cary Gordon]

I have it in my W2k Pro.

Cary Gordon
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:59 AM
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Subject: RE: CF Web Based Keyboard

Isn't that only on XP/2K3?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 3, 2005 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: CF Web Based Keyboard

> Oops! Jim Davis proved me wrong:
> 
> "However there's a good on-screen keyboard built into Windows already. 
> It's usually here: %SystemRoot%\system32\osk.exe"
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/

That's itthe world is over...Dave was wrong!! ;-)

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RE: ColdFusion and Jakarta Structs Framework

[Cary Gordon]

I would start here: 

http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html

Definitely a better way to go than Struts.

Cary Gordon
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Thomas,

Where can I find more information about faces?

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RE: Create SWF from CF

[Cary Gordon]

You might want to take a look at OpenLaszlo <http://www.openlaszlo.org/> it
is sorta equivalent to the non-actionscript aspect of Flex, only it's free.
You might need to adjust your model a bit to make it work.

But, did I mention that it is free?

Cary Gordon
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Create SWF from CF

Is there a way to create SWF's dynamically using CF? I'd like to be able to
upload images (Jpg,png), to a server and then create an SWF file with them
(one on each frame). I guess I would be looking at some sort of Java based
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RE: LDAP

[Cary Gordon]

We use OpenLDAP because it meets our clients first requirement - it is free.
The downside, for LDAP beginners, is that it is not particularly user
friendly, meaning that, if you aren't an LDAP expert, and you don't know
precisely how your organization needs to be structured, you will do it
wrong.  Hopefully, by the third redo, you will have it right.

I used to use the Netscape (now Sun ONE) directory server, which was much
easier, but is now (post Netscape) frighteningly expensive at about
$1.25/user for large, no cash organizations. My client has about 100k users,
and budgets about $0.005 per, which allows for a hefty linux box and a small
stack of LDAP books. 

BTW, add me to the list of happy Softerra LDAPBrowser users.

Cary Gordon
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 1:51 PM
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Subject: RE: LDAP

It *shouldn't* matter what brand you use, but since they may have their own
implementations, it's helpful to know.

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RE: XML Spy error when going to Schema view on XML file

[Cary Gordon]

You can't view the XML file in the Schema view, because it is not a Schema.

Cary Gordon
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Subject: OT: XML Spy error when going to Schema view on XML file

I'm attempting to go into Schema view in XML Spy Home 2005 on the enclosed
XML file when it gives the error "Unable to show schema.  
Schema has to begin with a schema-element!".  Anyone have any ideas what I'm
missing in my files?  Thanks.
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RE: backing up SQL Server DB across the network

[Cary Gordon]

This is common, if not universal when backing up DBs from a maintenance plan
across the network.  There are two choices to make this more reliable.  Do
your maintenance plan backup locally, then either use backup software to
write it to the NAS (you don't need hot DB backup add-ons), or open the
backup folder on the DB machine to the NAS - read only is fine - and pull it
onto the NAS with a script.

You can set your maintenance plan to limit the number of days of backup that
it holds in the target folder, so there is no added human intervention
needed.

Cary Gordon
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-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: backing up SQL Server DB across the network

I have a NAS unit and am trying to use it to backup SQL Server DB at night. 
I'm using a UNC path as part of the maintenance plan. The problem is it
seems I can not complete a backup. The backups always fail with this error
message:

BackupDiskFile::RequestDurableMedia:  faulre on backup device
"\\powervault\backup_1\sqldata\". Operating system error 64 (The specified
network name is no longer available.).

The error only occurs when the database is backed up, the transaction logs
are backed up to the same UNC path with no problem.

Is it not advisable or even possible to do backups like this?

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RE: Drop-Ship Limitations to California

[Cary Gordon]

This hold true for every state that charges sales tax.  If you are in CA and
hsve one local warehouse that you ship from, it is dead simple: You charge
tax in CA and no tax anywhere else.

The mail order computer stuff companies have a more complicated situation.
They have limited warehousing on their own.  Almost everything is dropped
shipped from distributors like Ingram Micro, Tech Data, etc., and those
folks have warehouses everywhere.  The big vendors are connected to the
distributors extranets, but even that does not guarantee that they have
current stock info, so if they sell you a framitz that is in IM's PA
warehouse, and it turns out to only be available in CA, they (and you) have
a problem.

I went through a huge argument with a company in Denver who sold me a
product that was supposedly coming from the manufacturer in Tennessee.  They
found out after the fact that it had shipped for CA and hit my credit card
for the tax. I wound up in a heated conversation with the president of the
company, and, finally, they took it off.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company



-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Drop-Ship Limitations to California

This is SOT but it may affect anyone writing programs to do ecommerce with
customers in California.

I was recently told by a pcConnection representative that they could only
drop-ship items to California from pcConnection warehouses in Ohio and
Tennessee -- because of California tax laws.

Anyone ever heard of this?

In my case it has caused a 2 1/2 month delay in receiving an item I ordered
on Aug 2 that was in stock (but apparently not in the correct warehouse).

TIA

Dick


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RE: Doug White - clickdoug.com

[Cary Gordon]

All you can do is take him to small claims court.  You will win, but then
it's on you to find him and collect.

 
Unless this service was phenomenally expensive and you can find a few
thousand other users, a class action suit is not going to happen.

Caveat: I have been through all manner of legal BS trying to collect or
recover money.  Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't.  I am not an
attorney. I don't even play one on TV.

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RE: Web Application Development using Cold Fusion in a Team Environment (Draft)

[Cary Gordon]

Adam,

 
Have you selected a price point for Plum?  If so, could you share it?

 
Thanks,

Cary Gordon
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RE: SSL Question

[Cary Gordon]

I once worked with a client whose Webmaster insisted that the form page that
was being submitted did not need to be an https page. He was correct, of
course, but nobody would enter their credit card number on that page.  His
boss helped him to see the light.

I think that users like to see https anywhere that any personal information
is displayed, technology notwithstanding.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company



From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SSL Question

I only have a small portion of my site - placing orders and changing
customer
information where I care if the data is encrypted over the net.  I currently
only use https: for these related pages.

Should I be concerned about sending ordering information (only last 4 digits
of Credit Card), customer addresses and customer-specific pricing outside of
SSL?

Does SSL add enough overhead where this should concern me?  If it doesn't,
why
not just keep the entire log-in session https:?

Comments, thoughts?

Andy
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RE: OT - NAS storage device and SQL Database

[Cary Gordon]

The odds are that this would seriously suck. Your only chance would be to
create a separate network just for this connection, and that would have to
be something like gig fiber using NICs with onboard processing - sort of a
discount SAN.

 
I tried writing a backup file to a NAS using a DB maintenance plan over a
private gig copper net using standard NICs and it generated lots of errors.
I wound up writing it directly to the DB server and sucking it onto the NAS
with a (more forgiving) backup program.

 
You could always install your db server on the NAS - the Dell NAS OS is W2k.

Cary Gordon
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From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: NAS storage device and SQL Database

I just bought a NAS storage unit from Dell. Does anyone know if I can store 
the SQL Server Database on  the network storage device and have the SQL 
Server use the database over the network or would this create too much 
network traffic and slow down the DB server?

Sorry for the OT post, my app is CFMX based and this setup is specifically 
to support my CF app.

Brook
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RE: (OT) Firewall

[Cary Gordon]

We use, recommend and sell SonicWall products.  We also sell Cisco (Pix).

SonicWall is reasonably priced, easy to use, and well supported.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

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From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (OT) Firewall

Anyone know of a god network firewall system? Zonealarm is good for a
single machine, but I think that mothernature.com needs a system wide
firewall. What do you use, what do you suggest?
Thanks

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Re: OT: Hot Button - English pedantry

[Cary Gordon]

Perhaps we should all visit this site before posting: 
http://www.cjr.org/tools/lc/>.  It might slow things down a bit.

As someone who is in grad school after a 34 year hiatus, I can feel 
everyone's pain.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 09:59 PM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
> > But the error message infers that the login is not being accepted.
>
>
>*implies*
>
>You might *infer* from the error message that the login is not being accepted.
>The error message might well *imply* that the login is not being accepted.
>
>Sorry, but my wife & I were just bemoaning the fact that many people
>out there don't know the difference between affect / effect, mute /
>moot, and infer / imply and I swore to her that computer people get
>infer / imply right most of the time...
>
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Re: Process Modeling Tool

[Cary Gordon]

We use Visio.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 05:18 PM 7/8/2004, you wrote:
>All,
>
>I am looking for a tool/software so that I can create graphical
>respresentation of processes.  I guess something like Visio.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Troy
>
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Re: Deeply suspicious of this pricing ..

[Cary Gordon]

Wel...

Other than the fact that:

1) They claim to be selling "OEM software", which, in the real world, is 
software licensed for distribution with a new machine.  AFAIK, Macromedia 
does not do OEM.

2) They claim to use 128 bit encryption, but in fact just pass everything 
back through the url string.

3) They are in Moscow and the address given for "Anastaia Velikopolskaya", 
the registrant, is one digit off the address for Moscow State U."

and so on...

I honestly do not think that they are selling bogus software.  In fact I 
don't think that they are selling anything, just phishing for credit card info.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 11:10 AM 7/6/2004, you wrote:
>We need to pick another copy of MX 6.1 and I came across this :
>
>http://dailysoft.biz/?page=studiomx2004&pid=9583&cart=
>
>Something doesn't add up, but I thought I'd pose the question to you all 
>if you thought it was legit or have done business with them before.
>
>Thanks.
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Re: blackstone talk at CFUN

[Cary Gordon]

LiveWire was the name that Netscape gave for the overall package of server 
based technologies.

