RE: Multiple File Upload
In regard to uploads, there have been numerous requests for an extended API for file uploads in browsers, and they are under consideration with browser developers. We are talking about at least the basics like: - the amount of bytes uploaded - the total amount of bytes - the transferring speed - time information, elapsed, required - get file size before starting an upload - programmatically abort, pauze, etc. In general the upload functionality should get improvements, but the question is when. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:216641 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control
That does not solve the problem, it only covers the problem up. What does SQL Profiler tell you, what is happening in terms of SQL Server traffic? Maybe Macromedia can come up with an answer, my guess is you are not the only one with this bug. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 24 augustus 2005 15:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me. Every four hours I have to reboot. I am sure others dealt with this, any advice? I have the cumulative hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything is up to date. Besides performing an exorcism? Thanks. If you think it might be client variable related, disable global client variable updates in CF Admin. Or whatever it's called. :P s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:216182 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: .NET suggestions
Tom, Not to mention you might like C#, most do but are only afraid of the initial complexity. Just the learning curve you need to pass. Within a month you figured out that datasets are not all that ;) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 22 augustus 2005 14:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: .NET suggestions I just want to thank everyone for their kind suggestions. On 8/20/05, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your CTO is dead set on not using CFML and you need to get knee deep in ASP.Net, then I suggest picking up the following book: Well, he's not mine, but the situation is likely to fall out that way. Again, thanks to all for your help. Besides, learning another technology may be a pain, but it's not a bad thing. And they could have chosen to find another development firm, too. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 530 Means St NW, Suite 110 Atlanta, GA 30318 404.589.0560 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215891 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFDUMP for PHP
Claude, It does, but IE does it in a different way and returns the line in such a way you should look at it like all files would have been expanded. Is it intuitive, not exactly. Either way, for debugging purposes there are excellent tools available, like the MS script debugger, and Venkman. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 19 augustus 2005 13:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDUMP for PHP I've been working on something similar for JavaScript. Just a bit OT in this OT subject, one thing I've always been dreaming of would be some way to find the EXACT line in which Javascript file where an error occurs. MSIE is really idiot in that matter, just giving the line number. In a CF file including Jvascript code, the line number has nothing to do with the real line in the original file. It also only gives the file name of the page in which a Javascript file is included, not the JS file itself :-( If one could at least display the line and the true file name, it would really help. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215747 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: .NET suggestions
Tom, There are several very good books available to get you started. ASP.NET Website Programming by Marco Bellinaso and Kevin Hoffman is a good book covering the basics of the framework. Iit assumes you know a fair deal of c# and starts with building a foundation for further use throughout the book, and then covering 3 tier development, io operations by building a file manager, database operations by building a portal, basic security foundations for .NET, and in the end you will have build a complete portal with user management, forums, a blog, and file management. It also addresses aspects like caching techniques, webservices, xslt etc. A good start for the newcomer. The most difficult part I experienced in the learning process was to figure out, if what I wanted to do was already available in the .NET framework. There is just so much to find out, but it is real fun and development speed is very high. Micha From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 8/19/2005 5:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: .NET suggestions To Kevin and Matthew -- Thanks for the references. To others, particularly Matt, since he's the one who raised the real issue -- I'm well aware of BD .NET and its advantages. I've had lunch with Charlie Arehart and Brian O'Reilly. (And for that matter, Brian called me a few minutes ago because of this post). But while I wouldn't characterize the situation exactly as Matt did, it does seem (at the moment) as if the determination is that the CF code base will be replaced. I intend to discuss Blue Dragon as an option with this client. But my current guess is that he will choose to rewrite the applications to eliminate the CFML. If that's the final decision, then we will need to be writing C#, I guess. And if we get to that point -- does anyone else have any other suggestions for the best books/courses/online resources? -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 530 Means St NW, Suite 110 Atlanta, GA 30318 404.589.0560 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215835 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: .NET suggestions
Tom, Then there is another good book, and that is (and ofcourse there are many others) C# for Professionals from Wrox. It is about 1300 pages, and covers literally everything for C#. Micha From: Tom McNeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 8/19/2005 10:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: .NET suggestions Charles -- Thanks, I had forgotten about that comparison. A little outdated, but helpful. And Micha -- Iit assumes you know a fair deal of c# . but if I don't? (which I don't yet, though I'd rather learn C# than VBScript). -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 530 Means St NW, Suite 110 Atlanta, GA 30318 404.589.0560 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215842 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax and CFCs
Microsoft provides a free webservice.htc to accommodate SOAP operations with Javascript. There are several good implementations for SOAP support in Javascript. Bindows for example depends on it. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Terry Nisenbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 18 augustus 2005 5:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CFCs You mean like web services or WDDX? mike chambers Yes, I mean something like SOAP. SOAP would be a good candidate to implement in JavaScript (Flash already has it), but the protocol has gotten to be too complex and getting it right would be a complicated task - eventually it may not worth the effort. Even in Flash, some things still do not work right (for example when you have to customize target namespace for an operation). I believe there should be a simple platform neutral XML-based protocol that would allow integration of a rich client with any kind of server side component cheers, Terry ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215563 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax and CFCs
I agree with you totally on the format. There are several ideas within the W3 for a new format, and they are more or less the direct result of RSS being to leverage complex data. However, I do think this is not an issue with missing a standard. It is the issue of a SOAP standard not being supported0. We can introduce numerous of new standards, but it in the end it all comes down to the vendors supporting it. Even then, I don't think you need standards for everything. There are numerous options in providing your applications with non standardized data but that involves manual work just like the good old days. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 16:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs \ -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs The amount of consistency is in the hands of the developer. It just is about documenting the format. You're thinking too small here, Micha. We're not saying we can't get the job done - this isn't a help me get this out the door issue. It's a broader question. Why should such a fundamental thing as passing structured data be left completely to individual implementation? Why should that implementation be tightly coupled to the solution built? Why shouldn't my interface be able to switch from obtaining data from CF to obtaining data from WebSphere without having to rebuild the transport mechanism on WebSphere? The complaint (well... my complaint) is that this is such a low level issue. Passing structured data from a server to a client needs to be solved by EVERY SINGLE person doing AJAX style applications. Yet we have hundreds if not thousands of incompatible solutions. When you see that doesn't it at least indicate to you that a useful umbrella standard would be a useful thing? Again, it's not that it can't be done or that doing a one-off or a personal standard is difficult. It's that the situation is screaming for a clear, widely-adoptable standard. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215389 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion
Simmyana, What have you tried already to get things working, or do you have examples on which we can comment on. Did you look at code examples, documentation or something like that? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215128 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion
In your current situation you can only have one node in a specific level
expanded. Try looking at a way to store the expanded entries of childs
of a parent, instead of storing them in a list form.
What you have now, is
a,b,c,d,e
But what you should look into is
a = a,b
b = c,d
etc.
You should be able to do this with some basic recursion.
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-Original Message-
From: simmyana a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 9:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion
This is what i did, but i am unable to track the expanded subcategories
any help?
cfparam name=categoryids default=
InvalidTag language=javascript
/*function node(id)
{
window.location=testbgTreeview.cfm?id= + id;
} */
function submitform(id)
{
document.myform.action=testbgTreeview.cfm?id= + id;
document.myform.method=post;
document.myform.submit();
}
/script
cfquery name=GetLevelOne datasource=#dbname#
Select * from bgcategory where categorylevel=0 order by
categoryname
/cfquery
cfset categoryids=
cfif IsDefined('url.id')
cfif form.categoryids eq ''
cfset categoryids=#url.id#
cfelse
cfset categoryids=form.categoryids , #url.id#
/cfif
/cfif
cfoutput#categoryids#/cfoutput
form name=myform action=testbgTreeview.cfm method=post
cfoutput query=GetLevelOne
table border=0
tr
td onClick=javascript:submitform(#categoryid#)img
src=images/section_expand.gif#categoryname#/td
/tr
/table
/cfoutput
cfif isdefined('url.id')
cfloop list=categoryids index=j
cfquery name=GetLevelOne
datasource=#dbname#
Select * from bgcategory where
supercategoryid=#url.id# and categoryid#url.id# order by categoryid
/cfquery
cfoutput query=GetLevelOne
table border=0
tr
cfif GetLevelOne.categorylevel gt 0
cfloop from=1
to=#GetLevelOne.categorylevel# index=i
tdnbsp;/td
/cfloop
/cfif
td
onClick=javascript:submitform(#GetLevelOne.categoryid#)img
src=images/section_expand.gif#categoryname#/td
/tr
/table
/cfoutput
/cfloop
/cfif
cfoutput
input type=hidden name=categoryids value=#categoryids#
/cfoutput
/form
Simmyana,
What have you tried already to get things working, or do you have
examples on which we can comment on. Did you look at code examples,
documentation or something like that?
