Re: [Chevelle-list] application lookup GM part# 03864680 hood hinge spring

[Chuck Hanson]

Here ya go John:


1964 1965 1966 CHEVY - CHEVROLET HOOD HINGE SPRING - Part# 3864680
CHEVY - CHEVROLET HOOD HINGE SPRING - Part Number 3864680 1964 1965  
1966. Purchase. For further details, contact OBSOLETE CHEVROLET P at  
229-686-5812.


Believe that's a full-size Chevy (Impala, Caprice, etc) they're  
talking about

Chuck



On Apr 27, 2011, at 2:43 PM, John Nasta wrote:

Hi everybody,

I have a pair of NOS GM part# 03864680 hood hinge springs and I was  
hoping to find a place to look up exactly which vehicles they fit. I  
tried gmpartsdirect but their site did not turn up any info for this  
part number.


Thanks,
John Nasta

Re: [Chevelle-list] 700 R4 Trans

[Chuck Hanson]

Good advice, Rick.  A reputable local trans shop is the way I'd go, too.

Ditto on your gear ratio selection...  The 2.73 won't cut it with the  
overdrive trans.  I had 3.08 gears in my '66 wagon w/700R4 trans, and  
it never was in its "sweet spot" while cruising @ 70 mph.  Changed to  
a 3.42 and the motor is a lot happier, plus mileage picked up about  
1.5 - 2 mpg to boot!  Since less throttle is now required to maintain  
any given speed, I had to reprogram the ECM for my Holley FI system,  
but it was only small tweaks in the light cruise mode.


Chuck


On Jun 19, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Rick Schaefer wrote:

   I'd go with someone fairly close to you.   No matter how good  
the rep, something can go wrong with a tranny from any builder.   
And then its a pain ($$$) to ship back & forth for repairs.In  
the Dallas area I know both Phoenix Transmissions & Jakeshoe are  
reputable builders.  And I've heard lots of good about Bowtie  
Overdrives in CA.So where are you located would be a good   
thing to know.


  Also with 2.73 gears and overdrive you'll be cruising at 1200RPM  
(more or less) - probably not the sweet spot for most motors.   I  
am running 3.31 gears and cruise right at 1700 RPM - 3.73 would  
probably be better for me.


On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:40 AM,  
 wrote:

Hi Larry,

These Southern California guys seem to be well thought of.

In Hesperia, CA
www.bowtieoverdrives.com/index.shtml

Car Craft put a 200-4R in a 1966 Chevelle
www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_0909_overdrive_transmission_swap/ 
photo_03.html


California Performance Transmission
In Huntington Beach, CA
www.cpttransmission.com/2004R_trans_2to4.htm

Dennis McGillis
949-533-7211
1965 Chevelle Malibu SS-350



- Original Message - From: "Larry Williams"  


To: "Chevelle List" 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:06 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 700 R4 Trans



Getting tired of pushing the clutch and shifting gears with the  
Richmond 5 sp.  The shoulder is starting to hurt.The 5 speed is  
a great transmission.  Totally bullet proof.  It has been a great  
combo with the 2.73 gears.  I think it is time to part with it and  
go with the 700 R4. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good  
source.  The ol  BB has about 500 hp.  No racing.  Will be looking  
for a home for the 5 sp.  The shifter is a Hurst.


Larry







--
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

Re: [Chevelle-list] Cat herding time

[Chuck Hanson]

Thanks for stepping up and organizing this big cruise, Bill.  I  
appreciate it,m and look forward to seeing everyone at Chevell- 
abration this year!  I just inspected Moss-Wright park, and the  
cleanup after last weeks  floods is coming along nicely.  Y'all drive  
careful!


Chuck

On May 10, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Bill Lessenberry wrote:

Okey dokey, it's time to start organizing the 2010 I-40 Eastbound  
convoy to Chevelleabration 10.  We'll be leaving on Wednesday, June  
9th. I'm sending this email to all the folks who have participated  
in the past.  Please email me back to confirm if you're going or not.
The plan from previous years has been to meet at the Lonoke AR  
exit, leave there at 10:00 AM,  drive to Memphis to eat at the  
Cajun Catfish Resturaurant and hook up with the Memphis group, then  
head to Nashville.


There have been some ideas about starting earlier from Lonoke in  
order to get to Nashville earlier to beat the rush hour traffic.   
Instead of leaving Lonoke at 10:00 AM, we could leave at 9:00 and  
get there an hour sooner.  Let me know your thoughts on this, please.


Last year the travelling folks stayed at the Holiday Inn Express  
Hotel & Suites at 4306 McCain Blvd in North Little Rock. Here's the  
website- http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/ex/1/en/hotel/litmb? 
rpb=hotel&crUrl=/h/d/hi/1/en/hotelsearchresults
This is a nice place with easy access to I-40 without any morning  
rush hour traffic hassles. I can look for other places to stay if  
you need me to.



Is the Cajun Catfish Restaurant still  OK with ya'll?  The food and  
the parking are great, we'll be there a little earlier, so the  
service should be faster and we can head out to Nashville sooner.


Can't wait to see ya'll again.
BillL

Re: [Chevelle-list] Test

[Chuck Hanson]

Alex, I think you need to take your pick-up lines and innuendo  
somewhere else where they'll do you more good.


Chuck


On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Barnes, Alex wrote:


Tom, Thats cool where is your club at.

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Tom Rightler

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:16 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test

U  no, I simply meant not time to cruise yet

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor
http://www.mdchevelleclub.com
-Original Message-
From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:10 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test

Tom, So i can assume your BI? Where is your chevelle club at? U up  
for some petting?


From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Tom Rightler

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:07 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test
Yes, I did

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor
http://www.mdchevelleclub.com
-Original Message-
From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:05 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test

Tom did you read my original post did you understand it?

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Tom Rightler

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:02 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test
South Jersey, 25 miles SE of Philadelphia

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor
http://www.mdchevelleclub.com
-Original Message-
From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:50 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test

Tom where you from?

From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Tom Rightler

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:37 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test
Way too much salt on the road here still.  None of mine are gonna  
be out for at least another month.


Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor
http://www.mdchevelleclub.com

-Original Message-
From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:15 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test

ANY BODY IN CENTRAL PA READY TO DO SOME CRUISIN? IM READY FOR A  
GOOD RIDE OR GIVIN A GOOD RIDE LOL CHEVELLES HAVE BIG BACK SEATS  
LOL IM UP FOR IT ALL(IM  BI)- CHEVYL69


From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- 
boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rich Pruett

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 7:13 AM
To: dennis mcgillis; The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test
Just wondering. It's been real quiet lately.

My 69 is on hold (damn it) until cash flow improves.

If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you  
handy.


Red Green

- Original Message -
From: "dennis mcgillis" 
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 11:57:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Test

Been working on the Chevelle.

All new front end bushings, new 14" wheels from Wheel Smith
that fit over the new disk brakes, new Firestone whitewalls that
look correct, and a much lighter wallet. The new wheels have 1"
less backspace so the track is 2" wider. The tires fill the
wheelwell better and the look is good.

The 14" effort was to retain the original SS full wheel covers.

Dennis McGillis
1965 Malibu SS-350


- Original Message -
From: Rich Pruett
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Test


Is there anybody out there?

Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life  
thinking

they had no faults at all.

You can only be young once. But you can always be immature.

--- Dave Barry

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Topic - Tea Bags

[Chuck Hanson]

Thanks for the insight on the mail processing, Rick, and the link to  
a great video.  I now understand why we have to send out several  
copies of Chevelle World magazine each time to ACES Members who call,  
saying they "have missed my copy."  We play the postal game by all  
the rules and regulations, and still get some back in "body bags,"  
likely because the only part of the magazine left that's legible is  
the return address to ACES. LOL! Of course, I've consulted many  
postal employees from the local counter clerk to the postmaster in  
Nashville where they are mailed from, asking why things happen the  
way they do, and always get the same "hundred yard stare" and a trite  
"Dunno what's causing this to happen like that.  Could be lots of  
things."  Now I know.  Again, thanks for the insight, Rick.


BTW, I, too, agree with the sentiment you've supported/expressed. And  
I believe a lot of other Americans do too. But respectfully request  
that folks follow your sage advice and NOT mail the tea bags, except  
by the method you suggested.  Afterall, the Chevelle World magazine  
you save may be your own!  Or a fellow ACES Member's.  Unfortunately,  
with the "movement" gaining momentum, the sorting system may be in a  
lurch for quite a while as it's inundated with well-meaning  
intentions and ill-advised contents.  Y'all take care, and keep on  
cruisin'!


Chuck



On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Rick Schaefer wrote:

This is a youtube video showing the mail processing machines 2 min  
long -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB7dhE_TW9g&feature=related


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Rick Schaefer   
wrote:
  I've got to chime in here.   I LOVE the sentiment.  I'm so  
frustrated about this -  I bought my first house in 1983 in after  
returning from overseas in the West Texas oil patch.  Within 2  
years it lost 25% of its value due to price of oil dropping to $10  
and lose of 400 military positions at my base .  NO ONE helped  
me with payments or anything else,  Took 13 years for the value to  
return.   When I sold it, i got $500  (before real estate fees)  
more  than I paid.  Having said that;


PLEASE DON'T  just put a Tea Bag in an envelope & mail it.   It  
won't make it out the door of your local Mail Processing  
Center. The machines we use to process mail will eat it.   And  
in the process eat LOTS of other letters with it.


Most people don't realize that when you drop a letter in a mail box  
- NO human touches it until the carrier drops it in a mail box at  
the destination.   The process is 99%+ automated.   The machines  
process 10+ letters per second.   When 1 letter jams a machine (and  
the irregular shape of Tea Bags surely will) - at least a dozen  
more letters pile into the jam before the machine can sense the jam  
and stop.


Emptying or partially emptying the Tea Bag would help your letter  
get through -  but then maybe we lose some of the symbolism.   My  
recommendation would be to mail the Tea Bag in one of those small  
brown packing envelopes that are not put thru the canceling &  
sorting machines.


My Editorial Comment - Everyday I pull jams out of machines that  
are caused by  people mailing:  Pens - Cassettes (not so much any  
more) - Thumb drives - coins - jewelry (cheap & expensive) -  
Hankerchiefs (the convicts at our local prisons use them for  
paper ???) - and most anything else you can think of.   PLEASE  
don't mail this stuff.  It won't arrive alive - if your lucky it  
will get to the destination a week late in a body bag.And in  
the process of jamming the machine it will tear up OTHER folks  
letters.  Including birthday cards, credit card payments, personnal  
letters etc etc.  If you've ever recieved a letter in a bag OR a  
payment never reached its destination- this is most likely what  
happened to it.


Having said all that, I agree we must do something to make the  
politicians in Washington take notice.







On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Solomon  
 wrote:
Sorry if this off topic post bothers anyone. I normally only post  
stuff about Chevelles, just a little frustrated at the way Congress  
has been spending my hard earned money.

Thought this sounded like a good idea.

Dan
"It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are  
in a hurry."

http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/



 IF THIS IS NOT YOUR CUP OF TEA, DELETE IT, IF IT IS COMPLY!


There's a storm abrewin'.  What happens when good, responsible  
people keep quiet?  Washington has forgotten they work for us.  We  
don't work for them.  Throwing good money after bad is NOT the  
answer.  I am sick of the midnight, closed door sessions to come up  
with a plan.  I am sick of Congress raking CEO's over the coals  
while they, themselves, have defaulted on their taxes.  I am sick  
of the bailed out companies having lavish vacations and retreats on  
my dollar.  I am sick of being told it is MY responsibility to  
rescue people that,

Re: [Chevelle-list] Nashville Auto Fest this weekend

[Chuck Hanson]

Sorry I didn't make it.  Brother Al came down from STL to work on his  
'69 Chevelle, so guess where we spent all weekend.  Shop was about 50  
degrees, so perfect for working in a sweatshirt.  Got lots done...  
Next time eh comes we're gonna hang front sheetmetal.  How as the  
crowd at the show?  Some Mid-=South club members said they went, but  
weren't very impressed. Wanted to hear what your take was on it.   
Maybe best we stayed here...  but still sorry we didn't get to see ya!


Chuck
On Jan 18, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Alex LaRue wrote:


I will be there, come by for a visit.  www.NashvilleAutofest.com



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LaRue Insurance, Inc.   800-303-3518  or  270-358-3101  Fax  
270-358-8978

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Hodgenville, KY  42748

Visit us online at www.LaRueInsurance.net or www.LaRueClassics.com

Ask me about AcuComp, a workers comp cost reduction service, and our
complete line of Business Insurance, Bonds, and Personal Insurance.

Join President Bush and a host of others here in Hodgenville on  
February

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Re: [Chevelle-list] JUNK Sanderson headers

[Chuck Hanson]

Hey Mike,
Try the Hedman Elite shorties.  PN: 500-68618   I put 'em on my '72 "Silver
Bullet" wagon (502w/Richmond five-speed) and they worked great... cleared
the clutch linkage and gave me plenty of ground clearance.  The tubing was
heavy 14-gauge and the head flange was a full 3/8-inch thick, so no warpage,
plus they come already ceramic-coated.  Plug clearance, as I recall was
pretty good, but then I think with most BBC headers (regardless of the
manufacturer) it's not as problematic as with the SBC applications.  Seems I
paid about $300 for the set.  HTH!

Chuck



on 5/23/07 5:10 PM, Michael Pell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The Hooker Comps actually fit great on my '69.  They just hang way too
> low.  I have stock ride height, with 3.5" of clearance under the
> collector flange.
> I drag them driving down my level driveway with minimal ruts in the gravel.
> I'm with Dale, I'm about ready to go back to manifolds.
> 
> I'd try Doug's or anyone else, but no one else makes a
> shortie/intermediate for a '69 with BBC and manual trans.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --
> I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there
> isn't, Than live my
> life as if there isn't, And die to find out there is. -Blaise Pascal
> 
> Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com
> TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com
> Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold),  ACES member #1377
> Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6
> 
> 
> 
> Matthew Post wrote:
> 
>> In your experience, which headers have the best fit?  Hedmans?
>> Someone else said Doug's fit good?  My main concern is ground clearance.
>> 
>> -Matt
>> 
>> At 06:34 PM 5/22/2007, Mike Holleman wrote:
>> 
>>> I know what your dealing with. I have used Sanderson's on customers
>>> cars. Ill fit and poor welds. We swapped headers with them on a Nova
>>> and the second time they failed I just rewelded them myself.
>>> Mike
>>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Pell"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] JUNK Sanderson headers
>>> 
>>> 
 I have the BB3 intermediates.  I'd say, don't bother.  Just return
 them.
 
 Mike H.  I have a BBC Chevelle with manual trans, and I want the
 'shorty'/intermediate headers.  Hedman and Sanderson are the only 2
 headers I know of that will fit.Oops, make that "Hedman is the
 only ones I think will will fit".
 
 AGG!!!
 
 -- 
 I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find
 out there isn't, Than live my
 life as if there isn't, And die to find out there is. -Blaise Pascal
 Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com
 TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com
 Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold),  ACES member #1377
 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6
 
 
 
 Matthew Post wrote:
 
> I'm also having an issue with Sanderson headers for my BBC.  They
> bolt up okay, but the passenger side header rubs the frame.
> Usually the passenger side slides right in and the driver's side is
> the tight one!  I was going to exchange the long tube for their
> intermediate ones, but now I don't know if I should bother.
> 
> Matt
> 
> At 03:59 PM 5/22/2007, Michael Pell wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone ever actually bolted on a set of Sanderson 
>> headers?
>> Of 5 sets for a BBC that I know of, not a single set will bolt up
>> to a a BBC.
>> That's 0 for 5   aaahh!!   My first set would not
>> bolt on.  Called Sanderson, talked to the owner.  She (yes, she)
>> started giving me some lame excuses for why it might not bolt on.
>> I don't care about your quality issues...  She said they'll send
>> me a new set;  test fitted to ensure they will work for me.2
>> week later, I call to inqure as the whereabouts of my new set.
>> Jeremy says, " we only had 3 sets on hand, and 2 of the sets would
>> not bolt on to a set of heads; the 'good' set will ship out
>> today".  Why 2 weeks later on the day I call to inquire?  and why
>> would 3 of 4 sets not bolt up?  Junk, that's why!
>> 
>> So I get them, finally, nearly 3 weeks later.   Tonight I test fit
>> one one.  NOT!  Stupid junk crap still won't bolt on.   42 years
>> of the same bolt pattern; same head, same, same same!  arrrgghhh!
>> I've spent $500.00 and wasted 2 months on these headers.
>> 
>> How hard is it to bolt up to a 40+ year old design?  I could build
>> a flange myself that would bolt up, with a hand drill!
>> 
>> I guess I get to grind and cut on a brand new set of coated
>> headers..   AAGGHHH!!!
>> 
>> I'm wishing I would've saved time and money and frustration, and
>> boug

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off topic

[Chuck Hanson]

You're gonna get a fair amount of noise from ANY Corvette, Dan.  If you look
at the design, the rear wheels are right behind the passenger compartment,
and with the aggressive tires used on the Corvette, road noise (especially
on the rough pavement you described) is problematic.  I just swapped my '99
roadster (straight across for a '67 SS396 convert!) for the same reasons.
The problem is exacerbated in the coupes because what you have is
essentially an amphitheater behind you and the noise is redirected forward
right at the passenger compartment.

Last Corvette I owned previous to the C5 was a '69 big-block roadster, and
honestly aside from the overall level of sophistication (suspension, brakes,
drivetrain & amenities), the overall driving experience of the C5 was still
pretty much the same as the '69.  The seating position, the way the front
wheel humps impinge on the forward view, the shape of the windshield and the
viewable area through it, the relationship of the driver and the controls...
all pretty much the same. The part I enjoyed most about the car, however,
was the consistent 25-27mpg I got at 70-75mph!  For us, the 'Vette was our
"economy" car...

If you really have your heart set on a 'Vette, Dan, you can add more sound
deadener back there and switch to a set of Michelin Pilots.  Both will help
reduce the noise, but it's still an aggravation... at least it was to me.