To quote Mark Richter in his book, "Official Netscape LiveWire Book" 
(Ventana, 1997, p4), "LiveWire is Netscape's groundbreaking solution or 
interactive network applications." or, to use the author's favorite term, 
the foundation, along with Navigator, of a paradigm shift.

The ground did break enough to swallow up my $49.95 (in 1997 dollars).  I 
new I was keeping this otherwise completely useless tome for a reason!

At 11:27 AM 7/2/2004, you wrote:
>On Jul 2, 2004, at 8:59 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
>
> > > I know that but:
> >  >
> >  > 1) didn't Netscape have a flaver of _javascript_ that supported
> >  > push technology -- called "LiveScript"?
> >
> >  LiveScript was simply the initial name for _javascript_, if I recall
> >  correctly. As a marketing ploy, Netscape changed the name shortly
> > after Sun
> >  announced Java.
> >
>
>Yes, but there was also some server-side Push technology called
>Livewire (or somesuch)  I remember reading about it, but never found
>anyone using/providing it.
>
> >  > 2) Can't you do Push with CGI?
> >
> >  Yes, if the browser makes a request and receives a response with a
> > MIME type
> >  of "multipart/x-mixed-replace". This basically allows the server to
> > continue
> >  its response indefinitely. I don't even know if modern browsers
> > support
> >  this, though.
> >
>
>It appears that Mozilla does:
>
>    http://xulplanet.com/tutorials/mozsdk/serverpush.php
>
>And Apple has a Safari Browser SDK, so you could conceivable write your
>own, special purpose, if necessary.
>
>Or it could be a browser plugin (Flash?, Java?)
>
> >  > 3) Doesn't a web server, in fact, listen for unsolicited requests?
> >
> >  Yes, that's pretty much what a web server is all about.
> >
> >  > 4) Given 3, couldn't a client also be running a server, and
> >  > listening for unsolicited requests.
> >
> >  Yes, but the browser isn't going to do that for you. You'd basically
> > have to
> >  install a server on each user's machine. I suspect most network
> >  administrators would have some issues with that.
>
>They might if it benefitted the network
>
>A few years ago, my company sold/installed 100 computers distributed
>over 11 LANs to the Army at Ft; Leavenworth.
>
>The bulk of these LANs were in Advanced Officer training Classrooms to
>perform battlefield simulations using Large screen 3-D HI-res (at the
>time) color graphics.
>
>The technology at the time did not permit it, but the Army really
>wanted 2 additional capabilities;
>
>1) to capture any given student's screen for purposes of monitoring and
>
>2) to redisplay the instructor's or a student's screen on all the other
>screens
>
>We could have sold another 1/2 mil of hardware/services, if we could
>have provided this capability
>
>Now, here's an app that could be easily done with today's technology
>(and it  may be available from special-purpose vendors/programs).
>
>Today, we could take this a step further as we could broadcast to all,
>the instructor and one or more students collaborating on a solution --
>or monitor several with Pic-in-Pic.
>
>Pretty specialized, yeah!
>
>So lets take it down a notch -- we have 20 students with browsers on
>everybody's screen -- what that browser displays can under control;
>
>1) of the isolated student
>2) of the instructor (when necessary)
>3) of another student demoing his solution
>
>There are apps that justift Push technology.
>
>Dick
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Re: blackstone talk at CFUN

[Cary Gordon]

You are describing two related Netscape technologies: LiveScript became 
_javascript_, and Netscape built an early push system based on its 
server-side _javascript_/LiveScript technology.

I was working - with little to show for it - with the Netscape SuiteSpot 
server-side technology when I heard about CF.  I saw a demo of 1.5, then 
ran out and got a copy of the newly minted 2.0.  I completed the project 
that I had been working on for two months in two weeks, and the rest, as 
they say, is history.

Now, I could do it with CFMX and Dreamweaver in about two hours or less.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

>Dick Applebaum wrote:
---snip---
>1) didn't Netscape have a flaver of _javascript_ that supported push
>technology -- called "LiveScript"?
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Re: Finding good developers

[Cary Gordon]

Thank you, Dick,

You have provided an excellent reminder of why, under no circumstance, 
would I ever ask a potential employee or contractor to tell me a joke!

Cary

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At 03:35 PM 6/30/2004, you wrote:
>On Jun 30, 2004, at 12:35 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>
> > A joke! It's people like you that I hate when I get interviewed!
> >  Though I agree it tells the interviewer a lot, so can my internet
> >  browsing cache!
>
>If you are going to be part of a team...
>
>Dick
>
>Have you heard the one about the girl who comes home from school and
>says:
>
>"Daddy, what's a faux pas?  They explained it in school today, but I
>really don't understand!"
>
>"Well, Honey, maybe it would be easier if  I show you an example."
>
>"Do you remember a few weeks ago, the Reverend came to the house?"
>
>"Yes, Daddy, is that a  faux pas?"
>
>"No Honey!  But, do you remember when we we walking in the garden, the
>Reverend pricked a finger on a rose bush?"
>
>"Yes, Daddy, is that a  faux pas?"
>
>"No Honey!  But do you remember when the Reverend came to the house
>last Thursday,  for Thanksgiving dinner?".
>
>. "And that's three of 'em"
>
>"In times like these, it helps to recall that
>there have always been times like these."
>- Paul Harvey -
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RE: RDS support (was Re: CFEclipse release - beta

[Cary Gordon]

Wouldn't it be possible to use openSSH as a base to build an improved RDS 
type functionality?

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Re: Backup SQL Server Users

[Cary Gordon]

I agree.  We have a variety of otherwise pretty good backup software 
available - Retrospect and BrightStor.  They seem to do backup okay.  It is 
only the restore that never seems to work.

We dump everything to a file via a maintenance plan and back that up.

Caveat:  If you are doing big league ecom and need to backup 12 times a day 
(literally), you need to use software like Retrospect and BrightStor with 
their respective SQL server agents, otherwise you will take too much of a 
performance hit.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
Wishing that I was in Phuket wasting baht on just about anything...

At 01:34 AM 6/9/2004 +0700, you wrote:
> > AFAICS the standard tools for SQL Server for doing backups, well, um,
> > suck.  You might try searching for some evaluation copies of 3rd party
> > tools, there was one I used once but I forget its name now.
>
>i think you have that backwards. pretty much most folks on the sql server
>list will recommend using sql server to dump out your backup via one of the
>maintainence wizards & shuffling that off to tape/etc. i wouldn't waste a
>single thai baht (1/40 of a US$) on another sql server backup add-on.
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RE: activePDF

[Cary Gordon]

What do you mean by "editable"?  AFAIK, Illustrator is the only app that 
offers any significant editing of PDFs.  Do you mean forms that can be 
filled in buy the user in Adobe Acrobat Reader?

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 04:50 PM 5/26/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>My biggest request is the ability to create a PDF which is in itself an
>editable PDFI am not sure if this is possible with any of the tools out
>there?
>    _
>
>From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 26 May 2004 15:29
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: activePDF
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Re: OT: Help setting up DNS MX Record.

[Cary Gordon]

I suggest that you move your dns to an easy to use, free service like 
.

We do it the old fashioned way - BIND on Linux, but there is no need for 
you to get that involved if it is not needed in you business.

If you do want to learn the nitty gritty, get Cricket Liu's DNS & BIND from 
O'Reilly.

If you need further help, contact me offlist.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 01:12 PM 5/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>I run my own small web server. I do not offer email, just site hosting for 
>the sites I develop. I have a client that has their own exchange server a 
>their facility.They have the DNS for the URL pointing at my server.  The 
>site comes up fine.  I need to get their email to them so I need to set up 
>a MX Record. However everything I am doing is wrong. Windows 2000, IIS, DNS
>
>Here is what I have so far
>(same as parent folder)Start Authority MyServer, admin
>(same as parent folder)Name Server MyServer
>(same as parent folder)Host24.106.39.122
>wwwAliasoilequipment.com
>
>They previous hoster gave me this
>
>86400   IN  MX  20 mail.oilequipment.com.
>mail    86400   IN  A   216.153.249.36
>
>I need help!
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RE: xslt beginners guide?

[Cary Gordon]

You might want to look at "XML for Web Designers Using Macromedia Studio MX 
2004" by Kevin Ruse (1584503017).

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 03:22 PM 4/21/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>Thanks for getting back to me... sorry, I don't think I've worded it
>very well
>
>I've went through the simple tutorials on w3schools, also on zvon.org...
>I've got a grasp of the really basic stuff with the basic examples
>given.
>
>I'm at the stage where I've got a XML schema and I wanna be able to do
>what zvon.org does so I don't need to care what platform the user is
>coming to the pages on... but I've hit a brick wall...
>
>Guess I was looking for the XSLT version of this list :-)
>
>--
>David
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Re: CFMX for sale

[Cary Gordon]

Uh, let me get this straight: The only persons or entities prohibited from 
selling an NFR product are the ones who do not have it yet. Right?

Must be the three letter thing - like WMD.

At 03:27 PM 4/20/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Adam wrote
> >NFR = not for _resale_
>
>My understanding of NFR has always been the final recipient can't sell 
>it.  If thats wrong and an initial sale is permitted, then I and a lot of 
>other people here are wrong on this.
>
>So Christian or any other MM person on the list, whats the deal here?  Is 
>NFR licensed software 'saleable' by the end user if they have won it in 
>our hypothetical CFUG drawing?
>
>
>--
>---
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>MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
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Re: CFMX for sale

[Cary Gordon]

Amen.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 08:39 PM 4/20/2004 +, you wrote:
>Susan,
>
>You should sell your copy guilt free. It's your copy and yours alone, 
>what you do with it is your business. No, I'm not intrested in buying it. 
>It's just no one else's bizness what you do with it.
>
>I think it's commendable that you offered through this list to developers 
>who will use it to it's full potential.
>
>-adam
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RE: 508 Compliant?