Micha Schopman
Project Manager
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
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RE: Ajax and CFCs
Just wondering, why would you want to communicate with SOAP envelopes in the first place? If you are exchanging data with such complex structures it is clearly a case of the wrong approach towards the Ajax pattern. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: wolf2k5 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 10:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CFCs On 8/15/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I'm sure it's incredibly useful to many for current purposes there should be no server-side footprint. CF and BD already do SOAP-based services via CFC, .NET does them automatically as well. WebSphere has built-in thingies. The best solution would be to consume these native services with client-side code. Do you know any AJAX library or code sample that consumes CF web services (SOAP) natively? Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215134 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: bg myspace
I'd rather care about the details instead of worrying about whether a specific percentage of the server already is running BlueDragon. I am interested in parts like incompatibility issues, speed improvements (especially since they are running the .NET version ?) , stability improvements, etc. cost savings, and most of all the opinion of those who are developing on BlueDragon at MySpace. Seriously, did people really think MySpace would migrate such a platform in just some weeks? The discussion more or less looks like let's find a weak spot in the replies while it can be such an interesting discussion about the early results of the migration. Some statements made could have been marketing talk, too bad, that is the nature of a business. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 10:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace Here's a few more: http://games.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 http://favorites.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 http://blog.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 http://invite.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace Vince, I believe the conflict is over this: http://www.myspace.com/Application.cfm http://mail.myspace.com/Application.cfm - BlueDragon http://forum.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 http://browseusers.myspace.com/ - ASP.NET http://search.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 http://signup.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 http://groups.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 http://events.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 http://music.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 http://classifieds.myspace.com/Application.cfm - CF5 As Vince himself said, most of the site is still running CF5 (which was exactly what I said on my blog, quoting his own words). Sean (who doesn't like being called a liar in public even when he is on sabbatical!) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215136 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax and CFCs
Are there requirements for such changes (AjaxFlash), if not, is this not a clear example of phantom requirements? I personally would not use a CFC in a web service model for supplying the interface with data. I'd rather use a specialized presentation layer providing formatted datasets in a XML stream. This is a far more lightweight solution than SOAP envelopes, and allows future use of a different specialized presentation layer to accommodate different platforms. This specialized layer is also responsible for initially handling post requests. But as I always say, do you want to create widgets following the Ajax design pattern, or do you want to deliver fully blown dynamic interfaces where you limit the chances of hitting a postback event. If it is the latter, expect some heavy studying in all sorts of web technologies and a lot of practice. Many people like to talk about it but those who actually do can be counted on one hand. At least, try to avoid injecting complete code. Try setting up a framework around DOM methods. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: wolf2k5 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 11:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CFCs On 8/16/05, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering, why would you want to communicate with SOAP envelopes in the first place? If you are exchanging data with such complex structures it is clearly a case of the wrong approach towards the Ajax pattern. My plan it to do as little as possible server-side code changes for the AJAX interface. Since my application already uses CFCs, it would be great to re-use the same methods for the AJAX interface. Do you mean that I should avoid complex structures in my AJAX interface? I know that SOAP has some overhead over plain XML data, but I think that the advantage of reusing the same code is a winner here. Please let me know if I am missing something that will prevent me from doing that. Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215148 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: bg myspace
What's wrong with that statement? They do run BlueDragon, and I never see them mentioning that the entire server park runs BlueDragon. They only say, MySpace runs BlueDragon. Just a matter of marketing. People seem to handle the same type of Macromedia marketing talk very well, why is that different with New Atlanta. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 12:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace On 8/15/05, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some quotes, starting with the original press release: MySpace is switching to BlueDragon.NET to improve the performance and reliability... New Atlanta has just announced that MySpace.com, the world's busiest ColdFusion-based web site, is switching to BlueDragon.NET... At the Friday keynote session at CFUNITED-05, Peter Amiri, Director of Technical Operations for MySpace.com, gave an informative and entertaining presentation about the history and growth of MySpace, and the reasons why the site is being migrated to BlueDragon.NET... And from Rey Bango's original post to CF-Talk: In a huge coup, my boys at New Atlanta have won a MAJOR deal and are helping MySpace.com, the fifth most heavily trafficked web site on the Internet, make the switch from Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 to New Atlanta's BlueDragon for .NET Vince What about: 'The #1 CFML website is powered by CFML' 'Hear MySPace.com Tell their success story at Friday's Keynote' Do you remember what this is from? The banner hanging in the main CFUnited room all week. http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/23435256/ -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com http://Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215154 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: bg myspace
Marketing is misleading ... Have you ever heard Microsoft stating in their TV commercials they make software that might fail? In general they say, bigger, better, faster, so I should then assume it should never crash. Just a stupid comparison but I am trying to say, to prevent overreacting to statements made. I think everybody has enough brain threads open to process a marketing poster. Micha Schopman Project Management Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 13:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace I think I covered this in my response earlier. Stating myspace is on BD, implies that all of it is, or even at the very least, most of it is. But the truth is that most of myspace is on CF5. Thus the appearance of being misleading in the marketing speak. And actually, this list also takes MM to task for such things as well from my memory. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace What's wrong with that statement? They do run BlueDragon, and I never see them mentioning that the entire server park runs BlueDragon. They only say, MySpace runs BlueDragon. Just a matter of marketing. People seem to handle the same type of Macromedia marketing talk very well, why is that different with New Atlanta. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 12:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace On 8/15/05, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some quotes, starting with the original press release: MySpace is switching to BlueDragon.NET to improve the performance and reliability... New Atlanta has just announced that MySpace.com, the world's busiest ColdFusion-based web site, is switching to BlueDragon.NET... At the Friday keynote session at CFUNITED-05, Peter Amiri, Director of Technical Operations for MySpace.com, gave an informative and entertaining presentation about the history and growth of MySpace, and the reasons why the site is being migrated to BlueDragon.NET... And from Rey Bango's original post to CF-Talk: In a huge coup, my boys at New Atlanta have won a MAJOR deal and are helping MySpace.com, the fifth most heavily trafficked web site on the Internet, make the switch from Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 to New Atlanta's BlueDragon for .NET Vince What about: 'The #1 CFML website is powered by CFML' 'Hear MySPace.com Tell their success story at Friday's Keynote' Do you remember what this is from? The banner hanging in the main CFUnited room all week. http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/23435256/ -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com http://Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215167 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: bg myspace
My car is powered by Diesel. ... it does use oil though, and has some fluids for the window washers, etc. ;) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 14:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace Actually, the banner says The #1 CFML Website is powered by Blue Dragon Not The #1 CFML Website runs Blue Dragon Or The #1 CFML Website uses Blue Dragon Just a clarification. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace What about: 'The #1 CFML website is powered by CFML' I would hope that its powered by CFML. LOL! Sorry Scott, I couldn't resist. 'Hear MySPace.com Tell their success story at Friday's Keynote' Do you remember what this is from? The banner hanging in the main CFUnited room all week. http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/23435256/ Scott, its all based on interpretation. As Micha mentioned, the banner only says that MySpace runs BD.Net. Rey... -- http://www.ReyBango.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215170 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: bg myspace
Afaik, they were already running a mix of ASP.NET and CF5. The high performance parts seem to be made in ASP.NET. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 14:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace Not at all. According to my understanding of Vince's description they are migrating entire applications at a time. So according to that and the description of an application (app.myspace.com), it stands to reason that each app is either all CF5 or all BD. Notwithstanding that there may be some variances that may make such an architecture (mixed application servers for one application) undesirable. I certainly wouldn't choose a mixed production environment! - Calvin -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace Um, isn't the idea of a server farm that while you may hit one of those pages and get CF 5.0, I may hit one of those pages and get BD.net? On 8/16/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a few more: http://games.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 http://favorites.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215174 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: bg myspace
If they need 15 server to handle a mail application then there must be something terribly wrong. There are comparable sites which ran their entire non cached site on 15 servers with relatively same amount of hits. Not to mention they seem to run an application pool for each section of the site, pfeww... I have the idea they need a lot of restructuring. I could be dead wrong, but something does not look right here. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 14:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace I based my understanding on this Hi Scott, The MySpace server cluster is segregated into application pools. There are just over 30 separate applications that make up the MySpace web site. If you go to the MySpace web site, you'll notice URLs for mail.myspace.com, forums.myspace.com, music.myspace.com, etc.; these define the separate applications. For example, the mail application pool consists of 15 servers that only serve the mail application (mail.myspace.com). The upgrade from CF5 to BD.NET is being done one application at a time. Since I know which applications have been upgraded to BD.NET and which are still running on CF5, I can tell whether a problem is with a BD.NET server pool or CF5 server pool based on which application is exhibiting the problem (for example, in an earlier comment, Bill said he was having problems with the home page, which is still running on a CF5 server pool). Posted By Vince Bonfanti at 7/29/05 2:24 PM Ref: http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryId-116 -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace Hm... I thought I recalled from the keynote that they said they migrated an entire server to BD and then threw it up there to see how it coped in the melee. I might be remembering wrong, though. Certainly, it makes more sense to do applications at once - but I just thought that I had heard it differently. (And, one of the things that Sean listed as BD came up with the CF 5.0 error when I hit it.) On 8/16/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at all. According to my understanding of Vince's description they are migrating entire applications at a time. So according to that and the description of an application (app.myspace.com), it stands to reason that each app is either all CF5 or all BD. Notwithstanding that there may be some variances that may make such an architecture (mixed application servers for one application) undesirable. I certainly wouldn't choose a mixed production environment! - Calvin -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace Um, isn't the idea of a server farm that while you may hit one of those pages and get CF 5.0, I may hit one of those pages and get BD.net? On 8/16/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a few more: http://games.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 http://favorites.myspace.com/application.cfm CF5 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215181 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: bg myspace
Mark, That's true, I assumed they would run top notch hardware. I made the comparison to sites running high performance hardware with a relatively similar amount of hits looking at the server amount. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 14:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace Micha, Wouldn't that depend on a lot of variables? what kind of servers, what are the resources, how are they configured, hot spares etc.? It takes 5 metros to haul the same amount of cargo as 1 van - right? -Mark -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace If they need 15 server to handle a mail application then there must be something terribly wrong. There are comparable sites which ran their entire non cached site on 15 servers with relatively same amount of hits. Not to mention they seem to run an application pool for each section of the site, pfeww... I have the idea they need a lot of restructuring. I could be dead wrong, but something does not look right here. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 14:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: bg myspace I based my understanding on this Hi Scott, The MySpace server cluster is segregated into application pools. There are just over 30 separate applications that make up the MySpace web site. If you go to the MySpace web site, you'll notice URLs for mail.myspace.com, forums.myspace.com, music.myspace.com, etc.; these define the separate applications. For example, the mail application pool consists of 15 servers that only serve the mail application (mail.myspace.com). The upgrade from CF5 to BD.NET is being done one application at a time. Since I know which applications have been upgraded to BD.NET and which are still running on CF5, I can tell whether a problem is with a BD.NET server pool or CF5 server pool based on which application is exhibiting the problem (for example, in an earlier comment, Bill said he was having problems with the home page, which is still running on a CF5 server pool). Posted By Vince Bonfanti at 7/29/05 2:24 PM Ref: http://www.doughughes.net/index.cfm/page-blogLink/entryId-116 -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace Hm... I thought I recalled from the keynote that they said they migrated an entire server to BD and then threw it up there to see how it coped in the melee. I might be remembering wrong, though. Certainly, it makes more sense to do applications at once - but I just thought that I had heard it differently. (And, one of the things that Sean listed as BD came up with the CF 5.0 error when I hit it.) On 8/16/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at all. According to my understanding of Vince's description they are migrating entire applications at a time. So according to that and the description of an application (app.myspace.com), it stands to reason that each app is either all CF5 or all BD. Notwithstanding that there may be some variances that may make such an architecture (mixed application servers for one application) undesirable. I certainly wouldn't choose a mixed production environment! - Calvin -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: bg myspace Um, isn't the idea of a server farm that while you may hit one of those pages and get CF
RE: Ajax and CFCs
What type of structured data? The only thing you need to pass is XML. A CFML Struct can be serialized into a XMLDocument, and the same counts for Arrays, Lists, Queries, etc. you name it. Maybe I am missing the entire idea behind your goals :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CFCs On Monday 15 August 2005 20:12, Jim Davis wrote: 2) Passing structured data once you access them. It's the second bit that gets confusing as hell. It's trival to write toXML() methods on all your objects. MM even have a query2xml on DevNet. People that say things are trivial annoy me. ;^P It IS trivial on the server-side - not so trivial on the client side. Also it's trivial to write _A_ packet on the server and _A_ consumer on the client for that one packet... but as you build more and more one-offs it gets less and less trivial. Again (and again and again) what we really need is a decent client-side parser for common formats. The only truly common format right now is SOAP-based web services (although they're still flaky as hell). IF you had such a library, completely client-side, you could instantly (in theory) consume web services from nearly all major server-side packages - most with little to now extra coding. What we really need is a rich, client-implementable _standard_ for transmission of structured data over HTTP. Something that (I think) needs to be a little more complex than JSON but not as complex as SOAP. Something like WDDX could have fit well... but it seems to have withered on the vine. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215216 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax and CFCs
The amount of consistency is in the hands of the developer. It just is about documenting the format. Do you have a situation where you problem appears? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 15:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs Yes, but a query will have a consistent xml structure that can then be consistently accessed by JS (think WDDX). I think that's what folks are after. I'm not entirely sure why WDDX isn't being talked about more in regards to AJAX... -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs What type of structured data? The only thing you need to pass is XML. A CFML Struct can be serialized into a XMLDocument, and the same counts for Arrays, Lists, Queries, etc. you name it. Maybe I am missing the entire idea behind your goals :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 16 augustus 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CFCs On Monday 15 August 2005 20:12, Jim Davis wrote: 2) Passing structured data once you access them. It's the second bit that gets confusing as hell. It's trival to write toXML() methods on all your objects. MM even have a query2xml on DevNet. People that say things are trivial annoy me. ;^P It IS trivial on the server-side - not so trivial on the client side. Also it's trivial to write _A_ packet on the server and _A_ consumer on the client for that one packet... but as you build more and more one-offs it gets less and less trivial. Again (and again and again) what we really need is a decent client-side parser for common formats. The only truly common format right now is SOAP-based web services (although they're still flaky as hell). IF you had such a library, completely client-side, you could instantly (in theory) consume web services from nearly all major server-side packages - most with little to now extra coding. What we really need is a rich, client-implementable _standard_ for transmission of structured data over HTTP. Something that (I think) needs to be a little more complex than JSON but not as complex as SOAP. Something like WDDX could have fit well... but it seems to have withered on the vine. Jim Davis ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:215222 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ajax and CFCs
Vince, Have there been any specific reasons you know of for taking such a proprietary approach or was it mainly aimed towards best performance because of its close integration? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 15 augustus 2005 13:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs Jim, The WebORB implementation doesn't use SOAP or web services to invoke CFCs on BlueDragon--instead, WebORB invokes them directly via BlueDragon's internal APIs. Also, WebORB works with both the Java/J2EE and .NET editions of BlueDragon. Vince Bonfanti http://blog.newatlanta.com New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax and CFCs -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax and CFCs There is nothing there that couldn't be done with CFMX (or any other server language). It is a simple request / response using AJAX. JavaScript sends data to ColdFusion, ColdFusion sends a response back, JavaScript updates the page. My guess (nothing more) is that it the same problem that other SOAP implementations have: they don't like each other. MS implementations work great with .NET service but bomb on CFMX services for example. CF implementations work great in some places and blow up in others... In my experience these problems, once dug out, are pretty small - but that doesn't matter because it seems the implementers don't really care all that much - it works for what they want it to work with and everybody else can just toe the line or use something else. It's also very likely (because SOAP isn't all that simple) that they're using some off-the-shelf implementation inside this thing. And if that implementation doesn't support CF SOAP/WSDL then this thing won't. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214968 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfschedule tag problem.