Besides that, I watched the value of the 'Vette continue to decline, while
the value of the '67 'vert keeps going up.  Plus, I get a lot more thumbs up
in the Chevelle!  No brainer for me.  Besides, I think I'm done mid-lifin'.

Good luck with your decision.

Chuck


on 4/7/07 8:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Jeeze Dan, did you hit the freaking lottery? Old trucks and Corvettes; you're
> my idol.
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Dan Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Apr 7, 2007 9:55 AM
>> To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
>> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Off topic
>> 
>> I just test drove a 2000 Corvette with a 350. I like the car and it's very
>> low mileage and very clean! The only problem we had, was driving the car on
>> rough texture asphalt roads. The noise coming from the rear hatch was pretty
>> bad. Could it be a leaking rear hatch seal or a misfit rear hatch? The hatch
>> seems flush when you inspect it in the rear and I did look at the gasket and
>> it seems OK.
>> 
>> The car drives like a dream, is very responsive, but when you hit the
>> rougher asphalt, and have to drive on it for many miles the sound can be
>> deafening. Trying to talk in the car is a major pain and while it has a
>> great Bose Stereo, what good is it with all the noise.
>> 
>> If the noise is a problem with Vettes, I don't want one, old or new!
>> 
>> Dan Mascheck
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Happy Easter Everyone

[Chuck Hanson]

Amen!


on 4/6/07 2:29 PM, Alex LaRue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Just like Jesus, Chevelles rise from the dead, just takes more than 3
> days!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Alex LaRue
> LaRue Insurance
> Personal & Business Insurance
> Collector Car Insurance
> Life Insurance
> P O Box 119
> Hodgenville, KY  42748
> 800-303-3518   Fax 270-358-8978
> 
> Visit us online at www.LaRueInsurance.net or www.LaRueClassics.com
> 
> Join President Bush and a host of others here in Hodgenville on February
> 12th, 2008 to kickoff the two year Lincoln Bicentennial Celebration!!!
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle World

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle World



Heh!  Great answer, Karl!

Chuck


on 9/2/06 11:43 AM, Karl Groves at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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From: mike h [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:44 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle World


HOW DO I STOP GETTING E MAILS FROM THE GROUP???  PLEASE HELP. 


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle World

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle World



Glad you like our latest project, Rick.  And thanks, too, for all your years of supporting ACES (Member #140!!!).  

Just got lucky, I guess.  This was a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend kinda deal, and was one of those stories that sounded too good to be true.  Fortunately (for me!), it wasn't. 

Briefly, the original owner drove the triple-black and loaded '69 SS396 coupe until sometime in '71... racking up just over 20k on the ticker.  He decided he wanted to repaint it, since the factory lacquer job wasn't to his liking.  After stripping the bumpers and all the external trim from the car, as well as removing the entire interior, he learned that the body shop that was supposed to do the work had gone belly-up.

Apparently he never tried to find another body shop, nor did he reassemble the car and resume driving it.  Instead, it remained sequestered in his garage until about five years ago, when he suffered a stroke.  His condition forced the sale of his home (and garage) and he moved in with his sister who was able to take care of him.

Unfortunately, she wasn't able to provide the same kind of  care for the Chevelle, and it spent three years outside exposed to the elements of South Jersey.  So, even though it showed very low mileage, the original lacquer paint had become cracked and checked, everything had a coating of surface rust (some components worse than others), and the back seat got misplaced.  That was the only missing piece, however, as the rest of the interior and the bumpers, emblems and everything else (even the "rolled" exhaust tips!) was still present and in very good condition.

As mentioned earlier, the car is loaded.  It's triple black with a bench seat, but the option list is fairly extensive: Factory A/C, tilt column, rosewood wheel, tach & guages, AM-FM stereo with 8-track, speed warning, rear defogger, map light mirror, auxiliary lighting group, deluxe seat belts, tinted glass, F&R bumper guards, F-41 suspension, narrow whitewall wide ovals, floor mats, remote OSRV mirror, D-80 side stripes, door edge guards, HD battery, and a 350hp 396ci w/TH400.  Whew!

Suffice it to say that it's a very cool car worthy of the time, attention, and money I plan on spending on the frame-off.  Keep reading Chevelle World as we document the process.  My only regret with the car is that I didn't hear about it before it was relegated to outside storage.  Wow!  What a survivor it would have been!  Even though the paint was checked by the time it came into my possession, I believe that if I'd gotten it before the ravages of time and weather took their toll, I could have buffed it and detailed it back to very nice condition. Oh well It has a good home now!

Chuck




on 9/1/06 1:13 PM, Rick Schaefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Got mine Tuesday and finally had a  chance to read it last night.    Good stuff, as usual.   Enjoyed the Tech Article on rebuilding the 396.   The first paragraph got me hooked.  So, if you are listening Chuck;  Whats the story behind the 20,000 mile survivor.  Where did you find it and why was it parked?    If you've covered the info already in a previous Chevelle World point me in that direction.   Thanx for taking care of our Chevelle fix again. 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle World arrived today

[Chuck Hanson]

on 8/28/06 8:20 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks again for another excellent issue,Chuck. Hope this finds you and
> LaRae doing well. I have a question about the new issues. Up until this
> year,there was always a Members Rides section in the back that gave members
> with less than feature-quality cars their "fifteen minutes of fame",so to
> speak. Is there any chance you might bring this section back? I always
> enjoyed it and that was probably my car's only chance to ever be in the
> mag.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> 1969 El Camino protourer
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
> "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a
> pile of brass."
> 
> 
> 
Yep, we'll bring it back, Clint.  The photo count for that section has been
down a little over the Summer (I guess during the warm weather folks have
plenty other things to do than send us pix of their cars), but we plan on
bringing it back in the Sept/Oct issue.  Currently I've been concentrating
on getting caught up on writing/producing all the back issues, and am
finally starting to see the end of the tunnel.  In fact, I'm working on the
May/June issue now, and after that the July/Aug issue will have CB'06
coverage.  Also been working with another Member to index all the CW
articles since the beginning (10 years worth!), which has turned out to be a
fairly formidable task.  I believe ACES Members will appreciate the hard
work that went into it, however.  Probably run it in the Sept/Oct issue as
well.

Here's a bit of news you might enjoy, too, Clint...  Beginning with the
CB'06 issue we're going full color from cover-to-cover, and adding four more
pages of content.  I guess my thoughts are if we can't go monthly with the
mag, why not instigate improvements that will give Members a bit more bang
for their buck?

As for your Elky making it into the mag, I would have to say the biggest
inhibitor is not taking it to one of our Regional events, Clint.  Because CB
is such a busy event for me, I never get a chance to shoot feature cars
there, and have to rely on our Regional attendees to provide me with
material.  Plus, the added possibility of having your Chevelle photographed
for CW may have a slight effect on attendance ( we hope).

Of course, I'm always on the lookout for Chevelles that meet our criteria
for features; not only do they have to be great cars with considerable
craftsmanship and other attributes, but it seems I'm always short on '64s,
'68s, and El Caminos.  I believe your Elky fills at least the majority of
that criteria.

At any rate, I hope our paths cross again soon, Clint,  I hope things are
going well on your end; reading some of your posts on the Chevelle List has
given me some insight to the difficulties you're facing now.  You're in my
thoughts an prayers, my friend.

Warmest regards,

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Control Arms Removal

[Chuck Hanson]

You can find the entire control arm boxing/rear swaybar upgrade article in
the Sept/Oct '01 issue of Chevelle World.  Although our work was
accomplished on a '71, it is pretty much the same drill for all A-bodies.

Chuck


on 8/28/06 6:17 PM, Tom Tomlinson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> There was an article in Chevelle World a couple of years ago covering
> the rear sway bar installation, but I can't remember which issue. Maybe
> someone else can remember.
> 
> Tom Tomlinson
> 
> 
> Larry Shouse wrote:
> 
>> Thanks to everybody who responded. While reading your replies, I
>> realized I don't have any idea just how the rear anti-sway bars mount.
>> I had better figure that out before I go welding in the pieces to box
>> in the lower control arms...
>> 
>> Can anybody point me to an article or share a couple of pictures
>> showing how they mount up?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Larry Shouse
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Matthew
>> Post
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2006 5:47 PM
>> *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Control Arms Removal
>> 
>> I think Herb's suggestion would work.  As long as the rear tires
>> are off the car, you can wiggle the rear end quite a bit with the
>> jack under the center of the rear end housing.  If it's not moving
>> enough, just unbolt the bottom end of the rear shocks to get a
>> little more movement.  Just be careful of the springs falling out
>> and make sure they are seated properly before bolting everything up.
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>> At 01:58 PM 8/28/2006, Jim Sullivan wrote:
>> 
>>> What is boxing the control arms??  Is it just welding a piece to
>>> make them look like the HD control arms??
>>> If that isn't it, I often wondered if that would work rather than
>>> spending $100.00 + on new ones??
>>> Is it?? Will it??
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Herb,  If the car is only up on jackstands that really isn't high
>>> enough for him to wiggle his rear end enough to be helpful
>>> You had to guess that after you sent that, someone would jump on
>>> it
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Herb Lumpp 
>>> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Rear Control Arms Removal
>>> 
>>> Larry,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Probably the easiest thing to do is to lift the car high
>>> enough to put the frame on jacks stands just forward of where
>>> the lower control arms connect to the frame.  Then you can
>>> remove both lowers and box them (of course don't forget to
>>> support the rear end itself with the floor jack).  The upper
>>> arms don't need to be boxed and they will hold the rear in
>>> position while the lowers are out.  Putting them back in
>>> place may require a few choice words and some wiggling of the
>>> rear end.  Have fun.
>>> 
>>> Herb
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
>>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>> Larry Shouse
>>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:43 PM
>>> To: Chevelle List
>>> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Rear Control Arms Removal
>>> 
>>> It's time to remove, box in and install new bushings on
>>> my control arms. With the vehicle weight on the rear end,
>>> how many control arms can I take off at one time without
>>> having to take out the rear end?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Larry
>>> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Photo bus

[Chuck Hanson]

on 5/31/06 3:23 PM, Bill Lessenberry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Last year there was a couple who brought a bus with photo backdrops
> to get your car's pic made. Does anyone here know if they'll be back
> this year? I hope to made of Rosanne in front of that country store
> if they're there.
> 
> BillL
> 
> 
They'll be there, Bill.  In fact, they've put a cool new twist on the
backdrop for this year.  The backdrop will be a solid green background, and
once the digital image is captured, the owner of the vehicle will be able to
chose from (I believe) nine different backgrounds.  We had them at the
ACES/Peach State Southeast Regional, and if you thought last year's photos
were pretty spectacular, wait'll ya see the new ones!  I think that the
price for the matted and framed picture is very affordable, too.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] CB'06 packets

[Chuck Hanson]

on 5/24/06 1:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Blue confirmation Postcard arrived today
> 
> Whew..I was getting worried...I forgot the packets won't be giving out until
> we get there..
> 
> Terry S. Hodges
> Crestwood Kentucky
> 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/05/23 Tue AM 09:00:03 EDT
> To: 
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] CB'06 packets
> 
> Have the packets been mailed out yet for this years EVENT ? The only reason I
> ask is that someone at my local post office has to read my magazine before I
> get it and I just didn't want them to scab my tickets  and membership
> information!
> 
> 
> Terry S Hodges
> Crestwood Kentucky
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Glad you got yours, Terry.  Hope every one else's show up soon in their mail
boxes.  I know from experience that mail is slow to TX, OK, FL, PA, IL, and
at times, MD.  Don't know why...

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] CB'06 packets

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] CB'06 packets



on 5/23/06 8:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Have the packets been mailed out yet for this years EVENT ? The only reason I 
> ask is that someone at my local post office has to read my magazine before I 
> get it and I just didn't want them to scab my tickets  and membership 
> information!
> 
> 
> Terry S Hodges
> Crestwood Kentucky
> 
> 
Hi Terry,
The only thing that you'll get regarding Chevell-abration is a confirmation card with your registration # on it.  They were recently mailed out. Be sure to bring the card with you to the event, as it's what we use to complete your registration and give you all the goodies that go along with it.  We don't mail out registration packets any more for the exact same reasons you've cited.  We'll look for you at the event!  BTW, your registration is #031, in case someone gets to your mail before you do. Have you complained to your local postmaster?  Good luck getting things resolved.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] CB06

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] CB06



The latest issue of CW has been in the mail now for about three weeks, John.  And we've been getting registrations every day.  Perhaps the effects of the hurricane have slowed down mail service in Louisiana, because I've received the same comment from others living in LA, too.  Rooms should be no problem, as there are plenty of other hotels within 10-15 minutes of the event, in case all the rooms are taken at the hotels at exit 97.  If you don't wanna wait 'til you get your magazine, you can go here to print a copy of the registration form:  http://www.chevelles.net/mcc/cb06.htm    MUST BE AN ACES MEMBER TO REGISTER!

Hope to see you and your Chevelle at CB'06, John!

Chuck



on 5/2/06 10:07 PM, John W. Lonadier, Jr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has the latest issue of Chevelle World come out yet with the registration for CB06? Been toying with the idea to try and make it this year but I haven't seen the registration form yet or have I missed it. As for a room I don't know if I can get reservations or not and I don't want to tie up a room that someone else could use if I don't go.
 
John L. 

ACES #5597 

70 LS5 TRIBUTE 

http://chevellfan.com/index89.html 

http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:06 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] CB06

Les,
 
I have a room reserved at the Comfort Suites in Goodlettsville, TN that I won't be using because we'll have just moved into our new house in Hurricane WV and won't be able to attend!   With that said, call them, they still have a few rooms available, especially after I cancel my reservation.
 
The first time we went to CB we stayed at this hotel.  It was nice, clean, close to the park, and decent price.
 
Comfort Suites
621 Rivergate Parkway
Goodlettsville, TN, US, 37072 
(615) 448-2100
Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:55 PM
To: CHEVELLE-LIST@CHEVELLES.NET
Subject: [Chevelle-list] CB06

We are heading up for CB06 in June and are looking for motel room. Does anyone know anything about the Red Roof thats called North Nashville? Guy there said it's 5 min from park but watching list it seems most folks are staying elsewhere. Does anyone know if this is a decent motel or have other suggestions? Thanks, Les. A.C.E.S.# 6525 

Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Brake Drums

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Brake Drums



I have several sets... yours for the price of shipping.  You may want to check out local resources, however, as the weight could make the shipping cost prohibitive. If I recall correctly, the rear drums are 2" wide x 9.5" diameter with a 4.75" bolt circle, and almost any GM intermediate up through the late 80's used the same spec.  So finding drums that interchange should be no problem, unless you're after the "correct" ones for your application.  In fact, I believe there are even some Buick G-body applications that used aluminum drums (w/iron liner) that will yield a slight unsprung weight savings, and you might be able to luck up on in a salvage yard.  If you want to check shipping on the drums, estimated weight is 25lbs for the pair; I'm in zip code 37172.

Chuck


on 5/2/06 9:17 PM, Larry Shouse at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Devin.
 
Anybody out there have a set or rear drums they want to get rid of?
 
Thanks!
Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Devin   
To: The Chevelle Mailing List   
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 Brake Drums

If my memory is correct you should have 2" wide drums on the rear and 2.5" wide drums on the front.  I think they will slide on however.  Been a while sine I had drums on the front.
 
Devin
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Shouse   
To: Chevelle List   
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] 66 Brake Drums

Is the front drums the same as the back drums on a 66? I need drums for the back brakes, and I don't need the set up front. 
 
Thanks.
Larry Shouse

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevellabration

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevellabration



Sorry you'll miss out, Melanie, but you've got your priorities in the right place!  Generally, we try to have the event the first full weekend in June every year, but actually moved it back a week to try and make things easier for folks with kids still in school.  We tried for the middle of the month, but the park has a huge Dixie Youth baseball tournament going on there that weekend every year, so we kinda have to take what we can get.  Beyond that, the ACES Regionals start happening, with only a short time between them to catch you breath (and do laundry!) before heading back out to another event.  Like you said, Melanie, only a couple more years...

Chuck


on 5/2/06 1:40 PM, Melanie Lopez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm VERY sorry to say we had to cancel our hotel reservation for CB06 and we won't be able to attend. I was SO looking forward to it. ( I was the one who was worrying in January about when the registration forms would be coming out !) So I am wondering, is CB always the same weekend in June? Here in NW Indiana, our kids are still in school (taking final exams) that week, so it rules that weekend out for us if it is the same weekend every year, at least for two more years, that is. 
 
You guys are making me crazy with all your talk about how fantastic it is going to be and we are going to miss it.  But we have to put family first. It doesn't look like any of the regional events are very close to us either, unless I'm missing something. 
 
Our Chevelle is not finished yet, though we get closer to it all the time (full frame off restoration).  Just ask Gene, we keep buying more parts from him !  :^) 
And I think we are going to have a LOT more questions for you Chevelle experts as we start putting things back together. 
 
Just wanted to whine a little about not going to what sounds like a phenomenal event. Hopefully we will get the car done and attend some time soon.  
 
By the way, we are ACES members, # 6716. 
 
Melanie 

Re: [Chevelle-list] CB06

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] CB06



on 5/2/06 11:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are heading up for CB06 in June and are looking for motel room. Does anyone know anything about the Red Roof thats called North Nashville? Guy there said it's 5 min from park but watching list it seems most folks are staying elsewhere. Does anyone know if this is a decent motel or have other suggestions? Thanks, Les. A.C.E.S.# 6525 

It's pretty much like any other Red Roof in layout and design.  Fairly economical lodging that's really close to the rest of the evening activities in the parking lots of the other hotels.  Property is about 15 years old, so not a brand-spankin' new building, but I understand rooms are clean and showers are hot.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevellabration Spectator Fee??

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevellabration Spectator Fee??



on 5/2/06 6:20 AM, Keith Anderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does anyone know what the spectator entry fee is for Chevellabration and do 
> ACES members have to pay it?
 