[Cary Gordon]

Usablenet  make some capable tools for building 
accessible sites, including an add-in for Dreamweaver.  In fact, the 
accessibility tool included with Dreamweaver was built by Usablenet.

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RE: OT-Firewall

[Cary Gordon]

We recommend Cisco and Sonicwall. For most applications, the SonicWall will 
do everything needed and it is has a great administrative interface.

The Cisco PIX is more flexible, but it needs a lot of attention and an 
expensive Cisco maintenance contract so you have something to attend to it 
with.  You can run one of these without going to Cisco's PIX school, but I 
don't recommend it.

We do sell these, as well.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 01:37 PM 2/4/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Ok so what HW Firewall would you recommend?
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Re: OT: Did I offend?

[Cary Gordon]

No, but somebody in the thread used the word t*ts to describe their 
install.  This is particularly amusing in light of the (manufactured) 
Superbowl "controversy".

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 09:48 AM 2/3/2004 -0800, Rob Rohan wrote:
>What the heck is this? I didn't cuss?
>
> eManager Notification *
>
>The following message was blocked because it contains sensitive content.
>
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>Rule/Policy: Profanity
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>Vale,
>Rob
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Milestone (was RE: Session vs. Client Management)

[Cary Gordon]

I have been archiving Dave's posts since 11/18/1999.  This is number 5,000.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 12:54 PM 1/28/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > It must tie it to the SessionTimeout in the CFAdmin and
> > CFAPPLICATION then
>
>If by "it" you mean the duration of the cookies, no, by default they last a
>very long time.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>phone: 202-797-5496
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RE: CGURU Install Help Needed

[Cary Gordon]

My advice for installing or uninstalling anything on W2K is to close every 
application and stop any service that will permit you to stop it without 
taking down the machine.

Generally these are: Event Viewer, Plug and Play, Remote Procedure Call 
(RPC),Security Accounts Manager, and Windows Management Instrumentation 
Driver Extensions.  There may be others, depending on your installation.

If any of the CF services will not stop, first try opening the Task Manager 
and stopping their processes.  If that does not work, you can either 
restart the server in the protected mode and disable the services and 
restart, or you can go to www.sysinternals.com and download pstools.  Then 
you can use pskill to stop anything you like.

Good luck,

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 03:02 PM 8/25/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello,
>I have a Win2K sp4 machine, never had CF loaded previously, I installed 6.1
>and it fails at starting the CF Services. The ODBC Service and ODBC agent do
>not install. If I uninstall it hangs at 90% and does not uninstall. The
>install log says everything is successful. Any tips on what might be
>happening here?
>
>Tia,
>Rob

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Re: Congressional Data

[Cary Gordon]

There are several commercial databases available in the $3-400 range, or 
you can buy the raw data (messy) from the USPS.

http://www.zipinfo.com/
http://www.congressmerge.com/

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
 > Hi,
 >
 > I am working with an association that wants to do some advocacy work with
their members.  We are looking for data for zip codes and congressional
districts to do lookups for Representatives in Congress.  Anyone have any
experience finding this kind of data?
 >
 > Thanks
 >
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Re: IIS Disappeared

[Cary Gordon]

Are you sure that the Computer Management console snapin is connected to 
your machine?  Do the other nodes (System Tools and Storage) work?

If not, right click on Computer Management and use the "connect to another 
computer" item to reconnect.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 02:27 PM 8/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>All of the sudden, IIS doesn't show up in my console.  When I click on
>Services and Applications, I get a message, "No Administerable Services
>Found".
>
>Anyone have any idea what would've caused this?  I'm using Win2k Pro.
>
>-Brad

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Re: ColdFusion on Linux

[Cary Gordon]

CF for Linux does not include an Access ODBC driver.  Access is different 
from database servers like MySQL or MS SQL.  The .mdb file is basically 
just a data file.  The Windows Access ODBC driver uses the MSJet database 
engine (we won't muddy this with MSDE) to become, in effect, the database 
server.

AFAIK, there is nothing with similar functionality available on other 
platforms.

There is a company called Intelligent Converters 
<http://www.convert-in.com> that makes utilities to convert from Access to 
MySQL and back again.  You should check them out.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 08:55 AM 7/29/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>BTW, we're talking CF version 5 on this...
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "David K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:30 AM
>Subject: SOT: ColdFusion on Linux
>
>
> > Are there any issues using a MS Access DB
> > with ColdFusion on a Linux box?
> >
> > David K.


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Re: OT: Smarter.com and IE

[Cary Gordon]

Here is the solution:

Open IE and go to Tools/Internet Options

Click the Programs tab and select "Reset Web Settings" - you needn't reset 
your home page.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 03:44 PM 7/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Anyone else have this problem?
>
>I have had my IE Browser start opening the Search on the left... and it
>brings up smarter.com.  I can not seem to get it to quit.  When I go places
>it will randomly pop up.  Not just when searching.  I can click on a page
>and it will pop up.  then it will not for a while.  I have Ad-Aware and it
>cleaned my system but does not fine this one.
>
>I will give these points and a grade of A to the person who helps me remove
>this from my browser.
>
>I do have the google toolbar, Yahoo toolbar installed.  I have Microsoft IE
>Browser 6.0 and Win XP.
>
>Not sure what else you need to know to find out what to do to this but hope
>this is enough.
>
>I have used spyware, ad-aware, Browser Hijack Blaster, BHODemon, and
>MSConfig to remove smarter.com but no luck.
>
>Thanks


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Re: SQL: Deleting items older than 7 days from today

[Cary Gordon]

If you are going to be doing this regularly, you should consider using a 
stored procedure, assuming your database supports them.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 10:12 AM 4/1/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>I'm trying to do this with a single SQL statement.
>
>Delete all records from the table tblEvents that are older than 7 days.
>
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Re: OT: enabling domain access without www

[Cary Gordon]

DNS

At 10:35 AM 3/13/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>I cannot remember if setting http://mydomain.com is a webserver (IIS) or a
>DNS setting?
>
>Can someone verify this for me?
>
>Thanks,
>Clint


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RE: PHP versus CF Development Speed?

[Cary Gordon]

Isn't that an oxymoron?

At 04:03 PM 2/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I make sure the code for all my UDF's are elaborate haiku's. :)
>
>s. isaac dealey


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RE: Multiple Web Servers

[Cary Gordon]

I suppose that it would be pretty difficult to come up with 212 different 
types of server that would run on the same hardware.

At 07:48 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > I used to have a client who had 212 production web servers
> > on a single physical server simultaneously, all connected
> > to a single version of CF. The machine ate up almost an
> > entire class C.
>
>Were they virtual servers using the same web server software, or different
>servers using different pieces of software (IIS, Apache, etc) as discussed
>in this thread?
>
>I don't think it's all that uncommon to have several hundred virtual servers
>on a single physical server, actually, but I don't deal with that kind of
>stuff often enough to know.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444


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RE: Multiple Web Servers

[Cary Gordon]

I used to have a client who had 212 production web servers on a single 
physical server
simultaneously, all connected to a single version of CF.  The machine ate 
up almost an entire class C.

Not my recommendation, but it worked.

At 07:28 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Now, we've come full-circle. I do this on my own laptop; I have CF 5, CFMX
>Enterprise and CFMX for J2EE on JRun 4, running against Apache 1.3.x, Apache
>2, IIS 5, and WebSite. But that's for testing, not production, and I don't
>have to run them all simultaneously. I've never encountered a situation
>where I'd want to run two production web servers on a single physical server
>simultaneously, and have them both connected to a single version of CF,
>either.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444


Cary Gordon
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Re: HTTPS

[Cary Gordon]

The encryption is performed on submission, so the form does not have to be 
an https.  That said, while all of us so called experts might know this, 
the general public does not, and they will be looking for that lock symbol 
on the form page, so you might as well make it a mandatory ssl page anyway.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 07:36 AM 2/22/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>For proper security, should your login screen be called using HTTPS as well as
>the action screen or just the login action screen?
>
>http://www.domain.com/login.cfm
>
>Or
>
>https://www.domain.com/login.cfm
>
>Andy


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Re: encryption question

[Cary Gordon]

It would be much easier to do this with ssl certificates.  You wouldn't 
need commercial certs for this.  With IIS, you can generate both a server 
and client cert and enrcrypt traffic between them.  I am pretty sure that 
there is an open source system to do the same on Linux.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 03:46 PM 2/21/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>I don't know much about encryption ...
>
>If I encrypt something with one of the PertWeb encyption tools
>(http://developer.perthweb.com.au/), can another user (assuming the user has
>the private key) decrypt the string with software other than a cfx tag?  I
>mean, is there something I can have people who don't have access to Cold
>Fusion locally take an encyprted file and decrypt it?
>
>What I want to do is encypt something on the server with the public key and
>then have a user grab the encrypted string, and decrypt it -- but without
>them having to install CF and the CFX tag on their local machine.
>
>What tools are available?  What would you recommend -- preferrably some
>freeware.
>
>Thanks.
>
>H.
>
>
>~~
>Howard Owens
>Internet Operations Coordinator
>InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>AIM: GoCatGo1956
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Re: Starting CF with cfstart.bat - Can you assign an account?

[Cary Gordon]

No.

The cfstart.bat file just scripts the "net start" command, and that command 
only accepts one parameter: service name.

The service runs under whatever user name it was set up to run under in the 
services control panel.