Jeff, You might try disabling friendly error messages to get a more useful message from IE. You'll find it in the IE options dialog. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Jeff W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 15 augustus 2005 15:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfschedule tag problem. I have an issue running a cfschedule tag in my code. This is what I run CFSCHEDULE ACTION=Run TASK=#Trim(TaskName)# The taskname variable is the exact name of the task I want to run. I get this error. 500 Internal Server Error NULL Is this an IIS security setting or something else?? Thanks.. Jeff ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214972 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Studio 8 announced
Welcome to the world where money has to be made and time is short. The funny thing is that we actually just simply mentioned a future point for improvement on Eclipse blinkacceptance/blink for web development related tasks in comparison with Dreamweaver and you here you are ranting all again about nothing and completely out of the blue. Do you need vacation? Micha Schopman Project Manager -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 0:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced Blablabla M$ blabla T-shirt blabla .. cheap ... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214697 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion
You are free to use http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6.2/. It lacks in documentation, but some of the methods can be found in the previous version demo http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6/treeview.html Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: simmyana a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 4:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion client side widgetas our client is using CF5, we can't use recursive function to display any help would be appreciated Are you looking for a server control solution or a client side widget? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 --- - --- - - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl --- - --- - - -Original Message- From: simmyana a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 4 augustus 2005 10:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion Hi, I need the code to display the items in a dynamic tree view pattern similar to windows explorer. can anyone help me with this? thanks ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214698 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion
That entirely depends on the developer. You just feed it with valid XML, or static calls. How you create the xml is up to you. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: simmyana a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 8:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion this is our table structure ID | Name | Level | ParentId is it possible to implement tree view using this data? You are free to use http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6.2/. It lacks in documentation, but some of the methods can be found in the previous version demo http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6/treeview.html Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 --- - --- - - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl --- - --- - - -Original Message- From: simmyana a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 4:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion client side widgetas our client is using CF5, we can't use recursive function to display any help would be appreciated - -- - - - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl -- - - -- - - ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214701 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Studio 8 announced
Nobody said it should be free, nobody said it must be done by someone else, the only thing said was if there would be such a package available that would be nice and it would push acceptance for Eclipse. When people comment on lack of product features, nice to have features or missing functionality which they would like to see that does not mean they dislike or even hate the product. Read carefully, because you are creating statements and opinions nobody expressed just because you think people are like that. Read, instead of assume. If you disagree with specific points, discuss with arguments, and not with bluntly trolls. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 9:28 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced i just wasted an hour typing your responce micha and it timed out so screw it. I was refering to you comments about why doesnt someone else make it, complile it and distribute it and it shouldnt cost me anything garbage you wrote. If someone puts their time into making a tool that is of use to u then you shouldnt expect it to be free. After all you arent making your web apps for free are you? And the whole point to this rant is that if the cheap asses would actually support our products then we'd have more pull to get the features we want. Why do you stay on here even? As far as I know you dont like nor support coldfusion ~Dave the disruptor~ A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation. From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:42 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced Welcome to the world where money has to be made and time is short. The funny thing is that we actually just simply mentioned a future point for improvement on Eclipse acceptance for web development related tasks in comparison with Dreamweaver and you here you are ranting all again about nothing and completely out of the blue. Do you need vacation? Micha Schopman Project Manager -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 0:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced Blablabla M$ blabla T-shirt blabla .. cheap ... ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214705 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Studio 8 announced
Those are also part of PHP, even in the first versions of PHP they were natively supported in a large amount of variations capable of handling almost anything you want. It just is so simple but people don't like to admit it. PHP just has a larger community and that is all. The PHP basics to get you up and running are just like ColdFusion very easy. It is easy to make something, and as with all languages, when the learning curve is low, you will see more amateur code around. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 14:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced You are right, there arent as many resources out there for code samples and scripts for ColdFusion. The reason? Because most of those scripts are already a part of ColdFusion. (list functions, array functions, etc.) -Adam On 8/12/05, Russ Michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.resourceindex.com And all the other free script sites. If this is nonsense, please show me all the thousands of CF scripts to match the thousands of perl/ASP/PHP scripts. Especially considering most of them don't even list coldfusion. Russ -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 August 2005 02:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced Russ Michaels wrote: Eveyone else is the same, why do you think PHP has such a big community. Altho what does suck, is that no-one gives anything away for FREE in CF. that's nonsense. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214722 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Studio 8 announced
Not to mention, just like it is with PHP, in general the quality is very low and too limited for the more demanding tasks. I think, the only time I actually bought something it was a Rijndael encryption algorithm because CF did not supported strong encryption algorithms at that time. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 14:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced I don't understand why so many people go looking for free scripts and stuff in CF. If CF is touted as a rapid development language, doesn't that mean you should be able to write it yourself? I hear comments all the time that come across as people being lazy or people being cheap, but you never know people's situations. The whole point of the community is to bring people together who are different. Everyone just deal with it and quit complaining. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214731 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Studio 8 announced
Sell baseball caps with a B. Forta fake beard attached to it. That is definitely a best seller. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 12 augustus 2005 14:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio 8 announced As for the comments about not buying t-shirts, what the heck did that have to do with anything? I personally am not a fan of the shirts that were made and wouldn't put them in the category of Cool coldfusion gear in my opinion, but it's a start. I applaud Will for starting something and giving it a try. Jeeez! Well thanks ... I guess. *I* think they're pretty killer lookin', and most of the comments I've received have been very positive. Just depends on everyones' tastes I guess. I'm workin' on some new designs too. :) Thanks, Will ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214740 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Looking for very simple CMS
They probably won't even want to talk to you for a minor deal of $500. You are talking with sales people, not with donkeys ;) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 Has anyone been shopping for a $500 CMS solution and really been talked into a $14K solution? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214516 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Studio 8 announced
But does that zip contain a full IDE implementing the list I mentioned? I haven't seen one yet. When someone stands up, and builds an installer encapsulating this all you have a winner, but now it costs too much money. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 9:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced Installer? What can simpler than downloading a zip - unzip it, copy it to a folder and click on Eclipse.exe - no reg keys, not added bloat. -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 August 2005 20:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio 8 announced The lack of a descent one in all installer is currently holding back Eclipse. People don't have the time to go through the entire process, of downloading Eclipse, downloading the Web toolkit, downloading the prequisites of that toolkit, downloading CFEclipse, etc. If they managed to put this all into one package, so that you get easily started with an Eclipse installation where you can edit xml,xsl,javascript,(x)html,css,cfml,php without going to that proces. And maybe it is there already, and I just did not searched good enough ;) As far as DW 8 concerned. For me personally the real good feature is code collapse, but I hope they didn't took the CFStudio/Homesite codebase for this functionality, because everybody who used it in those old products, knows that when you collapsed a large amount of code, scrolling the document was a pain in the ass. So at least I hope that they did look at this feature. I like the enhanced compliance tests showed in the demo on the MM site, but for some reason I hope for more. Like that they - fixed the numerous issues involved with the treeview in DWMX - crashes when searching through folders with find replace (and they occured on specific xml files) - showing the directory path of a occurence within search results so that I might now which one of the 1001 index.cfm's in the results belongs to which project. - step into, just like Eclipse has on folders - enabling selection and printing of the reference inside DW - fixing the lookup of selections on search - split code view, like cfstudio had - breakdown of cfc's in a project If they at least payed attention to the treeview they have a buyer, but I hope they improve the support of the product. I don't understand why there haven't been released more updaters for DWMX 2004. I hope they pay more attention to existing customers :) Micha ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214138 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfform file upload
The widget acts like I am using a 1000mbit pipe (I wish). Transferring 14.5MB in just 5 seconds ... Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 9 augustus 2005 14:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfform file upload It has a PROGRESS BAR! Did I mention that part?? YA!!! :) Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214165 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Deployment of Multiple Websites with almost identical Info
Butch, We have developed an inhouse product which does such but it is sold on an asp basis (and I am working on an opensource variant for the future), so I can give you globally the idea how we did this and look. Each site is an application based on a cm system. They all use the same codebase, whereas each object is available as a shared object. If there is a bug in the object, a single file change would accommodate all clients. So if you have 20 sites they all are fixed at once. For the sites who require custom objects they can be overridden. By per site configuration you can specify the database to use, and you are able to share content stores, workflow, etc. whatever you need. Maybe you should take a look at FarCry (or if you have the money, CommonSpot), I bet they deliver similair functionality without the need for you to reinvent the wheel. cms -- nonwww -- www.domain1.com -- www.domain2.com -- objects -- article -- page -- etc. -- assets -- www -- shared -- objects -- page -- article edit.cfm -- sitedata -- www.domain1.com -- www.domain2.com From: Butch Zaccheo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 8/8/2005 6:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Deployment of Multiple Websites with almost identical Info Hi Everyone, My company has asked me to deploy multiple websites for multiple countries each with it¹s own domain. Each country will have info slightly modified to reflect their own information (events, news, special promos), but the bulk of the information will be the same. Here¹s my question: 1. What are other web developers doing in this circumstance? 2. Is there cf content management software that would allow me to use multiple domains and maintain only one whole site, sharing pages that would be the same for every site? 3. Or should I deploy a site for each domain and update each manually even though most of the info is the same? Hopefully this isn¹t to broad a question for this list. I¹m very interested to find out if others in the CF community already have working solutions. Any help would be much appreciated. Butch Zaccheo Web Development Edirol Corporation ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214073 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Studio 8 announced
The lack of a descent one in all installer is currently holding back Eclipse. People don't have the time to go through the entire process, of downloading Eclipse, downloading the Web toolkit, downloading the prequisites of that toolkit, downloading CFEclipse, etc. If they managed to put this all into one package, so that you get easily started with an Eclipse installation where you can edit xml,xsl,javascript,(x)html,css,cfml,php without going to that proces. And maybe it is there already, and I just did not searched good enough ;) As far as DW 8 concerned. For me personally the real good feature is code collapse, but I hope they didn't took the CFStudio/Homesite codebase for this functionality, because everybody who used it in those old products, knows that when you collapsed a large amount of code, scrolling the document was a pain in the ass. So at least I hope that they did look at this feature. I like the enhanced compliance tests showed in the demo on the MM site, but for some reason I hope for more. Like that they - fixed the numerous issues involved with the treeview in DWMX - crashes when searching through folders with find replace (and they occured on specific xml files) - showing the directory path of a occurence within search results so that I might now which one of the 1001 index.cfm's in the results belongs to which project. - step into, just like Eclipse has on folders - enabling selection and printing of the reference inside DW - fixing the lookup of selections on search - split code view, like cfstudio had - breakdown of cfc's in a project If they at least payed attention to the treeview they have a buyer, but I hope they improve the support of the product. I don't understand why there haven't been released more updaters for DWMX 2004. I hope they pay more attention to existing customers :) Micha ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:214082 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion
Are you looking for a server control solution or a client side widget? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: simmyana a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 4 augustus 2005 10:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Dynamic Tree view in ColdFusion Hi, I need the code to display the items in a dynamic tree view pattern similar to windows explorer. can anyone help me with this? thanks ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213714 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Dave, I have no personal preferences for either Flex or DHTML. And I am lucky to be in a situation where I have hands on experience with both. Like I said before, I think the best solution is a combination of Flex and DHTML. Flex just isn't there on performance level yet. I think you really should think in ways of combining them both. After people here said, that it ran fine with them I wondered if they expanded the preferences section. Did that run well? I've checked with multiple systems if I was wrong, and they all showed up hogging the CPU to 100% while expanding. Does expanding preferences really go smooth? Regarding your negativity statements; I am open things and at least have the balls to talk about things not working correctly, people have opinions. On a list full of Macromedia zealots they might feel it is offensive to talk too honestly about their favorite product or company in such a way, but those who have criticism about products should be able to talk about it openly. If I am wrong about things I have no problem acknowledging that. If you think I am wrong, please discuss it with arguments. With the Flex comment I just expressed my concerns regarding performance, when doing more than reading RSS feeds. And I believe, watching at other reactions on Flex for RIA development from real software architects, that it is a real concern. Flickr btw switched to DHTML a long time ago, and besided runtime image modifications I didn't see the real use for Flash there either. Don't use Flash because it is Flash, use it because it might solve a problem for you. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 3 augustus 2005 3:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Come on micha tell us how dhtml would do it so much better ;) Also, last time i checked cfform was coldfusion and not flex, while yes it uses a SMALL flex engine it's exactly that a small flex engine and i certainly wouldn't say that example is an equal comparable item to a real flex one. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees What are you running? Barbies Malibu pc? Runs fine on my mac just fine. I maybe negitive towards m$ but damn do you look at the bright side of..., well anything at all? You remind me of my dad, mr. negitivity. For small widgets you mean like kodaks photoshare or flickr, yes very small indeed. ~Dave the disruptor~ A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation. Micha Schopman Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:4:41450:213379 Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213574 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213379 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Don't think so, checked it on other systems as well. Ranging from basic machines with 2Ghz to 3Ghz machines, and 3D render stations. All rendered slow. Like each change in position invokes a redraw method. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 14:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms While the expanding and collapsing of the preferences (can't see any other place to do it) is slow, it certainly doesn't bring my machine to it's knees, and I only have a 2ghz AMD. Window resizing has no problems at all. Scrolling the grid works smooth and fast. So I think you have a problem with your dual core machine. Satachi Internet Development Web Development and Consulting Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2005 13:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms Mike, They have delivered a wonderful piece of work, but I must say that this real world example shows again, why Flex is not mature yet for full blown applications in the browser. Expanding and collapsing brings my dual core system on its knees, not to mention resizing the window resulting in the exact same effect. Scrolling the grid with the handle on a 3Ghz CPU has the exact same effect. Either way, they did a great job and I applaud what they did, but it doesn't position Flex in my eyes as THE tool for building truly Rich Internet Applications, ... not yet. For small widgets, are as GUI enhancements it is ready though. Curious though what were the investments involved when talking about time, money, and resources. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 1 augustus 2005 5:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms fyi Nice MXNA app built with CFForms... http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/mxna-reader-built-with-cfforms mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213389 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: fyi : Nice MXNA app built with CFForms
Yes, and I was not clear enough in my description. I am talking about expanding and collapsing the preferences within the example. I have no problem minimizing and maximizing the browser window. My cpu's really do hard work when I expand/collapse preferences/languages/about/feedback sections. Flex really has potential, especially because as a developer you are able to work on a single canvas level with drag and drop operations, and events. That is definately a very very weak spot for Javascript equivalents and once XUL is widely supported this will remain. But I think we need more CPU power to get things like this performing better on Flex so that you really get an excellent user experience without the feeling it sometimes feels so .. heavy. And although it really looks nice, this interface is relatively simple with small amounts of data, simple presentation and as far as I can see, a small amount of dependencies inside the interface. I personally would feel more for a mixed approach, where people use Flex/Flash for the rich parts of the interface, and common markup/javascript for the overall part. ps. there is a minor bug when you drag n drop favorites within the pod to index 0. Using IE ? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:213411 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfschedule ghost threads
Paul, Thanks for the valuable info, I was about to check it out with BlueDragon. Seems a different platform should handle this job. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 9:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfschedule ghost threads I also got this problem with BlueDragon Paul Stewart Site Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.whichfranchise.com - Original Message - From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: cfschedule ghost threads I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from CFMX, but I just experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service factory but, it also turned out to be empty. Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is responsible for taking care of short pauses. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212802 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfschedule ghost threads
Dave, Not tried that, but that would also result in scheduled tags being available forever. Even though the date is set in history, the thread would be still registered within the system. We have settled with the ghost threads for the time being because we already made the decision for a different platform. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Dave Phipps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 12:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfschedule ghost threads Have you tried updating the schedule so that the start and end dates are in the past? I have a similar system for mass mailing that I am just putting together and I seem to have the same scheduler problem. I have tried using cfschedule to update the task but I am not sure that even this is making a difference. I will look at the cron-xml file when I get home tonight whilst my code is running to see if the change occurs. Cheers, Dave ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212808 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Macromedia Web site and cfschedule problems
Dave, Engineers here created the same solution in only 1 hour in ASP.NET, just to give you an idea of the time involved. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 13:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia Web site and cfschedule problems Dave, The setting the date in history could work for you, but I would have the same concerns Micha had. What you could do, though, is write a weekly routine that deleted tasks in the past, and schedule a CF service restart in the middle of the night. That would clear them out weekly and keep them from building up for a long time. Personally, I never tried setting them in the past for this issue, but I did change some scheduled tasks end date to past and that seemed to work, so your idea in theory sounds like it could work. Workarounds are always messy, but if Macromedia won't get on the ball and fix this 2+ year old problem, then that's all we can do other than dumping CF and moving to ASP (YECH!) or PHP (EVEN MORE YECH!). (these statements were not meant to offend, only to express my personal opinion. ;-) Dave ** The information contained in this message, including attachments, may contain privileged or confidential information that is intended to be delivered only to the person identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, ALLTEL requests that you immediately notify the sender and asks that you do not read the message or its attachments, and that you delete them without copying or sending them to anyone else. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212823 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Macromedia Web site and cfschedule problems
I don't know if the issues affect the Linux version also, but regarding ASP.NET you might take a look at Mono, it is an open source project trying to duplicate as much as possible from the .NET framework. We played with it in a staging environment, and it looked very good. www.mono-project.com Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Dave Phipps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 15:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia Web site and cfschedule problems Micha, Glad to hear you were able to solve the problem. As nice as asp might be, our servers are all linux running CFMX so apart from not knowing any asp my server admin won't install asp onto a linux box. I'll just have to think around the cfschedule problem. Restarting cfmx is not really an option. I wonder if the problem is the same on cfmx linux? If only I could persuade our clients to pay the extra and have cfmx enterprise then I could just use cfmail to do it in one go instead of sending 100 messages every 2 minutes. Anyone seen the cfscheduler problem on a linux box? Is anyone out there even using CFMX on linux apart from me? Cheers, Dave ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212828 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfschedule ghost threads
I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from CFMX, but I just experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service factory but, it also turned out to be empty. Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is responsible for taking care of short pauses. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212744 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfschedule ghost threads
As a follow up, I found a technote about this issue. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18361 Luckily it is only there since 2003 ... Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 25 juli 2005 15:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfschedule ghost threads I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from CFMX, but I just experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service factory but, it also turned out to be empty. Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is responsible for taking care of short pauses. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212747 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfschedule ghost threads
Dave, It is a bug ... I am really astonished that such a mayor bug from 2003 still isn't fixed. Practically, the cfschedule tag is useless. Bug: 48529 http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_18325 The jobs all have different names, they run with a interval of 60 seconds, and are doing nothing more than cfmail start-endrow, until all rows are handled. Then the job is removed, well .. it should have been removed. Still astonished ... Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 25 juli 2005 16:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfschedule ghost threads Micha, I experienced the same thing and only a CF service restart cleared them. It's gotta be a bug, but I haven't ever researched it to see if there is a fix for it. Are the jobs you're adding/deleting using the same task name? Have you experienced trying to use either the same task name everytime, or a different one everytime? I never tested that, just created my own scheduling system (it was also for mailings). I have a table where the mailing is added to the table, and I'm only using the CF scheduler to run the same program every 5 minutes and look for any jobs that need to be sent. This way I just have a static job in the CF scheduler and don't have to worry about the bug. Alot of work to get around a bug but you gotta do what you gotta do (I'm sure someone important said that one day) Dave -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfschedule ghost threads I hoped this would be a long solved dusty relic from CFMX, but I just experienced that CFMX 6.1 fully patched also has issues with never ending scheduler jobs. They do not appear in the list of jobs, but they do however execute. I also checked any running jobs with the service factory but, it also turned out to be empty. Anyone else experienced this, and besides forcing a service restart of CFMX did someone find a solution? The tasks are created with the cfscheduler tag, and the same counts for the deletion of them when their job is finished. The jobs are doing mass mailings, whereas cfschedule is responsible for taking care of short pauses. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212752 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: This is crazy this is crazy this is crazy!
Will, You might check the amount of cookies you are setting. Per domain you are allowed to set a maximum of 20 cookies in browsers, whereas each has a maximum of 4 KB. If you go over these 20 cookies, the FIFO system (First in First Out) is doing the job to remove the oldest cookies automatically. So it might well be, that your session cookie gets removed from the browser because it has reached its maximum amount of cookies. If you really need to set a bigger amount of cookies you must create a wrapper for it. I have created one if you really need it. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 26 juni 2005 21:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: This is crazy this is crazy this is crazy! Ok, I've officially lost it! My cart has been workin' just FINE up until I tested it some with IE. Somehow, the damn session scoped cfc dies out. The cart is just GONE for no reason. It's there on one of the pages, then you click to view bag, and you get the ol' Element MYSHOPPINGCART is undefined in SESSION error. No problem in Firefox. Hell, I can't MAKE it error with FF. Could someone please give it a whirl with IE and let me know if it poops out on you as well. www.wtomlinson.com/foxybody This doesn't make sense. Thanks, Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210574 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: This is crazy this is crazy this is crazy!
In that case, you need to combine multiple formfields into one cookie. A
cookie can handle a large amount of data, 4 KB is enough for pretty
large text fields. It is the maximum of 20 that is a pain in the ass.
Try this to set your cookies.