The Spectator gate is $10/day, or $15 for all three days.  Of course, this allows you to not only look at all the beautiful Chevelles, but also to shop the swap meet, check out all the cool stuff on the manufacturer's midway (and buy any needed new and repro parts), attend all the seminars, and enjoy the camaraderie of fellow Chevelle enthusiasts.  

Of course, if you are an ACES Member, you're also eligible to register (even  without your Chevelle), and enjoy all the above, plus the rest of the benefits offered only to Chevell-abration Participants.  Not only will you get the goody bags stuffed full of cool stuff, but you'll also get a free commemorative event T-shirt (pretty cool design, if I do say so myself... It's the 10th year of Chevell-abration!!!), chances at all the great door prizes we give away, you can take part in all the participant games (redneck horseshoes, pedal car drags, connecting rod toss, etc), plus you'll have a seat at the annual ACES barbecue/awards ceremony.  Oh yeah, almost forgot... You'll also have a chance at the $1000 cash giveaway at the awards ceremony (must be present to win).  The registration is $50 for ACES Members.

So you do the math and figure out which one appeals to you most.  If you're planning on being at CB'06 for the entire weekend, but just want to look around, then the $15 deal will probably work best for you.  But if you're already an ACES Member and want to get the full experience of Chevell-abration, then you might give serious consideration instead to the registration... even without your Chevelle.  

Either way, I guarantee you'll have a great time, checkin' out the largest gathering in the world of really cool Chevelles, and the best part (at least for me)... meeting and visiting with all the great folks that bring their Chevelles.  Trust me, there's nothing else like it!  But then, as the president of ACES, I'm a little biased!!!  Hope to see ya there, and be sure top come up and introduce yourself to me when you can (that is, if you can pull yourself away from all the other stuff that's going on!).

Chuck

[Chevelle-list] ACES Members

[Chuck Hanson]

Wow!  Great to see all the ACES members on here.  Hope to see y'all at
Chevell-abration... if not this year, then at a future event.  And if you
can't attend, maybe one of the ACES Regionals works better for you.  We're
kicking off The ACES event schedule this weekend with an event in
Gainesville, GA.  Other Regionals include Baltimore, Niagara Falls, Kansas
City, Denver, and Seattle.

And here's some inside info for those of you that like to drive your
Chevelles and El Caminos...

The Kansas city event will also be the starting point for another "Chevelles
Across Ameri-Cruise," similar to the one we did last year.  The following
weekend will find us cruisin' into Denver, and the weekend after that we'll
be in Seattle.  It's open to any and all Chevelle enthusiasts who want to
get out on the open road (don't have to be an ACES Member), and stay for one
leg, two legs, a week, or for the entire trip.  Details will be forthcoming
as plans are finalized, and will be posted on the Team Chevelle  "Cruisin'"
forum.

It may not be as big a deal as the Hot Rod Power Tour, but the good times
and memories of last year's "Chevelles Across Ameri-Cruise" were enough to
make me want to try and put together another one for this year.  Naturally,
for ACES Members, more info will also be contained in upcoming issues of
Chevelle World Magazine.

Thanks for the bandwidth, and thanks again to all ACES Members for your
continued support!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] ACES members

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] ACES members



Yee Haw!!!  Let's hear it for Rick... One of the original ACES Charter Members.  Thanks for 10 years of uninterrupted support, Rick!  And for the rest of you?  Here's a warm-hearted handshake to each of y'all, too.  Hope to deliver them in person at Chevell-abration.

Chuck




on 4/30/06 9:13 AM, Rick Schaefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

#00140
rick

 
On 4/30/06, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Larry Fisher    
ACES #1191
- Original Message - 
From: Clint Hooper   
To: The Chevelle Mailing List  
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] ACES members

 
I know we have around 400 subscribers on this mailing list. Just curious but how many of you are current ACES members?
Member #1650 here.
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino protourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger For Sale
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass."

Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle

[Chuck Hanson]

Thanks for the plugs, guys!  Dale, you're right about me not advertising my
stuff on the 'net.  I prefer to have ACES Members get first shot at anything
I try to sell.  However, both the '69 SS convert and the black SS with the
427/six-speed are both gone.  The only '69 I have left is the Frost green
Malibu hardtop (350/PG/PS/PB/factory A/C) w/green bench interior. Nice,
solid KY car that's a good cruiser with newer paint, redone interior, and
five-spoke Vintage (Torq Thrust look-alikes) 16x8 wheels.

Oh, and we've moved into our new home/office, so the ACES Hotline has also
changed to: (615) 643-ACES (2237).  I can send pix of the Malibu (and any
other car I have listed in Chevelle World classifieds) to anyone who's
interested.

OK, now I gotta get back to work, as I almost have the next issue of CW
ready to go to press, and it's the one with the CB'06 registration form in
it!

CH



on 3/17/06 11:59 AM, Dale at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I don't think Chuck advertises his cars on the Internet but he does
> advertise them in his Chevelle World magazine.  Number listed is
> 615-773-2237 for some of his stuff in the magazine.
> 
> Dale McIntosh
> 67 El Camino
> 1967 Chevelle Reference CD
> http://www.chevellecd.com
> ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Haines
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:48 AM
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle
> 
> Clint;
> 
> Are these on the web site?
> 
> Steve
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle
> 
> 
>> Chuck Hanson,ACES prez,has three very nice 69 Chevelles for sale,ranging
> in
>> price from $17,500 for a slick Malibu,to $27,500 for a Black SS
>> w/427-6spd,to a restored Lemans Blue SS convertible for $59,900. I would
>> never be concerned about buying from Chuck. His stuff is primo.
>> Clint Hooper
>> H&H Custom,owner
>> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
>> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
>> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Alex LaRue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve,
>> You might try to make the ACES Regional events where you will see many 69s
>> and might be able to buy one. You will be able to tap the huge wealth of
>> knowledge that is always walking around as well. I suggest you learn how
> to
>> read a trim tag so you can tell what you are looking at. There is some
>> software available on the TC website that can help you with all the codes.
>> The list can probably help you make up a list of codes to look for on the
>> trim tags. I bought the software and have used it many times.
>> 
>> 
>> Alex LaRue
>> LaRue Insurance
>> Personal & Business Insurance
>> Collector Car Insurance
>> Life Insurance
>> P O Box 119
>> Hodgenville, KY  42748
>> 800-303-3518   Fax 270-358-8978
>> 
>> Visit us online at www.LaRueInsurance.net or www.LaRueClassics.com
>> 
>> Join President Bush and a host of others here in Hodgenville on February
>> 12th, 2008 to kickoff the two year Lincoln Bicentennial Celebration!!!
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:27 PM
>> To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
>> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle
>> 
>> 
>> When you fin the car you think you want, isuggest you hire an appraiser to
>> verify what condition etc. it is in before pulling the trigger. A family
>> member did not do so recently and really got burnt on a 69 chevelle. It's
>> money well spent. gm66
>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> From: "Danny Wilsher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
>> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Buying 69 Chevelle
>> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:24:25 -0600
>> 
>> MessageSteve, you may have got more than you expected here. There are
>> numerous 69 SS owners here and they are all way more helpful than you can
>> imagine. It would also help if you would let us know what shape of car you
>> are looking for. And a price range that you are willing ot spend and i bet
>> these guys will hook you up!! My son just sold one about a month ago but
> it
>> was a pro

Re: [Chevelle-list] ACES email?

[Chuck Hanson]

Hey Matt, just drop me a PM with your new info on it, and I'll update your
Member info.  I doubt you'll get your latest issue forwarded to you by the
USPS however, as they are mailed out at the book rate.

You may recall, the Member Info Sheet (said "Please Read: Important Info" on
it) asked for you to contact us whenever you change addresses.  You can call
the Hotline (615) 643-ACES anytime after 7pm central time... we answer the
phone until 11pm central.  If you missed the issue, Matt, we make back
issues available FREE to all current ACES Members.  Just need a little help
with the P&H; just send $2/issue and note telling us which one you missed.

BTW, Clint, Dale and everyone else who's helped with ACES info here and on
Team Chevelle, I really appreciate it.  The family tragedy, this move, and
trying to get caught up on back issues have pretty much kept me off the
boards lately.  The issue I'm currently working on will have the CB'06 info
and registration form in it.  I'm looking forward to seeing all our ACES
Family Members (and their Chevelles/El Caminos!) at Chevell-abration again
this June.  Y'all take care in the meantime.

Chuck Hanson
ACES



on 3/6/06 1:57 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If the magazine has "Forwarding Requested",it will get to you. Not sure if
> it's mailed Bulk or First Class.
> Chuck does need to change the white cover on the magazine,though. It still
> has the old information listed.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
>> Thanks Clint.
>> 
>> If you just got the new issue last week, maybe the mail forward I have in
>> place will get it to me.
>> 
>> At 11:36 AM 3/6/2006, Clint Hooper wrote:
>>> ACES has moved to a new home. The new address is: ACES, 2576 Memorial
> Blvd,
>>> Springfield,TN 37172, new Hotline is (615) 643-2237.
>>> I just received the latest issue last week.
>>> Clint Hooper
>>> H&H Custom,owner
>>> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
>>> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
>>> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Speaking of ACES, I have moved and neglected to let ACES know!  I fear
> I
>>>> may have missed the lastest issue of Chevelle World.  Anyone have an
> email
>>>> address for them?  If not, I will just call the hotline.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Matt
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] registration

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] registration



Dates are locked in, Clint: Thurs-Sat, June 8-10  Looking forward to seeing you in June!

Chuck


on 1/11/06 8:42 AM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I received the latest issue yesterday and read it cover to cover last night at work. Even saw the tail end of my El Camino in the background of another photo. But,can someone tell me the dates for this year's event so I can put in for vacation that week?
Thanks,
Clint Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Hanson   

If you read my Steering Column, Melanie, you know that we got behind and are  now in the process of getting caught up with the back issues.  The registration form for CB'06 will appear in the January/February issue, as it does each year. That issue will be produced as soon as we finish the two issues we're working on currently.  I appreciate your patience, Melanie (and the rest of the ACES Members, too) as we get things back on schedule.  And, to ease your mind a bit, you'll have no problem getting registered, as there is room for over 800 Chevelles in our "new" location in the park.

Chuck 

Re: [Chevelle-list] registration

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] registration 



on 1/10/06 11:53 AM, Melanie Lopez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was happy to receive my July/August Chevelle World a couple of days ago.  Great articles about Chevellabration 05, but still no registration form for 06. 
Do I need to quit worrying about this ? 
 


If you read my Steering Column, Melanie, you know that we got behind and are  now in the process of getting caught up with the back issues.  The registration form for CB'06 will appear in the January/February issue, as it does each year. That issue will be produced as soon as we finish the two issues we're working on currently.  I appreciate your patience, Melanie (and the rest of the ACES Members, too) as we get things back on schedule.  And, to ease your mind a bit, you'll have no problem getting registered, as there is room for over 800 Chevelles in our "new" location in the park.

Chuck 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Power Tour

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Power Tour



Thanks for joining ACES, Dave, and no you haven't missed any issues.  Since you're a new Member, allow me to explain why you're behind in getting your issues.  Simple truth is that we're behind in getting them out.  Some of this is "normal," and some is not.

Each Summer (May thru August) we travel extensively to ACES events, which gets us behind in our magazine production.  Usually we try to get caught up during the Fall, and in the past have been fairly effective at accomplishing that.  In August of this year, however, while we were on our way to the final ACES event of the year, an all-Chevelle cruise to our Regional in Seattle, we learned that our 23-year-old son had died accidentally. 

Since then we've been trying to deal with the loss and put our lives back together. With God's grace and the prayers and heartfelt support of our friends and the hobby in general, we're finally starting to return to normalcy.  In fact, we just sent the July/August issue (Chevell-abration coverage) to press and are already working on the Sept/Oct issue.  the Nov/Dec issue will get our full attention after that, and we hope to be caught up by the end of January.  

I'm not trying to make any excuses for being behind, Dave.  I know we owe our Members everything they deserve, and I give my word that you'll get all your issues of Chevelle World... only they'll be a little late.  In fact, since you joined in September, you'll actually get a couple of extra issues because of our delayed mailing, since your Membership won't come up for renewal until Sept '06.

BTW, as a general rule we can't return phone calls... there'd simply be too many.  However, I want to remind you that all ACES Members can take advantage of the ACES Hotline  (615) 773-ACES (Tech, deciphering, authenticating, or just talking Chevelles) from 7-11pm Central time.  Give us a shout then...  Mondays seem to be busiest, but from mid-week on you should be able to get through without much difficulty.

Thanks again for joining ACES, Dave. We hope to earn your trust and continued support once we get things back on track.

Chuck



on 12/8/05 2:45 PM, Dave Birchmire Sr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I called a few weeks ago and did not hear from anyone. I am a 
> new member to ACES. I recived the June/July mag. back in Sept. but nothing 
> since. I am behind on issues ?  I have a 70 SS396 with a four speed. 
> Cranberry red with black stripes and cowl induction. It's a real nice #2 
> driver that I am having a great time with. I sold my #1 Mustnag Boss 351 
> trailer queen to buy her. Got tired of all the concours nat. events not 
> being able to have fun with her.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Dave 
> Birchmire Sr.
> 
> Pennsville N.J.
> 
> p.s. The chevelle came from
> S.E. classic cars in Lebanon Tn.
> 
>> From: Chuck Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>> To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Power Tour
>> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:21:25 -0600
>> 
>> They're still in a bit of a conflict, but only if you want to be a Power
>> Tour "long hauler."  The dates for this year's Chevell-abration are June
>> 8-10 (Thurs-Sat), while the HRPT runs from June 3 (Florida) to June 10 (New
>> Jersey).  I've been on four of them (twice all the way), and can understand
>> why the HRPT is sometimes referred to as the "sleep deprivation" tour.
>> Quite a few ACES Members that try to make both of them split the time: A 
>> few
>> days of losing sleep on the PT, then coming to Nashville for a relaxed
>> weekend of great cars and great people.  Guess it just goes to show you 
>> that
>> you CAN have your cake and eat it too!  This year we anticipate having over
>> 500 classic Chevelles filling Moss-Wright Park, with participant events
>> ranging from drag races to cruises, and swap meets to seminars.  I think 
>> the
>> biggest difference is that Chevell-abration is a real family-oriented event
>> with things to keep Mom and the kids occupied; the HRPT is pretty much a
>> "guy thing," although plenty of wives, girlfriends and female enthusiasts
>> attend the Tour as well.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 12/5/05 8:14 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Their dates have been conflicting for the last several years.
>>> Clint Hooper
>>> H&H Custom,owner
>>> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
>>> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
>>> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
>>> - Original Message ---

Re: [Chevelle-list] Power Tour

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Power Tour



They're still in a bit of a conflict, but only if you want to be a Power Tour "long hauler."  The dates for this year's Chevell-abration are June 8-10 (Thurs-Sat), while the HRPT runs from June 3 (Florida) to June 10 (New Jersey).  I've been on four of them (twice all the way), and can understand why the HRPT is sometimes referred to as the "sleep deprivation" tour.  Quite a few ACES Members that try to make both of them split the time: A few days of losing sleep on the PT, then coming to Nashville for a relaxed weekend of great cars and great people.  Guess it just goes to show you that you CAN have your cake and eat it too!  This year we anticipate having over 500 classic Chevelles filling Moss-Wright Park, with participant events ranging from drag races to cruises, and swap meets to seminars.  I think the biggest difference is that Chevell-abration is a real family-oriented event with things to keep Mom and the kids occupied; the HRPT is pretty much a "guy thing," although plenty of wives, girlfriends and female enthusiasts attend the Tour as well. 

Chuck




on 12/5/05 8:14 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Their dates have been conflicting for the last several years.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry Shouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
>> Nice story. Is Chevellabration and the Power Tour always running at the
> same
>> time? I noticed in the story that the Power Tour cruised through as
>> Chevellabration was getting started.
>> 
>> Larry
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] gen light on - open to suggestions

[Chuck Hanson]

on 9/20/05 1:51 PM, John Nasta at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I just had the alternator tested and it is putting out 14 volts at the
> battery even with the headlights and the generator light on (and the
> wipers). The battery was also load tested and it seems to be fine. So, I
> don't seem to have a bad alternator or a bad battery, yet the generator
> light comes on when the headlights are on. I have HEI and an internal
> regulator, and M&H built the engine harness & forward lamp harness for that
> setup. I have a total of 4 wires connected to the alternator. Two go into
> the plastic clip, and I assume those must be right. The other two both go
> into the rubber boot and are attached to the post at the back of the
> alternator. Does that sound correct? Any help is appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> John Nasta
> 
> 
> 
> 
It's easy to get the bulb receptacles mixed up and in the wrong holes on the
back of the gauge cluster, John.  I noticed similar symptoms on a couple of
my '69s too, except that it was for the oil pressure warning light at the
bottom of the cluster.  Check to see that the warning light bulb for your
charging system doesn't have a grey wire coming out of it.  Grey wires are
for the dash lights, and if they've been inadvertently switched it might
explain why you have an alternator warning light ONLY when the headlights
are on or the dash lights are illuminated.

It's not real easy to see up in there behind the dash sometimes, and if you
end up taking the gauge carrier out of the dash for a better look, you may
as well replace all your bulbs and spend a little time cleaning the gauge
lens.  It'd also be a good time to clean the gauges faces with a "blow
brush" like the kind photographers use to clean their lenses... You can pick
one up inexpensively at most photo supply stores.  It's amazing how much
brighter everything looks with a clean lens, gauge faces, and new bulbs!

Hope this helps!

Chuck Hanson

Re: [Chevelle-list] 70 ss only

[Chuck Hanson]

I've tried to dig up some "official" original factory documentation on the
396/402 change, but came up empty.  I remember seeing/reading something
years ago, and the reason stated in the article discussing the 402 (396ci
+.030") was to produce a more favorable bore/stroke ratio in the pursuit of
reduced emissions. 