This is, however, not to say that what you want cannot be done.  All it 
would take is a script or program that:

stops the service, if it is running
runs a registry script to change the user name
  
starts the service

At 03:03 PM 1/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Is there anyway to tell CF what account to run under when calling the
>cfstart.bat file? Does it run under the local system account?
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>Brook Davies
>maracasmedia.com


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RE: WWWOT certification experiences/plans?

[Cary Gordon]

Okay, I have to tell my story...

CERTIFICATION MADE MY BUSINESS!

Really.

This is how it happened.  I had started to work full time as a consultant 
programmer, when a client told me that her shop was looking for a 
Technology Director (CIO).  I polished my CV and applied.  I seemed to be a 
good fit for the job. I had a nice interview with their search committee.

I didn't get the job.

It went to a guy with an MSCE.

Flash forward 16 months.  I have 2 1/2 employees and am doing great.  I get 
a call from my client.

Bob the MSCE, who BTW had zero interest in computers, but wanted an easy 
job, is leaving because the work is too hard.  He has accomplished not one 
goal during his tenure and his major project, which was one month from 
going live when he was hired, is still at square one.

Typical Bob story: Being a "hands on" kinda guy, he installed 9 servers in 
his office.  Fortunately, it was close to the electrical panel.  The only 
rub was that he couldn't get the temperature below 102 degrees.

Anyway, they want to know if I am still available.  When I stop laughing, I 
reply that, no, I am not available as an employee, but we will take the 
project on as a contractor.

I GIVE THANKS DAILY TO THE GODS OF CERTIFICATION!


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RE: Mr.Corfield: MX and beans

[Cary Gordon]

I am not quite as optimistic about the future of Java as you are.  It might 
be around, in the sense that the once and future coolest language in the 
world, APL, is still around...

At 11:38 AM 1/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Personally, I'd write everything in beans if given the opportunity. Not
>to knock CF or NEthing, but I like the idea of my code being server
>independent. You can use the same beans on your expensive CFMX box, or
>on a freeware J2ee, or any other java apps for that matter. It really is
>one of the best architectures for code reuse. (IMHO)
>
>Thinking of some of the archaic systems we have at our university, we
>would have saved hundreds of thousands on updating them, had we been
>able to use the exact same code.
>
>I can't say for certain if CF will be around in 25 years, but I feel
>pretty confident that java will. It's just kind of crazy to think that
>my code will last that long. As it's usually cycled out due to
>technology changes, not logic.
>
>Adam Wayne Lehman
>Web Systems Developer
>Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
>Distance Education Division


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RE: mySQL & CF

[Cary Gordon]

CFQueryParam gives you an easy way to validate the query params.  Some 
clever, bored hackers have figured out how to do things like pass a drop 
table query through the header.  It is an even easier exploit if you are 
passing query parameters through the url string.

At 11:51 AM 12/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi, Craig, and thanks for the reply.
>
>When you say they "make things a lot more secure."
>What exactly do you mean?  Boy, that's a lot of extra typing
>over the typical CFINSERT syntax...
>
>Rick
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:10 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: mySQL & CF
>
>
>Standard SQL inserts will work fine on most if not all RDBMS's
>
>Eg.
>
>insert into tablename
>(int_col1,varchar_col2)
>values
>(value="#form.val1#">,value="#form.val2#">)
>
>Do try to use the cfqueryparams, they make things a lot more secure.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 16 December 2002 16:02
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: mySQL & CF
>
>Hi, Matt.
>
>I, too, learned about the CFUPDATE problem from personal experience
>and from the Allaire forums when I first started using CF (with Access
>at
>that time).
>I stopped using it and went to the CFQUERY...Set... approach.  That's
>worked
>fine.
>
>I haven't had any problems with CFINSERT, but if that may be problematic
>in
>the future
>I may as well go ahead and change my coding habits now.
>
>How is the INSERT coded for mySQL and CF?
>Example?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rick
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:11 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: mySQL & CF
>
>
>Rick,
>
>I noticed you mention that you use CFINSERT.  From your earlier postings
>I
>know you are on CF 4.5x, as I am.
>
>You're likely to discover that CFINSERT and/or CFUPDATE sometimes blow
>sky-high on CF 4.5x (at least) when working with mySQL (3.23 for sure,
>and
>maybe 4.0x).  In threads on the subject over at the (then) Allaire
>forums no
>specific cause was ever traced.  It just happens.  Sometimes.
>
>In one of those threads I believe it was Paul Hastings who advised me to
>'just say no to cfinsert/cfupdate' and it ranks as some of the best CF
>advice I ever got.  On the surface those tags appear to be handy
>shortcuts,
>but they black-box your SQL, take away the otherwise granular control
>you
>should have and make debugging ... difficult.
>
>I suggest you follow the same advice -- you'll probably find out you
>have
>to, anyway.  While you're at it go for the double bonus and implement
>cfqueryparam.
>
>Happy Monday (early) :)
>
>---
>Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc.
>http://mysecretbase.com - Retail
>http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools
>---
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: How to change this query from MS Access to MySQL Query

[Cary Gordon]

SELECT  u.*
FROMUnits u, Clients c
WHERE   c.UnitID = u.UnitID
AND c.ClientID = #App_ClientID#


At 11:49 AM 12/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi, all.
>
>This query worked with MS Access, but not with MySQL...
>
>How should I change this to make it work?
>Is it a subquery problem?
>This is MySQL version 4.0.5 beta...
>
>
>  Select * from Units U where U.UnitID
> in (Select UnitID from Clients where Clients
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>Rick

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RE: eWeek Article about CF on Linux

[Cary Gordon]

Of course, you are correct, and this is the key to my complaint, and to the 
complaints proffered by many other developers.

MM is trying to fly by the seat of their marketing strategy rather than 
cultivating developers - the folks that have to buy in for them to actually 
make sales.

"There is a simple answer to every question, and it is usually wrong..."

Occam's Toothbrush

At 03:56 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Subject: RE: eWeek Article about CF on Linux
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I think the strategy is that folks running solaris environments tend to be
>larger firms and be willing to spend the bucks for "Enterprise" software. On
>the flip side of that the demand for Pro would be significantly less for
>Solaris customers and it saves them development time and cuts rollout costs.
>
>Not saying I agree but that may be there logic...There isn't much we use in
>the Enterprise version besides the drivers...
>
>Stace
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Cary Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:02 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: eWeek Article about CF on Linux
>
>
> --- snip ---


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Re: eWeek Article about CF on Linux

[Cary Gordon]

One of the subtexts here is the utter bankruptcy of MM's approach to 
application servers.

In order to productize CFMX for application servers, they have put the 
relationship between CF and the Java App Server into a black box.

Why?  To prevent users of the standard editions from getting some of the 
"added functionaltiy" of the ColdFusion MX for J2EE packages for free.

Why?  Because they can charge a hefty premium for the J2EE version.

Why?  Because they assume that anyone running one of these servers has 
money to burn.

This is the same approach that they take to CF on Solaris, which is only 
available in an Enterprise version.

I have 9 Sun Fire VL100's deployed with Solaris 8.  These machines each 
cost about $1500 all up with the OS, Netscape One, etc. No way am I going 
to spend $4,999 apiece - over nine times the cost of CF on Windows or Linux 
- to run CF on these boxes.  For $45,000, We are more than happy to learn 
php...

The MM server line makes no sense to me.  Who can explain the rational for 
buying Flash Remoting MX  for $1k when that functionality is built into CF 
pro at $800 or JRun at $900?

I think that MM needs to simplify it's product line and unbundle all of the 
features in CF Enterprise and CF for J2EE.  If I need sandbox security or a 
Type IV driver for Oracle, I will cheerfully pay for it.  Just don't make 
me pay for it on my appliance server...



At 09:06 AM 12/4/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Are these valid complaints from the CF Linux/Unix community?
>
>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,741132,00.asp
>
>
>
>Ryan Kime
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Web Developer
>Webco Industries


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Re: Does a windows 2000 web server need antivirus?

[Cary Gordon]

Only if it is running software from Microsoft and connected to a network .

At 04:25 PM 11/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Does a windows 2000 web server need antivirus?
>
>--
>Chris Edwards
>Web Application Developer
>Outer Banks Internet, Inc.
>252-441-6698
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Re: OT js value validation

[Cary Gordon]

It sounds like you are evaluating these as text.  If you aren't using any 
quotes in the actual code, take a look at the input process.

Cary

At 08:56 AM 10/31/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>document.editExemptions.SCEPTempExemptUnits.value >
>document.editExemptions.totalUnits.value
>
>I pass in SCEPTempExemptUnits as 2 and  totalUnits as 16... Why would this
>think that 2 is greater than 16?  It works if I pass in SCEPTempExemptUnits
>as 1 or 10..  Any ideas?
>
>Thanks


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Re: OT: CF and mySQL - cont'd thread

[Cary Gordon]

If y0ou want to do this the easy way, check out the products from 
Intelligent Converters . They aren't free, but 
they deliver a lot of value.

Their basic Access-to-MySQL version is $39.85.   "Pro" is another $15 and 
they have bundles with their other products.

Cary


At 01:20 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've check the DOC but I can't seem to 
>import a comma-delimited text file exported from Access into mySQL.
>
>I've created the database, table and fields. WHen I do a Import texfile 
>everything looks OK via MySQL-Front. My text file contains only commas as 
>delimiters separating each
>field.
>
>MySQl fields and settings:
>
>ID (Type: TinyINT(3), Primary Key, autoincrement)
>var (longtext)
>destination (longtext)
>
>Access fields:
>
>ID (generated automatically by Access)
>var
>destination
>
>When I import the text file anf go into data I should have 841 entries but 
>I only see 127? I see no text in the fields other than (Memo).
>
>What am I doing wrong?