USAGE for Storage:
var tmp = new superCookie('cookiename');
tmp.add('subcookiename','value');
And for retrieval:
var tmp = new superCookie('cookiename');
tmp.load();
var value = tmp.get('subcookiename');
var cookie = document.cookie;
function getcookie(name) { // use: getCookie(name);
var index = cookie.indexOf(name + =);
if(index == -1){
return '';
}
index = cookie.indexOf(=, index) + 1;
var endstr = cookie.indexOf(;, index);
if (endstr == -1){
endstr = cookie.length;
}
return unescape(cookie.substring(index, endstr));
}
function setcookie(name,value) {
if(document.cookie != document.cookie){
index = document.cookie.indexOf(name);
}else{
index = -1;
}
if(index == -1){
document.cookie = name + '=' + escape(value) + ';
expires=Monday, 04-Apr-2010 05:00:00 GMT';
}
}
function superCookie(name){
this.name = name;
this.raw = [];
this.serialized;
this.deserialized = [];
}
superCookie.prototype = {
serialize:function(){
var i = this.raw.length;
var tmp = [];
while(i--){
tmp.push('{name:\''+this.raw[i].label+'\',value:\''+this.raw[i].data+'\'
}');
}
this.serialized = tmp.join();
return this.serialized;
},
deserialize:function(){
if(!this.serialized){
return;
}
var self = this;
this.serialized.replace(/\{[^}]+\}/g,
function(match){self.deserialized.push(match)})
return this.deserialized;
},
add:function(name,value){
if(value.length = 0){
value = 'null';
}
this.raw.push({label:name,data:escape(value)})
},
get:function(name){
var set = this.deserialize();
if(typeof set == 'undefined'){
return '';
}
var i = set.length;
while(i--){
eval('var tmp = ' + set[i] + ';');
if(tmp.name == name){
var value = unescape(tmp.value);
if(value != null value != 'null'){
return value;
}else{
return '';
}
break;
}
}
return '';
},
toRaw:function(){
var set = this.deserialize();
if(typeof set == 'undefined'){
return;
}
var i = set.length;
this.raw = [];
while(i--){
eval('var tmp = ' + set[i] + ';');
this.raw.push({label:tmp.name,data:escape(tmp.value)})
}
},
load:function(){
this.serialized = getcookie(this.name);
this.toRaw();
},
save:function(){
setcookie(this.name,this.serialize());
}
}
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-Original Message-
From: Aaron DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: maandag 27 juni 2005 10:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: This is crazy this is crazy this is crazy!
This would be an interesting point to pursue - when submitting the form
you
set a cookie for EVERY form field - may be better off saving it in a
session
variable??
Live headers / Page info via Netscape / Mozilla etc are very useful when
looking at things like this.
Aaron
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To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: RE
RE: Filemaker Pro and Cold Fusion
Les, That is the web companion. File Maker Pro has its own language, CDML - Claris Database Markup Language which is pretty much like CFML. It is tag based, and enables you to build web apps using the web companion. More or less the web companion is the web part of a FileMaker Pro application, and in the backend which is a client application you can design forms for data entry and browse the data. It does have login features though, we used it a long time ago so each citizen could lookup the status of his garbage quota with the local city. This was done after login. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 23 juni 2005 9:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Filemaker Pro and Cold Fusion It's been a few years since I did this, so my info may be outdated by now (I'd hope that would be the case) but ... There is an ODBC driver for FM, and I have used it with CF, but would not suggest doing so. It has some ridiculous requirements that make it just about useless in the real world, FM has to be open as an app (not a service, so you can't logout), tables to be accessed must actually be open (the driver kinda stuffs keystrokes in for you, as you execute sql statements you actually see the FM screens changing), and so on. Again, this may have changed. But if not, your only real option would be to import the data into a real DBMS. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Filemaker Pro and Cold Fusion Date: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:05 am Size: 1K To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com I've got a potential client that has a huge honking Filemaker Pro database that they wish to have a web application built on top of. I've not yet been able to look at the underlying structure yet, so I don't have all the details. They basically want a rather complicated search interface. I know *CRAP* about Filemaker. So... 1. Is this even possible? 2. Better to export to SQL Server or mySQL? Can you even export into another format? 3. Suggestions/Pointers? URL with required reading? Obviously I'm just starting research for this. Thanks, -- --- Les Mizzell ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210323 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic JS tree with AJAX
I have created one, and you're free to use it. http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6.2/ I haven't got the time to write extensive documentation, but an older version has some example calls shown. If you miss any calls they can be added easily because it is OO JS. http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6/treeview.html Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 19 juni 2005 16:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic JS tree with AJAX OK, I've been investigating this for a while and the major stumbling block is finding a JS tree control that allows branches to be inserted at runtime; everything I've found so far requires the whole tree to be defined in some way before the actual tree content is generated. Does anyone know of a JS tree that has an API for inserting branches at runtime (e.g. from a remoting request via AJAX)? -- Geeque - accept the geek within and get your friends off your back - http://www.cafepress.com/geeque/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209961 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic JS tree with AJAX
James, Looking for it, it was already on the todo list so (webparts in nodes). Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 20 juni 2005 8:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic JS tree with AJAX Ah, it almost does what I am after. It doesn't handle multi-line labels for the nodes (e.g. with a br / in the middle), something that is probably necessary for the work I'm doing. On 6/20/05, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have created one, and you're free to use it. http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6.2/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:209965 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Quick OT Javascript question. PART 2
This is prohibited by specs, a select element is not allowed to contain
a input element.
You might better use either a 2d array - var tmp [[0,1],[0,1]] or a
struct - var tmp {name:'value',name:'value'}
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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 14 juni 2005 14:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Quick OT Javascript question. PART 2
Another question:
In my previous question.. I needed to grab the currently selected option
from a select list.
I can now get the selected value using this code...
var SelOpt = document.myform.colors.options.selectedIndex;
var colortype = document.myform.colors[SelOpt].value;
I now need to get the value of a hidden input that is dynamically named
from
the select list value...
Visusally it looks like this...
select name=colors
cfloop query=color_names
option value=#name##name#/option
input type=hidden name=#name# value=#rating#
/cfloop
I am looking to get the RATING value.
I can get the selected NAME using the code above, but my attempts to
extract
the hidden variable have been unsuccessful.
I've tried:
var amt = 'document.myform.' + colortype + '.value';
and
var amt = document.myform.colortype.value';
I'm stumped.. Any suggestions???
Thanks,
Jeff
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RE: xmlHTTP
David,
Are you sending the XML with the text/xml content type? Content types
are key to valid XML detection.
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From: David Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: zondag 5 juni 2005 6:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: xmlHTTP
I am very lost here. Any help would be great. I am using xmlhttp on
another project without any errors. But for the life me I can't figure
this out. Alert(httpObj.responseText); will display the xml and the xml
will display in IE so I dont' think it's bad xml document. But
alert(httpObj.responseXML); display nothing (not null), but nothing just
blank message box. When I try to access a tag by name I get an
error,because there is nothing in the xml obj.
Here is the xml I am seing in httpObj.responseText:
?xml version=1.0
?NumberOfJobAppserror0/errorrecordcount2recordcount/NumberOf
JobApps
Here is the code I am using:
script language=JavaScript type=text/javascript
var httpObj = null;
try {
httpObj = new ActiveXObject(Microsoft.XMLHTTP);
}catch(error) {
try {
httpObj = new ActiveXObject(Msxml2.XMLHTTP);
}catch(error) {
httpObj = null;
}
}
if(!httpObj typeof XMLHttpRequest != undefined) {
httpObj = new XMLHttpRequest();
}
/script
script language=JavaScript type=text/javascript
function GetJobData(ssn1,ssn2,ssn3){
if(httpObj.readyState != 0) {
httpObj.abort();
}
if (JobForm.SSN1.value != JobForm.SSN2.value !=
JobForm.SSN3.value != ) {
if(httpObj) {
httpObj.abort();
httpObj.open(GET, qryJobData.cfm?ssn= +
ssn1+-+ssn2+-+ssn3, true);
httpObj.onreadystatechange = function() {
if (httpObj.readyState == 4){
var xmlObj = httpObj.responseXML;
alert(xmlObj.xml);
var rcObj = xmlObj.getElementsByTagName(recordcount);
// if (httpObj.responseText
httpObj.responseXML.getElementsByTagName('recordcount').item(0).firstChi
ld.data ==0){
//JobForm.PrevEmployee.focus();
//return false; }
// if(httpObj.responseText
httpObj.responseXML.getElementsByTagName('recordcount').item(0).firstChi
ld.data 1) {
//alert(It has been less then 30 days since your last
application.\n Please wait until it has been more then 30 days);
//return false;}
}
}
httpObj.send(null);
}
}
}
/script
David
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RE: flash platform
I expected it, but honestly don't see a clear role for Flash in this part of the market. Why would one choose Flash if other (and mature) options provide better tooling, performance, architecture and end result. It would be if it brought something really new, but why would one choose Flash for leveraging client applications. Why would one choose a Flash Application over a Java / .NET application for the desktop? And why would one choose a Flash application over a Java application on a mobile phone. Strange moves imho. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 6 juni 2005 6:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: ot: flash platform whoa, wasn't expecting this! http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=549C1 ~Dave the disruptor~ This bottle of lemonaid says contains no lemon juice and the can of Pledge says contains real lemon juice figures @%*((% ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208667 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs LAMP
And even then, the quick development are marketing arguments imo. In practice development time between PHP and CFML is pretty much equal. I would say developing in PHP is quicker due to its shorthand notation. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 3 juni 2005 14:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF vs LAMP On 6/2/05, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most sites, if the PHP site takes twice or three times as long as the same site being done in CF, then whatever you have in the free software, you've more than spent on programmers wages. So which site is cheaper again? larry The programmers wages argument begins to collapse *very* quickly as you scale up/out. With *any* licensed software, your licensing costs are at least linearly related to your need to scale; for free open source software, the scaling price is zero. This isn't an issue for a small site, but for a large site the licensing costs can easily outstrip the development costs. For a moderate volume site with 2 dualproc web servers plus a dualproc db server, CF/MS-SQL costs $15k(3 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2procs of [EMAIL PROTECTED]), LAMP costs $0. In many cases, the project may be delivered in LAMP for less than the license cost of CF/MS-SQL. And for very small sites, let's say a budget of $10k, the licensing costs can eat up so much of the budget that there's no money left for building the site itself. The original question was about CF/MS-SQL vs LAMP. Software costs of CF/MS-SQL at a minimum are around $7k (Win2003 $800 + CF $1200 + MS-SQL $5,000) while LAMP costs $0. In many cases, LAMP could conceivably deliver the project for the cost of the licenses for CF/MS-SQL. To be fair though, the driver in both of these cases is really MS-SQL (and the companion Windows license). I think it's much easier to justify CF (for the time savings) *especially* if you need on of it's core differentiating features (e.g reporting, flashpaper, event gateways, java integration, flash integration). Just as PHP might be a time savings if you're delivering an application that can leverage existing PHP functionality, especially one of the portals or CMS platforms to solve your problem. I think the main advantage of CF over PHP/Perl/Python is the ability to leverage Java and to scale up into and integrate with J2EE containers and applications, but that's just me :) Amen Larry!!I don't know why this concept is so hard for some people to get. I think the main reason the concept is so hard to get is that there's no real proof demonstrating CF is faster to develop in than PHP (or .NET or Perl or Java, etc). There are plenty of anecdotal stories -- but for every positive anecdote you can show, there's a negative one someone else can throw out. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208524 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs LAMP
Why developing in PHP, if C# is superior. Why developing in C# if C++ is superior. In the end it comes down to because we just happen to work with it each day. ;) People don't like change. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208525 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs LAMP