Back then, emission controls were in their infancy and the OE's were trying
lots of different methods to help them mitigate the expulsion of unburned
hydrocarbons into the atmosphere.  Playing with bore/stroke ratios was one
of them.  Some of you may also remember the 307 small-block, which was
contrived by combining the 327 stroke and a 283 bore.  It, too, was an
experiment in emissions reduction.

Getting back to the 402, it was first introduced in late-production '69
Chevelles, and the easiest way to ID them is the addition of a "C" prefix to
the engine code stamped on the front of the engine block.  For instance, a
"normal" 396/350hp/4spd Chevelle engine would have a "JC" engine code, while
the 402 version of the same engine would feature a "CJC" stamping on the
front of the block.  The addition of the "C" prefix carried over to the '70
and subsequent engine codes.  To the best of my knowledge, the 402
supplanted the 396 in all '70 and later Chevys.

As for retaining the '70 SS396 moniker (even though the engine actually
displaced 402ci), that was a marketing ploy pure and simple.  Since it's
inception in '66, the SS396 just kinda rolled off the tongue easy and became
synonymous with Chevy high performance.  Understandably, Chevy was reluctant
to give up the equity they had in such a catchy name and kept it as long as
they could.  In '71, however, the Super Sport with the 402ci big-block was
referred to as merely an SS, and the "396" emblems that hung below the SS
badges on the fenders were eliminated as well.

Please feel free to add or edit my recollections if your differ from mine...

Chuck 



on 6/16/05 11:14 AM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Gene is correct and brings up a very good point; why did GM increase the
> displacement to 402ci?
> Maybe Chuck Hanson or someone else in the know can shed a little light on
> the subject.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gene's General Restoration Parts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> What I remember is up to 69 it was a 396 and after 70 the bore was
>> increased .030 which made it a 402 but was still badged and called a 396.
>> Some cars like the Monte Carlo and I think full size it was refered to as
> a
>> 400 Big Block and they also had the 400 Small Block to make it more
>> confusing...
>> I don't know why they went .030 over, maybe they had a bunch of blocks
> they
>> were able to rework with the over bore? Anyone know why they went .030
> over?
>> Gene
>> www.genesgeneralrestorationparts.com
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] CHEVELLEABRATION

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] CHEVELLEABRATION



on 6/9/05 10:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

it kicked off today.  I am here right now.
 
Tom


Great burnouts at the drags tonight, Tom!  I'm dumping my memory to a disc right now, but I know I got several good smoky ones of you.  Did you get your Chevelle in the 8s tonight?
Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Guages

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Guages



They did the restoration on the 6k redline gauges for my '69 L89 convertible, David.  We ran the story in the Jan/Feb issue of Chevelle World, and on page 11 (if you have that issue) you can see the miracles they worked with the tach I sent them.

They do great work, and have worked on some of the Year One project cars... that's how we came to know about them.  I'm very satisfied, especially since the '69 gauges are some of the most difficult to do because of the "metallic" markings on the faces.  Be sure to tell Gentry you're a fellow ACES Member.  He'll treat you right!

Chuck




on 5/11/05 4:47 PM, The Hanks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am about to send my 66 factory guages off to be refurbished, tested and silk screened. .  I noticed in the Aces Chevelle world  Auto Instruments in Martinsville VA. Does anyone have any experiece with them or can you suggest someone else.  Thanks  David  

Pilot Point, TX  

The Hanks 

Re: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,,

[Chuck Hanson]

on 5/4/05 10:49 AM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I wouldn't have any luck,at all. Walking across the room last night,I felt
> something pop in my right foot. Pain was instantaneous and my first thought
> was I had snapped an Achilles tendon. Off to the ER and after x-rays,it
> looks like the main load-bearing bone just broke. Waiting to see an
> orthopedic specialist today. I'm facing possible surgery and even if I dodge
> that bullet,will be looking at least 6-8 weeks off work. Being a
> shift-worker,the cut in pay is bad enough but there is a good chance I might
> have to stay home & miss Chevellabration next month. Now,I'm really
> concerned. Have never broken any bones in my life until now and to do it
> while simply walking is a tough pill to swallow. Sorry for the venting but
> this really pisses me off.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> 1969 El Camino ProTourer
> 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
> 
> 
> 
Hey Clint,
Hate to hear about your bad luck.  And even more so that you'll possibly
have to miss CB'05.  I was really looking forward to seeing you and your El
Camino after all the work you've done to it.

If it's any help, Clint, we do provide special parking for handicapped
participants, should you decided to rent a wheelchair or one of those
motorized electric "scooters'.  We had a lady that used one last year, and
she said the terrain was fairly navigable with her scooter.  Let me know if
there's anything we can do to make life easier for ya!  We've got lotsa guys
that can help load/unload any equipment you need to get around.  We even
have an EZ access porta-potty, if that's a concern.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Off-Topic: Horsepower TV episode

[Chuck Hanson]

It was a Nitrous Works system, from Barry Grant.  Easy install, good results
for the time/money.

Chuck




on 6/14/04 6:46 AM, John Fig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I think it was a Nitrous Express system
> 
> 
> --- Clint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Whose nitrous system was it?
>> Clint Hooper
>> H&H Custom,owner
>> LT5 Registry Director
>> http://www.LT5Registry.net/
>> ACES #1650
>> 
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Crazy Rusty
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone catch the episode that aired today between
>> 6:00 and 6:30 on the west coast?  They put a nitro
>> system into an LS1 camaro.  I am looking for that
>> exact same system but they don't have it listed on
>> the website.  I am already at 370 hp at the rear but
>> I wouldn't mind having that extra 100 - 125 hp umph
>> when a newer cobra comes around.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - JB
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Friends.  Fun.  Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] CB2005 dates ?

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] CB2005 dates ?



No dates set yet... Have to meet with the City council and park director to submit my request.  Looking at June 9-11 as my primary request dates.  Still have to get approval yet, and coordinate dates with Fan Fair here in Nashville (Country music event), which is huge and makes it difficult to get rooms anywhere close to Nashville when its going on.  It's just winding up today, so they followed us by a week this year.  Just watch your Chevelle World issues, as I will make the announcement in there as soon as I know something.

Chuck






on 6/11/04 11:51 AM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck,
 
  Have the dates for CB2005 been picked out yet ?  
 
Kent
'68 Malibu  ZZ502/502
ACES #5102 
 
- Original Message ----- 
From: Chuck Hanson   
To: The Chevelle Mailing List   
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Just got back

on 6/9/04 10:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

well i got back Sunday afternoon  from Chevellabration. i got home Sunday @ 2 PM  and went straight to bed. between work and trying to catch up on some sleep this is my first time back online. 
i met several members from the list. i don't think i have ever met a nicer group of people. i think i spent 75% of my time talking to people, 15% eating and maybe 10% looking at the cars. Friday night I tagged along to the drags and took a couple pics of tom's 70 and mike's 69 racing. 
anyway except for spending way too much money and not sleeping for 5 days I had a great time. I actually spent about 5 hours drooling and taking pictures of Terry Gunters Z16. 
Chuck thanks for all the fun and hope to see you @ Graham! 

    Larry (Z) 

Glad you had a great time at Chevell-abration, Larry.  Looking forward to seeing you again in Graham!  I agree with you about the people, Larry.  The Chevelles might be what brings us all together, but it's the people that keep us all coming back year after year.  I've made so many good friends at Chevell-abration, it's become as much a "family" reunion as it is a Chevelle show!

Chuck 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Just got back....

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Just got back



on 6/9/04 10:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

well i got back Sunday afternoon  from Chevellabration. i got home Sunday @ 2 PM  and went straight to bed. between work and trying to catch up on some sleep this is my first time back online. 
 i met several members from the list. i don't think i have ever met a nicer group of people. i think i spent 75% of my time talking to people, 15% eating and maybe 10% looking at the cars. Friday night I tagged along to the drags and took a couple pics of tom's 70 and mike's 69 racing. 
anyway except for spending way too much money and not sleeping for 5 days I had a great time. I actually spent about 5 hours drooling and taking pictures of Terry Gunters Z16. 
 Chuck thanks for all the fun and hope to see you @ Graham! 

 Larry (Z) 

Glad you had a great time at Chevell-abration, Larry.  Looking forward to seeing you again in Graham!  I agree with you about the people, Larry.  The Chevelles might be what brings us all together, but it's the people that keep us all coming back year after year.  I've made so many good friends at Chevell-abration, it's become as much a "family" reunion as it is a Chevelle show!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Just got back....

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] Just got back



on 6/6/04 3:51 PM, John W. Lonadier, Jr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

from CB' 04. Had a GREAT TIME. The only sour note was the rain on Thursday, but Friday and Saturday were perfect. Got a chance to put a face with some of the names on this list. Also got to talk to Chuck a few times, he is A REAL CHEVELLE FANATIC, loved every minute of it. Can't wait till next year!!!
 
John L.
ACES #5597
70 LS5 TRIBUTE
http://chevellfan.com/index89.html
 


Glad to hear you had a great time, John.  It was good to talk with you and all the other folks there that share my passion for America's Favorite Muscle Car!  I hope everyone had a safe trip home, and that their cameras worked flawlessly for the weekend.  I just turned in 22 rolls of 36 exposure Fuji... many of which will appear in Chevelle World event coverage.  

Thanks again to all who were able to make it.  And for those that couldn't/didn't... well, there's always next year.  Now get out in the garage and spin those wrenches so you won't have that excuse to fall back on in '05

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Cowl Induction

[Chuck Hanson]

on 2/9/04 2:02 PM, mike f at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yep! I thought I remember seeing that Yunick car in
> Florida because it was illegal. The drip edge was
> shaved and door handles and window glass was flush
> with the body surfaces.  Gold and black is right.
> I thought I saw the car in Don Garlitts museum? Why
> there, I don't remember.
> Trivial information, I know.
> 
> Mike Fry
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> From: "Zieg72" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> I remember that article.  Black car with gold
>> wheels.  Talked a lot about
>>> taking the rules to the limit???  I will look and
>> see if I still have it.
>> 
>> Didn't every article about Smokey involve black and
>> gold cars and taking the rules to the limit?!  ; )
>> There was a 66 Chevelle too.
>> 
>> 
>> Pete Geurds
>> Douglassville, PA
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> __
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The '66 spent some time in Floyd Garrett's Muscle Car Museum in Sevierville,
TN before being purchased by a collector in CA a couple years ago, and
making the trek west.  As it is currently in the possession of this private
collector, who knows when the interested public will ever be able to see and
appreciate it for its mechanical and historic significance.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Cowl Induction

[Chuck Hanson]

Yeah, Mike, he certainly put the design to use on his infamous "7/8-scale"
'66 Chevelle race car... But even before that the design was employed on
early-60's Chevy racers, too.  I distinctly remember seeing one on a '63
Impala back in the day.

Chuck


on 2/9/04 10:42 AM, mike f at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Chuck and all.
> I thought I saw this in an old CHP magazine. So during
> the holidays, I dug a years worth out and looked but I
> did not find it. I rememberd something about this
> firewall-aircleaner assy made by Smokey Yunick for the
> 67 chevelle NASCAR car.  Does that sound right?
> 
> Mike Fry
> 
> --- Chuck Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> on 2/4/04 10:11 PM, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> I got the latest issue of Chevelle World with the
>> article about installing a
>>> cowl induction setup through a hole in the
>> firewall (Rudisill's cowl plenum
>>> system). I also noticed that John Bedenbender's 66
>> Elky
>>> 
>> 
> http://www.midwestchevelles.com/past_shows/mw2002/66elky.htm
>> had a similar
>>> cowl plenum arrangement through the firewall
>> (pretty cool). Some articles
>>> about cowl induction on the web said that the cowl
>> induction intake should
>>> be 1" or more above the hood line since air flow
>> at the hood line was low.
>>> If this is the case, could there be an air flow
>> problem with intake through
>>> the firewall, which I assume gets its air through
>> the cowl grate which is
>>> below the hood level?
>>> 
>>> Tom Tomlinson
>>> '71 Malibu
>>> '66 El Camino
>>> 
>>> 
>> Tom,
>> Somewhere in the article I'm sure I mentioned the
>> fact that a high pressure
>> area exists at the base of the windshield.  Smokey
>> Yunick may not have been
>> the first to figure it out, but he sure put that
>> theory to practical
>> application, and if you peek under the hood of any
>> NASCAR racer you'll find
>> that essentially the same system is still put to
>> use.  The pressure
>> differential at the base of the windshield is also
>> the same reason that
>> Chevrolet configured the '69 Camaro and '70-2
>> Chevelle Cowl Induction
>> packages like they did.
>> 
>> The cowl plenum system that Rudisell is offering
>> duplicates the
>> over-the-counter package that Chevrolet offered
>> during the late Sixties, to
>> help improve on- and off-track performance of
>> serious Chevy competitors.
>> I've seen them installed on Camaros, Chevelles,
>> Novas, and even full-size
>> Chevys.
>> 
>> The discussion of airflow over the surface of the
>> hood is a bit out of
>> context for a true "cowl induction" setup, because
>> the high pressure at the
>> base of the windshield is quite adequate enough to
>> yield a "force air"
>> effect.  The notion that the intake location should
>> be at least an inch
>> above the hood's surface applies most directly to a
>> forward facing "scoop,"
>> and placing one in that location (at least an inch
>> above the hood's surface)
>> increases its effectiveness substantially.  An even
>> better solution for a
>> forward facing scoop is to locate it at the leading
>> edge of the hood, much
>> like the Olds 442 setups of the early Seventies.
>> 
>> The rearward facing scoop on the second-generation
>> Trans Ams, however, were
>> minimally functional at best... and purely cosmetic
>> at worst.  The location,
>> elevation, and direction of the "scoop" all
>> conspired to reduce its
>> effectiveness considerably.  They did "shake"
>> whenever the engine was
>> throttled, however, and DID LOOK pretty cool.  I
>> also question the
>> effectiveness of the Mopar and Ford "Shaker" scoops
>> of the same era.  At the
>> very least, they did allow a cooler, denser charge
>> of air into the engine,
>> although it had to be sucked in rather than forced
>> in by using nature's
>> physics to accomplish the job.
>> 
>> My '69 L89 convertible has been finished since last
>> June, and the cowl
>> plenum setup is a definite attention-getter at all
>> the shows and cruises
>> I've taken it to, not to mention the unique wail
>> that emanates from the
>> firewall opening every time the secondaries are
>> called into action.  It may
>> not be for everybody, but for me it was the perfect
>> complement to my '69 SS!
>> Those of you who watch HorsePower TV will get a
>> quick peek at it in a week
>> or two...
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Cowl Induction

[Chuck Hanson]

on 2/4/04 10:11 PM, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I got the latest issue of Chevelle World with the article about installing a
> cowl induction setup through a hole in the firewall (Rudisill's cowl plenum
> system). I also noticed that John Bedenbender's 66 Elky
> http://www.midwestchevelles.com/past_shows/mw2002/66elky.htm  had a similar
> cowl plenum arrangement through the firewall (pretty cool). Some articles
> about cowl induction on the web said that the cowl induction intake should
> be 1" or more above the hood line since air flow at the hood line was low.
> If this is the case, could there be an air flow problem with intake through
> the firewall, which I assume gets its air through the cowl grate which is
> below the hood level?
> 
> Tom Tomlinson
> '71 Malibu
> '66 El Camino
> 
> 
Tom,
Somewhere in the article I'm sure I mentioned the fact that a high pressure
area exists at the base of the windshield.  Smokey Yunick may not have been
the first to figure it out, but he sure put that theory to practical
application, and if you peek under the hood of any NASCAR racer you'll find
that essentially the same system is still put to use.  The pressure
differential at the base of the windshield is also the same reason that
Chevrolet configured the '69 Camaro and '70-2 Chevelle Cowl Induction
packages like they did.

The cowl plenum system that Rudisell is offering duplicates the
over-the-counter package that Chevrolet offered during the late Sixties, to
help improve on- and off-track performance of serious Chevy competitors.
I've seen them installed on Camaros, Chevelles, Novas, and even full-size
Chevys.

The discussion of airflow over the surface of the hood is a bit out of
context for a true "cowl induction" setup, because the high pressure at the
base of the windshield is quite adequate enough to yield a "force air"
effect.  The notion that the intake location should be at least an inch
above the hood's surface applies most directly to a forward facing "scoop,"
and placing one in that location (at least an inch above the hood's surface)
increases its effectiveness substantially.  An even better solution for a
forward facing scoop is to locate it at the leading edge of the hood, much
like the Olds 442 setups of the early Seventies.

The rearward facing scoop on the second-generation Trans Ams, however, were
minimally functional at best... and purely cosmetic at worst.  The location,
elevation, and direction of the "scoop" all conspired to reduce its
effectiveness considerably.  They did "shake" whenever the engine was
throttled, however, and DID LOOK pretty cool.  I also question the
effectiveness of the Mopar and Ford "Shaker" scoops of the same era.  At the
very least, they did allow a cooler, denser charge of air into the engine,
although it had to be sucked in rather than forced in by using nature's
physics to accomplish the job.

My '69 L89 convertible has been finished since last June, and the cowl
plenum setup is a definite attention-getter at all the shows and cruises
I've taken it to, not to mention the unique wail that emanates from the
firewall opening every time the secondaries are called into action.  It may
not be for everybody, but for me it was the perfect complement to my '69 SS!
Those of you who watch HorsePower TV will get a quick peek at it in a week
or two...

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] '68 bucket seats with head rests ... Rare??

[Chuck Hanson]

on 2/3/04 7:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've acquired a set of black '68 bucket seats with head rests, are these
> things rare or a dime a dozen?
> 
> I know the '67's are pretty rare.  They do have the side push button and
> plastic seat backs and are in pretty decent shape.  How much are these things
> going for these days??
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Donnie
> 
They're fairly rare, Donnie.  I've looked at a lot of '68 Chevelles over the
years and have only seen a few with factory headrests.  In fact, only 2426
were fitted with the RPO A81  (bucket) headrests from the factory.  Of
course, rarity doesn't always determine the price... they're only worth what
one man will give and another will take.  But, for a person looking for the
correct setup for their '68, I'd say they'd probably give more than the
going rate for the more common '69-'72 versions.  JMHO.