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Re: columns of user-editable text: Link to Excel sheet?

[Cary Gordon]

You can configure an Excel file as an ODBC datasource.

Then you could display it in a CFGRID, if you like.

Cary

At 08:23 PM 10/29/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Someone wants to have a page that's mainly an Excel spreadsheet... anyone
>know how to do that? Does it change when they change the spreadsheet?
>
>Or, I was thinking the user could export to a text file, which I could
>cfinclude between
> 
>tags...
>
>but there are columns of data - how would I get them to line up?
>
>
>This is the user phone list - name, dept, phone, employee no... tabular
>data.
>
>They HAVE an actual cfgrid of data for it now, and I knew they would
>eventually NOT want to keep it up (in duplicate with whatever the secretary
>is using to distribute the real phone list!).
>
>Suggestions? Sample code?
>
>TIA
>
>Ed Gordon


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RE: IRC or chat room where CF'rs hang out

[Cary Gordon]

Isn't canning a common form or preservation?

At 05:58 PM 9/25/2002 +, you wrote:
>I preserve the right to stand up for the "jerks" in the channel.


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Re: MS Access..on the server (?)

[Cary Gordon]

Most database operations, including the ones you named, are supported by 
ODBC.  You don't need Access on your server.

At 12:15 PM 9/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey all...
>
>We're currently using Access as our database (yeah, yeah, i know) :)
>
>Question is this:  Access itself (the Office application) does not have to
>be on the server...for basic queries (select, insert, update, delete).  But
>in order to do table manipulation queries (add table, alter table, etc), it
>does?
>
>What are the advantages/disadvantages of having the Access application
>itself on the server?
>
>Thanks,
>Charlie


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Re: ColdFusion MX for J2EE is Available!

[Cary Gordon]

I am just not getting this.

What happens when I have a server that has JRun 4 and CFMX Pro?  Are there 
2 separate JRun installations?

I take it that the ColdFusion MX for JRun product is actually an unbundled 
ColdFusion MX Server Enterprise.  Is that correct?

Thanks,

Cary

At 10:14 AM 9/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>The ColdFusion product team is happy to announce the availability of 
>ColdFusion MX for J2EE, a new product line that allows developers to add 
>ColdFusion MX capabilities to supported J2EE application servers. Public 
>launch and announcements are slated for early next week.
>
>ColdFusion MX for J2EE is available in the following editions:
>
>* ColdFusion MX for IBM WebSphere Application Server
>* ColdFusion MX for Macromedia JRun
>* ColdFusion MX for Sun ONE
>
>The existing ColdFusion MX release is built on top of JRun 4. But this 
>release separates the ColdFusion runtime from the underlying app server, 
>giving developers full access to the app server's capabilities.
>
>So customers get the benefits of rapid server scripting capabilities, 
>increasing development productivity while enjoying full access to the 
>power of the J2EE platform.
>
>See for yourself! Download a free trial or purchase ColdFusion MX for J2EE 
>today at: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfj2ee.
>
>For more information, visit our product section for FAQs, technical white 
>papers, and more at http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfj2ee.
>
>Regards,
>The ColdFusion Product Team


Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
11664 National Blvd 143
Los Angeles, CA 90066
310-397-2999 (v)
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Testing (was RE: AOL Email Guidelines?)

[Cary Gordon]

I have found that the easiest way to test across browsers and operating 
systems is by using VMWare.  I have 8 VMWare machines on my workstation, 
mostly running Windows 98.  This allows me to run almost every version of 
IE, Netscape and AOL without leaving the comfort of my ergonomic task chair 
.  I can open 3 or 4 of them simultaneously for "head to head" comparisons.

At 04:20 PM 8/21/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Subject: RE: AOL Email Guidelines?
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I just installed AOL 5.0 on Windows XP pro to test the text/x-aol mime
>type for sending "rich text" compatible mail, and when I logged on to
>AO-Hell was notified I can only use version 5.0 two more times because
>(paraphrasing) "This version is not compatible with Windows XP - you
>must upgrade immediately!!
>
>That sucks..  I *really* don't want to have to uninstall 5.0, reinstall,
>test a few times, then uninstall, reinstall, ad nauseaum...


Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company


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Re: X-server?

[Cary Gordon]

Speaking for myself, I find this really offensive (the idea of paying a 
Macromedia employee, not you Dick).  Between my company and our clients, we 
give Macromedia enough money to by a room full of Mac boxes.

Cary

At 07:38 PM 7/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Well, MM's Unix/Linux "special guy" says he will do an Apache thingie*
>for for OS X if offered a simple bribe -- an OS Serve box and a 17" flat
>panel display (I think he should hold out for the 22" studio display)
>
>Anyone want to contribute -- I'll pledge $500 towards a bribe!
>
>* Note "thingie" is a highly technical C++ programming construct.
>
>Dick


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Re: Elaborate plan...

[Cary Gordon]

Sounds like a job for Flash (or Java).

At 11:37 AM 7/22/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I have an application I am working on...
>
>I want each portion of the code to send an HTTP request to a page and
>respond back to my page, however I want the calling page to refresh.  I
>really want some sort of a status maybe a % complete, but how do I get the
>page to constantly refresh.
>
>Any ideas and or examples people have seen would be great.  Sorry I couldn't
>be anymore vague :)  I can see it in my head but not put it in writing...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Neil


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RE: Query of queries oddness

[Cary Gordon]

Actually, that is where I started.  All it did was generate column not 
found errors.

I suspect that the problem lies in the fact that one of the queries is 
really a cfdirectory call.

At 01:55 AM 7/17/2002 +, you wrote:
>I can't see that the code is correct, could I suggest that you try
>(i.e. remove the qualification altogether)
>
>
>#DATELASTMODIFIED#,#NAME#,#SIZE#,#USERNAME#
>
>
>Cheers
>
> >From: Cary Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Query of queries oddness
> >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:18:20 -0700
> >
> >The code is correct.  I did try your suggested changes though.
> >
> >Apparently, the query of queries needs the original query identifier. You
> >can see this in the cfdump and also by outputting a query column list.
> >
> >At 03:02 PM 7/16/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > Errr- could it be because you _reference_ the first query?
> > >
> > > >> 
> > > >>
> > > >> #GETDIR.DATELASTMODIFIED#,#GETDIR.NAME#,#GETDIR.SIZE#,#Q1.USER
> > > >> NAME#
> > > >> 
> > >
> > > > Notice you say getdir.whatever? This is the first query. You are
> >looping
> > > > over 'qq' though.
> > >
> > >And #Q1.UserName# should be #qq.UserName# also
> > >
> > >Isaac Dealey
> > >www.turnkey.to
> > >954-776-0046


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RE: Query of queries oddness

[Cary Gordon]

The code is correct.  I did try your suggested changes though.

Apparently, the query of queries needs the original query identifier. You 
can see this in the cfdump and also by outputting a query column list.

At 03:02 PM 7/16/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > Errr- could it be because you _reference_ the first query?
>
> >> 
> >>
> >> #GETDIR.DATELASTMODIFIED#,#GETDIR.NAME#,#GETDIR.SIZE#,#Q1.USER
> >> NAME#
> >> 
>
> > Notice you say getdir.whatever? This is the first query. You are looping
> > over 'qq' though.
>
>And #Q1.UserName# should be #qq.UserName# also
>
>Isaac Dealey
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Query of queries oddness

[Cary Gordon]

I am having what I see as an anomalous issue with a query of queries. The 
code and the results are below.

One of the queries is a cfdirectory listing.

cfdump'ing the query of queries ("qq") returns the correct data, but 
outputting it does not.

Somehow, the cfoutput of the query of queries is returning the info from 
the first row of the cfdirectory listing, rather than the row that matches 
the test.



 SELECTfiles.fileName, users.UserName
 FROM  files, users
 WHERE   files.fileOwner = users.UserID


 SELECT getdir.name, getdir.size, getdir.datelastmodified, 
q1.UserName
 FROM   getdir, q1
 WHEREgetdir.name = q1.fileName





   #GETDIR.DATELASTMODIFIED#,#GETDIR.NAME#,#GETDIR.SIZE#,#Q1.USERNAME#






Results...

TDIR.DATELASTMODIFIEDGETDIR.NAMEGETDIR.SIZEQ1.USERNAME
07/11/2002 11:53:30 AM testfile.txt 9 Cary Gordon

07/11/2002 04:50:31 PM,.,0,Cary Gordon

ATTRIBUTESDATELASTMODIFIEDMODENAMESIZETYPE
07/11/2002 04:50:31 PM . 0 Dir
07/11/2002 04:50:31 PM .. 0 Dir
A 07/11/2002 11:53:30 AM testfile.txt 9 File


FILENAMEUSERNAME
testfile.txt Cary Gordon




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Slash-like CF app?

[Cary Gordon]

I am looking for a Slash (Slashdot Like Automated Storytelling Homepage) 
type app.  Briefly, Slash and its variants (PHPSlash, etc) allows the 
posting of articles and their threaded discussion.  It is like Forums, but 
subtly different in that it is more magazine-like.


Cary Gordon
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Re: SOT SSL

[Cary Gordon]

This was bound to happen with Thawte.  Verisign's original strategy was to 
keep the Thawte price low, but make them maor challenging to deal with. Now 
they have almost doubled the price, bringing it to just above half of the 
Verisign offering.

I think that the low priced offering from Equifax 
 has taken the regulatory pressure off of 
them to keep their price down.