Nofi, but this thread is going off topic because some people are too blind seeing there is more on the market than CF :) If you don't like PHP, that's all right, everybody has its own personal affection with a language, but stating in someway that the developers using PHP are amateurs is just not true. In general, I found the average quality of products developed with PHP much higher than those made with CF. The learning curve of CF due to its tag based syntax is much lower, and so people with less programming experience or less know-how about how to approach certain constructions are starting quickly writing their code in CF. That is the power behind CF, but it has its side effects regarding quality. The PHP learning curve is much higher nor is it very attractive to the beginning developer. Most people starting with PHP have at least some theoretical and experience about programming. Ofcourse there are many good CF developers, but there are also a lot of unexperienced developers, just because they can get started quickly with programming. How many developers really use cfqueryparam for instance? I think there are a lot just output the values without review. This is true code running in production I had to review once (because there was an error somewhere) http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/horror.txt Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208336 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs LAMP
Calvin, I was aiming at the following comments made in the thread; They proved to be the typical LAMP dev'r and were highly missinformed on a lot of issues and I used the fact that they don't know against them very strongly. Then I had them go up to white board and write on whiteboard a typical php page, making a db call and returning a recordset. And then I did the same but in cfm, needless to say i was done in less than half the time with smaller readable code. And Seems more trustable then querying a bunch of half-ass cheap ameturs who THINK they know everything but they don't, I surely wouldn't want to base my lively hood on them! If it was meant in a (positive) different way, please tell. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208340 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs LAMP
I don't think finding someone would ever be an issue, there's a good number of CF developers not employed or looking for additional work all over the country/world. This is definitely not the case. Maybe in the US, but certainly not everywhere. As far as lamp concerned, PHP is a very mature platform, as well as Apache. There is a lot of ignorance regarding PHP. PHP scales very well, it runs cross platform, and direct access to resources for development on the job market are very high. OO development is supported for a long time, the community is immense, it has tailor made development software, it has tailor made compression techniques, tailor made template engines, and very large applications are not an issue. Don't let yourself be blinded by your CF love, PHP is very much alive as a high end development platform. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208170 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs LAMP
Calvin, As always, it not always depends on the requirements for a project, but also on the strategy of business regarding sales, communication, partnerships, certifications, etc. Like others, we are not advocating, we are merely observing. We like CF, we like PHP, we like Python, we like ASP.NET, we like everything which we can build cool applications with. My cats have not been called cfdump and cferror, and my personal library is full of books about a wide variety of languages, software design. I need to, there aren't that many CF books to fill room with. If the discussion involved ASP 3.0 I would have said you are totally right. ;) Do not take offence when people say good things about bad languages, the goodness of them might depend on opinions. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 1 juni 2005 12:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP What I am observing is an increasing number of participants on this list (CF list) advocating PHP instead of CF, without even the benefit of knowing the total requirements of a given project. Which potentially results in the self fulfilling process that was the point of my previous communication. Is PHP a better, more cost effective solution? If so, we are wasting our time here and need to move on. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP I don't think finding someone would ever be an issue, there's a good number of CF developers not employed or looking for additional work all over the country/world. This is definitely not the case. Maybe in the US, but certainly not everywhere. As far as lamp concerned, PHP is a very mature platform, as well as Apache. There is a lot of ignorance regarding PHP. PHP scales very well, it runs cross platform, and direct access to resources for development on the job market are very high. OO development is supported for a long time, the community is immense, it has tailor made development software, it has tailor made compression techniques, tailor made template engines, and very large applications are not an issue. Don't let yourself be blinded by your CF love, PHP is very much alive as a high end development platform. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208173 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF vs LAMP
Is PHP in general a better solution than CF? It depends on how the end user experiences it. On some points I think CF excels and the same goes for PHP. Looking at things like cfgraph, report builder, event gateway, those are all things you do not find in PHP. There are possible yes, but requires you to buy separate components. That is why CF still has its community, the full featureset. If you look at coding style (c++ / ecma script alike), amount of functions, and performance I do like PHP very much. Combined with ZEND, PHP is very powerful and executing algorithms like Levensthein on PHP takes place in milliseconds, whereas CF takes seconds and seconds on the same box. It is just where you are used to. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208181 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: (SOT) Joins aren't always better than subqueries (longish post)
This also depends in the order you join. If your first join returns a large dataset, and the second a smaller dataset it might be interesting to look at rearranging specific statements so you limit the data you work with as fast as possible. Is this something that is happening in you case? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 31 mei 2005 10:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: (SOT) Joins aren't always better than subqueries (longish post) It is common for best practices docs to advise that we should use a join in preference to a subquery wherever possible, since the subquery prevents the DB from creating the execution plan it could with a join. This is probably quite true most of the time. However I just discovered a situation (in Oracle at least) where joins hobbled my query so badly that a query that should have taken milliseconds took minutes; using an aggregate function in a query that needed to return joined info. I'll simplify my situation: say I have the following table for scores in a unit of study: tblscore - scoreid, score, personid, unitid and it is joined to a tblperson table and a tblunit table in the obvious way. Now I want to sum the scores across all people in the given unit, so I do this: SELECT SUM(score) AS totalscore FROM tblscore GROUP BY unitid No problems so far. Great, but I now need to return the unit name in the above query, so using a join I do this: SELECT SUM(tblscore.score) AS totalscore, tblunit.unitname FROM tblscore, tblunit WHERE tblscore.unitid = tblunit.unitid GROUP BY tblunit.unitname (yeah yeah, I know, use ANSI join syntax - I'm an Oracle user, so sue me). This is necessary because you must either group or aggregate on anything returned by the query. The end result performs like a dog in a situation where there are in fact three more joins to other tables. I presume this is because to figure out the grouping for the sum the join result has to be returned and it messes up the aggregate's performance. Oracle's subqueries to the rescue: SELECT SUM(score) AS totalscore, (SELECT unitname FROM tblunit WHERE tblunit.unitid = s.unitid) AS unitname FROM tblscore s GROUP BY unitid This performs many times better than the group on the join, when there are actually four joins to perform. Anyone more intimate with the inner dark secrets of SQL is welcome to comment. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208016 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: (OT) Object tag - text/html in IE Cross Domain
Jim,
This is done for security reasons. Imagine someone creating his own
scripting to access Javascript methods which return sensitive
information (bankaccount).
There are some things one can do, like P3P tags, but essentially it
comes down to someone modifying the cross domain scripting settings in
the browser.
For IE, this is down by a checkbox, and for FireFox you need to
uncomment some lines and invoke the PrivilegeManager to enable
UniversalBrowserRead.
if (typeof netscape != 'undefined' typeof netscape.security !=
'undefined'){
netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege('UniversalBrowserRead
');
}
Sometimes it can be a pain in the ass, but I am glad the security is
there.
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 24 mei 2005 3:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (OT) Object tag - text/html in IE Cross Domain
-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (OT) Object tag - text/html in IE Cross Domain
ROFL.
It's similar to an iframe in the way it works (and that's how I ended
up
doing it) but there is one small difference - an iframe's navigation
is
self-contained (i.e. links open inside the iframe) whereas the object
tag's links (by default) target the browser containing the tag like
any
other. This difference may be more of a security hassle, I guess.
Luckily in this instance the code I included had no links so the end
result was anlomst identical using the iframe.
The only reason I'm being such a prick about this is that I've been
through
it.
Our company was bought out and we wanted to combine our websites -
content
from both servers in the same frame. But we had all sorts of cross-site
scripting issues.
I spent some time and figured out an inelegant, but perfectly usable
system
for passing information across sites using the status bar. This was
because
it turned out that browsers from different domains could still both read
and
write to the status bar (at the time it worked in everything but IE 5.5
-
although oddly it did work in IE 6).
The code essentially created asynchronous messaging queues between two
sites
- it was actually pretty slick. (I've still got it if anybody wants to
take
a look.) It allowed scripts from different domains to share text data.
(As an aside I still think that's something that should be allowed via
some
specialized code. There should be some standardized location -
something
like a public object which is accessible to all scripts in the
instance -
that way different sites that choose to share data would have the
ability
too, but the default behavior would be safe.)
I made the mistake of posting a question about how to fix the IE 5.5
issue
to a public forum which started a whole tirade about cross-site browser
security. Several people sent messages to the various vendors - now my
code
doesn't work in any of the new browsers.
Because of that I'm just overly wary of taking advantage of anything
that
even has shades of that. I just don't want to get used to something
only to
have the capability disabled just when I've gotten used to relying on
it.
;^)
Jim Davis
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RE: CF Enterprise Edition vs. CF Standard Edition
It might be useful to determine your business needs as opposite to what features developers want to play with. If you have no use for the additional features in your project(s) it might be a decision based on emotions instead of rational arguments and the extra investment might never pay itself back. Is this still on topic? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:207248 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Availability of try..catch [was Re: Dynamic Javascript Question]
NS 4 didn't offer try / catch, that is correct. Nowadays you will experience that the support in Mozilla browsers is far beyond what IE delivers. Mozilla even supports get/set and in a future release also classes and access modifiers as defined in the new standards as opposed to current prototyping. IE still has superior performance in most cases, with a large advantage in dynamic rendering speeds. There are some regions where Opera is king of the hill, and sometimes FireFox. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206495 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic Javascript Question
Try/catch is part of the ECMA-Script 262 standard, which the Mozilla
engine fully supports. They even need to, since the presentation layer
of for ex. FireFox is made of 50% Javascript code.
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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 15:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Dynamic Javascript Question
last I knew javascript try-catch wasn't cross-browser... I think IE
allows it but Mozilla browsers tell you that you can't use the keyword
try when you attempt it. Or at least that was my experience
previously.
Be careful with the private variables outside of your
function scope.
You might think you made them private, but in fact they
are public
because you have defined them outside the function. You
have defined
them as global variables now.
I have enclosed the parts with try catch parts, which
might help you
finding out where it goes wrong.
script type=text/javascript
function clientRecPop(i) {
if(parseInt(i) = 0){
alert('i contained is not a valid number');
return;
}
try{
var clid =
document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
var compName =
document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
}catch(e){
alert('something went wrong in the first part, fields
not existing etc.');
}
if(window.opener){
try{
window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['clientID'
].value =
clid;
window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['coName'].