Oh, in case anyone is interested, the bench headrests were only installed in
1571 '68 Chevelles.  Even rarer yet!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Upcoming shows...

[Chuck Hanson]

on 10/11/03 4:01 PM, Herb Lumpp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> 
> Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.  Yes we got a hotel, we're staying at
> the Best Western on Roan Street.
> 
> Herb
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Hanson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:35 AM
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Upcoming shows...
> 
> 
> on 9/30/03 10:08 PM, Herb Lumpp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Is anyone going to be at the Super Chevy Show in Richmond VA this coming
>> weekend?
>> 
>> How about the Year One Bristol Bash the weekend of 17-19 Oct?
>> 
>> 
>> Herb Lumpp
>> http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
>> 
>> 
>> 
> I'm planning on attending the Year One Bash in Bristol.  Talked to the Year
> One folks, and they told me they are moving things around, placing the show
> cars on pavement this year and not so far away from the food, drags, and
> vendors.  Plus, they said they were gonna have food in the show car area as
> well.  You got a hotel yet, Herb?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
See ya at the Bash.  We're arriving tomorrow afternoon.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] engine vacuum lines

[Chuck Hanson]

on 10/3/03 12:42 AM, John Nasta at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> So, the PCV valve goes to the large, unported vacuum at the base of the
> carb, right?
> 
> Transmission modulator valve goes to ported vacuum, yes? Does anybody know
> the diameter of the vac line I will need for that?
> 
> This is for a 69 El Camino w/ Edelbrock carb & TH350.
> 
> Thanks,
> John Nasta
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
John,
The trans modulator connects to direct intake vacuum, generally a fitting
located on the intake behind the carb.  The ported vacuum source is
typically connected to he vacuum advance for the distributor. On my '71, the
TH350 modulator line is appx 1/4-inch steel with rubber connections at each
end to ensure a leak-proof seal. I'm sure you can order these from most
companies that supply brake/fuel lines.  HTH

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Upcoming shows...

[Chuck Hanson]

Almost forgot... They also are gonna let us drive on the track again this
year.  Last year we got plenty of laps in, and none of that 30mph "stay
behind the pace car" BS either!  Several Chevelles had their brakes and
tires smokin' when they came off the track!!!  Too much fun!

CH 

on 10/1/03 10:48 AM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tell me more about the Bristol Bash,guys. I've still got a week of vacation
> left and if my new Baers get here before then,I might need to take a good
> road trip to break them in.
> Clint Hooper
> H&H Custom,owner
> LT5 Registry Director
> http://www.LT5Registry.net/
> ACES #1650
> http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
> - Original Message -
> From: Chuck Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> 
>> I'm planning on attending the Year One Bash in Bristol.  Talked to the
> Year
>> One folks, and they told me they are moving things around, placing the
> show
>> cars on pavement this year and not so far away from the food, drags, and
>> vendors.  Plus, they said they were gonna have food in the show car area
> as
>> well.  You got a hotel yet, Herb?
>> 
>> Chuck
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Upcoming shows...

[Chuck Hanson]

Mike,
I plan on driving over on Friday morning... should get there about noon or
shortly after. Extended forecast looks good: Dry with below normal temps.
Year before last it was pretty nippy early in the morning, and it didn't
warm up until the sun got over the mountain.  Definitely bringing the jacket
this year!

Glad to hear I won't have to harass you again this year!  Pretty sure I'm
gonna drive my '71 convertible.  Just got the ZZ4 running today... be a good
opportunity to break it in!

Chuck   



on 10/1/03 12:35 PM, Mike Holleman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Chuck,
> Sounds like some changes for the better. Now if you can get them to Make
> Chevelles and El Camino's seperate classes.  I put my ACE's sticker on my
> Elky this morning(just so you won't fuss at me this year)
> Look forward to seeing you again.
> Mike Holleman
> ACE's 04910
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Upcoming shows...
> 
> 
>> on 9/30/03 10:08 PM, Herb Lumpp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Is anyone going to be at the Super Chevy Show in Richmond VA this coming
>>> weekend?
>>> 
>>> How about the Year One Bristol Bash the weekend of 17-19 Oct?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Herb Lumpp
>>> http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> I'm planning on attending the Year One Bash in Bristol.  Talked to the
> Year
>> One folks, and they told me they are moving things around, placing the
> show
>> cars on pavement this year and not so far away from the food, drags, and
>> vendors.  Plus, they said they were gonna have food in the show car area
> as
>> well.  You got a hotel yet, Herb?
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Upcoming shows...

[Chuck Hanson]

on 9/30/03 10:08 PM, Herb Lumpp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is anyone going to be at the Super Chevy Show in Richmond VA this coming
> weekend?
> 
> How about the Year One Bristol Bash the weekend of 17-19 Oct?
> 
> 
> Herb Lumpp
> http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
> 
> 
> 
I'm planning on attending the Year One Bash in Bristol.  Talked to the Year
One folks, and they told me they are moving things around, placing the show
cars on pavement this year and not so far away from the food, drags, and
vendors.  Plus, they said they were gonna have food in the show car area as
well.  You got a hotel yet, Herb?

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-list] Plugs for Big Block?

[Chuck Hanson]

on 9/5/03 4:57 PM, Trooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I just finished a complete rebuild on a 69 396 and wanted some input on
> what number of AC plug to use on the motor. The heads are 69 castings
> w/o the tapered plug seat. They are closed chamber heads. I am also
> running HEI ignition. My big question is do I use AC R43XLS (long
> threads), this is what the book says to use but man they look long, or
> AC R43S (short threads) What are you BB guys running in your motors?
> 
> Trooper
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Didn't remember seeing any responses to this one, so I'll give it a shot...

I remember installing the XLS plugs back when the cars were new, and if your
heads are the standard "flat washer" type (not the tapered seat style) these
are the correct [plugs for your '69.  If your heads are the original '69
castings, they'll have the standard "flat" plug seats.  The tapered seat (or
"peanut") plugs were introduced during the '70 model run... some of the
earliest '70 engines actually used the flat washer style, others used the
tapered seats... even though they both used the same 290 or 291 castings.
Ya just gotta take a look down in the plug opening to tell which ones were
used.  

Besides being "correct" for your '69, Trooper, the XLS plugs put the plug
tip in the combustion chamber for improved spark introduction and increased
ignition efficiency. The question now is, can you still get the XLS plugs?

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top

[Chuck Hanson]

on 7/8/03 5:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> THANKS again Chuck, any pics of these pieces??
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I'm leaving town early tomorrow morning for the ACES Northern Regional in
Niagara Falls, NY.  Plan on being back Wednesday of next week.  Send me a
reminder then and I'll take a few pix of the setup to give you an idea of
what the factory setup looks like.

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top



on 7/7/03 2:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 7/7/03 1:40:17 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 These are just the "plastic"
part of the hold-down, and attach to the metal part of your existing
hardware. HTH.

Chuck


THANKS Chuck, 
all I have is the quarter trim panels- i need all the rest- how many diffrent pieces are there?? will the top fly up while driving without them?





The metal part that the plastic tabs attach to are stainless, about 16 gauge and about six inches long and an inch wide.  I doubt that without them the top will "fly up," especially if you have the top boot properly installed.  Nobody I know of is repopping the metal part of the latch, so you'll probably have to find them in a junkyard or swap meet.  Push comes to shove, you may be able to fab up a pair using the info I've just provided.  If they're not perfect, who cares?  They aren't visible with the top down anyway, and barely visible from the inside with the top up.  Good luck finding or fabbing what you need.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] manual convert top

[Chuck Hanson]

on 7/7/03 12:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> does any-one have the latches which go onto the upper rear quarter trim
> panels that hold the top down-when down??
> thanks
> H
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If you've got as '68-'72 model Chevelle, try contacting Vince O'Donnell in
Claymont, DE  (302) 798-9506.  He repro'd a short run of them, and was
selling them for $35/pair about a year ago.  These are just the "plastic"
part of the hold-down, and attach to the metal part of your existing
hardware. HTH.

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] $@*$#@$#$@&$$$ rain...

[Chuck Hanson]

I don't know what y'all have yourselves worked up about... Or maybe I'm just
the eternal optimist.

I'm making the drive from Nashville, TN to North East, MD for the show, and
I ain't gonna let some overpaid prognosticators put a damper on my weekend!
If any of y'all recall, we had the same forecast for Chevell-abration, and
had three beautiful days of weather instead.

In fact, the early morning overcast helped keep the temps down, and when the
crap burned off later in the day, the sunshine was more than enough to make
everyone break out the sun screen.  Late afternoon showers are just part of
the everyday prediction for this time of the year, at least for those of us
living outside the arid Southwest.  Like Donnie says, those "six-figure
weenies" didn't get it right earlier, I doubt that they are gonna get it
right now, either!  They definitely aren't gonna tell me how to spend my
weekend!  My bags are packed, so is the Chevelle, and I'm out the door
soon's I finish my email.

I'll see you listers with the balls to brave the forecast and break out your
Chevelles at the show... the rest of y'all will just have to wait 'til later
to listen to the great time everyone had, and about all the great Chevelles
that showed up.

Chuck




on 6/19/03 7:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My sentiments exactly!!  I knew these six figure weenies we call weatherman
> (or is that weatherperson these days) could not get it right!!  Get our hopes
> all up to snatch it away.
> 
> In any case.. on June 29... I'm heading to the Western states... CO, WY, SD,
> etc for vacation. NO RAIN!!
> 
> We'll be doing the show anyhow... rain or shine!!
> 
> Donnie Gates
> President
> Maryland Chevelle Club
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevelleabration 2004 Attn: Chuck Hanson

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevelleabration 2004  Attn: Chuck Hanson



She caught me changing out of my sweaty shirt right before the banquet, Mike.  Get your mind outta the gutter!!!

Chuck


on 6/18/03 6:38 PM, Michael Pell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What?!!  I thought this was a family oriented event.  :-))) 

Mike "someone has to ask" P. 

Dwight Fulton wrote: 
>( Shes the one that caught you changing clothes) 
Dwight

Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevelleabration 2004 Attn: Chuck Hanson

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevelleabration 2004  Attn: Chuck Hanson



Already tried that, Dwight.  Being under the tent with so much ambient light doesn't allow the images to be seen.  Great idea, though.  I even checked into the cost of having a smaller version of the Sony-tron like you see at major sporting events brought in, but I'm still trying to recover from that heart attack.  

Glad to hear you had a great time, though.  BTW, watch that Patricia...  and her "suggestions."  Next thing you know, she'll want to hear strip-tease music whenever I change my shirt.  I told her to look the other way!  Honest!

Chuck



on 6/18/03 3:39 PM, Dwight Fulton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Chuck,  My wife ( Shes the one that caught you changing clothes) has a suggestion for CB04:  During the awards ceremony she suggests that you have a slide show or video presentation of the winning cars as you anounce them.  It's impossible to know if the car you voted for won unless you know the owner. Just our .02 

CB03 was great and know 04 will be better. 

Dwight 

72 Elky 

Aces# 5929 

TC#2039 

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Strange Engineering vs. Denny's Driveshafts

[Chuck Hanson]

Great info, Mike... Thanks!  I'll keep the Patterson info on file in case we
need it for HPTV.  We'll be needing a couple of driveshafts next season for
the "Super" Nova, and the "Kingfish" Barracuda.  On the other hand, I've
used both companies (Strange & Denny's) for previous projects, and have been
quite pleased with the quality of the product and the workmanship.  You're
probably right about the price though, Mike.

Chuck



on 6/18/03 12:15 PM, Michael Pell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> You might try Patterson Driveshafts here in Indy.  They are top notch,
> and even have a special ordered balancing machine to spin the shaft at
> 2500 rpm rather than than the typical 500rpm.
> 
> I have a steel shaft with 1350 ujoints, good for 1200hp.  They build
> shafts for some big racers, including pro-mod cars with 2500+ hp.
> 
> And I'll bet they are priced less than the big names you mention.  :-)
> And free shipping, and they gurantee you can't break their welds.
> 
> 1-877-836-5334   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Kent Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> 
>> Looking at either Denny's Nitrous ready 3" steel (?) or Strange
>> Engineering 3" Chrome-Moly driveshaft for my 502/502.  Anyone have
>> any experience with either of these companys ?  Very concerned with
>> quality, as well as the balancing of the driveshaft.
>> 
>> Kent
>> '68 Malibu ZZ502/502
>> ACES #5102
>> CB03 - Champion Men's Rod Toss
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Room available at CB03

[Chuck Hanson]

Bummer, Michael!  I think Clint has the right idea...
Plus, if you've been working so hard lately, you DESERVE a break!  C'mon and
chill with us and enjoy a good ol' laid-back weekend full of cool Chevelles
and good friends! The work will be there still when you get back, and you'll
tackle it with a lot better frame of mind. C'mmonnn...

Chuck





on 6/9/03 7:32 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dang,Michael. I sure hate to hear you will be unable to attend the event.
> Bring your daily driver if you have to.
> Clint Hooper
> LT5 Registry Director
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>> Well, guys, I give up for this year, and am not going to make it to
>> CB03.  :-(
>> I've been working far too many hours/projects, and started somethings a
>> month ago that I can't quite get finished (parts availability believe it
>> or not).
>> Dang Ford 9" brakes.
>> I have a room at the Hampton available if anyone wants it. I'll likely
>> cancel it tomorrow eve (tues eve).
>> Please email asap if you want it.
>> 
>> Hey Chuck, I'll be there next year!  You put on a great show, and I hate
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Roll Call: Chevell-abration '03

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on 5/27/03 1:05 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks,Chuck. That's what I was concerned about. Would you have a problem
> with me bringing some cheap name tags to hand out? 500-1000 tags wouldn't
> cost me all that much? I've got a custom tag of my own to wear.
> Clint Hooper
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>> Clint,
>> If ya want somebody to know who you are, you'll have to fab up yer own
>> nametag...
>> Chuck
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No problem with that.  We tried the nametag thing  a few years back...
turned out to be quite a hassle with all the last-minute changes people have
and don't tell you about.  We ended up handwriting about half of them, which
took somebody off another job that needed to be done.  We just don't have
the people to allocate someone just to do the nametags.  Great idea,
especially if you give 'em the tag and let them fill it out

How's the 'Camino comin'?

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Roll Call: Chevell-abration '03

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on 5/27/03 12:04 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've got a question for you veteran Chevell-abration attendees. Are name
> tags handed out at the event or do we supply our own? I sure don't want to
> miss meeting someone. (yeah,Chuck & Dale,,I'll recognize you two)
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If ya want somebody to know who you are, you'll have to fab up yer own
nametag...

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Custom chassis shop in the D/FW area?

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on 3/31/03 7:25 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm looking for a shop in the D/FW area that can do quality race car
> fabrication work. I've talked to Shahan Race Cars in Little Rock and S&S
> Race Cars in Houston but both are 400 miles away. Am looking for something a
> little closer.
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Clint,
You might want to try Beavis Race cars in Tyler, TX.  I've seen some of
their work, and it's all top-notch.  He used to rent space from Gary Harwood
when Harwood was building street rods/bodies... his was in the same bldg.
Sorry, but no phone # right now.  I'll see if I can dig one up later.

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Pictures to Chevelle World

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Pictures to Chevelle World



Sorry, Clint, my layout guy works with pix only for that section of the book.  We use positives (slides) for the color separations on the car features.
Chuck


on 3/19/03 4:02 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you not accept high-res digital photographs,Chuck?
Clint Hooper
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- Original Message ----- 
From: Chuck Hanson   
Looking forward to seeing your Chevelles, John.  As for pix, std 4x6 glossies work best, shot as a "front 3/4" view.  Just be sure to have them in focus, and don't cut off the front or rear ends.  You'd be amazed at how many pix I get that are like that.  Also, if you can find a clean, uncluttered background, the car "jumps" out of the picture better.  

If the cars are light colored, a dark background (trees, dark bldg) works best, vice versa if they're dark colored.  Also, remember to keep the sun at your back so the photo isn't back-lit.  Follow these fairly simple instructions, John, and you'll have photos of your Pride(s) and Joy that are good enough to blow-up and hang on your wall, let alone the pages of Chevelle World!

Chuck 

Re: [Chevelle-List] Pictures to Chevelle World

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Pictures to Chevelle World



on 3/19/03 1:56 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good question,John. I'm also interested in Chuck's answer.
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- Original Message - 
From: John W. Lonadier, Jr.   
 
Chuck, when sending you pictures of our Chevelle's, to be put in the Mag, are there any specs for the pictures? I would like to send in one of my Chevelle.
 
Thanks,
John L.
ACES #5597
70 SS 454
LS5 CLONE
 

Clint,
I've not installed the Cane unit, although I've held it in my hands...  Looks like a fairly easy-to-install piece, and with current electronics it should be as bullet-proof as anything out there.

I have installed and lived with the Pertronix unit, however, and have had no trouble out of it in over 5 years and 50k miles.  

The added benefit of the built-in rev-limiter is a nice feature for the Crane piece, especially if you feel you've a proclivity for unintentionally extending the rpm range of your engine.  Of course, if a "stock" appearance is important, the Pertronix offers a one-wire hookup for their conversion.   Prices?  Don't know, but I'm sure a call to Jeg's or Summit would get you a quick price comparison.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?



Yep!  Plus, depending on how your Chevelle is optioned out you may also have additional harnesses for the A/C, an AM-FM/tape/stereo, rear defogger, power windows, locks, etc.  No matter, though, Clint, they make repros for all those applications.  And, as stated earlier, they'll custom-manufacture a harness for almost anything you want to add to the electrical system.  Just ask...

Chuck

on 3/19/03 1:44 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the input,Chuck. I've heard a lot of good things about M&H products and that is the route I will eventually go. How many wiring harnesses are in our cars? Is there a underhood harness,dash harness,and rear lighting harness?
Clint Hooper
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- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Hanson   
 
Clint,
Theirs are the only ones I use... certainly not the least expensive, but IMO they are the best.  Correct gauge wire, colors and terminal ends, and great customer service, too.  Plus, if you need something special (like converting to an HEI, or adding an MSD ignition, or electric fans) added to the harness, they will do it and it'll look just like "factory."  