At 05:27 PM 7/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>personally - I am on the 4th week of a simple renewal to one of my sites
>that has 10,000 unique shoppers a day..
>
>They are horribly slow - I recommend renewing NO less than 1 + months
>prior.
>
>As for the pricing update - for $60 or so dollars a year - I don;t think
>thatis that crazy for the low end cert- still cheaper then other
>options.
>jay miller


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RE: Browser Question

[Cary Gordon]

Browser?  Who needs one?  Real coders just telnet to port 80.  HELO... HELO...


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Re: CFMX on OSX

[Cary Gordon]

But there was no Flash in that past...

At 03:22 PM 6/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Flash from the past  I worked on Maimframes with as little as 2K
>(tubes,before RAM)... my first micro had 4-16K the same as an IBM/360
>Mod 30... long, long ago... in another galexy

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OT: Solaris (was RE: Ebay API Implementation with CF (http/xml))

[Cary Gordon]

I think that the truly outstanding features of Solaris are its 
administration and its patch "cluster" delivery system.

I am not the worlds most experienced Solais admin, but, as our servers to 
not run graphical interfaces, I am used to working from the command 
line.  There is a certain wonderful simplicity to using text based 
configuration files and shell scripts for basic system management.

On the other hand, for all of the Solaris admin books out there, there are 
few good ones (forget Janice Winsor).  If you need one, try UNIX System 
Administration Handbook 3rd Ed by Evi Nemeth (0130206016).

Cary
At 04:10 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > I loathe Solaris and anybody associated with its creation
> > > and distribution. I'm not suprised that they're hard to
> > > come by. I'm trying so hard to convince my bosses to at
> > > least move over to Linux.
> >
> >Out of curiosity, what do you dislike about Solaris that you like better in
> >Linux?
> >
>
>To be perfectly honest with you, I dislike them both. I'm a Windows fan
>myself, and, thus, have a stronger background and much more experience in
>that environment. In a perfect world, I'd be pushing my boss to move over
>into a Win2K environment, but neither he nor our superiors will hear of it
>(whether it be reasonable or not).
>
>The one thing that came to mind when I wrote that e-mail was that the Linux
>companies have always made patches and other updates both readily available
>and easy to install. While "easy to install" is subject to interpretation
>based on your skill set, I'd rather be focusing on other tasks such as
>advancing my CF and SQL skills rather than on my ability to hunt down and
>install the latest patches for Solaris, some of which are a huge pain in the
>ass to install.
>
>My frustration with Solaris lies in that it is very time consuming to
>customize. While recognizing that you could (and to a certain extent,
>should) spend countless hours trying to customize any environment, Windows
>included, it just takes way too long to set up a Solaris box to the point
>where its not only working (functional), but also customized at a basic
>level where its usable.
>
>Again though, I want to make it clear I am by no means a seasoned Solaris
>sys admin, and there are sure to be many out there who could respond to this
>all and say "I can have one up in 15 minutes, you just don't know what
>you're doing." And to a certain extent, that's fair.
>
>But, again, and to answer your question, I just find that the ability to
>accomplish administrative tasks in Linux environment is much easier than a
>Solaris environment, and thus allows me to focus on more critical aspects on
>my job (i.e., architecting apps and coding).
>
>Regards,
>Dave.
>
>
>
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Re: OT: Whats the Deal with XML?

[Cary Gordon]

The deal with XML is that it is a data-centric standard for moving any type 
of information that can be text encoded,  It is platform agnostic, meaning 
that it is designed to deal with anything from a text pager to a mainframe.

XML is self-contained in that it points the receiving application to either 
a DTD or to one or more XSL stylesheets that give that application the 
information it needs to display, process, or store the encapsulated data.

Being text, XML can easily be moved by the existing HTTP and HTTPS protocols.

The point of XML is that it delivers a information in a way that does not 
require a lot of human negotiation between the developers or users on each 
side of the transaction as comma delimited text would.

Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company

At 01:53 PM 5/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I've read it all, seen it in action, heard how great it is but I don't
>get it?
>
>Why is XML so great?  What is it going to enable us to do that we can
>not now? To be honest, it seems like XML is just a fancy way to send
>comma delimited data?
>
>What can we do with xml that we can't do with CFHTTP and a comma
>delimited file?
>
>What am I missing here?  Anything?
>
>Kris Pilles
>Website Manager
>Western Suffolk BOCES
>507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
>Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: JSP IDE

[Cary Gordon]

You might want to check out the Eclipse project   or Forte 
from Sun.

At 12:27 PM 5/2/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Clear DayWhat would knowledgable folks reccomend as an IDE for intense JSP
>development using Apache + TomCat development?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chris Combs
>New Creation Consulting Inc

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RE: CF/Database Help

[Cary Gordon]

I am not Dave, but my company does a lot of work for the government and we 
are always running into this scenario:

The client decided they needed a database back in '84, so "Joe" in the 
phonics department (or whatever) picked up a book on Dbase 3 and wrote one.
The original had 3 tables with about 40 records in each.
Somewhere along the line, they moved to Foxpro, then to Informix (or SQL 
Server or Sybase or who knows)
They now have 172 tables.  The biggest has 622,000 records.
Normalization?
Documentation?
They live, as you might imagine, in abject terror, and, of course,
They need to be able to access the data in its current form so it will work 
with the 300 or so reports that some consultant wrote in RR ReportWriter.

So, having learned many lessons, we insist (we can do this) that they allow 
us to put the data in a reliable structure.  Then we create queries to make 
everything look the funky way that they like it.

The bottom line is that, as an insider, you may not have the clout to pull 
this off by fiat, but once in a great while the voice of reason can be 
heard over the din of the mob.

At 05:42 PM 3/29/2002 -0600, you wrote:

>Dave,
> I have seen some of your other comments and I think I get more
>impressed with your thinking everytime you make a comment. I too believe in
>Data normalization. One of the problems that I am running into now is that
>on the project I am on the data is denormalized and the client (NASA) wants
>to keep using the existing database with existing data. I am making some
>major changes that will help but not fix the problem. If they want even more
>functionality than they have now it will be almost impossible with database
>built the way it is. The worst is the implied foreign key..
>
>Steven Lancaster
>Barrios Technology
>NASA/JSC
>281-244-2444 (voice)
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: OT: IE and view source

[Cary Gordon]

I strongly suggest that you go to 
 and purchase the following:

ESSENCE OF BEND-OVER SPELL KIT: $22.00
To dominate, subjugate, and rule your lover, boss, family member, or rival. 
(or computer...)
1 Black Crucifix candle ($3.00 value)
Essence of Bend-Over Bath Crystals ($2.50 value)
Essence of Bend-Over Dressing Oil ($4.00 value)
Essence of Bend-Over Incense ($2.50 value)
Essence of Bend-Over Sachet Powder ($2.50 value)
Packet of John the Conqueror Root Chips ($2.00 value)
Packet of Calamus Root Chips ($2.00 value)
Packet of Licorice Root Chips ($2.00 value)
Purple Cloth Bag ($1.50 value)
Complete instructions for use

You might also want to consider a:

FEAR NOT TO WALK OVER EVIL SPELL KIT: $34.00
Protection against the work of enemies.
9 White offertory candles ($4.50 value)
Fear Not to Walk Over Evil Powder ($2.50 value)
Fear Not to Walk Over Evil Incense ($2.50 value)
Fear Not to Walk Over Evil Crystals ($2.50 value)
Hot Foot Powder ($2.50 value)
13-Herb Bath ($2.00 value)
Devil's Shoe Strings Curio ($2.00 value)
Fear Not to Walk Over Evil Mojo Bag fixed with metal Skull Charm
and Fear Not to Walk Over Evil Oil ($15.00 value)
Complete instructions for use

And, if that doesn't work, you'll definitely need:

STEADY WORK SPELL KIT: $26.50
Used to get a good job, receive a raise or promotion, and prevent being 
laid off.
1 White Crucifix candle ($3.00 value)
2 Blue offertory candles ($1.00 value)
Steady Work Bath Crystals ($2.50 value)
Steady Work Incense ($2.50 value)
Steady Work Sachet Powder ($2.50 value)
Steady Work Mojo Bag fixed with metal Clock charm
and Steady Work Dressing Oil ($15.00 value)
Complete instructions for use

At 11:32 AM 3/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>All of a sudden, my view source option in IE 6.0 doesn't do anything
>anymore.  It used to show me the source in notepad, which is exactly
>what I want.  Now it doesn't do anything.  Even if I right click and
>view source, it doesn't do anything.  Anybody have any ideas how to fix
>this?
>
>Thanks,
>Matt Small

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Re: SQL lisence headaches

[Cary Gordon]

That would be true were we running applications where stored procedures and 
triggers are absolutely necessary.  The reality for >most< of the world is 
that, while they are useful, they are far from necessary.

For the others, we will keep our behemoth SQL 2k server plugged in for the 
time being.

In the short term, we just put all our sp's back into CF.  For the long 
term, MySQL 4.1 will have stored procedures, nested subqueries and foreign 
key constraints.

At 03:29 PM 3/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>until you need stored procs and triggers ;-)
>
>Bryan Stevenson
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Cary Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:27 PM
>Subject: RE: SQL lisence headaches
>
>
> > We are migrating almost everything to MySQL (CF/Apache) on Linux.  We don't
> > need no stinkin processor licenses.
> >

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RE: SQL lisence headaches

[Cary Gordon]

We are migrating almost everything to MySQL (CF/Apache) on Linux.  We don't 
need no stinkin processor licenses.