value =
compName;
}catch(e){
alert('something went wrong in the second part, fields
not existing in opener window etc.');
}
}
//window.close()
}
/script
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RE: Client side include
Kerry, Could you also explain why? For Kevin, overlapping parts of the menu means you either must look at how to handle such things using scrollbars using CSS or markup, or adjust the menu to fit in the user interface. For the performance hit of the cfinclude, try looking at caching the output. Often there is no reason (besides personalized links, or information) to render navigation on each request. Render it once, reuse it many times afterwards. Caching in the application scope, of the output of the menu, offers you the ability to display that cached output to all visitors. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Kerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 mei 2005 8:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client side include Not the answer you want but, I would avoid DHTML menus, and recursive menus that render the whole menu in one go. -Original Message- From: Kevin Roche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2005 08:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Client side include Hi, A new site I am building has a really big left hand menu. we are using some DHTML code that builds a css based hierarchical menu. It looks good but takes 'ages' to download on every page. I was just thinking that it must be possible to download it once and include it on the client side rather than at the server end to save on the download. Anyone know how to do that? I already tried: object type=text/html data=include/menu.cfm a href=include/menu.cfm Menu /a /object .but the effect of doing it that way is that when the menu jumps out the box gets bigger and disrupts the page, instead of the menu overlapping the page elements. Does anyone know if this kind of thing can be done with writeContent() ? I can't see how myself but have a hunch that there might be some way to do that. Target browsers are IE and FireFox. Kevin Roche Technical Director Objective Internet Ltd 01256 338 490 This message (including any attachments) contains information that may be confidential and/or privileged. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. - If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this message with Received in error as the subject and then delete it from your mailbox. - If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it, and any unauthorized use may be illegal. The sender is not responsible for the accuracy or completeness of this message when it has been transmitted over a public network, as Internet communication is not secure. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206500 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Client side include
The moment you start noticing a decrease in load time due to a DHTML menu, it can mean different things 1: The menu is wacky, and is programmed in such a bad way that a lot of information is parsed in such a dramatic way it takes a lot of time to process it. In other words, bad component. 2: The data you are feeding it, exceeds normal amounts. For a navigation menu, this does not sound very reasonable. ..js files are cached by the client. So if you output your menu configuration into a .js file that one is cached. But again, you need an enormous amount of data to notice any difference. How much data are you outputting? With the two sources part, what are you trying to do? Frames can be accessed through the DOM. So yes, you can read, output, process, etc. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Kevin Roche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 mei 2005 9:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client side include Micha, Kerry, Thanks for your replys. I have no prblem with caching on the server. I would also like to cache the menu on the client. The performace hit that really worries me is that of downloading the menu with every page. Kerry said: I would avoid DHTML menus, and recursive menus that render the whole menu in one go. Unfortunarely that answer is not the solution as the client has this as a must have item! Apart from the download time CSS menu is working well so I don't need a solution for that, just for caching it in the browser. Beacuse of the page layout putting the menu and page in separate frames is not the solution. I was wondering if anyone here had ever tried using a single frame with javascript to write the output from two sources. That way I could possibly cache the menu on the browser and merge it with the rest of the page. Kevin -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2005 09:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client side include Kerry, Could you also explain why? For Kevin, overlapping parts of the menu means you either must look at how to handle such things using scrollbars using CSS or markup, or adjust the menu to fit in the user interface. For the performance hit of the cfinclude, try looking at caching the output. Often there is no reason (besides personalized links, or information) to render navigation on each request. Render it once, reuse it many times afterwards. Caching in the application scope, of the output of the menu, offers you the ability to display that cached output to all visitors. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Kerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 mei 2005 8:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client side include Not the answer you want but, I would avoid DHTML menus, and recursive menus that render the whole menu in one go. -Original Message- From: Kevin Roche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2005 08:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Client side include Hi, A new site I am building has a really big left hand menu. we are using some DHTML code that builds a css based hierarchical menu. It looks good but takes 'ages' to download on every page. I was just thinking that it must be possible to download it once and include it on the client side rather than at the server end to save on the download. Anyone know how to do that? I already tried: object type=text/html data=include/menu.cfm a href=include/menu.cfm Menu /a /object .but the effect of doing it that way is that when the menu jumps out the box gets bigger and disrupts the page, instead of the menu overlapping the page elements. Does anyone know if this kind of thing can
RE: Availability of try..catch [was Re: Dynamic Javascript Question]
That is correct, IE 5.5 introduced 1.4 which contains the try catch handlers. Javascript 1.5 improved this by adding the finally clause. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 mei 2005 12:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Availability of try..catch [was Re: Dynamic Javascript Question] Try/catch was added to javascript in 1.5. Firefox has always supporteded, as my understanding goes, and IE6 supports it. IE5.5 and early do not. Opera should but never tested it. Adam H On 5/12/05, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NS 4 didn't offer try / catch, that is correct. Nowadays you will experience that the support in Mozilla browsers is far beyond what IE delivers. Mozilla even supports get/set and in a future release also classes and access modifiers as defined in the new standards as opposed to current prototyping. IE still has superior performance in most cases, with a large advantage in dynamic rendering speeds. There are some regions where Opera is king of the hill, and sometimes FireFox. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206520 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Availability of try..catch [was Re: Dynamic Javascript Question]
By specifications yes, in practice no. :) Throw was available, but unfortunately that was not the case with finally :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 mei 2005 15:15 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Availability of try..catch [was Re: Dynamic Javascript Question] I just cracked open my book (javascript The definitivwe Guide, O'Rielly) and it says everythying was implemented in javascript 1.4 (try/catch/finally/throw)The error class was added in js 1.5 (pg 96-98). Adam H On 5/12/05, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is correct, IE 5.5 introduced 1.4 which contains the try catch handlers. Javascript 1.5 improved this by adding the finally clause. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 mei 2005 12:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Availability of try..catch [was Re: Dynamic Javascript Question] Try/catch was added to javascript in 1.5. Firefox has always supporteded, as my understanding goes, and IE6 supports it. IE5.5 and early do not. Opera should but never tested it. Adam H On 5/12/05, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NS 4 didn't offer try / catch, that is correct. Nowadays you will experience that the support in Mozilla browsers is far beyond what IE delivers. Mozilla even supports get/set and in a future release also classes and access modifiers as defined in the new standards as opposed to current prototyping. IE still has superior performance in most cases, with a large advantage in dynamic rendering speeds. There are some regions where Opera is king of the hill, and sometimes FireFox. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206532 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dynamic Javascript Question
Be careful with the private variables outside of your function scope.
You might think you made them private, but in fact they are public
because you have defined them outside the function. You have defined
them as global variables now.
I have enclosed the parts with try catch parts, which might help you
finding out where it goes wrong.
script type=text/javascript
function clientRecPop(i) {
if(parseInt(i) = 0){
alert('i contained is not a valid number');
return;
}
try{
var clid =
document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
var compName =
document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
}catch(e){
alert('something went wrong in the first part, fields
not existing etc.');
}
if(window.opener){
try{
window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['clientID'].value =
clid;
window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['coName'].value =
compName;
}catch(e){
alert('something went wrong in the second part, fields
not existing in opener window etc.');
}
}
//window.close()
}
/script
Micha Schopman
Project Manager
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
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-Original Message-
From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 10 mei 2005 20:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Dynamic Javascript Question
I'm still getting the same errors
Here's the code (html generated from CF)
The size of the form is dictated by a cfoutput query.
script
var i = null;
var compName = null;
var clid = null;
function clientRecPop(i) {
clid = document.forms.clientSearch.client_id[i];
compName = document.forms.clientSearch.company[i];
self.opener.document.forms.NewJob.clientID.value = clid;
self.opener.document.forms.newJob.coName.value =
compName;
//window.close()
}
/script
/head
body id=clientSearch
table width=100% border=0 cellpadding=0
tr bgcolor=#CC
tdspan class=style5*/span/td
tdspan class=style5Client #/span/td
tdspan class=style5Client Company Name/span/td
tdspan class=style5Contact Name/span/td
tdspan class=style5Phone#/span/td
tdnbsp;/td
/tr
form action= method=post name=clientSearch id=clientSearch
tr
tdinput name=Status1 type=text value=A size=2
/td
tdinput name=client_id1 type=text value=158903
size=10/td
tdinput name=company1 type=text value=Wal-Mart Stores, Inc
/td
tdinput name=contact1 type=text value=Mohsen Ghadimkhani
/td
tdinput name=phone1 type=text value=5012734940
size=10/td
tdinput name=recID1 type=button onClick=clientRecPop(1)
value=Select/td
/tr
tr
tdinput name=Status2 type=text value=A size=2
/td
tdinput name=client_id2 type=text value=158904
size=10/td
tdinput name=company2 type=text value=Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
/td
tdinput name=contact2 type=text value=Wayne Cox
/td
tdinput name=phone2 type=text value=5012734734
size=10/td
tdinput name=recID2 type=button onClick=clientRecPop(2)
value=Select/td
/tr
Scott A. Stewart,
Web Application Developer
Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS)
14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300
Chantilly, VA 20151
Phone: (703) 995-1737
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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it with some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats). Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities hidden there. For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester for CFMX in it... -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta Q. Why on earth do you need these books now? The CF Docs are more than enoughif not better. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than the Sahara I tell you. I hate you, Ben. Rey... PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben; well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206343 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: odd data model
That sounds too me like a basic normalized datamodel. http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/diagram.gif uses a similair approach. It is just way to keep things in hand when handling data with alot of dependencies and modelling for future enhancements. From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 5/9/2005 6:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: odd data model Hey All, I always join my tables directly like so: TableA.PK_Field joins to FK TableB.PK_Field_fromTableA Like with products and categories..the product records have an FK back to categories table via cat_id Now I've been handed with a data model that joins all tables associated with lets say products via a central table that contains the PKs from all child tables. So the central table would have prod_id, cat_id, color_id, etc Some relationships between the child tables are one to many..some are many to many...all are held in this central table instead of actual relationships between tables Has anyone ever seen data setup this way? I never have TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:206105 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Need cfcomet article
Adam, The archive, saved the latest version on the 22-05-2004. That one seems to work. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cfcomet.com Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 6 mei 2005 13:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: Need cfcomet article Cf comet seems to be gone,for now, and I need an arcticle off there that is supposed to help me solve my COM error 0x5. Access is denied. problem. Anyone got info on how to fix this issue? Adam H ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205839 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Nofi, but could we end this useless discussion? Some people keep whining / overreacting about the smallest things on and on. People sometimes say things that are wrong, it happens, move on, smile and continue the discussion. And for those who think mwuahaha, obvious reply coming ... yes me too ;) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 6 mei 2005 15:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? It's not big deal. I didn't mind his comments at all. I was definitely asking for it with my smart-ass 'this in not your blog' post. So yeah, no harm, no foul. -Adam On 5/5/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/5/05, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it was not a baseless ad- hoymnum attack. Sure it was. It was crude, insulting and completely inappropriate to this list (or indeed any list that is supposed to be a professional technical list). Your continued rants and unpleasantness merely show most of us that you belong on a DNH list... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205853 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
I disagree, in the least because the job opportunities for C, C++, C# and Java are much and much larger than those for CF developers. Second, with C# or Java you learn to work with true OOP in a much more advanced environment then CF will ever be. If you for example look at protection levels for every action you take, it will force you to think about the architecture of your application in a way CF will probably never reach. Even then, I don't know how this is in the US, but here university level schools don't really focus on the programming languages, but they focus more on managing a software creation process, writing technical and functional documentation, diagrams, architectures, release management, and then there comes programming. It is nice if students can get a copy of CF cheaper with a school license, but to let schools teach CF, rather not. Every Java developer can program CF, not every CF programmer can do Java. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205483 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Easy dave, take a nip of your water ... breathe in ... breathe out ;) Nobody is attacking anyone. If you would suggest that CF should be part of teaching in schools, on which education would you like to see it? Cooking? DTP? neither of them have anything to do with programming except setting up the microwave by pressing some buttons. If I ask you, where did you learn CF, should I like you did throw with bathroom, or local pub? I'd probably say, in practice on the job. I think a lot of CF developers nowadays just happened to worked with the language. Like I said, we have specific educations here, so proof me wrong. We don't have university classes for PHP, Java, CF, C#, .. what we do have are educations for Computer Sciences where they teach students how to manage, setup and complete a software project without even looking at languages. These are like I previously mentioned the education where there is a big focus on theory. Please try to read carefully what I am trying to say. The foundations for CF programming are too weak in terms of architecturing, which is one of the most importants aspects of software development. I think that is why CF doesn't have a chance in educations. For CF there are specific trainings, and training centers, hence the Macromedia Certified Trainer status. If people as a graphics designer find it hard to learn CF, too bad. I want to fly jets too, but I can't. That is why people make choices in their lives. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205485 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Thank you, but do other people think CF would fit in the unit as a true education? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205487 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Windows NT error number 1450
This error usually occurs either, when the windows registry has reached its maximum capacity storing client variables, or when the server memory is insufficient to buffer a file upload. Are you uploading large files? If so, increasing memory might help. Micha Schopman Project Managr Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205501 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205425 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