If you're looking for totally original-style harnesses, however, I believe you can buy them for a little less from one of their distributors, than direct.  I know Year One carries them...

Chuck 

Re: [Chevelle-List] Pictures to Chevelle World

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Pictures to Chevelle World



on 3/19/03 1:36 PM, John W. Lonadier, Jr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck, when sending you pictures of our Chevelle's, to be put in the Mag, are there any specs for the pictures? I would like to send in one of my Chevelle.
 
Thanks,
John L.
ACES #5597
70 SS 454
LS5 CLONE
 


Looking forward to seeing your Chevelles, John.  As for pix, std 4x6 glossies work best, shot as a "front 3/4" view.  Just be sure to have them in focus, and don't cut off the front or rear ends.  You'd be amazed at how many pix I get that are like that.  Also, if you can find a clean, uncluttered background, the car "jumps" out of the picture better.  

If the cars are light colored, a dark background (trees, dark bldg) works best, vice versa if they're dark colored.  Also, remember to keep the sun at your back so the photo isn't back-lit.  Follow these fairly simple instructions, John, and you'll have photos of your Pride(s) and Joy that are good enough to blow-up and hang on your wall, let alone the pages of Chevelle World!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical suggestions?



on 3/19/03 11:06 AM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone on here purchased a oem-style harness from M&H? If so,how much do they get for theirs?
Clint Hooper
LT5 Registry Director
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http://www.LT5Registry.net/
'69 El Camino ProTourer  ACES #1650
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale


Clint,
Theirs are the only ones I use... certainly not the least expensive, but IMO they are the best.  Correct gauge wire, colors and terminal ends, and great customer service, too.  Plus, if you need something special (like converting to an HEI, or adding an MSD ignition, or electric fans) added to the harness, they will do it and it'll look just like "factory."  

If you're looking for totally original-style harnesses, however, I believe you can buy them for a little less from one of their distributors, than direct.  I know Year One carries them...

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] test

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on 3/17/03 1:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Stainless Steel brake lines & fuel lines

[Chuck Hanson]

on 3/17/03 11:08 AM, Cecil "Steve" Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Gents,
> I am thinking about using stainless steel brake lines to keep
> things looking good. I heard from one person there is a problem with leaks
> due to sealing being tougher to make happen. Have you experienced anything
> like this? Would I be better off going with factory original type lines?
> 
> What about fuel lines? What's everyone using?
> 
> I am doing a frame-off and I am starting to rebuild the frame while the
> body is off.
> 
> Thanks!  Steve
> 
> 
Steve,
I've used stainless lines on quite a few occasions, and have not had any
major problems.  The ones I did have were related to surface irregularities
on the mating surface between the flare and the male receiver.  If there are
irregularities on the tapered part of the receiver, the stainless is a
harder material than the standard steel lines, and will not conform to the
shape (nicks, scratches, burrs, etc) as readily.  But if you're using all
new lines for the entire project, I don't believe it'll be a problem.

I've used lines from the "Right Stuff Detailing" in Columbus, OH
(800-405-2000), and have been fairly impressed with the fit of the lines and
quality of workmanship.  Plus, they're fairly close to you, so shipping
should be fairly quick.  You can check them out online, too:
http://rightstuffdetailing.com/

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] L79

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] L79



on 3/13/03 2:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck (ACES1): 
What can you tell me about Alan Colvin, Terry Boyce, Robert Genat, R. M.  Clarke, Paul Herd or anyone else who have wrote books about Chevelles and or Chevrolets? Who in your opinion has been the most accurate in their writings? The most inaccurate? What was the biggest surprise you ever had dealing with factory production options? 
 Larry (Z) 

Without pointing fingers, Larry,  I'd say that I'm pretty comfortable using Colvin's "Chevrolet By The Numbers" books as resource material.  I've known Alan for 25 years, helped supply and/or verify some of the information contained in his books, and I believe he's a diligent and accurate researcher.  His methodology is what I consider to be the best of the published authors you've listed, although Boyce's book (s) seem to be fairly accurate. Of course, they lack the in-depth "numbers" info that Colvin's do.  The others, in my opinion, merely regurgitate information that they've "read" somewhere else, and often perpetuate misinformation because they are either too lazy or incapable of doing the proper research to verify information.  That being said, even Colvin's books are occasionally incorrect, but the revisions are updated and included in subsequent press runs.

Surprises with factory options?  I don't know that I understand your question full, Larry, but the biggest surprise is that I'm not surprised when certain options aren't executed at the factory the way they are supposed to be.  Example: I owned a '70 L78 (375hp) SS convertible.  the tack should ahve had a 6500 redline, and came from the factory with a 5500 redline.  Also, the door panels had the '69-style "SS396" emblems on the door panels rather than the "SS" emblems endemic t the '70 Super Sport cars.  The water pump pulley, too, was incorrect... it was a deep groove-type (which the SHP motors all have), but it was a larger diameter and had the incorrect P/N and letter suffix stamped on it.  BTW, I bought the car from the original owner, who verified that none of those items had ever been replaced.  I've had lots of other surprises, too, in the 30-plus years I've been foolin' with Chevelles.  I doubt that there is enough time, space and inclination to list them all here, however.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] L79

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] L79



There were no L79 Chevelles built in '66, at least none that are acknowledged by GM.   And in all the years I've been studying Chevelles I've never seen a documented '66 L79 car... kinda like the "factory" SS427 Chevelles that keep popping up.  Show me the ...paper!

Chuck



on 3/10/03 7:26 AM, Dale McIntosh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Any chance of getting the suffix numbers off the engine?  None of my references show anything but the std. 327/275 in 66.
Dale McIntosh 
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 
67SS/67 Elky 
Dale¹s Place ­ My 67 SS and 67 El Camino 
ChevelleStuff ­ Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles 
Team 67 ­ 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific 
Midwest Chevelles ­ Midwest Chevelle Show Information 
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Dale: 
I know a guy here that has a 66 2 DR post with a L 79. a no option car. 
    Larry (z) 

Re: [Chevelle-List] unsubscribe chevelle-list /ATTN:CRGILLIARD!!!! MUST READ

[Chuck Hanson]

Rocky,
You sure?  Those directions read an awful lot like the ones that came with
my wife's dil...  Oh, wait a  minute.  I didn't read the part about "the
Telstar GS-2 weather satellite."  In fact, the thing that got me going was
"Insert the wiggling pin into the wobbling hole, making sure that it
seated correctly."  I coulda sworn I read those directions somewhere
before...

Chuck




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Horsepower TV

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Horsepower TV



Thanks for watching and your kind words, Dale.  The next money I want to spend on the Impala is for a Granatelli mass air flow sensor.  If one can believe their ads, it, too, should be a very cost effective power add-on. 

The company you're interested in is Pi-Thon Design.  Really cool connectors that even work on steel pipes, rubber hoses, braided lines, and just about anything else cylindrical. I'll see if I can did up some contact info later and post it.

Chuck



on 3/1/03 2:49 PM, Dale McIntosh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


ACES1 - all 

Anyone catch the HPTV show today?  Interesting investment of a throttle body and cold air kit ($300 total) for an 11 hp gain; then another $300 or so for Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust for another 16 hp gain.  A total jump from 177 hp (real hp at the rear wheels) to 204 hp (plus 27 hp) for about $600 or about $23 per. 

To Chuck - that's the type of show that'll pique my interest, thanks! 

At the end of the show there were "hot parts" and one was a billet (?) radiator hose connection with a spanner wrench and I didn't get the name of the company that makes them.  Tried Jeg's site - no luck - and they were listed in the "Hot Parts" section of http://www.horsepowertv.com under today's episode.  Anyone catch who makes them and a web address if available? 

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Calling Chuck Hanson: HPTV Tranny CoolerQuestion

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on 2/27/03 7:09 PM, Brad Waller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This is the email I thought I sent earlier, but I have not seen it show
> up, so here it goes again...
> 
> Chuck, a member on the VetteNet saw the episode recently where you set
> up a self contained tranny cooler and fan (I must have missed that one).
> He asked some questions:
> 
>> Horsepower TV had a product a few weeks ago that was a self
>> contained tranny cooler kit. It had a temp switched fan on
>> it, and I believe it too had a t-stat to allow the tranny
>> fluid to come up to temp. it looked like it was about 8"
>> square and would be a fairly easy install. (The fan was a
>> nice touch, you wouldn't necessarily have to hang the cooler
>> in a direct airflow location.) Would _this_ work as an oil
>> cooler?
> 
> He has a high performance street Corvette that he is doing some work on,
> and I'd love to put the two of you together.  I can send you his email
> address, or I can tell him yours, just let me know your preference!
> 
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Brad,
The cooler you're interested in is manufactured by B&M, and it is
self-contained with an integral fan, activated by a thermal sensor housed in
the cooler.  As for using it as an oil cooler rather than a trans cooler, I
don't see why it wouldn't work just as well in that capacity.

Afterall, it's merely a thermal exchange unit... and I suspect the main
concerns would be matching the size of the unit to the amount of heat that
needs to be dissipated.  B&M has coolers that are available in several
different sizes to accommodate most needs.  Hope this helps...
Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Paging Chuck Hanson

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Paging Chuck Hanson



on 1/29/03 9:24 PM, Clint Hooper at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck,could you email me offline? 
Sorry for the spam,folks.
Clint Hooper
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TX TAGS: USA ZR1
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Clint, you have mail.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List]PAINT CODE QUESTION.

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List]PAINT CODE QUESTION.



on 1/29/03 7:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE COLOR OR THE PAINT CODE 
NUMBER OF THE 70 CHEVELLE THAT WAS IN THE MAY/JUNE
2002 ACES MAG. GREEN WITH ENVY.
THE 70 COLOR CHART DOESN'T SHOW A MIST GREEN.

    THANKS   JERRY
 72 WAGON 

The correct color is Green Mist, Jerry.  Sorry about that... I have to rely on the info provided by the owner for the articles.  Code # is 45.  HTH.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] DC World of Wheels Show

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] DC World of Wheels Show



Herb,
Why are women like that?  I think they say stuff like that just to set us up... knowing how we'll react.  Glad to hear that I'm not the only one with selective attention!  Congrats on the special award

Chuck




on 1/20/03 11:23 AM, Herbert Lumpp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Overall I thought the DC WOW was pretty good.  I've never entered a car in one so it was a learning experience for me.  There were quite a few nice cars there - a lot of them where definitely trailer queens - but they were very well done.  There were also a lot of really nice bikes.  The best part was as Tom said, each MCC member won an award, which was great because each one of them worked very hard getting the cars ready and setting up the displays.  On Sunday I was taken by complete surprise during the "special" awards when they called out my name for the Outstanding Engine in the Truck/Van classes.  After seeing all the chrome and blowers I never imagined my engine could win.  It was a really nice surprise to say the least.
 
The coolest part of the show was leaving.  At the door there were about 75 or more people standing inside and outside the door like a gauntlet and they were all yelling "light 'em up" and at the same time my wife was saying "don't do anything" so naturally as I get into the street just before the car is straight, in goes the clutch, up go the revs, and the next thing you know the Elky's tires are spinning and we're doing a 6000 rpm sideways slide all the way down the street to the stoplight!  What a way to end the show.  :)

cYa-
 
Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino
ACES 3509, MCC 528
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Subject: [Chevelle-List] DC World of Wheels Show

I went to the Carquest World of Wheel Show in Washington, DC this afternoon. It was a disappointing show, except for the Chevelles. There were eight fine-looking cars representing the Maryland Chevelle Club, including Herb and Tom from this list, and a couple of other Chevelles sprinkled around the floor. The Chevelles saved this show, and my afternoon!
 
Mike

Re: [Chevelle-List] Thrust bearing failure (update)

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Thrust bearing failure (update)



on 1/9/03 11:40 PM, Bill Vander Werf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck, 

 

I downloaded the pdf file from the Clevite site that you mentioned. One thing that struck me was a paragraph about the grinding marks left on the thrust face after the crank is ground. I copied it here: 

 

SURFACE FINISH 

Crankshaft thrust faces are difficult to grind because they are done using the side of the grinding wheel. Grinding marks left on the crankshaft face produce a visual swirl or sunburst pattern with scratches sometimes crisscrossing one another in a crosshatch pattern similar to hone marks on a cylinder wall. If these grinding marks are not completely removed by polishing, they will remove the oil film from the surface of the thrust bearing much like multiple windshield wiper blades. A properly finished crankshaft thrust face should only have very fine polishing marks that go around the thrust surface in a circumferential pattern. 

 

I remember asking the guys at both machine shops I dealt with about the pattern on the thrust face the first time I pulled the engine out. Everyone said it was no problem, they all get put together that way. I took them at their wordŠŠ.WRONG. 

 

I polished the marks off the thrust face with 600 grit followed by 1200 grit. It took me about an hour but I got it looking beautiful. I put the motor together and it doesn¹t look like it is grinding the bearing anymore. I still had a slight amount of residue in the oil filter after running the car but 2 filters later there is virtually nothing polluting the oil. I¹m sure there was a good amount of ³gold dust² hiding in the motor that needed to be cleansed. I just changed the oil again to be sure. 

 

You can bet that I will never build another motor without paying particularly close attention to the thrust face of the crank. I hope sharing my experience here prevents someone else from having the same problem I did. 

 

I printed copies of the Clevite tech article for both machine shops I deal with and I highlighted the Surface Finish paragraph. 

 

Thanks to everyone who took the time to help. This is a great forum with an awesome knowledge base. 

 

I¹m going racing. I believe the problem is finally solved. 

 

Bill Vander Werf 

 
Glad to hear the problem is apparently solved.  I'd still keep an eye on things, Bill, at least until you can gain some confidence in the corrective action.  Like I said, sometimes even the most knowledgeable people can overlook something or make a mistake.  Your experience gives us all something to be aware of next time we screw an engine together.  Good luck with your racing season!

Chuck
 

 

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Bill,
Sorry to hear you're still having problems with the thrust bearing on your engine.  It's a real stumper, I know.  One thing that comes to  mind is calling the tech line for the manufacturer of your bearings.  They have probably come up against this problem in the past and may be able to shed some light on the problem.  Sometimes even the most astute engine builders and/or machinists can overlook something or have never encountered a problem such as yours.  When we talked about your engine a while back I ran over all the scenarios in my mind, and it seemed like you'd already tried to correct all the suspected problem areas. 

I checked the online tech site for Clevite bearings (Dana Corp), and there's a lot of info on how to troubleshoot your problem.  Rather than cut and paste that info, here's where to go:   http://engineparts.com/Motorhead/techstuff/bulletins/TB2043.pdf

Good luck, Bill.  If that doesn't work, a phone call to their tech line and a conversation with a real person may be the only answer.  Sorry I don't have their tech line # in front of me right now.  If you don't find it yourself, holler at me on the ACES Hotline and I'll try to come up with it for you.

Chuck 

Re: [Chevelle-List] 780 Holley Carb ID

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] 780 Holley Carb ID



on 1/7/03 5:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a original 780 Holley Carb that I am trying to see what car (Chevellle) it could have come off of 

The holley numbers are:

          3878261-EH
          3310 084

Can anyone please tell me if this carb is really off a chevelle, other?

Thanks

Donnie



Your carb may or may not have ever resided on a Chevelle, Donnie.  It's original application was for a '65 Z16  (3878261-EH), although the production date  signifies it was built in '70 (0='70; 8=Month/August; 4=week of month), making it a service replacement carb.  

Chevy apparently sold a boatload of those carbs, as I've seen them in fairly prolific numbers at swap meets and even in the classifieds (Hemmings, etc).  Obviously, one might tend to think that since its original application was for a Z16 that it carries considerable intrinsic value.  That's not necessarily so, however, since people restoring their Z16s are eminently more interested in having the correctly dated carb (along with the right "numbers) bolted to their intake.  It's still a cool carb, Donnie, but probably doesn't have much more innate value than a standard "List 3310" carb from Holley.  Hope that answers your question, Donnie.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Thrust bearing failure

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Thrust bearing failure



on 12/30/02 7:58 AM, Bill Vander Werf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It¹s an automatic (TH400). I¹ve tried 3 different torque converters and had the trans rebuilt a second time. I checked to make sure the driveshaft wasn¹t too long and causing a bind. After the last bearing went out I took the trans to JW Performance Transmissions to have them check it out. They ran it on their test equipment and it checked out good. They tested the torque converter, an ATI unit, and it checked out good too. As a matter of fact they said the ATI converter was an excellent piece of equipment. 

 

Although the crank and block check out good I¹ve lost all faith in them at this point. The crank and block have been looked at by two different machine shops. I had the crank Magnafluxed a second time for good measure. The flex plate is a B&M unit. The harmonic balancer is a Fluidamper and they were both balanced with the rotating assembly. 

 

I don¹t have a plan B at this time except to start over with a different block and crank. I¹m sure there is an answer. It¹s probably a simple one. I just want to go racing and my patience has been used up. I haven¹t driven this car more than maybe 30 miles since the first bearing episode back in May. When everything checks out good but continues to be a problem what else can you do? 

 

 

Bill Vander Werf 

 

 

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    If it's only eating up the rear thrust bearing face & you are sure the crank, rods, etc are in good condition, then I'd say it HAS to be a flywheel/clutch-Flexplate/Converter or trans problem.  Is it an automatic or standard? 
Maybe a VERY slim chance of a Harmonic Balancer problem. I doubt it but I've heard they can do strange things when they get out of balance. 
Sorry I can't help more but that's all that I can think of. 
Do you have access to an engine stand that you can run the engine without the trans installed? 
Don 


Bill,
Sorry to hear you're still having problems with the thrust bearing on your engine.  It's a real stumper, I know.  One thing that comes to  mind is calling the tech line for the manufacturer of your bearings.  They have probably come up against this problem in the past and may be able to shed some light on the problem.  Sometimes even the most astute engine builders and/or machinists can overlook something or have never encountered a problem such as yours.  When we talked about your engine a while back I ran over all the scenarios in my mind, and it seemed like you'd already tried to correct all the suspected problem areas. 