At 02:12 PM 3/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Any opinions out there on running SQL on a single proc machine? Is it worth
>it? I've got a site that'll likely get 40,000+ visits in 1-2 months...
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:06 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: SQL lisence headaches
>
>
>Do not buy a cal with it becuase you will need to buy a cal for every web
>visitor you have, and since you will never know how many vistors you get
>you'll end up being in violation of it. You can get a one processor license
>as long as you limit the processors in SQL. HTH
>
>Robert Everland III
>Dixon Ticonderoga
>Web Developer Extraordinaire
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 5:03 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: OT: SQL lisence headaches
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>Can someone out there explain Microsoft's SQL license scheme? I have a
>freakin' law degree and I can't figure it out.
>
>Do I need to buy a 2-processor license for a dual-proc web server? Or is a
>CAL license enough?
>
>I guess I'm wondering if my ColdFusion box counts as one CAL, or whether
>every web visitor counts as one user...
>
>Ian
>
>Portent Interactive
>Using Process, Design and Content to create great web sites since 1995
>Consulting, design, development, measurement
>http://www.portentinteractive.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: SSL Certificates - provider recommendations?

[Cary Gordon]

I have had good results with Thawte as well.  We use there PKI system 
(along with Verisign).

That Aussie sounding fellow is, almost without doubt, South African .

At 08:37 AM 3/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Thawte.com certificates are much cheaper than verisign ones... and they have
>a "partners/resellers" program set up so that your "second" SSL cert will be
>cheaper.
>
>The nice Aussie sounding fellow who hooked me up:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > I need to pick up an SSL certificate, any recommendations or pitfalls I
> > should think about it?
> >
> > Eric

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Re: UDF question

[Cary Gordon]

Jeff,

I have been meaning to talk to you about this.  Yunno, the holidays (take 
your pick) are upon us and business has been a bit slow on the Sabbath 
(again, take your pick).  Heaven is starting to look a little frayed around 
the edges.  Think you might be able to throw a little something on the 
plate?  If not, could you at least come up and mow the lawn...

At 03:54 PM 3/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>   In my world, I view those consultants as gods

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RE: Fusebox pros and cons

[Cary Gordon]

Based on his contributions to this list, I'd guess that there are about a 
dozen...

At 09:11 AM 3/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:
--- snip ---
>it is
>true that any well written CF Application should be logical and structured
>but there aren't that many Dave Watt's et al in the real CF World,  My
>sixpence worth.
>
>Mike Brunt
>Sempra Energy
>213.244.5226

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Re: MySQL Cold Fusion Question?

[Cary Gordon]

You can use Access as a front end to almost anything via ODBC.  On the 
machine with Access, create an ODBC connection to your foreign database - 
this assumes that the database is accessible via the network. Then you can 
either link to or import the foreign database, depending on your needs.

If the database is not accessible via the network, you are down to writing 
a query to generate a delimited file and sneakering it to the Access machine.

At 03:13 PM 2/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: "Carlisle, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:47 PM
>Subject: RE: MySQL Cold Fusion Question?
>
>
> > Would you want to convert so you can easily view table data?  If so, it
>may
> > be better to have Access link to mySQL tables via ODBC.  Access works well
> > to view mySQL table data.  Not sure about actual conversions, though.
>
>
>Can you explain how to link from Access via ODBC to another database.  For
>example, I'm working at Machine A, and the MySQL database resides on Machine
>B (with CF server, IIS, etc.).  I've got an ODBC datasource set up on
>Machine B for use by CF.  Where do I create the Access database?  If I try
>creating the Access DB from machine A, and try to link via ODBC, I can only
>see ODBC datasources located on the local machine.  On the server itself, I
>don't have Access installed.
>
>Thanks,
>Jim
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Re: Osprey?

[Cary Gordon]

Aha.

This sounds like Osprey #1.  Take a look at 
<http://www.activecomputer.com/>.  As I said earlier, it is a front end, so 
you should be able to have your way with the back end.

Cary

At 05:39 PM 2/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>The first one - That sounds like kind of what he described.. It's hard to
>tell; he said you can use SQL and Access to talk to it.
>
>HOWEVER - this is for a legal institution, so I am not sure.   Oh boy, we're
>in for some fun!
>
>Just re-read.. This is what he said:
>"They have an extensive database, running on a SQL server with Osprey and
>Access as the front end.  Osprey is a special design database program, which
>can be manipulated via Access and Sequel statements.  ".
>
>I didn't get the 'SQL server' part the first few times 'round.  So I should
>be able to talk to this thing as if it was JUST a MS's SQL Server (which I
>am VERY familiar with), or is there more too it?
>
>Thanks a lot, Cary!
>
>-Bill
>brainbox
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Cary Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:26 PM
>Subject: Re: Osprey?
>
>
> > There are a couple  "Osprey"s  that I know about. One is a front end that
> > runs against SQL Server on the high end and Access on the low. They claim
> > to support just about anything else. The other is a legal product that
>uses
> > Paradox on the back end.
> >
> > At 03:03 PM 2/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Has anyone worked with an Osprey database?  I couldn't find any specific
> > >references to it on MM's site, and have a client who needs us to
>interface
> > >with their Osprey server.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >-Bill
> > >brainbox
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Re: Osprey?

[Cary Gordon]

There are a couple  "Osprey"s  that I know about. One is a front end that 
runs against SQL Server on the high end and Access on the low. They claim 
to support just about anything else. The other is a legal product that uses 
Paradox on the back end.

At 03:03 PM 2/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone worked with an Osprey database?  I couldn't find any specific
>references to it on MM's site, and have a client who needs us to interface
>with their Osprey server.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-Bill
>brainbox
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RE: request scope.

[Cary Gordon]

Every other language that I can think of (and I can think of plenty) that 
use the term "global" regard items defined as by that term to be accessible 
across the application.

Since, AFAIK, "global" is not defined in the CF language specification, I 
think that it would be a good idea to accept the broader application of the 
term if we are to use it with respect to CF.

At 11:10 AM 1/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>   How would you define global, then?  I suppose it is just a matter of
>perspective.
>   They are not global to the server.  They are not global to the
>application.  They are global to the page request.


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Re: Windows Explorer HTML thumbnails

[Cary Gordon]

They would, but they use up all their resources making those errors in the 
first place...

At 07:16 PM 1/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>You'd think microsoft would spend a little time and put some error
>checking in it's code. I get error's where it tries to read memory
>from NULL's way too often.
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RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...

[Cary Gordon]

Does this mean that I shouldn't have sold my fulfillment copy of Studio on 
Ebay? 
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RE: Password Protecting an Access ODBC connection

[Cary Gordon]

I suppose you could not put the password in the ODBC connection and put it 
in through the query, then encrypt the template.

Please let me know the name of the company so that I don't accidentally 
shop there .

At 02:22 PM 12/21/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>once the odbc connection is created on the box, if anyone knows the dsn name
>they have access to the db. *I THINK* they are planning on storing CC
>numbers in the db.
>
>Duane
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Cary Gordon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:09 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: Password Protecting an Access ODBC connection
>
>
>You can password protect the Access database.  I don't really understand
>what you mean by password protecting an ODBC connection.
>
>At 01:45 PM 12/21/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >A colleague asked if it is possible to password protect an ODBC connection
> >to an access database, but its been so long since I've used MS Access that
> >cant remember. Is this possible?
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Re: Password Protecting an Access ODBC connection

[Cary Gordon]

You can password protect the Access database.  I don't really understand 
what you mean by password protecting an ODBC connection.

At 01:45 PM 12/21/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>A colleague asked if it is possible to password protect an ODBC connection
>to an access database, but its been so long since I've used MS Access that
>cant remember. Is this possible?
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RE: Touch Screen Question!!

[Cary Gordon]

IE and Netscape both have kiosk modes.  You will want to check them out.

At 03:06 PM 11/29/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>yes I am i need to set up a kiosk witha  touch screen.  I just wondered how
>do I go about making it happen!
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Re: AOLServer (was: CF/IIS/Windows security class)

[Cary Gordon]

What is a non-proprietary API?  Aren't APIs by their nature proprietary?

At 01:10 PM 11/29/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>from: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I
> >don't think AOLServer supports any of the "standard" APIs used by other web
> >servers.
>
>What type of 'standard' API do you have in mind?  Considering all the places
>the server is used, I'd be surprised to find some non-proprietary API
>not yet available...
>--
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>Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should
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RE: Announcement: CF/IIS/Windows security class

[Cary Gordon]

Even better (IMHO), why not make it an online class or tutorial?

Cary

At 11:44 AM 11/26/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>And just when are you planning on coming out here to CA to teach it
>Dave??  Hmm?? ;)
>
> Lee
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:58 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT: Announcement: CF/IIS/Windows security class
> >
> >
> > Hi, everyone!
> >
> > I apologize in advance for posting this, but I think that some of you
> > might find it useful. I've just written a one-day CF/IIS/Windows
> > security class aimed at developers and "casual
> > administrators" as well
> > as regular sysadmins. This class originated in the work that
> > I've done
> > to secure servers for Fig Leaf's clients, in (hopefully
> > well-received)
> > presentations done at users' groups, and quite a bit of additional
> > research, testing and organization.
> >
> > I've included the description of the class from our web site.
> > If anyone
> > has any questions, feel free to email me off-list. There's an
> > upcoming
> > Atlanta data: Friday, 7 December, and there are plenty of seats still
> > available. Thanks!
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > phone: (202) 797-5496
> > fax: (202) 797-5444
> >
> > Securing ColdFusion Servers on Windows
> >
> > This one-day "Working in the Trenches" seminar covers building secure
> > ColdFusion application servers on the Windows platform, and keeping
> > them secure. You'll learn how to secure the Windows OS, IIS
> > and CF Server, find and eliminate security holes in your
> > application code, and
> > maintain security on your servers. See how attacks work, and
> > how you can
> > defend against them in depth.
> >
> > There are other security courses out there, but none that
> > cover general
> > Windows Internet server security as well as ColdFusion-specific
> > security: from securing the ColdFusion server itself to securing
> > ColdFusion applications and their dependencies.
> >
> > Not only will you learn the steps to security, you'll also
> > learn how to
> > perform those steps efficiently and quickly, and leave with
> > ready-to-use
> > tools and methodologies you can apply immediately. Lower your TCO and
> > your stress with "Securing ColdFusion Servers on Windows"! This is a
> > lecture course - not hands on.
> >
> > Cost:   $495 per student
> > Instructor: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > Available Dates:
> > Washington, DC - December 5, 2001, January 9, 2002
> > Atlanta, GA - December 7, 2001, January 22, 2002
> > Chicago, IL - December 13, 2001
> >
> > Register today at http://www.figleaf.com/trainingcalendar/


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Re: (OT) Human Click: CF Version?