A totally different comparison. Comparing a Microsoft-Horny business attitude towards products which need active marketing. But to support your comparison, Microsoft did an enormous amount of .NET commercials on television, entire glossy pages in magazine. The difference is however, they don't have to explain the product. The word Microsoft means money for businesses. The amount of money spend by Microsoft on .NET marketing runs into millions and millions. From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 11:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Has anyone watched to see if products such as SQL Server, Windows 2003 Server, .NET 2.0 get front page attention at Microsoft.com? -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? And, just for the record, does anyone think that adding a rotating ad banner to the home page of macromedia.com would do anything to change that perception (about security)? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205474 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Re[2]: Try Docubee Forms please
Dave, The contributions are there, but as with a lot of this stuff, it requires quite some knowledge to implement (and to debug or at least not to panic when something fails). I think that is the only part which is holding people up. There are no large technical boundaries anymore like you might have experienced in the Netscape 4 times. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205211 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Re[2]: Try Docubee Forms please
I responded on your line where you said Would be nice if more ppl would contribute this sort of thing to the cfm community :) Micha Schopman Project Manager ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205214 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Well, you made a point, and it wondered me and others too that there was no exposure for this on the Macromedia site if I might say power release. Stating it might have to do with flourishing sales, that would be nice but I don't think so. CFMX7 can always have extra sales, especially on the moment that competitors start gaining more marketshare quicker. I don't see what is wrong by exchanging the Flash with CFMX banners so you have a Breeze / CFMX combination circulating on the website. Flash already has pretty much a monopoly and so it would not have damaged marketing for Flash in such a way it would have affected Flash, but it would have helped CFMX in a very small amount for people navigating to the Macromedia website after the news coverage. There must have been a good reason, marketing teams usually don't forget placing such banners. I do understand the idea behind this post, looking forward to a merge with Adobe where alot of people expect the combination not to give CFMX the attention it needs and in return focus even more on Flash/FlashPaper/Breeze. We'll see what happens. Just wait when they sign the papers, and come out with more information like a roadmap for CF (hint). Micha From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 5/2/2005 5:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Paranoid conspiracy theory? What? Don't put words in my mouth, skippy. My post was a relevant topic on what I thought was MM's poor exposure of CFMX7 compared to products like Breeze and Flash Lite.No conspiracies - just facts about marketing collateral (or lack thereof) displayed on MM's website. I'm sorry, can you point me to the post where you told people posting about the MM/Adobe merger to move the posts to their personal blogs? Where is that post in the archive, because I can't seem to locate it...can you post the URL? Adrocknaphobia wrote: Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal blog... for which I will avoid. -Adam ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205279 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
They do, features like the reporting tool and the event gateway are aimed towards business users. I have used Crystal Reports alot, and everytime there were always large bugs or consistencies in the product. There are other products yes and Oracle offers a superior product but that comes with a superior price too. It was a relief when the CF report builder was released. Such functionality always does it well in business environments, managers kill for. I switched reporting the provision sheets, I create at the end of each project, from Crystal Reports to the CF reports builder. Although Flash is the unique product of Macromedia like Dave mentioned, I don't think it really helps Flash in marketing as it would have helped ColdFusion. Flash already has the market, ColdFusion obviously does not. If Flash has a new feature/version/player, sure do marketing. If no other product needs extra attention, sure do marketing for Flash. But when the need is there do marketing for ColdFusion. Micha From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 5/2/2005 7:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? For some reason I was thinking that CF should be targeted at business users as well... - Calvin -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Well said. Also, considering the shift in the marketing at MM, its not surprising that they're moving towards selling to business users and not developers. They've already carved out their niche to developers as being the #1 honcho when it comes to web development tools. Face it, even if they converted the whole site to be one big banner for Flash, almost everyone on this list would still use CF. With alot of their newest products being specifically for business users, its not surprising that they've chosen to put up a little eye candy... Kevin -- http://www.keslabs.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no matter how good or popular it is. Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed on practically everybody's computer. And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM site. I don't know how long it was there, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205293 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Afaik, there never has been any information that CF would provide developers to build that stunning RIA you are talking about. Don't blame that on Macromedia, nofi but blame it on yourself. You are responsible for your own information, with 3 years you should already know that you can't snap you vingers and voila a purple application with a golden edge pops out of the box. For everything you do on the web and to be on the edge of web development you need to invest more time than just learning CF, this has always been the case and has never been different. Sorry if some parts sound rude, it is not meant to... Micha From: Dwayne Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 5/2/2005 11:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? As I've said or implied for more than 3 years on this list. COLDFUSION NEEDS A NEW OWNER. Point Blank. I rate there management of the product line over the last few years as an B. It's clear that there are way more Macromedia Guys in the Board Rooms and server as Business Unit Directors. I still now people running on off Coldfusion 4.5 and 5.0. That's totally Macromedias Fault and RIA has been around for a minute. They promised that CF developers will have easier tools to integrate with Flash but what did we get. Flex. I still have to learn Flash to build any kind of stunning RIA. Now hear we are more than 3 years after the big RIA push. I said on this list that CF developers would deliver the RIA revolution before the Flash desigerners and flash animators. And I was right. If RIA delivered what they thought they would not be Adobe now. Cool tools, steap learning curves, and little skills are transferable. Lets face it the number of the shelf cfc components that work with flash is really, really slim compare to the old Allair Exchange site. Just my 2 cent. Dwayne Cole -- Original Message -- From: Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:54:31 -0600 Well said. Also, considering the shift in the marketing at MM, its not surprising that they're moving towards selling to business users and not developers. They've already carved out their niche to developers as being the #1 honcho when it comes to web development tools. Face it, even if they converted the whole site to be one big banner for Flash, almost everyone on this list would still use CF. With alot of their newest products being specifically for business users, its not surprising that they've chosen to put up a little eye candy... Kevin -- http://www.keslabs.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no matter how good or popular it is. Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed on practically everybody's computer. And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM site. I don't know how long it was there, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205329 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Microsoft sponsoring CFUNITED-05
They have a hard time figuring out what the need is in their products. The MSDN subscription system is a good sign of that. Frans Bouma blogged about this on http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2005/03/24/395759.aspx People are thrilled about the upcoming Team System, but for now, it seems it is only priced for enormous software houses. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205047 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any commercial CF products that could do this?
Should it be ColdFusion?, because there are several products fitted for such tasks like Microsoft Sharepoint Services and mostly a simple Microsoft Exchange environment with Outlook (notes, calendar, meetings, todo lists, journal, email for communication, archiving, search .. etc.) would do the job. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204905 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfoutput inside cfoutput with a string coming from a db
You should store the contents of the form variable name, not the form variable call. CFMX has no known template parsing engines, but my feeling tells me that you have difficulties understanding the principles. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Uwe Degenhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 27 april 2005 12:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfoutput inside cfoutput with a string coming from a db Hi list, I have a db-field let us say string_field. Let us assume that this field contains the followingexpression inside the db-field: Hello, my name is cfoutput#form.name#/cfoutput... When I output that with: cfoutput#a#/cfoutput appears Hello, my name is #form.name# So it doesn't work out as expected. How can I show the paramater correctly of #string_field# Thanks for infos. Uwe ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204643 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Client.LastVisit
What do you expect from lastvisit functionality? A cookie that is updated with each request for the specific domain exactly implements lastvisit functionality correctly. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Marcus Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 27 april 2005 14:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client.LastVisit Well... there must be a way, because CFForums and PHP-forums have this feature. I tried with a JavaScript, but that one updated the cookie everytime I went to a new page on the webpage. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204648 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Client.LastVisit
Yes you can, but you must think in terms of (and there are more to think off) - Set a time value, on each request reset the time value, if the time value expires the user either is asleep or gone, ergo lastvisit. - Call JavaScript onunload on each window blur, to notify the server of the lastvisit to that page. I would go for option one, just because it makes your lastvisit platform independent. You can easily use it in a Flash app as well. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Marcus Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 27 april 2005 15:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client.LastVisit I don't care about the lastVisit anymore. It does what it's supposed to do. I just want to know if there is a way to do almost the same as lastVisit does, but only updates the parameter when the user has left the webpage. Since the function I'm looking for is used in CFForum and other forums, there must be a way. :-) Maybe if it could be done with sessions. When the user leave the page and the session is closed, maybe the database can save the current time. And the next time the user visits the page, the time is read from the database to a parameter. Though I'm not sure if that's possible to do. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204669 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Session Timeout and User Authentication
Normally you would check for the existence of login information, like cfif structKeyExists(session,isLoggedIn) If it exists, continue, if not invoke methods to display the login part. That last one can be tricky, depending on the application. If you have an application, single paged, then you can easily do a cflocation to the login part. If you have, for example an web application with iframes, you must execute custom scripting to target correct frames, or display overlays with login forms. It depends on your situation. If you want to return the user, try looking at referrer variables. When relocating the user to the login page, provide the referrer page in the url. When the login is successful you can relocate the user back to that referrer page provided in the url. There are many ways each with their advantages, but this is just one of them. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 26 april 2005 8:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Session Timeout and User Authentication I have a user authentication system in my application that allows you to log in and view certain areas of the site based on a session variable. I'm wondering how people handle the following scenario. User logs in and has a browse of the site and finishes on a secure page. Then does nothing and their session times out. Then they click refresh on the page they're on (or click on a link to anther secure page), which uses their session id. As the session has timed out, you need to redirect them to log in again. You can obviously catch the error in that page but this isn't very scalable. You could have a list of pages in application.cfm that can only be viewed if the session id exists and check that the current page is in that list of pages. Again, not ideal. What does everyone else do in this situation? Is this something CFLOLGIN can handle or is that only suited to securing entire directories/applications. Can it work on a per page or section of page basis. Thanks! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204406 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CrystalTech Users Beware
If that wasn't the case you have the chance to die in a car-crash, I have never seen ColdFusion developers die of a software-crash. If so, we would have entire software developer cemeteries all over the world. In short, you are comparing apples and oranges. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 So, you say that even a cheap car should not be considered safe? I should not expect my $8,000 Chevy to have brakes that actually stop the car and headlights that work? Don't expect basic safety for that price! Hell, don't expect basic security as in door locks either! Safety and security should be #1 at any price level for any service or product, web hosting included!!! Low price is NO excuse for lazy installation/implementation or design. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204233 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Maybe Michael could introduce a subscription service with a small fee, so people have the choice to turn of ads when they pay for it. It imho also gives something back to Michael for his hard work. Micha. From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 3:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text? Why not just ignore them? Afaik people don't really send html email to the HOF lists, so if text in the message is linked in the archive, it's not because the author linked it and you can assume it's an advertisement (unless the text of the link is a url). Not all use the mailing list, quite a few people use the web interface where the problem is. Its difficult to ignore the links in certain notes when in a paragraph with CF mentioned multiple times times gets linked each and every time, and most of those links tend to be irrelevant. I have no problems with targeted adverts on the side and top, but the highlighted links in green in the text itself degrades how easily the text can be read. larry ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203640 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no need to compete with Microsoft. Both companies haven't really got competing products sold as so, and while I see it mentioned a lot, Avalon is not a foundation for RIA development. Avalon is merely the new surrounding framework for graphics (vectorized), and XAML would be the MXML for WinForms, not the web. XAML introduces a new way of building Windows applications by using the XML format XAML (which is actually a direct translation of Avalon function calls) so people, just like Flex, design the interface of their application with XML but purely for pure Windows applications. Micha Schopman Project Manager ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203469 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
I agree when you are talking about RIA for the desktop, but even then, where do you draw the line between a RIA or a common Windows application? I believe there is too much going about the term RIA. Can we call a P2P application a RIA since it has internet connectivity? Or can we only call it a RIA when technologies like Flex, XAML come in place. What defines a RIA? Internet connectivity? Used technologies? Amount of interactivity? Type of application? Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203494 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
fyi: Adobe to aquire Macromedia
Fyi: http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2005/adobe_macromedia.html SAN JOSE, Calif. - April 18, 2005 - Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq: ADBE) today announced a definitive agreement to acquire Macromedia (Nasdaq: MACR) in an all-stock transaction valued at approximately $3.4 billion Micha Schopman Project Manager ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203162 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
Oops :X Micha Schopman Project Manager -Original Message- From: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 18 april 2005 9:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203163 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
And GoLive absorbed into Dreamweaver. Micha Schopman Project Manager ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203167 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