I checked the online tech site for Clevite bearings (Dana Corp), and there's a lot of info on how to troubleshoot your problem.  Rather than cut and paste that info, here's where to go:   http://engineparts.com/Motorhead/techstuff/bulletins/TB2043.pdf

Good luck, Bill.  If that doesn't work, a phone call to their tech line and a conversation with a real person may be the only answer.  Sorry I don't have their tech line # in front of me right now.  If you don't find it yourself, holler at me on the ACES Hotline and I'll try to come up with it for you.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] More cowl tag decode

[Chuck Hanson]

on 12/19/02 8:47 AM, Steve Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Chuck Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> on 12/18/02 12:07 PM, Steve Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 03A 2394
>>> ST66-13867 KAN   841BODY
>>> TR798-A  K-1PAINT
>>> EXD  2KW  4F  5Y
>>> 
>>> - What is option 2W?
>> 
>> Steve,
>> The interior/seat codes are for a vinyl-covered, white w/black trim bench
>> seat
>> 
>> Yes, the "1" verifies a white convertible top, over "K" Artesian Turquoise
>> bottom
> 
> Thank you for confirming those.
> 
>> The "W" in the second accessory group is not a code I'm familiar with... are
>> you certain it's not a different letter?  Perhaps a "M"?  In that case it
>> would verify a Powerglide transmission, which would seem appropriate for a
>> car equipped with power windows, A/C, power top, and the other "luxury"
>> options found on your car.  Sounds like a beauty, Steve!
> 
> Yes, I'm fairly certain it's a W.  It's difficult to check at the moment,
> as the car is in storage.  The car is absolutely loaded with options:
> Power steering
> Tilt steering wheel
> Power bench seat
> Power brakes
> Power windows
> Power top
> Air conditioning
> Remote driver's side mirror
> ...
> 
> I'm thinking the W might refer to the power seat...
> 
> I'd love to find the build sheet, but the seats had been reupholstered
> before I got the car, and it's probably long gone. :(
> 
> This is the only picture I have of it online:
> http://www.playfulpig.com/picts/flamingoes-car.jpg
> (With a parade of flamingoes in front of it. ;-)
> I'm currently working on the interior (hard to do when it's in storage ;-),
> and after I get done, I'll put up more pics.
> 
> 
> ~Steve
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My info indicates the power seat would be an "F" in the first accy group.
Tilt wheel would be indicated by a "Z" in the second group.

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] More cowl tag decode

[Chuck Hanson]

on 12/18/02 12:07 PM, Steve Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I have a '66 Chevelle SS396 convertible.  There's a couple of things
> on the cowl tag that I haven't been able to figure out yet.  Here's
> the tag:
> 
> 03A 2394
> ST66-13867 KAN   841BODY
> TR798-A  K-1PAINT
> EXD  2KW  4F  5Y
> 
> 
> The parts I don't yet get are:
> - In 798-A, I believe the 798 part is black/white trim, and the A is the
> type of seat.  I'd like to confirm that, and what type of seat "A"
> refers to.
> 
> - In K-1, does the "1" mean a white top?
> 
> - What is option 2W?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
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Steve,
The interior/seat codes are for a vinyl-covered, white w/black trim bench
seat

Yes, the "1" verifies a white convertible top, over "K" Artesian Turquoise
bottom

The "W" in the second accessory group is not a code I'm familiar with... are
you certain it's not a different letter?  Perhaps a "M"?  In that case it
would verify a Powerglide transmission, which would seem appropriate for a
car equipped with power windows, A/C, power top, and the other "luxury"
options found on your car.  Sounds like a beauty, Steve!

Chuck



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Re: [Chevelle-List] 1968 SS wheel well moldings?

[Chuck Hanson]

on 12/18/02 1:33 PM, John Nasta at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The repros may be anodized aluminum. I was told that the OEM ones are
> stainless steel. When I get the OE ones in here, I never take them out of
> the GM shrink-wrap, so I never really get a good look at them.
> 
> John Nasta
> 
> 
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> I thought all were  anodized aluminum? Both the original and repro...
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> 
>> The OEM wheel well moldings are stainless steel. The repros are plated
> tin.
>> They are definitely softer than the OEM moldings. No body seems to be
>> repro-ing short wheel moldings for the 68 SS.
>> 
>> John Nasta
>> 
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>> 
>> ON my 68 the wheel well mldgs are soft, kinda like butter, i'll look at
> them
>> again and see what company they are from, "made in china" i could see
> where
>> one number would fit front or  back the way you can form them to fit
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Both OE and repros are anodized aluminum.  The quality of the repros leaves
something to be desired, however.  I certainly prefer to use original GM
whenever possible, even though the cost is substantially higher and they're
more difficult to locate. BTW, the '68 SS396 did not have w/o moldings
installed at the factory.

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers



on 12/16/02 9:16 AM, John Nasta at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not so sure about that. I just looked at some crash sheets for my 1968 Olds and there are tons of six-digit part numbers that couldn't possibly be dealer-installed items (like the gaskets between the fenders & the fender extensions, and various sheet metal pieces). There are tons of parts that have 6-digit numbers. Maybe that rule only applies to Chevy. It's certainly not a GM thing. 

 

John Nasta 

 

 

 

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Hey chuck, does the 6 digit rule apply to all part #'s or just the later years? 
 
Yes, as a general rule they are.  Not to say there aren't exceptions...

Chuck 


Perhaps it applies only to the accessories?  I just re-checked my dealer accessories parts lists ('46-'78), and they all have six digit part numbers.  The numbering system doesn't seem to follow any pattern that I can determine either... for instance a rear bumper guard for a '78 Nova carries part number 347564, while  a '78 full-sized Chevy has  371979 and a '69 full-sized Chevy rear guard is listed as 993505.   I guess, then, that the possibility of the "99" prefix meaning a "dealer installed accessory" isn't 100% valid.

Checked my "regular" parts manuals, and yes, there are quite a few 6-digit part numbers in there.

As I said before, there are likely exceptions.  Perhaps there's a GM parts counterman on the list who can shed some light on this?  Rich... any more thoughts on the numbering system beyond what you've already shared with us?

Chuck 

Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers



on 12/16/02 8:55 AM, Richard Milkiewicz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey chuck, does the 6 digit rule apply to all part #'s or just the later years?  The 99 may mean dealer installed. But it's not the rule for all part #'s. Now I'm talking from what I know from work.  This is how it works at Hydra-matic. Say you have a part # 8624124.
The 86 means Hydra-matic, the 24 is model,(400 trans) and 124 is the description. (clutch plate) Now this same part # has been used during the full run of the THM400. So it does not give the year just the model. Dealer installed options probably are different. They need to know year, model and what it is.
Rich
"66 Malibu
ACES # 5066
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on 12/14/02 9:20 AM, NoNeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey chuck, does the 6 digit rule apply to all part #'s or just the later years? That would be a helpful piece of info to have in the back of my little brain!
Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com    
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on 12/13/02 10:50 PM, Dwight Fulton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know of a way to figure out what year and model a couple of sport mirrors are from?  They have GM part# of 995592 & 994929.

Thanks

Dwight

Dwight, 
The 995592 mirror is a: "Mirror, outside rearview, sport, remote, L/H, '77 A-body"
The 994929 mirror is a: "Mirror, outside rearview, sport, manual, R/H '76-8 F-body"

The six digit part numbers indicate these were dealer-installed pieces, not installed at the factory.  Hope this helps.

Chuck 


Yes, as a general rule they are.  Not to say there aren't exceptions...

Chuck 


Thanks for the insight into the GM parts numbering system, Rich.  I knew there was a method to their madness... Do you think it'd be correct to assume the "99" prefix is assigned to dealer installed items?  Your description of the part number breakdown certainly makes sense to me...

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers



on 12/14/02 9:20 AM, NoNeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey chuck, does the 6 digit rule apply to all part #'s or just the later years? That would be a helpful piece of info to have in the back of my little brain!
Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com  
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on 12/13/02 10:50 PM, Dwight Fulton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know of a way to figure out what year and model a couple of sport mirrors are from?  They have GM part# of 995592 & 994929.

Thanks

Dwight

Dwight, 
The 995592 mirror is a: "Mirror, outside rearview, sport, remote, L/H, '77 A-body"
The 994929 mirror is a: "Mirror, outside rearview, sport, manual, R/H '76-8 F-body"

The six digit part numbers indicate these were dealer-installed pieces, not installed at the factory.  Hope this helps.

Chuck 


Yes, as a general rule they are.  Not to say there aren't exceptions...

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] GM Part Numbers



on 12/13/02 10:50 PM, Dwight Fulton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know of a way to figure out what year and model a couple of sport mirrors are from?  They have GM part# of 995592 & 994929.
 
Thanks
 
Dwight

Dwight, 
The 995592 mirror is a: "Mirror, outside rearview, sport, remote, L/H, '77 A-body"
The 994929 mirror is a: "Mirror, outside rearview, sport, manual, R/H '76-8 F-body"

The six digit part numbers indicate these were dealer-installed pieces, not installed at the factory.  Hope this helps.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Brake problems part 3 (Darrell)

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Brake problems part 3 (Darrell)



on 12/13/02 12:59 PM, aztechsteel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would suspect the pushrod operating the master cylinder is too long.  That would explain why the calipers didn¹t retract initially, causing them to fry.  It would also explain low flow (or low volume), since the piston in the master cyl. is already partially extended, you don¹t get full stroke, when the brake pedal is applied. 

 

JOE BANKS 

AZTECH TOOL CO. 

AZTECH MOLD & DIE STEEL 

602-257-2300 

 

 

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Did you bench bleed the master before you put it in the car? 

 

Brian Zack 
'70 Chevelle Malibu
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505.761.9700  fax 505.761.4222. 

 

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Thanks for your input.
The car was originally driving and braking but the disc brakes were dragging and she locked up. (really cooked them)
Upon inspection it appeared that the driver side had noticable uneven wear  which made me think the caliper was not engaging or releasing properly. I replaced the calipers on both sides including the rubber brake lines and could get very liitle fluid to dribble out. Then I figured I would start working from the top. MC gasket was totally deforemed, so we definitley had some contamination going on up there.
Replaced MC but still no fluid. Cant test Proportioning valve because line is turning with the wrench. and dont have lines yet. Dont know of any changes to the pedal and ordered MC for the car (70 Chevelle SS 396) which when compared, appears correct.
Will replace proportioning valve this weekend and see where that leads me ( Man this little jewel is expensive, dont ever throw one away!)
Will keep everyone updated as more problems occur...Hope to post one last time that she is braking like a champ.

Thx
Ed

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I'm popping in late here and may have missed a significant part of the problem definition, but when the master cylinder was replaced are you 1) sure it is the correct MC for your booster or pedal configuration? and 2) was the brake pedal pivot changed or adjusted in any way?   I'm thinking maybe you're not displacing the fluid sufficiently.  Might not be an obstruction at all. 




Good call on the "too long rod, " Joe.  I had a similar lockup on my '66's front brakes right after converting them to discs.  Shortened the rod a tad at the turnbuckle, and the problem went away.   I also agree that may be the cause of diminished fluid flow, and once properly adjusted the piston on the master can be extended to full travel and move an appropriate amount of fluid.

Of course, one way to be certain there are no blockages in the lines is to disconnect them and individually blow them out with compressed air.  Good luck getting your brakes operating properly.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Bristol Bash 2002

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Bristol Bash 2002



on 10/5/02 12:22 AM, Herbert Lumpp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Chuck,
 
Your description of the Bash makes me even more excited that I'm going!  Unfortunately I won't be meeting you in Chattanooga since I'm North of Bristol (about 5-6 hours).
 
I hope to get on the Dyno and see what my 454 is putting to the ground.  I signed up for the Muscle on the Mountain drag race and the car show.  What do I need to do or who do I see about parking with ACES?
 
I'm really looking forward to this road trip - I'll see you there!

cYa-
 
Herb 
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Bristol Bash 2002

Hey Herb, I'm going!  In fact, on Friday the 18th, the Peach State Chevelles, Heart of Dixie Chevelle Club and Mid-South Chevelle Club will be converging at the Chickamauga Marina in Chattanooga, and from there we're going to take in the collection of ACES Member Kayo Erwin.  Besides his passion for Chevelles (he brought a PAIR of Z16s to Chevell-abration '99!), he also collects other low-mileage, original musclecars... mostly Chevys, but some really cool "off-brands" as well.  After spending a few hours there, we'll make the trek north on secondary roads so we can take a slower pace and enjoy the fall colors in the Smoky Mountains.  The amount of daylight left will probably determine whether we take I-81 the rest of the way to Bristol, or jsut stay on secondary roads from Knoxville on.

Naturally, we welcome anyone who's interested in making the trip with us.  For more details, call me on the ACES Hotline (615) 773-ACES, and I'll be glad to fax/forward directions to the marina.  

I went to the Bash last year, and it was a great time.  Lots to do and see, and they even had a portable Dynojet that you could strap your ride to and get some real performance/horsepower figures.  It wasn't free, but if I remember, the cost was very affordable.  Also, it's a very family-oriented event, and Year One even brings in a portable, inflatable playground for the kids.  Bristol Motor Speedway is an incredible facility nestled between a couple of mountains, and the weather that time of the year is very tolerable.  I really enjoyed meeting many of the heroes of hotrodding, and collected plenty of autographs.

I'll look for you and your yellow El Camino, Herb.  Oh, I almost forgot, I've also arranged for a special Chevelle-only parking area on the show field for ACES Members.  Hope to see y'all at the Bash, if not sooner in Chattanooga!

Chuck 


As far as I know, Herb, just show up at the car show area and tell 'em you're an ACES Member.  The ACES decal on your El Camino (you DO have one, right?) and your Member card will go a long ways towards confirming your status as an ACES Member. Any difficulty, come see me or Year One's Pat Staton.  He's my contact there.  Looking forward to seeing you and your El Camino again, Herb.  I checked it out pretty good at the Maryland Regional, but didn't see much of you...

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Bristol Bash 2002

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Bristol Bash 2002



on 10/4/02 6:58 PM, Herbert Lumpp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I guess since there were no responses that nobody from the list is going to Bristol?

cYa-
 
Herb Lumpp
1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9"
ACES 3509, MCC 528
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From: Herbert Lumpp   
To: Chevelle List   
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:11 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Bristol Bash 2002

Is anyone planning to attend the Bristol Bash 2002?  I'm pretty sure I'm going...
 
http://www.yearone.com/seasonal/bash2002/eventinfo.htm

 


Hey Herb, I'm going!  In fact, on Friday the 18th, the Peach State Chevelles, Heart of Dixie Chevelle Club and Mid-South Chevelle Club will be converging at the Chickamauga Marina in Chattanooga, and from there we're going to take in the collection of ACES Member Kayo Erwin.  Besides his passion for Chevelles (he brought a PAIR of Z16s to Chevell-abration '99!), he also collects other low-mileage, original musclecars... mostly Chevys, but some really cool "off-brands" as well.  After spending a few hours there, we'll make the trek north on secondary roads so we can take a slower pace and enjoy the fall colors in the Smoky Mountains.  The amount of daylight left will probably determine whether we take I-81 the rest of the way to Bristol, or jsut stay on secondary roads from Knoxville on.

Naturally, we welcome anyone who's interested in making the trip with us.  For more details, call me on the ACES Hotline (615) 773-ACES, and I'll be glad to fax/forward directions to the marina.  

I went to the Bash last year, and it was a great time.  Lots to do and see, and they even had a portable Dynojet that you could strap your ride to and get some real performance/horsepower figures.  It wasn't free, but if I remember, the cost was very affordable.  Also, it's a very family-oriented event, and Year One even brings in a portable, inflatable playground for the kids.  Bristol Motor Speedway is an incredible facility nestled between a couple of mountains, and the weather that time of the year is very tolerable.  I really enjoyed meeting many of the heroes of hotrodding, and collected plenty of autographs.

I'll look for you and your yellow El Camino, Herb.  Oh, I almost forgot, I've also arranged for a special Chevelle-only parking area on the show field for ACES Members.  Hope to see y'all at the Bash, if not sooner in Chattanooga!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Tail shaft numbers

[Chuck Hanson]

on 10/1/02 11:33 AM, Craig A. Ellis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Has anybody got their number books handy? There is a tailshaft for a Muncie
> on Ebay at the moment and the seller is in my neighborhood. He says it is a
> 1970 vintage. I've got a 70 but the tailshaft accidentally got swapped out
> with one from a '65 Vette many years ago when it was in for a rebuild. The
> tailshaft that came with the car is long gone (no one cared about such
> things back then) but this one might be a nice number matching part for me.
> The number is 3857584. Can anyone look it up and tell me if it's a 1970?
> Also, how much should these cost?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Craig Ellis
> 
The "584" extension housing was used on all '70-vintage Muncie four-speeds
except the M22, when used in Chevelles.  The M22 installed in Chevelles
utilized a large output shaft, and an appropriately different housing:
casting #3978764.  Cost?  Depends on location, how badly you want it, and
how badly the seller want to past with his "treasure."  I'd say between
$25-$50 would be the going price.  Hard to say with all the "idiots" bidding
on ebay, though.  Price could get unrealistic...