[Cary Gordon]

Can we see it?

At 10:46 AM 10/2/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I did a "human click" in a coldfusion application once using the jabber
>server and the java applet client
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Re: VBS to CF

[Cary Gordon]

It is not possible to fully address your question with the information 
which you provide.  That said, the number one gotcha in converting asp to 
cf is refusing to believe how simple it is.

In general, unless you are nesting result sets, you want to loop through 
the results using This result line is 
#bar#., or something like that.

At 10:35 AM 9/13/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm looking at some vbs code and want to convert it to CF. I have most of
>it, however, am not quite sure about one spot.
>They use the line of code:
>
>Set orr=DBConnect.Execute(strSQL)
>DBConnect had been set to Creat connection to DB
>strSQL is the name of the query that they wrote.
>
>That makes sense to me. But then they set data fields and then to move to
>the next record they use
>orr.MoveNext
>I'm wondering if there is an equivalent in CF.  I thought a loop query would
>do the trick but I'm not getting the results that I need.
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Re: Repeated emails - OT thread

[Cary Gordon]

I have received five copies of this post...

At 02:18 PM 11/6/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>There was a machine problem that I've since fixed. One of the results will
>be a repeat post or two to a few people. On the plus side, I just rewrote
>the 'cleaner' and bridge portion of the list software for more speed and
>cleaner operation.
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Re: Disabling "back" button

[Cary Gordon]

Actually, I have found that the most effective way of doing this is to set 
up an intermediary "launch" page which takes you to the target page, 
passing any variables, etc. along the way.

In other words, the user starts on page a, follows a link to page b which 
then moves everything along to page c. Every time the user hits the back 
button from page c, they go back to b, which pushes them to page c again.

It is not unbeatable (you can use history), but it is quite effective.  I 
did not invent this, and I think that it is vaguely annoying when I 
encounter it, but  sometimes we have to do what we must.

Cary

At 08:51 PM 9/5/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Is there a possible and simple way to do this - or is it a nightmare to do?
>
>Will
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Re: CF5 Pro SN

[Cary Gordon]

Sounds like a movie title: Mr. Warez makes an honest mistake

Interesting ring to it, no?

At 06:44 AM 8/30/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>It certainly was at least a mistake for him to send it here.  My first
>thought was that he emailed the info to the wrong address.  Making
>honest mistakes should not result in someone being banned from the list.


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RE: Which FTP server for Win 2k

[Cary Gordon]

War FTP has some vulnerabilities that have not been addressed.  I would 
avoid it.

At 02:22 PM 8/28/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>War FTP Daemon is free, but it's a pain to set up.
>
>Serv-U is a great product, but it's not free.
>G6 (Now Bulletproof) is also quite the popular server.


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Re: setting up win2000 ftp

[Cary Gordon]

It is VERY risky to use NT Authentication for FTP.  FTP is clear text only 
(unlike IIS/IE via HTTP).  If at all possible, us anonymous logins and 
restrict access via IP.

Cary Gordon

t 12:16 PM 8/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>FTP is built in to win2000 server.  Al you have to do is turn on the service
>and then use your nt authentication.  Well at least if you are using IIS.
>If not there are bunches of free, easy to use ftp servers on the cnet site.
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>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:41 AM
>Subject: OT: setting up win2000 ftp
>
>
> > I am wotking for a company now that has FrontPage set up as the only way
>to get to the server. This is a major pain because I can't download the site
>so I can work on it. I have to do a "save as" to get any page I want to work
>on to my computer. So what I want to know is, how hard is it to set up FTP
>on a Win 2000 server? I have never done anything like that before so I have
>no idea. Even a link to a site would be a big help.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Phillip
> >
> >
> >
>
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Dodging page timeout

[Cary Gordon]

Is there any way in 4.5x to dodge the page timeout setting in the 
administrator?

I keep it set to 30 seconds, which is plenty for normal activity.

The exception is one page which publishes about 150 discrete, complex html 
pages.  If it ever finished, it would take under 2 minutes. It isn't a 
public page, and only needs to run every other week.

TIA,

Cary Gordon


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Re: We've been assimilated...

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I thought that was one of the key symptoms that you have had one...

At 05:07 PM 8/21/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm still waiting for the Microsoft Neural Implant.


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Re: Yipes - its raining ColdFusion 5 books

[Cary Gordon]

The CF Advanced book from BF and others covers this.  The CF 5 version 
(Advanced Coldfusion 5: Application Development) is due out soon, and I 
assume that it to will cover CFX.

Cary

At 10:34 PM 8/13/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm wondering if anybody is in the works (or know of a book) an in depth book
>on writing C,C++, & Java tags with ColdFusion.
>Also on using dlls & shared objects. Haven't been able to find much 
>documention
>or examples on this.


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Re: Yipes - its raining ColdFusion 5 books

[Cary Gordon]

that just leaves (AFAIK):

Advanced Coldfusion 5: Application Development
By Jeff Taylor
Que; 09/2001
Softcover; 900 pages

Coldfusion
By Shashidhar Kaparthi,Rakhee Kaparthi
Course Technology, Inc.; 07/2001
Softcover; 608 pages

Coldfusion 5 Developer's Guide with Cdrom
By Michael Buffington
Osborne/McGraw-Hill; 11/2001
Softcover; 640 pages

Essential Coldfusion Fast: Developing Web-Based Applications
By Matthew W. Norman
Springer-Verlag New York, Incorporated; 07/2001
Softcover; 266 pages

Foundation Coldfusion 5 for Flash
By Friends of ED
friends of ED; 09/2001
Softcover; 500 pages

I'll stand by my previous statement - Yipes!

Cary Gordon

At 11:53 PM 8/7/2001 +0200, you wrote:
>I am trying to keep an updated list, but it's getting harder:
>
>Professional ColdFusion 5.0
>by Wrox Author Team
>Paperback - 1170 pages (June 2001)
>Wrox Press Inc
>ISBN: 1861004540
>
>Coldfusion 5 Developer's Guide
>Hardcover (May 2001)
>  Osborne McGraw-Hill
>ISBN: 0072132256
>
>Optimizing Coldfusion
>by Chris Cortes
>Paperback - 400 pages (August 2001)
>  Osborne McGraw-Hill
>ISBN: 0072132663
>
>Coldfusion 5 : A Beginner's Guide
>by Lange
>Hardcover (May 2001)
>Osborne McGraw-Hill
>ISBN: 0072191090
>
>Instant Coldfusion 5
>by Jeffry Houser
>Paperback - 640 pages (July 2001)
>Osborne McGraw-Hill
>ISBN: 0072132388
>
>Programming ColdFusion
>by Rob Brooks-Bilson
>  900 pages pages (July 2001)
>O'Reilly & Associates
>ISBN: 1565926986
>
>ColdFusion 5.0 Web Application Construction Kit
>by Ben Forta
>Paperback - 1512 pages 4th edition (July 2001)
>ISBN: 0789725843
>
>Mastering ColdFusion 5
>by Arman Danesh, Kristin Aileen Motlagh, Raymond Camden
>Paperback - 1104 pages (August 15, 2001)
>Sybex
>ISBN: 078212979X
>
>ColdFusion Administrator's Guide
>by Prima (Editor), Prima Development
>Hardcover - 750 pages (August 30, 2001)
>Prima Publishing
>ISBN: 0761534792
>
>Macromedia ColdFusion 5: Training from the Source
>by Kevin A. Schmidt
>Paperback - 400 pages (October 25, 2001)
>Peachpit Press
>ISBN: 0201758474
>
>Core ColdFusion 5
>by Eben Hewitt
>Paperback - 800 pages (October 19, 2001)
>Prentice Hall PTR
>ISBN: 0130660612
>
>Certified Coldfusion 5.0 Developer All-In-One Exam Guide with CDROM
>by Michael Dinowitz, Guy Rish, Hal McElwaine Helms
>Hardcover - 1008 pages (September 2001)
>Unknown
>ISBN: 0072132345
>
>Foundation ColdFusion 5 for Flash
>by TBA
>Our Price: $39.99
>Paperback - 500 pages (September 2001)
>Friends of Ed
>ISBN: 1903450403
>
>Massimo


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Yipes - its raining ColdFusion 5 books

[Cary Gordon]

A search at FatBrain 
<http://www1.fatbrain.com/search/searchresults.asp?SearchFunction=key&qtext=coldfusion>
 
reveals 11 new CF books, not including, for some reason, the new WACK.

Notable titles include:  Adv anced Coldfusion 5: Application Development By 
Jeff Taylor (September); Macromedia Coldfusion: Training from the Source By 
K. Schmidt (October); and Certified Coldfusion 5.0 Developer All-in-One 
Exam Guide with Cdrom By Michael Dinowitz,Hal McElwaine Helms,Guy Rish 
(October).

I am buying stock in Lasik.


Cary Gordon
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