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] 67 Cowl Tag Help

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on 8/14/02 7:18 PM, 396guy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Donnie,
> 
> Wish I knew.  I'm finding more strange numbers on '67 trim tags and it
> doesn't seem to be plant specific.  I saw two '67s at the ACES/MidAmerica
> show built at the Kansas plant with numbers beside the dates.  I found
> another with a "BF" location and can't tell if it's Baltimore or Flint but
> it has a six digit number below the paint code as well. See
> http://www.team67.com/information/oddities.htm.  If anyone knows if these
> are plant codes, Fisher codes, etc., I'd like to know as well.
> 
> Dale McIntosh
> ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> 67 SS/67 Elky
> http://www.dalesplace.com
> http://www.team67.com
> http://www.midwestchevelles.com
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 6:39 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [Chevelle-List] 67 Cowl Tag Help
>> 
>> 
>> I'm trying to decode my 67 Chevelle Cowl tag..  cant find
>> what the 455,
>> 11 and 101496 mean need a little help
>> 
>> 
>> 06B 455 11
>> ST  67  13617   BAL 36063   Body
>> TR  782 SS  Paint
>> 101496
>> 
>> Production Time (Month/Week) - 06B
>> 455 ??
>> 11 ??
>> Model Year - 1967
>> Division - 1
>> Series Number Body Style - 136717 (Malibu, HT, 2 Dr Coupe)
>> Assembly Plant - BAL (Baltimore, Maryland)
>> Unit Number - 36063
>> Trim Color - 782 (Medium Gold Roncina Cloth, Medium Gold
>> Imitation Leather,
>> Bench Seat)
>> Upper Color - S (Sierra Fawn)
>> Lower Color - S (Sierra Fawn)
>> 101496 ??
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Donnie
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Dale/Donnie,
The numbers in question are most likely Fisher body manifest numbers... I've
seen them before and they tie in to numbers found on the build sheet/body
broadcast sheet.  As for the "BF" found on the cowl tag, that was the plant
designation for the Fremont, California assembly plant, and was used from
late '65 through '69.  Hope this helps...

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



on 7/31/02 7:22 AM, 396guy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wasn't that one of the two Terry brought to CB a couple of years ago?  That one and the "Dan Blocker" Z-16?
 
Dale McIntosh 
ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 
67 SS/67 Elky 
http://www.dalesplace.com   
http://www.team67.com   
http://www.midwestchevelles.com   
 As for the Z-16 proto, Floyd sold it a while back, and it's now in the possession of Terry Gunter down in Atlanta.  Lotsa "experimental" and early production trim pieces on that one! Cool car... even cooler than other Z-16s because of its "early" build status.  Unfortunately, it's not in the museum anymore so seeing it in person is not as "easy" as it was a few years ago.

Chuck 


Nope,  Terry only brought the yellow "Dan Blocker" car.  He hadn't purchased Floyd's car at that point.  Kayo Erwin brought a pair of Z-16s to CB that year.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Hey Chuck - CW coverage of CB02

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Hey Chuck - CW coverage of CB02



on 7/31/02 2:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck: 
I'll see ya the 17-18 Th. of Aug. 
    Larry (z) 

Make sure you bring Craig Nelson with ya again, Larry.   I need to shoot his gorgeous L79 car for a feature in Chevelle World!!!  It'll be great to see y'all again.  Sorry I couldn't make it for the Oregon show, but heard plenty about it and got some pix to run in the next issue of CW. 

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Hey Chuck - CW coverage of CB02

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Hey Chuck - CW coverage of CB02



on 7/30/02 10:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 7/30/2002 11:10:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Chuck,
   If you need a donor car on HP TV to install a crate motor and 5
speed and other cool stuff, I'll be willing to loan ya my 69 ;)



I got one for ya Chuck.  How about a nice MOPAR build up ;-).  I have the perect donor car for that :-D

Tom 

Sorry, all the Chevy stuff goes on my cars!!!  Mopar stuff?  Well, all I can say is we're planning on building a "big" Mopar engine with the folks from Indy Cylinder Heads, and we're currently looking for a suitable "B" or "E" body that we can purchase and bolt in to.  That'll lead us to another phase of the buildup that includes back-halving the car to hook up all the power we anticipate cranking out of that engine.  Lotsa cool stuff coming up in the '03 season!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



on 7/30/02 11:54 PM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck 
 
  Well that sure sounds like the same car.  And yes I do believe the article came from a copy of Chevy High Performance, not sure on the date though (still have not found the article).  But you covered it rather well.  It's neat to hear that you have actually looked at the car and the build sheet.  From the photo in the article it would be difficult to distinguish a real vs. fake buildsheet.  And as you say "Just because something appears in print, it isn't automatically gospel".  
 
Having said that,  I will add that there is more to the story on the fiberglass cowl hood.  This same gentleman from Texas was able to locate the manufacturer of the special hood.  Apparently the company was/is still in business, and in fact still had a number of these hoods in storage.   He purchased the last 3 (?) hoods that they had.  
 
Now, about the LS6 w/aluminum head option.  Once again, I am going to use my "encyclopedia of car facts/fiction" and say that I recall a letter that was written to a magazine wanting to know what the engine code was that was stamped on his block.  The response was something to the effect of "Your not going to believe this, but we looked up that code and it deciphers out as an LS6 w/aluminum heads !  We were not aware that engine even existed."  Anyone care to look up the engine codes ?
 
Kent
'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :)
ACES #5102
 
 
 
 


You don't happen to recall the engine code for this application, do you, Kent?  After researching my sources I'm unable to come up with any codes that indicate an LS6 w/aluminum heads.  I did, however, come up with: CKP=396/375, alum heads w/TH400; CKT=396/375, alum heads w/4spd; CKU=396/375, alum heads w/HD clutch

Interestingly, one of my research sources includes all the suffix codes for engines built at the Tonawanda engine assembly plant and included in the list were suffixes for the '71 Chevelle LS-6, which most Chevelle enthusiasts agree was never produced.  The codes are: CPZ for 4spd applications, and CPY for TH400 applications.  According to this information, there were four CPZ engines built and ten CPY engines built.  

Were they ever installed in actual production cars?  That's a point of considerable conjecture on both sides of the table.  I don't think they were... It's my feeling that if there were potentially fourteen Chevelles built with this engine, certainly one of them would have withstood the ravages of time and surfaced by now.  But, with evidence that at least the engines were produced, there may still be a remote chance that one eventually may see the light of day.  

Of course, the much-discussed Z-16 convertible may have been built, too.  But to this point there's not even one acceptable shred of evidence to substantiate its existence.  And the debate continues to this day...

Interesting point you make about the hood. When I discussed it with the owner of the car in Lubbock, he stated that it was the only one he knew of, and hadn't had any success tracking down the manufacturer.   Apparently that situation has changed since my conversation with him.  Where did your info come from, and who can I contact to find out more about these fiberglass CI hoods?  With the quality that went into them, I felt like they may have been an engineering feasibility study, and were constructed by some Detroit-based proto shop for GM/Chevrolet.  If I recall, the hood would even accept the stainless moulding that is attached to the edge of the hood nearest the windshield. This is usually something that most aftermarket hood manufacturers don't concern themselves with.  They would, however, if it was part of the engineering spec given to them by GM.  Again, these are just my personal observations, and not hard facts.  

I'd love to have one of those hoods... so I could install it on my '70 L89 convertible when/if I ever come across one!!!  Surely there's gotta be one stuck out there in a barn somewhere!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



on 7/30/02 7:03 PM, 396guy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>  And, I believe that among the Chevelle cognoscente ...
 
Whoa, Chuck!  "Cognoscente"?  You been reading Webster's again? :*)  Wow!
 
Speaking of things in print...the Year One (spring 98) catalog I have shows SS427 flags for 66/67 Chevelles but state, "427's weren't originally factory-installed in '66 models but it's a common swap.  For this reason, we're including these emblems here." 
 
Concerning the Z-16's they state that the prototype was built in Baltimore on a hardtop chassis and the other 200 (and I quote "all Z-16s were hardtops") were assembled in Kansas City using the convertible boxed frame.
 
Four years ago at least, the "Tech Car" prototype was owned by and on display at the, then new, Floyd Garrett.
 
Dale



Ha!  Made ya reach for the dictionary on that one, huh, Dale?  I figger since you're one of 'em, now you know what you are!  

I agree with Year One... the 427 is a fairly "common swap" into '66-7 Chevelles.  But emblems alone do not make the car!  As for the Z-16 proto, Floyd sold it a while back, and it's now in the possession of Terry Gunter down in Atlanta.  Lotsa "experimental" and early production trim pieces on that one! Cool car... even cooler than other Z-16s because of its "early" build status.  Unfortunately, it's not in the museum anymore so seeing it in person is not as "easy" as it was a few years ago.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Hey Chuck - CW coverage of CB02

[Chuck Hanson]

on 7/30/02 5:58 PM, 396guy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> When's the coverage of CB02 going to appear?  Nov/Dec issue?
> 
> Dale McIntosh
> ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
> 67 SS/67 Elky
> http://www.dalesplace.com
> http://www.team67.com
> http://www.midwestchevelles.com
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Hey Dale,
Check out my earlier post... it's in the next issue that'll fall in your
mailbox (July/Aug issue).  Traveling for the summer is just about over and
we're getting ready for another season of studio work on HPTV.  The last two
road trips for me this summer will be to the ACES Mid-America Regional in
Kansas City (Aug 9-11) and the following weekend (Aug 17-18)I'll be at the
ACES Northwest Regional in Seattle, WA.  Hope to see many of y'all at these
great events.  Oh, and if you're NOT an ACES Member, don't worry... all ACES
Regional events are open to any and all Chevelles and enthusiasts.  Our
Chevell-abration is the only one restricted to ACES Members and '64-'72
Chevelles.

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



on 7/30/02 12:43 PM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have an article that was written in one of the mags that I received (years ago), that tells the story of a gentleman in Texas (I believe) that has in his possession a '70 Chevelle convertible LS6 w/aluminum heads.  There was a picture of the car sitting in a large pole barn/garage.  If my memory serves me correctly, it was  black w/black top.  There was also a picture of the build sheet which clearly showed LS6 w/aluminum head...AND...the car came from the factory with a fiberglass cowl induction hood.  It is also listed on the bottom of the build sheet.   
 
 
Kent
'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :)
ACES #5102

Just because something appears in print, it isn't automatically gospel I know, because I've made many mistakes over the past 25 years while penning various articles for magazines.  However, I've always been open anyone that could shed new light on a subject and broaden my scope of knowledge.

Chevy High Performance had a brief article in it a few years back about the L89/LS6 convertible Chevelle from TX.  I assume it's the same one being discussed here.  It caused quite a controversy among the readers, with arguments going both ways.  

A few years prior to it appearing in the magazine, however, I personally inspected the car and the "build sheet" while on a business trip to Lubbock, TX.  To the trained eye, the build sheet is laughable... not even close.  All the fonts are wrong, it was obviously a counterfeit, and not a good one at that.  

A couple of years after the magazine article the car was sold at a Barrett-Jackson auction to a gentleman from Mustang, OK.  The reason I know this is because after purchasing the Chevelle he asked me to help authenticate the car, which I agreed to.  He sent me a copy of the same "build sheet" that I'd seen years earlier, and I told him based on that questionable piece of documentation I was unable to confirm the authenticity of the Chevelle.  He called me a few weeks later to let me know he'd been able to get his money back.  At the present time, it is unknown what the status of the car is or where it's located.

Still, it was a neat car and a great "what if Chevrolet decided to build one" exercise.  The coolest thing about the car, at least to me, was the functional, fiberglass cowl induction hood.  It had all the right underbracing and sealing areas, and looked to me like a regular steel CI hood, except the thing was all fiberglass.  The owner of the Chevelle was unable to confirm whether it may have been a GM prototype that got out of the engineering dept, or if some aftermarket company may have produced it.  At any rate, I've never seen another like it.  

The other interesting car that he had parked in the same building was a black '66 SS with 427 fender flags and SS427 grill/cove emblems on it... purported to be a "factory-produced" car.  It, too, was somewhat suspect as there was no paperwork confirming that fact. I've searched long and hard in my quest for Chevelle knowledge over the past 30 years, to find confirmation that some "factory" 427 Chevelles were produced in '66-7, but have yet to see one stitch of evidence to support that proposition.  And, I believe that among the Chevelle cognoscente, that seems to be the prevailing line of thought.  It, too, was a cool car with a healthy 427 and a rare GM-produced underhood cowl-plenum air cleaner.

So, at least that's my read on a couple of Chevelles that are unique and over time have become somewhat mythical... but ultimately, not verifiable.  If anyone knows any more info on either of these cars (anyone, especially in the Lubbock, TX area), I'd like to hear from you and consider any evidence you have to support either of the claims that these cars are "real."  As I said earlier, I'm always open to anybody that can bring new light to a subject and increase my knowledge.  This has been a great thread, thanks for allowing me to comment.

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.

[Chuck Hanson]

on 7/30/02 9:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> NCOA was the National Chevelle Owners Association.  It's pres. was Mark
> Meekins.  It went out of existence about a year or so ago and merged with the
> Late Great Chevys which until then was mostly older big bodied cars like
> impalas and such rather than the mid-size Chevelles.  Early members of the
> NCOA became high number members of LGC whose membership numbers go well into
> the 50,000's.  I don't know why it happened but I'd assume it was time, money
> and the coming of ACES and the strong leadership of its president Chuck
> Hansen.  For any of you guys out there that don't belong to ACES, you should.
> This is a quality organization.
> 
> PHIL G.  65 SS   MCC #36   ACES #555   TC #1766
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>> I have noticed some talk about the NCOA. Okay I'm new here and to the world
>> of chevelles. Bought a 64 el camino about 6 months ago and am slowly making
>> it a daily driver. I have a book by Mike Mueller called the Chevelle buyers
>> guide. From what I can get from some of the posts the NCOA isn't around
>> anymore. Is that right and why? Thanks for any help, Vernon
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 396guy 
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:02 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe Mark's reply is coming with the next issue of the NCOA magazine?  LOL!
>> Dale McIntosh 
>> ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold
>> 67 SS/67 Elky 
>> http://www.dalesplace.com
>> http://www.team67.com
>> http://www.midwestchevelles.com
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent Lewis
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:18 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.
>> 
>> 
>> In regards to the possibility of a '65 Z-16 convertible ever existing, I
>> remember reading a letter that was sent in to the read forum of one of the
>> many magazines that I subscribe to.  The letter asked if there was ever a
>> "...160 mph speedometer that was factory installed in a '65 Chevelle ?  The
>> letter went on to say "The reason I ask is that about six months ago while
>> looking through a junkyard, I came across a '65 Chevelle convertible and I
>> noticed it had a 160 mph speedometer."  The editor's response was that there
>> was supposedly one '65 Chevelle Z-16 convertible built, but not found.  And
>> that Mark Meekins (spelling ?) from the National Chevelle Owners Association
>> would be in contact with the author of the letter.
>> That letter was written a number of years ago.  And I have never heard
>> another word about it.  Perhaps it was a dead end ?  Just thought I would
>> share that story for those who
>> have not heard about it.
>> 
>> Kent
>> '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :)
>> ACES #5102
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Thanks for the endorsement, Phil. (The check is in the mail!)

As an aside, for all the ACES Members who've been making the daily trek to
the mailbox looking for the latest issue of Chevelle World, hold on just a
little longer... it's coming!  With all the traveling we've done since
Chevell-abration, we're just now putting the final touches on that issue and
getting it ready to go on press,  The wait'll be worth it, though.  Great
color coverage of the biggest Chevelle Show on earth, the Peach State
Southeast Regional, tech on deciphering spiral shocks... Well, I don't want
to give it all away, but it's a really good issue.

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



on 7/30/02 10:07 AM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chuck,
 
  Then there is also the little known '70 LS6 w/aluminum heads. 
 
Kent
'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :)
ACES #5102
 
  
 

Here's one that a lot of people forget about when they're talking rare Chevelles...  How about the '70 L89 (aluminum head, 375hp 396), of which there were only 18 built?  In all my years of foolin' with Chevelles, I've never seen one in person.  Seen plenty of Z-16s, More LS6 cars than were probably ever really built, and even a handful of '67 L78 cars (612 built).  Shoot, even the '69 Ss with the L89 option is pretty rare... 400 units built.  Yet another Chevelle oddity is the '66 fitted with the M22 Muncie four-speed... 12 built.  Seen a couple of those.

I'm still holding out for the '70 L89 Chevelle as one of the rarest ever built!

Chuck 


Kent,
I believe that all aluminum-headed '70 Chevelles were built with the L78 (396/375hp) as the basis for their construction.  I am not aware of any 454/LS6 variants of the L89 option.  I could be wrong, however, as I've never seen either one in person.

My '70 L78 (iron-head) convertible was a great car to have, but I'd love to find a '70 375-horse convert with recycled Budweiser cans bolted to the block!

Chuck

Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[Chuck Hanson]

on 7/30/02 9:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Never heard of a L88 Chevelle built at the factory. L89 I have heard of in 68
> and 69. When you hear numbers of the LS6 convertible - they are all guesses.
> There are no production numbers on LS6 convertibles.
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I've heard of the '68 L89 and have even seen one, too.  But it had no
documentation to verify originality.

As for LS6 convertibles, all the numbers being touted out there are just
guesses.  Chevrolet didn't keep accurate records on them by engine/body
style/color etc.  I have paperwork (build sheets or p-o-p's or window
stickers and/or vin & engine tracings) on 16 different ones currently known
to exist. 

My personal dream car is a '70 L89 convertible w/M22 Muncie.  Anyone got one
laying around?

Chuck


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...

[Chuck Hanson]

Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...



on 7/30/02 4:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, Chad is right on the LS5 being rarer than the LS6 but my books says 4,298 LS5. Also I myself have seen several CRR code LS6 automatic (454/450 auto). 
 Larry (z) 

Here's one that a lot of people forget about when they're talking rare Chevelles...  How about the '70 L89 (aluminum head, 375hp 396), of which there were only 18 built?  In all my years of foolin' with Chevelles, I've never seen one in person.  Seen plenty of Z-16s, More LS6 cars than were probably ever really built, and even a handful of '67 L78 cars (612 built).  Shoot, even the '69 Ss with the L89 option is pretty rare... 400 units built.  Yet another Chevelle oddity is the '66 fitted with the M22 Muncie four-speed... 12 built.  Seen a couple of those.

I'm still holding out for the '70 L89 Chevelle as one of the rarest ever built!

Chuck